View Full Version : Buying Interact Products is supporting Cheating
In response to the tangent that http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=32312&forum=1&61 started to go off on:
On 2002-10-14 06:00, WWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
Spy's right about Interact. If you support them in buying their keyboard, you're also funding their GameShark. If/when cheating comes around on PSO, and you complain about it, I'll be remembering this moment for a long time. Be ready to be pwned. In other words... "I told you so http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif"
I think 12X is perfectly correct. Buying any Interact product, be it GS, the 'Shark' Board, or even the Mega Memory Card, is feeding the beast bitting at our heels.
Agent_Reav
10-14-2002, 11:33 AM
How many times are you guys going to make this mistake.... Gameshark is utter crap compared to the nightmare that was Pelican's Code Breaker. The Code Breaker was the first to have does for FSOD, RSOD, CK, PK, etc etc. Interact is a very very good company with high quality products... One of them happens to be Gameshark. Let me explain this to you. If everyone were to buy a sharkboard but no one bought the Gameshark, Interact would discontinue the GameShark. The only reason it's still on the market is because ppl buy it.... They wouldn't defer money from something else they sell (Sharkboard) to a dying product (Gameshark).
OMFG 12X!!!!!!!!!!!????????? FUX0R j00!!11111
On 2002-10-14 09:33, Agent_Reav wrote:
How many times are you guys going to make this mistake....
Mistake? What mistake?
Gameshark is utter crap compared to the nightmare that was Pelican's Code Breaker. The Code Breaker was the first to have does for FSOD, RSOD, CK, PK, etc etc.
Proof?
If everyone were to buy a sharkboard but no one bought the Gameshark, Interact would discontinue the GameShark. The only reason it's still on the market is because ppl buy it.... They wouldn't defer money from something else they sell (Sharkboard) to a dying product (Gameshark).
That couldn't be more wrong.
GameShark isn't a dying product. It's a well known cheat device for games consoles. If you really think it's a dying product, I'd like to know how or why you think this.
RuneLateralus
10-14-2002, 01:26 PM
Hey, lets try to keep some of the spamming down here.
As for the whole buying Interact products, you buy a certain type of product, you support the product. If Interact only sells an amount of Gamesharks that cause them to lose money, they will stop making them.
And besides, it is not just Gameshark to blame for all cheating. There are other cheat devices out there and they will be made as well.
On 2002-10-14 11:26, RuneLateralus wrote:
Hey, lets try to keep some of the spamming down here.
Oh, come now. Spam? This topic?
*wanders off mumbling*
Etrigan
10-14-2002, 03:36 PM
Likewise, if people stop supporting Interact's other products, while 'cheaters' keep buying Gamesharks, Interact will be forced to do nothing but keep selling Gamesharks in order to stay in business.
Your crusade against Interact is absurd.
Agent_Reav
10-14-2002, 04:26 PM
Mistake? What mistake?
The mistake of going against Interact... Pelican's Code Breaker is much more complex.
Proof?
CMGSCCC... The biggest public code group and one that was supported by Barubary officially uses and promotes the Code Breaker. I won't give a link since I don't want more ppl to have access to this site... But i'm sure u can guess what it is.
That couldn't be more wrong.
Perhaps you have difficuluty in "reading to understand". If no one buys other Interact products then their best selling one (The Gameshark) will be their only product... and hence receive more attention and resources. If everyone were to buy the Sharkboard but not the Gameshark... Interact would discontinue the Gameshark. Understand now?
GameShark isn't a dying product. It's a well known cheat device for games consoles. If you really think it's a dying product, I'd like to know how or why you think this.
I didn't say it was dying... I said hypothetically (IF IT WERE DYING), Interact would not defer money from more sucessful products to it.
On 2002-10-14 14:26, Agent_Reav wrote:
The mistake of going against Interact... Pelican's Code Breaker is much more complex.
More complex, but GameShark still helped screw up PSO, right? In version 1, many, many more people had GameShark than Codebreak, Xploder, or X-Terminator. Doesn't change the situation either. Pelican and Interact are problems for the PSO players.
CMGSCCC... The biggest public code group and one that was supported by Barubary officially uses and promotes the Code Breaker. I won't give a link since I don't want more ppl to have access to this site... But i'm sure u can guess what it is.
I thought that you'd say something about CMGSCCC. It doesn't matter about them, not one bit. You do realise that CMGSCCC are the only recognised American site to contain codes. Heck, their owner hates PSO. It's unlikely that they'll even bother to make codes again for PSO. CMGSCCC doesn't even endorse online cheating, nor do they provide FSOD, RSOD, PK, CK like you said.
You should browse the net for some Japanese PSO code sites. You'll see that there are many.
Perhaps you have difficuluty in "reading to understand". If no one buys other Interact products then their best selling one (The Gameshark) will be their only product... and hence receive more attention and resources. If everyone were to buy the Sharkboard but not the Gameshark... Interact would discontinue the Gameshark. Understand now?
You fail to understand that PSO isn't the only game people buy the GameShark for. There are a lot more games that people will use for the GameShark. So the PSO community not buying GameShark won't mean that much to them.
I didn't say it was dying... I said hypothetically (IF IT WERE DYING), Interact would not defer money from more sucessful products to it.
I misread that, my bad. The thing is, the GameShark is a very popular cheat device. I believe it's more popular than the Codebreaker. It won't die out, not for a long time.
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On 2002-10-14 13:36, Etrigan wrote:
Your crusade against Interact is absurd.
Life is absurd. Get over it.
Mystil
10-15-2002, 07:04 PM
Hmmm, well, CMGSCCC is kinda more popular than Interact, and everyone knows about the old Code Boy vs. Code Master thing years ago hehe. But Interact products dying? No chance..for one it's cheaper then Code Breaker(where I live at least), and alittle less complicating. And well..people been up with Interact for awhile. As long as CMGSCCC is around, Interact will never die. They both indeed to did contribute to PSO mess-ness.
Barubary6
10-15-2002, 10:41 PM
I think I should add my own comment about this.
Besides the fact that CMX (owner of CMGSCCC) has been on bad terms with Interact for years now, there is a simple reason why Code Breaker was used over Game Shark. PSO's cheat security, especially in Version 2, was too strong for Game Shark. Game Shark doesn't have special code types that can be used to attack the security system of PSO and run.
In Version 1, PSO deleted Game Shark from memory effectively, but it Game Shark was around long enough to activate codes once before disappearing. This was noticed in how some codes worked with Game Shark and some codes didn't.
In Version 2, things were very different. PSO loaded itself in 2 steps for added security. A separate EXE file loads before the real EXE is decrypted. Game Shark could only modify the loader program, not the extra EXE file. Then there's another reason why Game Shark won't work that would require way too much detail to explain.
If it were simply GSCCC disliking Game Shark that caused all the codes to be for Code Breaker, why do all the Japanese-made codes for PSO v2 only work on Code Breaker as well?
-- Barubary
War_Child
10-16-2002, 06:17 PM
It costs money to make money.
If the Gameshark costs x dollars, and the money made from selling it, y dollars, is less than x, then obviously it will be discontinued because they don't make a profit off it.
Buying another interact product will not make a difference in whether or not gamesharks wil lbe made. The only thing that will is if whether or not people buy gamesharks.
Obviously they are, so it isn't going away.
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