Iam REALLY looking foward to the cheat free enviornment

[HC82]

As of right now one of the reasons why iam really looking foward to GC PSO is because there almost no cheating on it.

Now that rares are easier to find, it makes rare hunting more fun and more rewarding. As apposed to going in for 300 hours and finding a rare that will only see the shadows of your bank, characters and items are far more balanced. In fact things are balanced pretty well that it makes finding rares all the more rewarding since you'd actually use the item.

As a result iam actually hyped up about the game.

Anyone else looking foward to the cheat free enviornment in particular.

[SSJChenZhen]

I cant wait! Cheat free..ahhh...i cant wait. I'll be playing at my own pace and enjoying it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif.

[ginko990]

Damm right I am, And I presume everyone on these boards are as well. There are soooo many improvments in the game from its prequal that really make a big difference. I am so godamn hyped about this game its crazy.

[Rhete]

So dupes aren't cheats anymore?

[SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko]

I'm going to love the cheat free multiplayer offline environment ;3 Oh wait, all my friends are dead, ahahahaha

[HC82]

I consider dupes as cheats.

US version is supposedly going to fix that dupe problem. Also I have no plan to go around and beg jpn players for duped stuff.

Since theres no item mod code, some jpn dupers really aren't going to ruin my gameplay.

[Rhete]

On 2002-10-21 19:15, HC82 wrote:
I consider dupes as cheats.

US version is supposedly going to fix that dupe problem. Also I have no plan to go around and beg jpn players for duped stuff.

Since theres no item mod code, some jpn dupers really aren't going to ruin my gameplay.


Well, what about US importers? Unless the servers are seperated, the game will never be 100% cheat free

[Kalbelgarion]

I certainly am...imagine...waltzing into open games and meeting strangers, without fear of your character disappearing forever...it'll be like a dream come true...

[Cheech]

Keep looking.



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[HC82]

Iam purely refering(for me atleast) on the gameplay end of balance, in relation to me actually looking foward to a legit experience. In the pervious PSOs a legit experience IMO was stiffled due to the gameplay mechanics.

I don't need 100% to look foward to PSO, iam not what one would call an anal legit. My main gripe with the orginal PSOs where the imbalance of rares, techs, classes, weapons, armors. Legit rares were worthless, a 45% pick overpowered them(unless you modded). Rares armors were worthless without slots, although you never found them so what did it matter.

Gameplaywise being legit was not as rewarding as it should be. Add to the heavy mod enviornment, it was difficult to even join an open game.

Enter GC PSO, no mods(battlemode stays intact). Lamers can't bust out super hacked spreads(spread sucks in GC pso from what I heard). Any other idiotic hack that let you nol etc isn't in the game. No level up cheats which devalue characters.


In GS PSO it's a rewarding experience now to find your own rares and have them be valuable gameplaywise. Not too mention actually being able to find them.

100% cheat free? Nope, but will I still be able to experience a game where being legit actually pays off, where going rare hunting means you'll actually find something, join open games and not worry?...yep.

A cheat free experience for myself and a majority of us US gamers. Dupes or no dupes it won't ruin my fun.

[Cheech]

Ah yes, I understand you now. Before, it sounded like you were saying "omfg cheat free pso game whoo!11!1"

I've been doing all the research I can about the game, and from what I've found out, the game is almost completely balanced from v2. Which drasticly increases the replay and overall fun of the game. Probably, cheats are going to majorly exploited within the second month of Domestic PSO, but hell, those first two months starting a (sorta) fresh new experience will be hella worth it, don't you think?

[Danger_Girl]

Thats just sick. I've seen Spy in his tighty whities. Its almost impossible to separate his pastey white skin from the fruit of the loom.

As for cheat free enviroment, it will be nice while it lasts.


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[Spy]

On 2002-10-21 22:56, Danger_Girl wrote:
Thats just sick. I've seen Spy in his tighty whities. Its almost impossible to separate his pastey white skin from the fruit of the loom.


Erm... I don't wear undies. Period.


As for cheating, it will be nice while it lasts.



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I think yousa needs a morsa editing.



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[Barubary6]

It's *mostly* cheat-free... I can already item mod, steal guild cards, and copy uncopiable symchats. I wouldn't worry about what I'm doing - it's really only me (and Clara of course) that can be cheating right now.

-- Barubary

[rena-ko]

@_@;

whatever... unless you two do that for your own fun (and to brag about it) and not to piss off others and unless you keep your knowlegde/codes to yourself its fine with me (i guess).



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[Sedyne]

On 2002-10-21 19:01, SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko wrote:
I'm going to love the cheat free multiplayer offline environment ;3 Oh wait, all my friends are dead, ahahahaha


O_o and that's funny snapple you toaster sexing wierdo >_>

lol i love you

anyway well i'm looking foward to LESS BITCHING AND LESS COMPLAINING ON THE WHOLE GAME BECAUSE IMO THAT WAS SO F****** ANNOYING. Thanks to the new improvements there should be alot less of that =D

[_xX_Frosty_Xx_]

On 2002-10-22 03:58, SedyneX930 wrote:

On 2002-10-21 19:01, SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko wrote:
I'm going to love the cheat free multiplayer offline environment ;3 Oh wait, all my friends are dead, ahahahaha


O_o and that's funny snapple you toaster sexing wierdo >_>

lol i love you

anyway well i'm looking foward to LESS BITCHING AND LESS COMPLAINING ON THE WHOLE GAME BECAUSE IMO THAT WAS SO F****** ANNOYING. Thanks to the new improvements there should be alot less of that =D



YES! No more whiny legits......before you get off topic I didn't say all legits were whiny did I? Ok then....but I cannot WAIT! It's gonna be so cool to actually be able to get past lv 100 without killing myself, finally find legit rare weps, and all those rare mags.......MAN I can't wait. It's gonna be hella good.......

[Spektrum]

Someone made a dupe code for the new pso then someone could aswell make a "NOL" code fsod, rsod code and etc etc etc and in awhile everything that was going on in DC version will be going on in the new version of pso, am I right?

[RellikTakahashi]

I hate to be the bearer (spelling error I can tell) of bad news but you all know hackers will get on gc sooner or later. They always have. I hate them so much. I wish they would all just disappear!

[Spektrum]

On 2002-10-22 00:44, Barubary6 wrote:
It's *mostly* cheat-free...


Ok but lets say after awhile when theres more cheating going on will Sonic team do anything about it.

[BlackRose]

I don't think sonic team won't be fixing it this time either. They'll probably do a few things but they'll be much to busy with new games to fix old ones.

As to cheat-free environs, I didn't mind the cheaters as much as I minded the legit martyrs who just had their crap stolen and now whine about it incessantly. That's the only reason I played private games in DC PSO.

[ReikenFeralsbane]

what if we all just unanimously ignore Barubary? Just pretend he doesn't post here, maybe he'll get the hint? :/

[TheWhiteShadow]

Like we take him seriously anyway...

[Vejita]

Personally, I dont mind cheaters, as far as weapons/items go. Duping and what not doesnt really affect your own personal game. PSO is a environment thats set up for providing fun. Yes, it can lead to ridiculous and endless frustration, but still, the point of the game is for self-enjoyment. If people want to cheat and take advantage of the games many open weaknesses, so be it. As long as its not directly affecting my "fun-having" experience, then I dont give a flaming damn. Let people frollock in their PSO experience however they want. If they go through the trouble of figuring out how to cheat and opening holes in the system only to provide themselves with a little more self-fulfillment, more power to ya. Just dont screw with the rest of us.

[Ness]

On 2002-10-22 00:44, Barubary6 wrote:
It's *mostly* cheat-free... I can already item mod, steal guild cards, and copy uncopiable symchats. I wouldn't worry about what I'm doing - it's really only me (and Clara of course) that can be cheating right now.

-- Barubary



You knnow I have to ask, why?
What's the benefit of cheating. Why do you have to ruin everybody's fun?

Cheating doesn't make you look any better.

[Phobos-X]

cheat free? well i dunno, the GameShark is due out sometime this week unless it got pushed back again, of course sega, stopped GS cheating on the DC, but cheating is cheating

[BlackRose]

On 2002-10-23 04:06, Ness wrote:

You knnow I have to ask, why?
What's the benefit of cheating. Why do you have to ruin everybody's fun?

Cheating doesn't make you look any better.



I can't speak for everyone, but Barubary (and any other cheater) didn't ruin MY fun at all. Personally, I don't mind what he does. He enjoys it, and isn't the entire point of video games to enjoy them? As I see it, the cheaters will always be there, they're as much a part of the game as legitimate players. It's much easier to accept them and work around them than drive against the grain. And I've been PK'd, FSOD'd, duped, robbed, and all sorts of other things, but I just see it as another challenge of the game to enjoy solving.

I suppose my point is not to speak for everyone, but take it how you will.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2002-10-23 07:21, BlackRose wrote:

He enjoys it, and isn't the entire point of video games to enjoy them?


The way he talks about it is more in a 'bragging' tone rather than "I enjoy doing these things on PSO."

He probably doesn't enjoy playing the game at all. He rather finds bugs and exploits them to the fullest. This is how he spends some of his free time. Who can say besides himself that "he enjoys it"? He has said in other posts how he played PSO.

Such things as if someone bothered him, he stole their Guild Card and ran around disconnecting them whenever he could.
That is his way of enjoying the game.
That can't be justified.
PSO was made for people to play PSO; not connect to PSO, and ruin others' experiences.

[Alena Zouryx]

I just don't understand what people actually get out of cheating. It totally ruins the whole PSO experience, even if you are the actual cheater, you know? I should know, since I once used the GS on the DC version 1. After boosting to level 100 and modding just about everything, I broke down. I was so bored I had to delete my character.
My point is, cheating makes the game lose its fun, even if you are the actual cheater. Maxing out everything totally loses the game's charm of climbing to the top of the level ladder, searching out for rares, and being proud of your self-raised mag. Why do people cheat if it will only make the game dull?

I am SO looking forward to the cheat-free environment - simply because it will limit the number of bored, agitated players running around in lobbies picking on all of the true PSO vets who actually work their way to their goal. Yes, I know that eventually hackers WILL get into are currently "divine" PSO GC, but if we just limit the number of items we trade and just plain ignore the cheaters, our experience will be SO much better. No one likes to waste a money on a dull game. So why make a great game melancholy by cheating? I just don't get it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Bluedeath]

All i have to say is a cheat free invironment is gonna be soooooo awesome!!!

[Foggy_Pete]

On 2002-10-22 05:53, Spektrum wrote:
Someone made a dupe code for the new pso then someone could aswell make a "NOL" code fsod, rsod code and etc etc etc and in awhile everything that was going on in DC version will be going on in the new version of pso, am I right?


as far as i know it wasnt a "code" it was a flaw in the actual programming of the game. probly because there can be up to 4 characters per memory card someone found a way to coppy the character data and thus, the items the character had. segas "hack proof" system has yet to be broken even if the game itself had a flaw or two

[GaMMa]

I dunno, I think GameCube won't have a cheat free enviornment. It's pretty similar to the Dreamcast, and all someone has to do is make a GameShark for it. The real cheatfree enviornment will be Xbox Live with account banning, patches and the lack of a GameShark ever going to be released.

[Kenks23]

Well, in my opinion, I think there will be less cheating, and I'm looking forward to that.

Note: I think what Barubary does is cool actually. I don't look at it as the game being ruined. In fact, I wish I could do that. I probably could if I wasn't such a lazy programmer. Oh well http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif.

[BaronLaw]

I'm rather jaded, given the experience of PSO and PSO V2 on the Dreamcast. Thus far, my experience on PSO Episode 1&2 has been mostly cheat-free. On the other hand, it's difficult to tell what has been duped this early in the game's lifespan.

I can attest to seeing a level 40ish RAmar with a Heaven's Punisher in an open game. He claimed to have found it on ultimate mode in a quest, presumably with another character. Then again, this is the import version and the North American release is allegedly free of the dupe-glitch that has been exploited on the Japanese edition.

BaronLaw

[Kent]

On 2002-10-27 09:47, GaMMa wrote:
I dunno, I think GameCube won't have a cheat free enviornment. It's pretty similar to the Dreamcast, and all someone has to do is make a GameShark for it. The real cheatfree enviornment will be Xbox Live with account banning, patches and the lack of a GameShark ever going to be released.



Just another reason I chose to wait for the Xbox version.

We all know that, sooner or later, after cheat devices are released, it's going to be just like the Dreamcast versions, Sonic Team's going to try, try, try to keep the cheaters at bay, and they will probably fail (although it'd be wonderful if they succeeded at it).

With Xbox Live, you can be sure that Microsoft employees will be monitoring the servers for any wrongful activities, and the users can help with this also. When playing games on Xbox Live, there's always a menu option that lets you send player feedback to the servers, whether it be good or bad. Soo if you ever come across a cheater online on the Xbox version of PSO, you just report them and be on your way. You can even view the players that have gotten the most positive or negative feedback on the internet.

Not only that, if somebody does make some sort of cheat device that interferes with online play of any game for Xbox, you know Microsoft is going to do something about it (probably something involving lawyers).

[Wewt]

Cheat-free or not cheat-free. I couldn't care less. Most people are buying PSO again to play the game they loved, and to play with friends they met on the previous versions again.

[Vejita]

Thank you WWWWWWWWWWWW. Finally, a logical responce.