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Saner
Jul 3, 2006, 02:32 PM
Ya I'm thinking.

um um

I think it would be best if rares don't overdo it with their power advantages.

like you know how easy and cheap and boring Spread Needles are and stuff like that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

rare weapons should overall be a tad stronger than common weapons but not too much, ya know? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Rares are best as good weapon that look unique and stuff like that. cause the appearance is really what makes it more of a rare than what it can do, or something like that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

but ya overall statistics show people prefer to use what's best than what looks better. This is similiar to classes how most people want the best advantages overall, while others play with any combination they want.

but ya, rare will be rares.

but ya know, difficulty levels have limits, and so should rares to keep some challenges always a challenge. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Neural_Nebula
Jul 3, 2006, 02:36 PM
It's aesthetics for me all the way, if it happens to have a buttload of power associated with it, then all the better. I never used the Spread Needle all that much, actually not at all since y'see... I have the eye of a magpie; if it's purty I snag it - simple as that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif I also have a hoarder mentality so I ended up with quite the plunder pile in previous games - even if the gear was obsolete. xD

Saner
Jul 3, 2006, 02:39 PM
wow! so you gobble up stuff like squirrels? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



I had a feeling your cheeks were puffier than before. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

c'mon now, cough up what you swindled. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Ether
Jul 3, 2006, 02:43 PM
As long as they dont make rares that are completely inferior to their normal weapon versions (inferno bazooka, power maser) then I'd go with looks over stats

Lyrise
Jul 3, 2006, 02:47 PM
For me, it's gotta look good, great Photon Capacity and is a type that I'm compatible with. A weapon can be as strong as it wants but if the PAs that correspond to said type is unwieldy or low power, I won't use it; also won't use it if the PP capacity is extremely poor. (poor capacity=poor regeneration as well)

I guess to sum it up, I'm more of a technical player. As long as the weapon isn't considered too weak, I'll usually look at other stats than just power. (I'm the type of person who would give up a Vivienne on PSOBB for a PoL because of range and speed)

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Authenticate
Jul 3, 2006, 02:54 PM
In my oppinion, rares should just look more unique than normal weapons. Like have slick looking rifle that shoots slender icicle-like bullets that leave a frosty trail behind them, but stat wise it's just a slightly upgraded ice element rifle. I'd rather that the basic weapons weren't severly outclassed, though.

Shiro_Ryuu
Jul 3, 2006, 03:15 PM
I do like to have some strong weapons but for the most part, I prefer to have weapons that look real cool.

TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 3, 2006, 03:25 PM
On 2006-07-03 12:32, Saner wrote:

but ya overall statistics show people prefer to use what's best than what looks better.



Oh, and what statistics are these http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif In the beginning I generally use what's best, so that I can progress faster. But once I get comfortable/ bored than I use whatever looks cooler. Unless it's power is abysmal -_-.

Oh, but if a poor monster is unfortunate enough to pi$$ me off, I will switch to my uber-weapon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif. Beware!

-Klaus-
Jul 3, 2006, 04:25 PM
I think the complete opposite.


The power is what makes it RARE and SOUGHT AFTER. If it just looks flashy and does crap damage, what's the big deal? Sure, having a cool-looking weapon is nice, but to me it means nothing if it's not worth all the trouble I went through to get it.

tank1
Jul 3, 2006, 05:30 PM
If the weapon is truly rare then it wont matter if its overpowered cuz only a few people are going to have them and whats the point of a rare that has crap stats?.

Sevenfold
Jul 3, 2006, 05:40 PM
Appearance is really only half the battle though. You cant really decide that since its a "rare" to begin with.

Cai
Jul 3, 2006, 05:42 PM
See the way I think... if the weapon is going to be good, it SHOULD look cool.. I don't think the two should exist without each other.. x_x

Eternal255
Jul 3, 2006, 07:48 PM
read the sig

Sevenfold
Jul 3, 2006, 07:58 PM
Dbl lavis cannon > lavis cannon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 3, 2006, 08:01 PM
Nobody likes Double Cannon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Kano-Okami
Jul 3, 2006, 09:19 PM
I'm going for all aesthetics. I want to look as good as possible. Eventually, I'll care a tad more about power but I just want to look good for the mostpart.
As for rares, I'll only try to collect them if they either look good with my avatar or has a great special effect that goes with my persona.



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Sevenfold
Jul 3, 2006, 09:55 PM
On 2006-07-03 18:01, TheyCallMeJoe wrote:
Nobody likes Double Cannon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


BAH! When did this happen?

TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 3, 2006, 09:58 PM
Oh good! That's relieving. Everybody was talking about Lavis Cannon and I thought they forgot about it's twin. Literally.

Alisha
Jul 3, 2006, 10:00 PM
as long as we dont end up with useless rares like the berla cannon....

SirenV
Jul 3, 2006, 10:55 PM
Hm, I have to say I'd go with fashion over function as well. If it has both, hooray.

Edit: What deplorable warriors are we. XD

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Eternal255
Jul 3, 2006, 11:49 PM
great thing about the lavis cannon, is that it is (imo) the best looking weapon in the game (well pso v1 to ep 1&2... &4 anyway, cant say anything bout psu yet), and it is extremely powerful. Win-win for me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

If it aint in PSU someone will die

Cai
Jul 3, 2006, 11:58 PM
On 2006-07-03 18:01, TheyCallMeJoe wrote:
Nobody likes Double Cannon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


True, Lavis Blade much preferred.

NightHour13
Jul 4, 2006, 12:12 AM
I agree with the Lavis idea. That thing is damn sexy, and it's powerfull as hell. I believe it must be both. Who wants a weapon that can destroy all of Parum, but looks like a butt-cheek?

...i do...

Saner
Jul 4, 2006, 02:39 AM
On 2006-07-03 19:58, TheyCallMeJoe wrote:
Oh good! That's relieving. Everybody was talking about Lavis Cannon and I thought they forgot about it's twin. Literally.



what does the Lavis Cannon look like?

sami_pso
Jul 4, 2006, 06:54 AM
I think power. spread needle was crap (my legit kings one was ok though). I'd like to see a bigger difference between common weapons and rare weapons. Sometimes common weapons were stronger ftw. Imo rare should be over powered.

Alisha
Jul 4, 2006, 06:58 AM
On 2006-07-04 00:39, Saner wrote:


On 2006-07-03 19:58, TheyCallMeJoe wrote:
Oh good! That's relieving. Everybody was talking about Lavis Cannon and I thought they forgot about it's twin. Literally.



what does the Lavis Cannon look like?



what the f......

and sami pso if you think spread needle sucked you must of never saw its original incarnation on dc pso

even on ep2 it was excellent for paralyzing groups and haad speed superior to shots.

Neural_Nebula
Jul 4, 2006, 08:36 AM
OMG it’s so Double Cannon > Lavis Cannon. I mean Double Cannon is double the Lavis Cannon, ‘nuff said.

As for how it looks like, heh Saner… you really ought to take a peek at the weapons database y’know? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Anyhoo, the whole Lavis series are weapons fitted with translucent rotating sections of a purplish hue – Lavis Cannon (http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=137&sortby=name) is all one piece though. They emit a barrage of ‘sonic boom’ type of waves as a special attack – Double Cannon has 4-ways, whoo!

And as for my ‘grabbiness’, naw… I’m not that bad really, if I have a duplicate of something I toss it out but I’ll more than likely end up with the complete array of weapons you can get in-game regardless of whether I can use them or not. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif And as for being a squirrel? Nah, my gob’s not that big as to accommodate my entire collection of goodies – not to mention I’d have muffled speech - so I’m more like a rat, a pack-rat. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

AlaskaMan
Jul 4, 2006, 09:58 AM
Man that weapon looks so cool. I still dont have broadband or anything. Is that weapon accessiable on offline mode or online?

Neural_Nebula
Jul 4, 2006, 10:19 AM
On 2006-07-04 07:58, AlaskaMan wrote:
Man that weapon looks so cool. I still dont have broadband or anything. Is that weapon accessiable on offline mode or online?



The Lavis Cannon? Oh yeah it's available offline, take a look at the bottom of that page I linked to see which of the beasties of Ragol it drops off. Also if you combine it with an item called Syncesta you can get the Lavis Blade and later the Double Cannon. Linkage. (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=302)

AlaskaMan
Jul 4, 2006, 10:24 AM
ah aight cool thnx^^. I'm lvl 98 in Ultimate mode and i dont know anything still. Guess im too nubish lol. (I still aint in epi 2 because i want to beat epi 1 ultimate b4 going to epi 2) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

jungleking45
Jul 4, 2006, 05:14 PM
I want a dual wielding weapon, or a cute toy/cameo weapon. Power doesn't matter when your level 355. And if I don't get em, Yuji Naka dies.

AlaskaMan
Jul 4, 2006, 06:26 PM
I want a weapon that looks cool. Like it looks like a big gun or sword that looks like it can destroy the whole world. And i want a cane weapon that looks like a candy can YUM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif!

Sevenfold
Jul 4, 2006, 08:06 PM
On 2006-07-04 16:26, AlaskaMan wrote:
I want a weapon that looks cool. Like it looks like a big gun or sword that looks like it can destroy the whole world. And i want a cane weapon that looks like a candy can YUM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif!


LoL I think everyone does really. Big and sleek! MmmmMmm..

Zinsian
Jul 5, 2006, 01:49 PM
lol. there should be ONE Rare weapon that dominates all. meaning there will only be one of them which will be found by a certain task of missions and heavy researching with the CLUES left by the Sega Team. this will surely make EVERYONE look for it and hunt for this rare weapon. HUNTING!! That would be FUN!!!!! First one to find it, will be the only one to find it.

Sevenfold
Jul 5, 2006, 04:39 PM
On 2006-07-05 11:49, Zinsian wrote:
lol. there should be ONE Rare weapon that dominates all. meaning there will only be one of them which will be found by a certain task of missions and heavy researching with the CLUES left by the Sega Team. this will surely make EVERYONE look for it and hunt for this rare weapon. HUNTING!! That would be FUN!!!!! First one to find it, will be the only one to find it.



I would see that working better as a team oriented task. Getting six good friends and working your tooshies off for a chance at a one time rare. Just my opinion though. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

MattMattic
Sep 29, 2006, 03:53 PM
I think Looks are a big part of it. But, you need power,just not so much that you kill all enemies in one shot.Leaving no exp. for other players.

MattMattic
Sep 29, 2006, 03:54 PM
I think Looks are a big part of it. But, you need power,just not so much that you kill all enemies in one shot.Leaving no exp. for other players.

Valkayree
Sep 29, 2006, 03:58 PM
On 2006-07-03 12:32, Saner wrote:
Ya I'm thinking.

um um

I think it would be best if rares don't overdo it with their power advantages.

like you know how easy and cheap and boring Spread Needles are and stuff like that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

rare weapons should overall be a tad stronger than common weapons but not too much, ya know? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Rares are best as good weapon that look unique and stuff like that. cause the appearance is really what makes it more of a rare than what it can do, or something like that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

but ya overall statistics show people prefer to use what's best than what looks better. This is similiar to classes how most people want the best advantages overall, while others play with any combination they want.

but ya, rare will be rares.

but ya know, difficulty levels have limits, and so should rares to keep some challenges always a challenge. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


Lol, a challenge is what challenge mode is for... Hope they bring it back...

Kazzi
Sep 29, 2006, 04:58 PM
*Cough* as long as they LOOK good power isnt much of a concern to me xD Handgun is a prime example. But thats just me personally. It never hurts to have a comedy weapon and a powerfull one.

RuinedReBirth
Sep 29, 2006, 05:32 PM
EDIT: Completely wrong thread!

I'm more of a man that likes to look good...but if I'm playing in a place that absolutely requires power, then I'll use something that will need the ATP. Other than that, appearance...if it doesn't suck so much!!!

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darthplagis
Sep 29, 2006, 08:29 PM
as for the lavis debate the blades were the best fast, quick recovery after combo and the just ruled!

back on topic i go with looks, i just LOVE the come on gun!! and its twin variant. i think wepons like the vahra claw which you can get and use pretty early (if you get the kubara wood from relics) are the way forward, they look like NO OTHER claws in the game so far, ok they havent got super stats but hey they are vahra's arms. wepons like the svaltus sword are hard to get but simple to make (if you have all the bits its easy, but have you got the bits???) and that in itself is a draw to get the weponas it takes some serious hunting to get the 3 kubara wood and the board, hopefully the sword WILL own but i aint got one yet so i cant say.

Chaobo99
Sep 29, 2006, 10:13 PM
im for cool-looking and CHAO looking!! I'm gonna miss the chao mag and the chao on stick wep..

Haruka-sama
Sep 29, 2006, 11:11 PM
There was a DOUBLE Lavis?? Was that in DC PSO or am I just really uninformed?

Personally, I never spend my time item/rare hunting, I just like killing monsters and hey, maybe I'll accidentally find something good while I'm at it - otherwise I just get frustrated at my lack of finding anything and forget to enjoy the game =)
The only time in my life I found a really rare item was in RO when I strolled into a particular dungeon on a whim and got Emperium off of the first undead orc I killed lol, that was an extremely rare bout of luck for me, but if I did get a rare weapon, I would go for looks! =D

darthplagis
Sep 29, 2006, 11:50 PM
the lack of rares (well good rares anyway, how many DB's,Varistas,Flowens did you get? now how many TJS's? ) is what lead to PSO being hacked so much. as for the lavis family you had lavis canon (saber) add a synescea(sp) lavis blade (daggers) add another synescea double cannon (twin saber, stagg cutlery style) all 3 had the force wave special which would kill you hehehe.

as i said earlier in the thread unique weps (kubara) are pretty easy to get hold of IF the right items are dropped (i got 8 white gloves(makes come on guns) in 6 runs of lvl 15 train in parum, but ive only got 1 kubara wood(relics box) so far with that char). and the kubara bow (bat wing one) is dropped quite easily in neudiaz, the come on guns can be gotten form boxes in the temple easily, however the svaltus board still eludes me as does neta notebooks (i think they will synth death dancers and the single saber version)

sonic_ray
Sep 30, 2006, 12:19 AM
Option four: <throws down goblet> ...A miserable little pile of secrets!