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Carlo210
Jul 10, 2006, 10:34 PM
Yes, it's a poll. Do you wanna know why? Because polls are fun (and distract us from ps3 topics).

Being most excited about this class, you think your first/main character will be one of them. This class is:

Sevenfold
Jul 10, 2006, 10:35 PM
Heh, its also a poll because we have nothing better to do until PSU comes out http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

But for me, Hunter!!! Must slash and KILLLL!!

TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 10, 2006, 10:36 PM
Well I guess I won't say anything about how common these polls are or else you'll get angry with me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Regardless, I will say that I will either be a Force or a Hunter. Or actually maybe a Ranger....http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif Ummm basically Ranger cuz of casts, and depends on whether the game is packed with Forces or not. I'd rather be of the minority so that I could retain some individuality.

Carlo210
Jul 10, 2006, 10:38 PM
The minority will probably be either force or ranger. I have a feeling it'll be force. Then again, Rangers will probably have a repetitive play style as well if you aren't crazy about them to begin with.

Edit: Joe - Vote, darnit! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



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Ibuka
Jul 10, 2006, 10:45 PM
I vote Rangers. Hunters are cool with there hackin and slashing.
But hey! I just love guns XD



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Pyronin
Jul 10, 2006, 10:45 PM
I'm kinda anxious about all three, I plan on being a human just to be able to play as all three.

FlakariLeader
Jul 10, 2006, 10:54 PM
I can't wait to try Hunter, finally a chance to strafe and not slow down when you're near an enemy like in PSO. It'll be neat to try out.

Sevenfold
Jul 10, 2006, 10:59 PM
On 2006-07-10 20:54, FlakariLeader wrote:
I can't wait to try Hunter, finally a chance to strafe and not slow down when you're near an enemy like in PSO. It'll be neat to try out.



Thats a good point. I cant express to you the amount of anger I supressed from slowing down every time I was about to fight, or run away from an enemy. Or even worse, nearing a stupid trap.

Foxix
Jul 10, 2006, 11:00 PM
I think I might go Ranger this time seeing as how it's the only class I never payed much attention to in PSO.

Carlo210
Jul 10, 2006, 11:03 PM
Hunter here. At least as of yet...

Saner
Jul 10, 2006, 11:23 PM
I kinda don't regret being a full-time Ranger in PSO, since it gave me a good idea what it's all about.

now I can fully enjoy Hunter, knowing how boring Ranger really is. (shoot, run away, shoot). http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

but ya all 3 classes are cool and great parties will have a combination of all 3. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



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Foxix
Jul 10, 2006, 11:24 PM
once again thats the reason I avoided range http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_chicken.gif but with the strafing and the dual equip options it seems like it may actually be more fun this time around

Sevenfold
Jul 10, 2006, 11:49 PM
I can see trouble though, it usually happens in any online game where healing is needed. Especially at the higer levels. Few are going to play a force, and even fewer will play them full time to get them to the higher levels. Not that Im complaining per say, because I just dont like to play magic oriented toons. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

FlakariLeader
Jul 11, 2006, 12:01 AM
On 2006-07-10 21:49, Sevenfold wrote:
I can see trouble though, it usually happens in any online game where healing is needed. Especially at the higer levels. Few are going to play a force, and even fewer will play them full time to get them to the higher levels. Not that Im complaining per say, because I just dont like to play magic oriented toons. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

If you're Hunter or Ranger, just carry 20 Trimates or it's equivalent with you each time you go into a mission and when you hit a checkpoint in the higher levels.

Using Maseta won't kill you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Pyronin
Jul 11, 2006, 12:03 AM
You can carry more than 10 of each item now?! Awsome!

Kamiense
Jul 11, 2006, 12:10 AM
I want to start up a hunter again, just because I had a lot of fun playing as one on GC PSO. As Flakari said, strafing will be a great tool for people now.

Sevenfold
Jul 11, 2006, 12:24 AM
On 2006-07-10 22:01, FlakariLeader wrote:


On 2006-07-10 21:49, Sevenfold wrote:
I can see trouble though, it usually happens in any online game where healing is needed. Especially at the higer levels. Few are going to play a force, and even fewer will play them full time to get them to the higher levels. Not that Im complaining per say, because I just dont like to play magic oriented toons. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

If you're Hunter or Ranger, just carry 20 Trimates or it's equivalent with you each time you go into a mission and when you hit a checkpoint in the higher levels.

Using Maseta won't kill you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



Maseta is supposed to be much harder to gather this time around. And yeah, I could carry mates all day, or just have a cool Force friend who like to heal his fellow team, since you know....he "can".

EnixBelmont
Jul 11, 2006, 12:26 AM
Hunter or a force....I am still mostly undecided, but probably hunter, if not because my only other friend being a hunter sucks ass, and a good hunter would help balance it.

FlakariLeader
Jul 11, 2006, 12:27 AM
On 2006-07-10 22:24, Sevenfold wrote:


On 2006-07-10 22:01, FlakariLeader wrote:


On 2006-07-10 21:49, Sevenfold wrote:
I can see trouble though, it usually happens in any online game where healing is needed. Especially at the higer levels. Few are going to play a force, and even fewer will play them full time to get them to the higher levels. Not that Im complaining per say, because I just dont like to play magic oriented toons. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

If you're Hunter or Ranger, just carry 20 Trimates or it's equivalent with you each time you go into a mission and when you hit a checkpoint in the higher levels.

Using Maseta won't kill you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



Maseta is supposed to be much harder to gather this time around. And yeah, I could carry mates all day, or just have a cool Force friend who like to heal his fellow team, since you know....he "can".

But if you don't have a cool Force friend to party with at the time, you could use the Trimates.

Anyway, when you're high leveled, even if Maseta is harder to find then on PSO, you should at least get more than enough to supply yourself with, well, supplies.

EnixBelmont
Jul 11, 2006, 12:29 AM
The fact you get paid for missions and missions are a much bigger part of the game prevents me from thinking money will be hard to come by.

Inazuma
Jul 11, 2006, 12:47 AM
im planning on focusing on one force char only.

SirenV
Jul 11, 2006, 12:47 AM
Hmm, I'm sort of caught up between Hunter and Force.. my "first character" will probably be a hunter. I'm really eager to get my hands on new weapons.. like the dual claw, and knuckles.

Yeah, I have to say I didnt do much "ranging" in PSO. I had one RaMarl in PSOGC which I played for a bit, and I made a RAcaseal near the very end of PSOBB beta - just to mix it up... but that's about it. Everything else was Hunter/Force. (I watched my brother play Ranger, anyway)

Edit: Fixed repeating words... I'm tired.



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Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 12:50 AM
Am I the only one looking forward to using the double edged sabers? It's basically two swords. I see it as a polearm kind of weapon, which makes it 5x cooler.

Sevenfold
Jul 11, 2006, 12:52 AM
On 2006-07-10 22:47, Inazuma wrote:
im planning on focusing on one force char only.



/friend


P.S....dont tell FlakariLeader http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


And no Carlo210 Im with you bro, anything double is in my book of must have cool.


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Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 01:06 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/images/psu/guides/items/weapons_overview/doublesaber-1.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/images/psu/guides/items/weapons_overview/doublesaber-2.jpg

It just looks so cool. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
It's shown a lot in the single player videos that are on youtube.

Observe: first scene (cork attack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ic1MUVvwsU&search=phantasy%20star%20universe

It's strange how PSO-World says they are one-on-one weapons. That's kind of weird because this type of weapon should be able to hit more than one enemy for each swing (like a sword).

Sevenfold
Jul 11, 2006, 01:11 AM
Heh, I guess well find out eh.

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 01:17 AM
Anyone up for a weapons poll? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif ahaha
That'd be just foolish.




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TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 11, 2006, 01:32 AM
Wow. I just watched that video you posted Carlo...I guess I should surf Youtube more often! That officially is the best one I've seen so far. Can't wait...

Jife_Jifremok
Jul 11, 2006, 04:44 AM
Now that appearance is no longer tied to class (I think), I am free to be a Ranger! The only melee weapons I like are one-handed swords or clubs, and the only two-handed weapons I like are the unwieldy, heavy greatswords from Monster Hunter (which PSU seems to totally lack, as its two-handers are comparatively fast) and guns. Can't wait to see a BOOMstick in action.

Raikuro
Jul 11, 2006, 05:27 AM
I like rangers, but I'm not sure if I'll like limited ammo...

tank1
Jul 11, 2006, 07:48 AM
Cant wait to get back in the Ranger saddle and start blowing stuff away.

Shiro_Ryuu
Jul 11, 2006, 08:00 AM
I'll probably have a Ranger, but my primary guy is gonna be mostly a Hunter. Swords are super awesome!

Ikubi
Jul 11, 2006, 08:16 AM
I'm gonna have a Hunter and a Force as my main characters. The force class needs more love!! <3 Go go magic users!!

Neural_Nebula
Jul 11, 2006, 09:11 AM
Hunter will be my main; that's pretty much set in stone. Ranger as a secondary - I don't seem to feel anything of an allure towards the class though, strangely. I guess I was never drawn to the force profession since in most high-fantasy set MMORPGs I almost always wind up playing a caster. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I may dabble a bit in it later on however, I never get tired of tossing the odd fireball here and there - though, my most favourite of the traditional elements is ice/water with the occasional flick of a lightning bolt.

I don't know how I could've missed that video that was posted; looking at those PAs makes me all the more excited and hyped up for the game - oh-so graceful, but lmao at that dual knuckle PA "Lookit me ma', I'm-ma robot! Fwoom!". xD Finally I get to see some double-saber action and... Z'OMG! What do I spy there..?

Corkscrew PA = http://www.dragon-tear.net/images/bof2/2thumb/kat-twirl__ani.gif = BONUS! I’m all set now. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

echo-2003
Jul 11, 2006, 11:38 AM
I played a little bit of Hunter and Ranger in PSO and found them to be quite boring. My place is with Magic so I'm sticking with it, so much fun.

I can't wait for PSU, at first I didn't like the idea of having to equip weapons with magic but after seeing PSU's system explained a bit more I think i will like it even more then PSO!

echo-2003
Jul 11, 2006, 11:40 AM
I played a little bit of Hunter and Ranger in PSO and found them to be quite boring. My place is with Magic so I'm sticking with it, so much fun.

I can't wait for PSU, at first I didn't like the idea of having to equip weapons with magic but after seeing PSU's system explained a bit more I think i will like it even more then PSO!

Pure-chan
Jul 11, 2006, 11:58 AM
I think mainly FO for me. It's fun to control the tide of battle.



...and you're always in demand! XD

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 12:02 PM
Heh, boomstick. Did anyone else catch the Evil Dead reference?

Vetsent
Jul 11, 2006, 02:11 PM
I'm definitely being a RaCast.I'm so glad for the First Person Mode and one-handed machine guns(better dual wielding,power in the right hand,distraction in the left).Hunters just don't have the accuracy to deal with some enemies.I had trouble hitting anything as a Hunter because of the horrible ATA.Since gameplay looks a little faster,better accuracy looks like a must.

I am excited about the new Class Levels(Ranger,Hunter,and Force now leveling up sepreately from the character) allowing for some injinuity in all classes.

Also Rangers seem to fare well because they have enough strength(not the behemoth amount of a Hunter) and can cast what is needed spell-wise.This time round Rangers are also getting the new Laser Beams;D.

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 02:15 PM
I'm going to be either human or cast. I'll se either ranger or hunter (looking more forward to hunter due to more varied gameplay).

Kazzi
Jul 11, 2006, 02:17 PM
I'll probebly be a hunter since i planning on going Beast. I do love mechguns though so i'll probebly have a cast ranger aswell.

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 08:45 PM
Rangers are only able to change the element of their shots, right? That's 'it'?

The-King
Jul 11, 2006, 08:56 PM
I'm gonna see if I can make a Sephiroth look alike character for PSU, d'you think the'll have katanas for it? I really hope so, when I first saw the 13 hit combo thing in EGM I thought it was bull crap but it's as sound as a pound with me now. So I agree with Flakari, the strafing'll be sweet


Well truth be told people its not Forces Rangers and Hunters now, its Human, Newman, Cast or Beast, Fo Ra and Hu are you're jobs not your character

and one person can use swords guns and canes depending on their jobs but only certain weapons such as bow is only for the Force job but cane has been turned into a generic just like saber and Handgun


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EnixBelmont
Jul 11, 2006, 09:06 PM
There will probably be katanas, there were in PSO...

I still dont understand the people woho want to make sephiroth/Cloud/Goku/other popular character in this game. Do people not want to be unique at all? I know for a fact that there will be hundreds of sephiroths running around, and probably hundreds of Clouds and maybe Goku/DBZ characters. I say maybe because it has died down a little since PSO DC, and there is no really spiky hair this time around.

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 09:32 PM
On 2006-07-11 18:56, The-King wrote:
Well truth be told people its not Forces Rangers and Hunters now, its Human, Newman, Cast or Beast, Fo Ra and Hu are you're jobs not your character
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I knew that...

I'm asking - melee weapons have special attacks called photon blasts. Ranged weapons don't have any 'special' feature other than having a chance of causing a status effect relating to whatever element you have on the gun. I'm wonderng if there's anything else the rangers can do with their guns because I'm not sure I'd lke to stand and shoot.

Sevenfold
Jul 11, 2006, 09:33 PM
Well they can strafe now too http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Carlo210
Jul 11, 2006, 09:36 PM
Heh, yeah they can strafe now. They seem decent at weapons. Their starting ATP stat is 25% less than that of a hunter's.

Vetsent
Jul 12, 2006, 10:09 AM
On 2006-07-11 19:32, Carlo210 wrote:


On 2006-07-11 18:56, The-King wrote:
Well truth be told people its not Forces Rangers and Hunters now, its Human, Newman, Cast or Beast, Fo Ra and Hu are you're jobs not your character
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I knew that...

I'm asking - melee weapons have special attacks called photon blasts. Ranged weapons don't have any 'special' feature other than having a chance of causing a status effect relating to whatever element you have on the gun. I'm wonderng if there's anything else the rangers can do with their guns because I'm not sure I'd lke to stand and shoot.



Well,it levels up from like Frost to Ice to Blizzard now,not just one level like in PSO,making them useful in a pinch or better at messing up a group of enemies(when they haven't seen you yet and you do some moves that take preperation and it works since you have all the time in the world to do it).

Garroway
Jul 12, 2006, 10:26 AM
I plan on going forces - focusing on healing. You keep pounding, I'll keep you breathing - and make sure I don't get dirty.

Carlo210
Jul 12, 2006, 12:17 PM
So te ranged weapons can execute higher level elemental 'attacks' later on? If this is true (never heard it before), it'd be cool. I assume you mean that, with frost you'd shoot and enemy and they have a chance of freezing, but with blizzard, maybe theres a chance that anyone within a certain range of the blast will freeze. Is this the kind of idea you are talking about?

Eros17
Jul 13, 2006, 10:14 PM
Dual slicer wielding HUnewm.

AvianKaitos
Jul 13, 2006, 10:58 PM
I’m probably going to give the ole’ mechguns (or PSU equivalent) the back seat for a while. The allure of photon arts is just too strong, the way you fly through the air with grace and speed much like Tales of Symphonia.

Carlo210
Jul 13, 2006, 11:02 PM
I think way too many people are going to be huneters to make it really interesting for myself. There are more than 4 months left ntil release (360?) and I'll change my mind a lot.

AvianKaitos
Jul 13, 2006, 11:05 PM
Come to think of it we can play offline mode first to get a taste of each class, since Ethan is the renaissance man of weaponry.

EnixBelmont
Jul 13, 2006, 11:05 PM
IIRC, the 360 version was due to realise early 2007. I dont remember where I heard that though.

And you think the number of hunters here is bad? Wait until you play the actual game. 90% of all players were HUmars in PSO. The people here are PSO vets and the minority -_-

Rangers will probably be tied with forces for the least played class this time around. Maybe more forces. Either way, they'll probably be pretty close.

Carlo210
Jul 13, 2006, 11:08 PM
Yeah, but we all need to talk about PSU. That's why we're here!

EnixBelmont
Jul 13, 2006, 11:09 PM
Yeah, you could. I will be playing the import + Extra mode to help decide what race will be my main, and what weapons I'll use. Even though it's pretty much decided on me using 2 mains, Tenacious D, an HUcast, and Enix Belmont, a HUbeast. Then I'll have Robojesus X, a RAcast, and Enix Belnades, a FOmar, on the side. Eventually I have a feeling my FOmar will become my main, after I get the chance to tweak him with all the items I get with my hunters....

Vetsent
Jul 16, 2006, 12:41 AM
On 2006-07-12 10:17, Carlo210 wrote:
So te ranged weapons can execute higher level elemental 'attacks' later on? If this is true (never heard it before), it'd be cool. I assume you mean that, with frost you'd shoot and enemy and they have a chance of freezing, but with blizzard, maybe theres a chance that anyone within a certain range of the blast will freeze. Is this the kind of idea you are talking about?



Yeah,that and/or maybe a higher chance of freezing.I read in something in the PSU guides sections on here(where it first mentions the Ranger weapons abilities).

I hate this dislike for Rangers nowadays.Most people who are Hunters will say "OMFG,EYE FOUNDS A RAER".I will have a side character,Roy Campbell,who will be mainly a Humar,but I won't care for him that much,unlike my Racast,Revolver Ocelot,whom I will have as my main character.

Carlo210
Jul 16, 2006, 01:30 AM
I just personally don't see rangers putting out that much damage. They seems at if they can be disposable for a force. I mean, forces do ranged attacks slower than rangers, but they do much more damage and are blast-radius attacks. I'm still probably going to be a ranger, but there better be something in stock for them. Rifles are 1-enemy guns that, from what we've seen, do as much as 1 or 1.5 melee hits from a hunter. The thing is, hunters hit more than one enemy at a time. Sure, they gotta sacrafice distance, but they have more hp and defense for the risk. Also, forces have essentially the same 'role' as rangers, yet do more damage (at the expense of attack speed) to multiple enemies and can heal the party as well.
Laser cannons and launchers (and shotguns) better be better guns than rifles or else, personally, I can't see rangers being all that useful compared to a force.

I dunno. Someone enlighten me! Make me think otherwsie.

Jife_Jifremok
Jul 16, 2006, 05:13 AM
I don't care how much less damage a Ranger is gonna do, shotguns and rocket launchers are reason enough for me to play one. BOOM!

MoonSblaise
Jul 16, 2006, 09:50 AM
Mmmm Hunter ftw, but i'm worried this game will be a lil confusing for a PSO Virgin lol.

Abaru-FP
Jul 16, 2006, 02:06 PM
Hit the attack button as soon as the sword stops swinging. It took me a long time to figure out that button mashing doesn't work >_>

Oh, and dodge

tank1
Jul 16, 2006, 02:08 PM
Also dont go out without a full inventory e.g. lots of mates etc which is going to be critical now if you dont have a force handy.

Carlo210
Jul 16, 2006, 02:36 PM
But not 'too' full. You wanna be able to pick up those rares when they drop.

MoonSblaise
Jul 16, 2006, 03:33 PM
Oh the pressure XD lol

Vetsent
Jul 17, 2006, 01:16 AM
On 2006-07-15 23:30, Carlo210 wrote:
I just personally don't see rangers putting out that much damage. They seems at if they can be disposable for a force. I mean, forces do ranged attacks slower than rangers, but they do much more damage and are blast-radius attacks. I'm still probably going to be a ranger, but there better be something in stock for them. Rifles are 1-enemy guns that, from what we've seen, do as much as 1 or 1.5 melee hits from a hunter. The thing is, hunters hit more than one enemy at a time. Sure, they gotta sacrafice distance, but they have more hp and defense for the risk. Also, forces have essentially the same 'role' as rangers, yet do more damage (at the expense of attack speed) to multiple enemies and can heal the party as well.
Laser cannons and launchers (and shotguns) better be better guns than rifles or else, personally, I can't see rangers being all that useful compared to a force.

I dunno. Someone enlighten me! Make me think otherwsie.



Well,if you want better attack then make a RaCast/Caseal/Beast to fit your needs.I myself will make a Racast since they had the best good to bad ratios of PSO,and they will still be quite great in this one.

Hunters also sacrifice the ability to hit as much.Their accuracy wasn't something to rely on.I had a friend with some Hunters,but when we went into Ultimate mode,he got his @$$ kicked.

Carlo210
Jul 17, 2006, 01:34 AM
I'm probably going to be a ranger anyways, and a cast one at that since I love their look. I'm just wondering if they are going to be aything to boast about. I mean, I hope we get some better guns. Rifles are reasonably good, but for one enemy per 10-12 pp, it's costly (and since forces cast 400+dmg spells on 5 enemies for the same amount of pp at early stages). Shotguns are apparently weak and slow.
Rangers are supposed to be 'support' characters, but why not just grab a force to do the status ailment-causing (sure, not as good a chance to inflict one as a ranger, but does tons of damage in the process). I'm not trying to say forces are better than rangers, but from what we've seen, they seem more efficient at what rangers are 'supposed' to do.
I obviously don't know the whole wrapup about rangers, which is why I'm hoping what I 'dont' know is something real good.

Jife_Jifremok
Jul 17, 2006, 01:40 AM
This is all speculation based on what I know (which may be wrong), but..

When a Ranger runs out of PP he can still beat things up with whatever melee weapons he's able to use. When a Force runs out of PP...how melee-capable will a Force in be in PSU?

Carlo210
Jul 17, 2006, 01:42 AM
Not as melee capable as a ranger, but is that the upside of being a ranger vs being a force? You have a more reliable backup plan? Could someone who played a ranger enlighten us.

Jife_Jifremok
Jul 17, 2006, 02:33 AM
[edit: posted on wrong thread and I can't seem to delete it myself]

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Vetsent
Jul 17, 2006, 04:55 PM
On 2006-07-16 23:42, Carlo210 wrote:
Not as melee capable as a ranger, but is that the upside of being a ranger vs being a force? You have a more reliable backup plan? Could someone who played a ranger enlighten us.



Well,Rangers do have the better stats compared to Forces.Rangers can survive better than Forces any day.Forces increased MST and technic power only helps them as long as they have the energy for it.Rangers are great at close-range to since they have the accuracy to make up for the gap between a Hucast or a Hucaseal and,oh say,a Racast or a Racaseal.

I've been playing as a Racast since 2003 in PSO and I know that the Ranger class serves to be powerful.Especially since a surprise attack with a Ranger is the best way to start off a battle.Even if you're not a Ranger,you'll want one in your group when it comes to first strikes.

Kasuke
Jul 17, 2006, 05:18 PM
Vetsent, beasts have low ata and aren't suited to the Ranger job class.

Just thought I'd let you know.

I'm going to be a Hunter by the way. A newman hunter, to spice things up a little.

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Ether
Jul 17, 2006, 05:51 PM
On 2006-07-17 15:18, Kasuke wrote:
Vetsent, beasts have low ata and aren't suited to the Ranger job class.


High ata job plus high atp race could end up being very powerful. On weapons that hit many times (machine guns) a little extra atp can go a long way

Saner
Jul 17, 2006, 08:01 PM
Hunters, one reason because all their weapons are not 100% PP dependant, only for photon arts. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

besides if range is a problem, they can still use handguns. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Carlo210
Jul 17, 2006, 08:06 PM
On 2006-07-17 15:51, Ether wrote:


On 2006-07-17 15:18, Kasuke wrote:
Vetsent, beasts have low ata and aren't suited to the Ranger job class.


High ata job plus high atp race could end up being very powerful. On weapons that hit many times (machine guns) a little extra atp can go a long way



Urm... Beasts have 33 starting ATA while Casts have 47 ATA. Beast rangers will suck. They have 35 ATP while casts have 33 ATP, plus 14 more starting ATA than them. A Cast ranger will own a Beast ranger any day. Plus, Casts get a kickarse ranged special attack.

Jife_Jifremok
Jul 18, 2006, 01:36 AM
Can anyone confirm how important ATA actually is right now? If a low ATA means, say, you're missing one or two out of every ten shots, that isn't too bad. But if it's more like a Morrowind Effect where you can't hit the broad side of the very barn that you're shooting at point blank range...

Ether
Jul 18, 2006, 01:45 AM
On 2006-07-17 18:06, Carlo210 wrote:
Urm... Beasts have 33 starting ATA


And a cast hunter starts with 21

Carlo210
Jul 18, 2006, 11:14 AM
Ether. You know what, nevermind. I can't believe I'm going to talk about this. You are still going to reply with a post saying something like 'but beasts have better ATP!'.
Saying a beast ranger with 35 atp and 33 ata will be better than a cast with 33 atp and 47 ata is just plain stupid.
Yes, a cast hunter has 21 ata. You know why? Tell me why. You can do it. Yes! He's a hunter! Nobody said a cast hunter will make a better ranger than a cast ranger, so why are you telling me how much ata a cast hunter has, hmm?

*faints*