The Unofficial "Will My Computer Run PSU" Thread

[Carlo210]

Since there have been a LOT of threads popping up recently about your pcs and laptops, and whether or not they'll run PSU, I've made this thread so we can keep it all in one place.
Post your specs, and we'll all do our best to help you.
Enjoy!

[Jools]

I didn't think I could run it, but those listed requirements were surprisingly low. I have:


3.06 Ghz
Gig RAM
ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON™ 9200 with 64 MB VRAM

Any chance at all?

[Ether]

System Requirements are

OS: Windows 2000 (SP4 or later)/ XP (SP2 or later)
Processor: P4 1.6 GHz or higher, 2.6 GHz recommended
Memory: 256MB RAM, 512 recommended
Video: Higher than Geforce4 series / ATI RADEON 8500. VRAM 64MB, 128MB recommended

You should have no problems at all Jools

[-Crokar-]

i cant run it on my pc its too old.

[Jools]

Blimey! I'll be amazed if my pc runs it! *enters into shock*.

My choice really is will my pc (with the above specs) look nicer than the PS2 version, or not? Hmmmmmmm.

-Jools

[Fleece]

yeah jools you should be able to run it although you 64 MB video ram is worrying. if your on a laptop youll have to live with minimum settings, if your on a desktop just buy a new graphics card, simple.

[Jools]

Yeah, its a laptop. I'm torn between the PC and PS2 version now...

Edit: The question is, will minimum settings PC version look/play better than the PS2 one?

Edit 2: For the guy wondering, mine is a VAIO PCG-K315S.

-Jools

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[Nika]

3.06 Ghz for laptop!!? it is unbelievable!!
Can you tell me your laptop series ?(JP series is ok)
My newiest VAIO is only 2.13 Ghz
1 G RAM
128 MB nVidiaGeForce card
I just buy it for this game 3 month ago.



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[Cruisectrl]

I got that 3K$ Toshiba Qosmio G35-AV650 for 617CAN (thats including shipping,etc) Brand New!!
CPU 2.3GHz Intel Core Duo T2300 processor
Operating System Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
RAM 4GB
Hard Drive 5,400-rpm 200GB (dual 100GB hard drives)
Optical Drive 2X DVD+R DL
3X DVD-RAM
4X DVD+RW
4X DVD-RW
8X DVD-ROM
16X CD-R
10X CD-RW
24X CD-ROM
Display/Resolution 17-inch Ultimate TruBrite widescreen/1920 x 1200 WUXGA (1080p HD format)
Graphics/Video Memory Nvidia GeForce Go 7600
Wireless Networking 802.11a/b/g. Bluetooth 2.0
Ports Four USB 2.0. RGB, S-Video, HDMI, RJ-45 LAN port, RJ-11, i-Link 1394, S/PDIF Optical Audio Output, mic, dual headphone jack
PC Card Slots PCMCIA, ExpressCard
Memory Card Slots 5-in-1 card reader

EBay Rocks Me



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[JAR]

Grats, looks like you found a really decent laptop.

[Carlo210]

64mv really isn't enough for the game. People've been playing the beta with 64mb and they got a lot of lag. Brightstar (Johnathan_f) was playing with someone with a 64mb card and he couldn't even keep up with the team because of how slow PSU was running for him with 64mb graphics.
And, yes, everything was set on 'low'.

[detective392]

will my laptop be able to run it i dont nkow if this is the correct information you need though
AMD turion(tm) 64 mobile
1.79GHz 960mb of RAM
ATI radeon Xpress 200m graphics

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-26 14:37, detective392 wrote:
will my laptop be able to run it i dont nkow if this is the correct information you need though
AMD turion(tm) 64 mobile
1.79GHz 960mb of RAM
ATI radeon Xpress 200m graphics




Those specs are pretty much identical to the specs on my work laptop lol. I'll definitely be loading the PC version on it to see how well it runs and posting my results. I can tell you that it runs the character creation part fine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Of course that doesn't mean anything in terms of how well the actual game will play obviously.

[Emrald]

Since this is kinda like the computer spot....I'll ask away

As far as I was told everything was good about my computer BUT the graphics card....How do I check what kind of slot I have without opening my computer?

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-26 14:46, coolcat33333 wrote:
Since this is kinda like the computer spot....I'll ask away

As far as I was told everything was good about my computer BUT the graphics card....How do I check what kind of slot I have without opening my computer?


You can download CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-135.zip) and run it. Go to the MAINBOARD tab and look under GRAPHIC INTERFACE. I believe you posted your dxdiag in anotehr thread and I saw AGP listed, so this will tell you what transfer rate your AGP slot is.

[Emrald]

The part about my graphic interface is blank...

[Grigori]

My Specs:

Dell Dimension 4600, 60 GB Harddrive (lol...), 510 MB RAM, 2.66GHz Intel Pentium 4, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 graphics card, and CDRW/DVDR.

Im thinking I can run it decently, but Im also looking to upgrade my shtuff. Most likely going to get a new hard drive, but Im not sure what else or what exactly to get. I need guidance (o3o)! Need opinions on a good graphics card also.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-26 14:53, coolcat33333 wrote:
The part about my graphic interface is blank...


There is a good chance that you have neither an AGP nor a PCI Express X16 expansion slot.

You can also try downloading SIW (http://www.gtopala.com/siw.exe) and run it. Under HARDWARE, click on SYSTEM SLOTS and you will see an upper and lower pane. In the upper pane click a SYSTEM SLOT and look to see what the SLOT TYPE is in the lower pane. I'm thinking it may just list 3 or 4 PCI slots with nothing else.

If it does not list an AGP or PCI-Express X16, then chances are you don't have one. You could always open the case and visually confirm it though if you want.

Usually its easy to find specs for specific models, but your VAIO PCV-RS311 is rather elusive lol.



On 2006-07-26 14:56, Grigori wrote:
My Specs:

Dell Dimension 4600, 60 GB Harddrive (lol...), 510 MB RAM, 2.66GHz Intel Pentium 4, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 graphics card, and CDRW/DVDR.

Im thinking I can run it decently, but Im also looking to upgrade my shtuff. Most likely going to get a new hard drive, but Im not sure what else or what exactly to get. I need guidance (o3o)! Need opinions on a good graphics card also.


Looks like your motherboard supports Dual Channel mode so I'm thinking you have (2) 256MB sticks of RAM atm, with another 2 slots (second channel) available. If that's the case another (2) 256MB sticks of PC2700 will give you 1GB of RAM. To verify that, go to CRUCIAL (http://www.crucial.com/index.asp) and click on SCAN MY SYSTEM. You will be asked to download the CRUCIAL SYSTEM SCANNER. Download it and run it and that will take you to a page that lists how many slots you have and what type of memory is curently installed.

As for the videocard, the specs I'm seeing for your model state that it has an AGP 8X slot (which is where the 5200 is now obviously.) Do you have an idea of what you might want to spend on a videocard? Are you wanting to play newer games besides just PSU also?


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[Grigori]

Besides PSU, I usually play Morrowind, Oblivion and Black and White 2. Im looking to expand later, so Im preparing for any higher grade requirements.

Im looking to spend...maybe $500 on a video card. Something that's upper midrange or low end high range, if that makes any sense.

[detective392]

this proberly wont matter but if my laptop can handle guildwars and the psu player creation can i handle this game?

[Grigori]

I used that crucial scan thing, but everytime I run it, it takes me to a blank notepad document ?_?

[Grigori]

Nevermind, switched file types and it works http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Ive got 4 slots, 2 filled with 256MB each (DDR PC2700).

[Emrald]

I just looked...I have ONE agp/pci slot.....What would you recamend that's cheep but will run psu with ease?

[Blitzkommando]

On 2006-07-26 15:37, Grigori wrote:
Besides PSU, I usually play Morrowind, Oblivion and Black and White 2. Im looking to expand later, so Im preparing for any higher grade requirements.

Im looking to spend...maybe $500 on a video card. Something that's upper midrange or low end high range, if that makes any sense.


If you're not nervous about it, check out your power supply unit. That will tell us just how 'beefy' of a card you will have support for. AGP is a bit tricky to work with today as there are rather few 'new' cards for that interface. Overall, right now the best AGP card is the 7800GS by nVidia. However, ATI is readying to release the X1700 series which will be AGP compatable as well supposedly. Whether or not it compares performance-wise (and feature-wise) with the 7800GS remains yet to be seen. But, both of these will probably recommend at least 350 watts if not 400 watts of stable power as well as decent amperage on the line as well. Both the 7800GS and X1700 should be well under $500. Keep in mind though that your Pentium 4 2.66 is a bit old and will bottleneck both of those cards, especially at higher resolutions. It should perform fine for most things, but Oblivion is tasking even on the newest systems so don't expect to run it maxed out by any means. (Heck, even people with ultra high end systems today have hard times getting high settings in that game, so don't feel bad about that) PSU should run fully maxed saying that Sega did a decent job in cleaning up the coding this time around. (Maxed at 1280x1024 for sure, 1600x1200 might require a step or two off of the anti-alias)



On 2006-07-26 18:29, coolcat33333 wrote:
I just looked...I have ONE agp/pci slot.....What would you recamend that's cheep but will run psu with ease?


What do you mean by AGP/PCI? As in one of each? If so, as long as the AGP is at least 4x compatable go with that as you will get far and above the bandwidth (performance) with the same card in a PCI version. PCI video cards perform horribly due to the interface being strictly not designed for graphics. Always go with AGP over PCI (not to be confused with PCI-Express).

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[detective392]

how about this desktop
pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.4GHz
2.4GHz
512 MB of RAM
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
total memory 128.0 MB

[StarWind09]

heh yeah detective392, that desktop will certainly run PSU well... (by the listed requirements)
I still think that those requirements aren't exactly accurate...
My Opinion to run the game without a glitch would be:
-Pentium 4 1.6Ghz
-512MB of RAM (1 GB would be best)
-A Graphics Card with 256mb (128mb is acceptable) (8-12pixel pipelines) wtf I still don't understand how they post 64mb as an appropriate requirement!
-and of course a hard drive with enough capacity

I could be completely wrong but what I listed would be a very good setup to run this game.

[-Crokar-]

im not big on computers and what not but how do i find out if i have the requirments ive seen it once but dont remember

[VioletSkye]

START>RUN>type in DXDIAG and hit OK or Enter. For a quick rundown of your specs look at the PROCESSOR and MEMORY under the SYSTEM tab and NAME and APPROX. TOTAL MEMORY under the DISPLAY tab. That will at least give you the basic specs of your machine. Also you need a DVD player.



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[Vetsent]

Even though I just got a really good PC(cost-to-power ratio,180GB Hard Drive,504 MB memory,an Intell Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz. processor,and a 19" Flat Panel,all for $500,not on Ebay,but directly from Dell(super desktop deal week,once a year).

The problem is,I don't know a whole lot about the computer world(I know the internet world well,but not when it comes to my PC) and what I need to know is how I can check my Video Card and how much the recommended(128 MB VRam) would go for.Can anyone help?



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[StarWind09]

START>RUN>type in DXDIAG and hit OK or Enter. Then click the "Display" Tab. In that you should see "Device" and that will tell you all you need to know about your graphics card.

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-28 11:03, StarWind09 wrote:
START>RUN>type in DXDIAG and hit OK or Enter. Then click the "Display" Tab. In that you should see "Device" and that will tell you all you need to know about your graphics card.



It still didn't tell me:(.Unless you mean everything in Device is what my Video Card is,or is it just one line.If that entire section is it then that means I have 128MB.

[StarWind09]

All your card info is inside the little "Device" box.
For example here is mine...

Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX420
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce4 MX 420
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Approx. Total Memory: 64.0 MB
(This is a garbage graphics card i know!) haha

You should see something similar to that but your chip and info will obviously be different.
Oh I just read your comment again... yeah that whole area is your graphjcs card and 128MB is recommened.

[IhateUrHate]

i just need my graphics card and ill be all set ^_^

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-28 12:51, StarWind09 wrote:
All your card info is inside the little "Device" box.
For example here is mine...

Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX420
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce4 MX 420
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Approx. Total Memory: 64.0 MB
(This is a garbage graphics card i know!) haha

You should see something similar to that but your chip and info will obviously be different.
Oh I just read your comment again... yeah that whole area is your graphjcs card and 128MB is recommened.



I've got all I need Hardware-wise it seems.The only
thing I have to worry about is my damned dia-up(I can't get BroadBand where I live,before those raised on BroadBand go all noobish on me).

[Jack]

Will my PC run PSU?

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 5000+ (2.6GHz)
Memory: Corsair XMS3200 2GB @ PC3520 (220MHz)
Motherboard: ASRock 939Dual-SATA2
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB
Sound: Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4

Possibly. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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[Fleece]

Jack you ass, Theres no need to show off. This forum is for folks who need help with their systems.

BTW if anyone from the UK wants to build a PC for cheap and knows how to wire up Hard drives, CD drives and insert GFX cards theres some nice cheap barebone systems at :

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/barebones.html

All these PC's can run PSU except the first which needs a memory upgrade.

P.S I'm at my gf's atm i hope PSU isnt dependent on system memory, i gave her my old PC

CPU : Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ
Memory : 768 MB RAM (Its 133 though *Dies*)
Graphics Chip Set : Geforce FX 5900

My AGP port is only 4X too *Dies*


Although i did just inherit an Nforce 2 Board with an AMD 2800 + inside, BTW are they supposed to run at 40 - 50 Degrees???



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[Fleece]

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[_EiN_]

Name: ATI radeaon Xpress 200 series
Manufactuer: ATI tech. inc
Chip type: ATI radeaon Xpress 200 series (0x5954)
DAC type: Internal Dac (400Mhz)
Approx total memory: 256mb
Current display mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60HZ)
Monitor: HP vs17 flat pnal monitor

i dont know much about the internal workings of a computer so i just typed everything down. i have played Rakion the mmo but i have been told i lag.

my connection: veriozondsl

could it be my connection that would present a problem. i need to know, some one help! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[VioletSkye]

What are the rest of your PC specs?

[StarWind09]

_EiN_ what processor do you have in your computer and amount of memory(RAM)?
The graphics card... well i don't know much about the Xpress 200 and can't find a lot of info on it but Rakion isn't a very graphic demanding game so it may be time for you to update your card if your processor and memory are good and you still lag during that game. (or your internet connection is the problem)

[Cruisectrl]

if oyur lagging in Rakion then thats probably a bad sign

[VioletSkye]

Actually there is TONS of info on the Express 200 series, directly from ATI's site. Radeon Xpress 200 Series. (http://www.ati.com/products/radeonxpress200series/) As I have mentioned several times before, I'm not holding my breath for descent performance in PSU with the Xpress 200 but we won't know until the game is released. My laptop uses the 200M chipset and I will post my results for others to see and decide whether or not they want to go that route. The 200M utilizes a graphcs core that is a derivative of the X300 PCI Express.

[_EiN_]

Processer: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processer 3800+, MMX, 3d now, ~2.4ghz
Memory: 958mb RAM

is this the right info.?
can i run it?
maybe? A little?

[_EiN_]

i went to a website that tested the speed of my internet connection. it turned up this number.

715.4 kbps

can that be a factor in why i lagg acasionally in Rakion.

[StarWind09]

I was looking for Benchmarks mainly. FPS tell you a lot of info quickly rather than reading through a bunch of stuff from the ati site who of course are biased to their product. I'm sure if you searched enough you could find some benchmarks for the card.
If I were you I would just save up for a better graphics card... (newegg.com has some good deals)

i'm not too familiar with AMD's... but your internet connection seems good so it can't be that.

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-29 14:47, _EiN_ wrote:
i went to a website that tested the speed of my internet connection. it turned up this number.

715.4 kbps

can that be a factor in why i lagg acasionally in Rakion.



I'm pretty sure it will work since mine will work it from the statistics and my internet is dial-up(Earthlink with Accelerator,all I can get out here in the peaceful countryside).If they don't accept dial-up though(not that it wouldn't work,just that some of the higher-ups who want to save money,not Yuji Naka,might try it),I'll have problems.And before you guys go crying over the fact that seeing dial-up users will slow your game down,think of this,it doesn't affect your game,so I don't want to hear it(Heard to much of it in my topic "Wait a minute,I though I needed BroadBand...").

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-29 15:17, StarWind09 wrote:
I was looking for Benchmarks mainly. FPS tell you a lot of info quickly rather than reading through a bunch of stuff from the ati site who of course are biased to their product. I'm sure if you searched enough you could find some benchmarks for the card.
If I were you I would just save up for a better graphics card... (newegg.com has some good deals)

i'm not too familiar with AMD's... but your internet connection seems good so it can't be that.


I guess the point I was making is that if for straight out specs on the 200 series, you can get that all from ATI's site. As for benchmarks, you most likely aren't going to find alot of comprehensive info because it's not really meant to compete with dedicated videocards (which is why ATI gave it the relatively low reference number of 200.) The graphics engine runs at 350MHz, but it's not fast enough to even compare to any current PCI-Express cards because of memory bottlenecks. The chipset itself is fine when running a dedicated card but the integrated X300-like core is simply not very powerful.

If you simply want to look at a few benchmarks just for fun, you can do that here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/11/08/the_athlon64_radeon_xpress/page16.html

_EiN_, the rest of your specs look great, but as has been mentioned already, you may want to look at a descent mid-range dedicated videocard. Broadband speed tests can generally be unreliable but even at 715kbps, you should do just fine as long as your latency isn't too high.

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[_EiN_]

soo... can i run it based on the specs i provided. starwind mentioned my processer is not known by most could this be the problem. should i get a new one. if i do have to buy a new one ill just settle for the ps2 version...

i basically need someone knowledgable about computers to look over my computers specs and say, yes or no. that would be a huge help.

but i play FABLE and it run good and looks good if that helps... i hope it does.


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[Fleece]

I know this is off topic but ;

It will affect our game vetsent as all the monsters on PSU are server side unlike PSO's so if you die while lagging we'll have to res your ass repeatedly. Not that i mind of course.......we get 50 Moon atomisers i think Lol

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-29 16:07, _EiN_ wrote:
soo... can i run it based on the specs i provided. starwind mentioned my processer is not known by most could this be the problem. should i get a new one. if i do have to buy a new one ill just settle for the ps2 version...


Actually your processor is extremely well known, so I have no idea what he's talking about. The only concern is video related. If the Xpress 200 lags your game badly or won't allow descent settings/resolution, then it's time for a dedicated videocard.



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[Fleece]

Violet ive had the M200 chipset running F.E.A.R on low details at 40 FPS
so it should run PSU on low - medium detail

[VioletSkye]

Good to know http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
It will be interesting to see just how well it does with PSU since many members seem to be using that chipset (mostly in laptops.) If it really does do well, that will make a lot of members very happy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[StarWind09]

No I mentioned "I" do not know much about AMD processors not that most do not. =P

either way you should look into upgrading your card. if you do that I would say definately "yes" you can run psu.(with at least decent settings)

[Fleece]

WOW!!!! AMD graphics cards...........When i fell asleep did time progress without me??????

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-29 16:22, Fleece wrote:
WOW!!!! AMD graphics cards...........When i fell asleep did time progress without me??????


AMD and ATI merged recently (actually AMD bought them out) so who knows what the future has in store with that partnership http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

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[Fleece]

Hmmmm long live the day where the high end CPU's come with a High end GFX core on the same chip.

[_EiN_]

thanks a lot for those who helped me out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif and sorry for misunderstanding you starwind. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Fleece]

noone answered my AMD question.....

Are the athlon/sempron XP's supposed to run at 50 Degrees C?

[VioletSkye]

Should hover around 40-50 degrees Celsius under normal operating modes.

[Fleece]

Im not used to XP chipset so thanks for that, under full strain the cpu goes upto 55 Degrees C annd it wont go higher.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-07-29 17:11, Fleece wrote:
Im not used to XP chipset so thanks for that, under full strain the cpu goes upto 55 Degrees C annd it wont go higher.


Perfect http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
You obviously have good cooling.

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-29 16:08, Fleece wrote:
I know this is off topic but ;

It will affect our game vetsent as all the monsters on PSU are server side unlike PSO's so if you die while lagging we'll have to res your ass repeatedly. Not that i mind of course.......we get 50 Moon atomisers i think Lol



Not by what some trustworthy members said on my topic "Wait a minute,I thought I needed BroadBand".If you want to see it look for it a few pages back.

[Fleece]

No they speculated you would be OK, noone has tested PSU on 56k. Being qualified in networking lets me tell you your 56k will have a rubbish upload rate thus preducing lag to the server and those who witness you. I'm not saying it wont be playable, just prepare for "OMFG WTF HE WAS NOWHERE NEAR ME!!!!1!!!111!!!!!!" syndrome.

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-29 17:45, Fleece wrote:
No they speculated you would be OK, noone has tested PSU on 56k. Being qualified in networking lets me tell you your 56k will have a rubbish upload rate thus preducing lag to the server and those who witness you. I'm not saying it wont be playable, just prepare for "OMFG WTF HE WAS NOWHERE NEAR ME!!!!1!!!111!!!!!!" syndrome.



I've already experienced that against players with bad routers in Metroid Prime:Hunters on the DS.They dodge bullets and warp across the screen(obviously lagging because they eventually get a bad enough connection that they lose contact with the servers and leave the battles).It comes to an advantage when they aren't aware of it and they hide around a corner,the bullets wiz by them,but the get a HeadShotXD.

[Fleece]

Welcome to the world of lag, your experience would only be something as you described on really really bad days. even the few kilobites a second you can upload will only give you a 1/4 of a second delay or something around there and PSU isnt exactly a fast paced first person shooter lol but on the other hand you will feel the lag.

[Nuclearranger]

PSU runs everything threw the server unlike PSO causing more lag but it is safer and more syncronized. So you could accualy be hit by monsters when you dont see them if you are on 56k.

[Fleece]

I just said that........

[Velocity_7]

P4 1.8 GHz
768 MB RAM
Geforce FX 5200 64 MB

This machine will run PSU but under pretty low settings and at a cap of 30 fps. 60 fps ends up having framerates falling to the 40~50 range and at the time of the beta, there was no auto frameskipping implemented.

[Feelmirath]

To anyone who has a 64MB gfx card, you can buy a 128MB card for less than 30 GBP nowdays, which isn't much at all.

[Nuclearranger]

I thought there was an option for frame skips... on the top right in one of the windows i dont read JP so i have no idea. It had the options 0,1,2,3
hmm.
I am getting a new GPU and idk when so i might be using this one for awile.... My old one i have now runs the character creatation at full but that looked easy to run. So that was a bad test for it.
Did anyone have a card close to the ATI X600



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[Vetsent]

1.What is Dierect X?
2.How do I check for it in my computer?

[PandaMasterX4]

Most games install the latest version of directX for you anyway.

I'll run this with no problem on my PC.

AMD 3600 duel core
GeForce 6600GTX > will be upgraded to duel 7800GTX
2 gigs of RAM

[JAR]

Is there any kind of benchmark I can use to tell how well my Radeon 9600 pro will process the graphics for PSU.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-03 14:01, Vetsent wrote:
1.What is Dierect X?
2.How do I check for it in my computer?


1. Good "not too technical" explanation (http://www.techterms.org/definition/directx)
2. To check your version of DirectX go to START>RUN>type in DXDIAG and hit ENTER. It will be listed on that first tab SYSTEM at the bottom under DIRECTX VERSION. The latest is DirectX 9.0C



On 2006-08-03 14:17, JAR wrote:
Is there any kind of benchmark I can use to tell how well my Radeon 9600 pro will process the graphics for PSU.


Not really (there are benchmarking programs like 3dMark but it's not really going to tell you what to expect from PSU.) Depending on the rest of your specs, I would venture to guess it would run somewhere between the low to mid range settings on a resolution of probably 1024x768 or 1280x1024.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-03 14:41 ]</font>

[Fleece]

Your 9600 will run PSU, my friend has a 256 Pro version on AGP 8x. Its an excellent card in my opinion for its age and price, it runs battlefield 2 on medium to high settings. PSU should be no problem.

On a side note i got an ATi x700 card this morning for 40 pounds, BARGAIN!!! although it requires a power connector for the fan and it didnt ship with one.......luckily the power connector it needed to run is a floppy power lead (which is strange if you didnt know graphics cards) so now i lack a floppy drive, Not that i ever use floppies LOL.

Also if you want a good card for cheap eBay IS a good source for second hand components, and most things are under warranty. Just be careful if you use it and make sure what you buy IS under some sort of guarantee

[scott1114]

Can you put 256mb DDR-RAM with 512mb DDR-RAM so it can be 768mb RAM on your computer?

[PandaMasterX4]

You can, but why not just get two 512s

[Fleece]

Scott you can BUT you have to make sure its a speed your motherboard can take and its the same speed and type as the current RAM you currently have in, there ARE ways around around it if you buy a stick slower/faster of the same type of RAM you have in but it involves messing around with the timings on the motherboard. Also buy the same type IF you have DDR buy DDR not DDR2 or SDRAM.

Please note i said IF you have DDR, it is possible you may have a different kind of memory altogether. Please post your computer specs i will help all i can.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Fleece on 2006-08-05 05:46 ]</font>

[scott1114]

Ok I have DDR 133MHZ and it works the two togeter

[Fleece]

Hmmm DDR is strange in that its frequency output (I.E. speed) is basically double of what SDRAM can put out due to it sending signals at the highest and lowest points of the frequency instead of at just 1 point like SDRAM does this means it can sometimes report differently in motherboards that only check for one signal so your RAM could either be DDR 266 MHZ (and the motherboard is only reporting it at one end of the frequency, I.E 133) or it could be SDRAM who's max speed was 133. If you can please post the PC number on the RAM I.E DDR 400 MHZ is PC 3200 while DDR 333MHZ is PC2700 or if you can in fact tell me if it is SDRAM. If you want you can actually discover if it SDRAM by removing it from your motherboard via pushing down the clips either side of it (MAKE SURE THE PC IS NOT PLUGGED IN AND YOUR NOT STATICALLY CHARGED, touching a steel water pipe or steel tap can help ground yourself and disperse static from your body) IF it is DDR it will where it plugs in have 2 slots with one space nearish the middle, if it is SDRAM it will have three slots and two spaces at the bottom one near the end and one near the middle. the spaces im in reference too are gaps in the curcuit board.

[Kyuu]

On 2006-08-05 11:22, Fleece wrote:

(MAKE SURE THE PC IS NOT PLUGGED IN AND YOUR NOT STATICALLY CHARGED, touching a steel water pipe or steel tap can help ground yourself and disperse static from your body)

The easiest way to make sure you're not statically charged is just to touch the power supply every-so-often.

[Saner]

power supply? they might think they must stuff their fingers into the outlet. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

"oh sure! you will no longer be statically charged. Just electrocuted." http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Kyuu]

... You touch the outside case of the power supply. You don't jam your fingers into an electrical socket or try to touch the internal components. ~_~

I think, in Saner, we've found the reason why all those warning labels on all our products are necessary... >.>

[qoxolg]

For everyone with a ATI Mobility xpress 200...

A friend of mine played the beta with a Turion laptop with one of those.. the character cerations goes perfect, but the game itself was even on the lowest settings unplayable..

[Fleece]

Hmm strange, i know the m200 chipset is weak but it should run PSU on 800 by 600 on low /medium settings alright ive seen this chipset in action with a laptop of 1GB of RAM and 256 of it used on the Graphics and it ran F.E.A.R on the lowest settings alright, also grounding via the PSU only really works if your plug has a grounding pin on it, I.E. U.K. plugs

Sorry if this doesnt make sense im pissed out my face. long night, i sleep long time soon.

[VioletSkye]

That definitely strengthens my suspicions about the Xpress 200M chipset not being able to run PSU well.

[Saner]

On 2006-08-05 18:58, Kyuu wrote:
... You touch the outside case of the power supply. You don't jam your fingers into an electrical socket or try to touch the internal components. ~_~

I think, in Saner, we've found the reason why all those warning labels on all our products are necessary... >.>



lol well there was a case someone's trailer ran off the road while on cruise control, then won a lawsuit cause something wasn't in the manual. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

ya safety first! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Kyuu]

On 2006-08-05 20:31, Fleece wrote:

also grounding via the PSU only really works if your plug has a grounding pin on it, I.E. U.K. plugs

Well, I dunno how it is in Europe, but in the US all plugs have a grounding pin. It's mandatory.

[l3iohazard]

Operating System: Windows 2000 (SP4 or later)/ XP (SP2 or later)--------i got a xp and it sp2
Processor: P4 1.6 GHz or higher------3.4GHz
Memory: Minimum 256MB RAM------%12 Ram
Video: higher than Geforce4 series / ATI RADEON 8500----how do u check this?!?!
Disk Space: minimum 3.0GB (10GB required for product) im pretty sure i got over 60 gigs left
Connectivity: Online Broadband recommended---DSL ftw


yea so all i need to know is if my video card can handle this (so where do i find this)
Control Options:

[Fossil]

Right click on the Desktop, go to Properties>Settings>Advanced>Adapter

Should tell you right there what your video card is.

[Fleece]

8500 will most probably be 64 MB

i HAVE a 9200 going spare if your UK Lol I assume your on a desktop.

[_EiN_]

honestly as i have said i dont know much about the internal workings of a comp. but can you guys give me a name of a graphics card that will run psu beautifully. then i could check the price. i recently came up on some $$$. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Emrald]

OH GOD...I'm back...I'm guna do some shopping today....But I'm not sure what I need to upgrade besides my grpahics card...HELP MEEEEEE...I can't think streight

[VioletSkye]

@ _EiN_ - If you want a great midrange card just to handle PSU with no problems, then I'd probably recommend an X1800GTO or for around $30-40 more get the X1800GTO2 (which has 512MB of VRAM vs the 256MB VRAM of the GTO.)

Radeon X1800GTO 256MB - $199.99 ($189.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate.) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161004) This card is unlockable, meaning you can open up the 4 other pipes (soft modding to an X1800XL)

Radeon X1800GTO2 512MB - $239.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102027) Already has the 16 pipes of an XL.

If you don't want to spend quite that much but still run PSU great and have close to the performance of the X1800GTO, you could go with a 7600GT.

eVGA Geforce 7600GT KO 256MB - $165.99 ($145.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017)

I forgot to mention, you will most likely need to upgrade your Power Supply as well.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-07 11:27 ]</font>

[Emrald]

nope...to expensive for me.....I only have 171 dollers to spend....You said my computer would run it find other then the graphics card earlier...I was going for something cheep...like a geforce 5200 and maybe like 200mb ram upgrade...could i still buy psu and pay monthly fee til holidays?

[Fleece]

the x700 and x800's are cheap nowadays and i STILL say the x1600 is THE BEST budget card out there, I use one myself for Battlefield 2 and get over 60 FPS with anisotropic 4x on and everything turned up full.

[Emrald]

well...specs time...again >>

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so what should I do with only 171 avilable and still be able to play psu well and be able to buy it and pay for monthly fee til holidays?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: coolcat33333 on 2006-08-07 11:46 ]</font>

[VioletSkye]

As Fleece mentioned, the X1600 is an excellent budget card. I'd still go with the 256MB version.

The Pro version is a slower clocked card compared to the XT.

Radeon X1600PRO 256MB - $95.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102651)

Radeon X1600XT 256MB - $135.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131429)

The PRO card uses GDDR2 whereas the XT card uses GDDR3 (as do all top of the line cards these days) but you can get a 256MB X1600PRO with GDDR3 also for about $15 more. They run at a higher core clock speed and will be a little faster.

Radeon X1600PRO 256MB GDDR3 - $109.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102019)

[Emrald]

But your not seeing my problem...could I get that and still be able to run psu with not the recamended ram AND have minimal slowdowns ANNNND still be able to buy psu and pay for the montly fee for the hoilodays at 171 dollers?

also i noticed that it said those are pciexpress....I don't think i got an express card from my stats

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: coolcat33333 on 2006-08-07 12:16 ]</font>

[VioletSkye]

You do have the recommended amout of RAM (512MB). The reason it says 504MB atm is because part of your memory is being used for video, once the new card is installed and you disable the onboard video in the BIOS, it will read 512MB.

Let's say you get the X1600 Pro w/ GDDR2 for $95.99 + $6 for shipping, you'll be at roughly $102. You can get a new power supply that will handle the card for around $34.

Thermaltake ATX 430W Power Supply - $30.29 (http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A6211170) + $4 for shipping.

That totals $136 which would leave you with $35 for monthly fees.

[coomdoom]

I am going to have to update my graphics card before the game comes out because the beta version was blurry, i updated my graphics card and it became nice and clear, so i advise that all people who haven't updated their graphics card when the game comes out then you should. It can make a huge difference.

[Emrald]

Hmmm.....But I mean I don't want to shop online...I'm going to the comp usa tonight....and that doesn't anwser my question...do i have a pci express slot? i didn't see one...

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 12:37, coolcat33333 wrote:
Hmmm.....But I mean I don't want to shop online...I'm going to the comp usa tonight....and that doesn't anwser my question...do i have a pci express slot? i didn't see one...


There is no way of knowing from the info that you posted. If you don't see one inside the case then you obviously don't have one.

[PandaMasterX4]

Only problem with that Skye, is that he won't have money to pay for the game.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 12:40, PandaMasterX4 wrote:
Only problem with that Skye, is that he won't have money to pay for the game.


It would leave $21 for fees if he went with the AGP version. Also (as I already mentioned, you can probably find them for cheaper.)



On 2006-08-07 12:42, coolcat33333 wrote:
Yeah....Would it be okay if I just bought a geforce5200 and would the game still runsmothly after that?


I wouldn't hold my breath expecting good results with a geforce 5200. Maybe at a lower resolution with medium to low settings. Who knows though. We aren't going to know what it runs like on minimum specs (read low end) until the game is actually released. We can speculate all day long and it won't really mean anything.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-07 12:48 ]</font>

[Emrald]

Yeah....Would it be okay if I just bought a geforce5200 and would the game still runsmothly after that?

[Emrald]

I could set settings to low, right? I'm really not into good graphics...I just want the game to play with little screw ups...

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 12:47, coolcat33333 wrote:
I could set settings to low, right? I'm really not into good graphics...I just want the game to play with little screw ups...


I would think you would be able to run it on at least lower settings ok as long as you keep the resolution down. As I mentioned though, we aren't going to know until the retail version is released.

[Emrald]

anyone wana give a speculation on that? should I hold off on doing some upgrading untill I know?

[PandaMasterX4]

get a 5200 or the radeon i listed. It'll look along the lines of the PS2 with a bit more lag and frame rate drop in general.

Trust me, you'll hate cities.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: PandaMasterX4 on 2006-08-07 12:55 ]</font>

[Emrald]

Wait....how much lag and frame rate drops?....will it be signifigent that I will hate it...or will it be minor?

[PandaMasterX4]

I'd say your average framerate will possibly be 18fps instead of the 30 (it is 30 right?). Lag in clustered areas will definately suffer but i mean, you're not really hanging out in huge crowds anyway so it'll be easier.

[Emrald]

I won't mind to much lag in cities...but like in parties of six it should be fine right?

[Emrald]

hmm...maybe i should get a 6200?

[PandaMasterX4]

Expect 18fps in a party i'd say. The more enemies and spells casted at the same time, the bumpier the ride.

[PandaMasterX4]

Even those you can find for about 60-80 dollars. It's worth the buy imo.

[Emrald]

So if i got a 6200 give me a like...thingy...of what could be....sorry i know very little about computers....Just how to use them

[_EiN_]

theres been a grip of posts in between my lat post i hope you guys know what im talking about. how do i know if i have to upgrade my power supply?

[Mwabwetumba]

I fail real good at computer spec. things.. so I just gotta ask you folks here.

Ive got a Radeon x800 card, will that be sufficient to run PSU??

[_EiN_]

i'm leaning towards the 7600GT. sound really good. will i need to upgrade my power supply...

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 14:04, Mwabwetumba wrote:
I fail real good at computer spec. things.. so I just gotta ask you folks here.

Ive got a Radeon x800 card, will that be sufficient to run PSU??


That should run PSU just fine.



On 2006-08-07 14:14, _EiN_ wrote:
i'm leaning towards the 7600GT. sound really good. will i need to upgrade my power supply...




For most models of the 7600GT, it lists a 400W power supply. A few list 350W, but I'd still get at least a 400W.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-07 14:18 ]</font>

[Mwabwetumba]

Im happy now.

...

Yay.
Yeah!

[therealAERO]

All I know is that I can run PSU on the second to highest setting(need some frame skip) I don't need to run it on full. Even though it looks amazing at 60fps a second.

[Emrald]

All I want to do is play it with little errors...I'll go with low end graphics if i have to ^_^

[Fleece]

Without going into too much detail about Power Supplies, you may be able to run your new graphics cards on a standard 300W Power supply you see its not really about the wattage when it comes to powering graphics cards its all about the ampage on your top 12v rail, i recently bought an ATi x700 and its running on an AMD 2800+ with 1 gig of ram and thats on a 230W power supply with only 14 amps on the 12V rail and its having no problems.

I probably just confused a lot of you. Heres a better way to put it, you put stuff in pc and it doesnt turn on, youve either broken your pc or your power supply doesnt have enough power to run that setup, if you take the part out you just inserted (reverting back to your old setup) and it switches on ok then you need a new power supply.


Simple.

[Fleece]

Oh and 5200's suck on everything Bar anything from 2003 and older. My laptop has one. Although it IS faster than a radeon 9200.

[Emrald]

Well....I'm running a verrrry shitty grpahics card...and my pc is back from 2002!

[VioletSkye]

Having a descent power supply is crucial to system health. True it may be able to run on a 300W or lower PSU, but it significantly taxes it and will kill it MUCH faster. Trust me, I've replaced many, many power supplies running cards that had a higher requirement. A 400W PSU should have plenty of ampage on it's 12 volt rail to run a 7600GT, especially the one I linked to, so ampage wouldn't even be a concern unless he decided to go with an SLI setup. On most OEM (off the shelf) systems, it pays to go ahead and upgrade the power supply also if you are wanting a descent graphics card. I wasn't able to find the specs on his particular Sony, but I would venture to guess it would be around the 250W-300W range for his PSU. You'll normally want at least 20-24 amps for a 7600GT, but the PSU I linked to will run it with no problems easily. If he has a 350W PSU with at least 18 amps then he will probably be fine, but if not, I'd definitely recommend an upgrade.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-07 17:52 ]</font>

[Fleece]

If the part is faulty your PC will still power up.....it wont boot but itll power.

[Kyuu]

I probably just confused a lot of you. Heres a better way to put it, you put stuff in pc and it doesnt turn on, youve either broken your pc or your power supply doesnt have enough power to run that setup, if you take the part out you just inserted (reverting back to your old setup) and it switches on ok then you need a new power supply.

Simple.

Or, the part you installed is conflicting and/or faulty.

[Fleece]

Yeah I'd agree with violet on the old 24 amp 12V+ rule unless of course you cant afford it or have no choice. If you have a dell and want a Power supply dont go out and buy any old thing it WILL damage your computer (stupid dell and their own brand power supplies,,,,)

Im off to bed. Night

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 17:52, Fleece wrote:
Yeah I'd agree with violet on the old 24 amp 12V+ rule unless of course you cant afford it or have no choice. If you have a dell and want a Power supply dont go out and buy any old thing it WILL damage your computer (stupid dell and their own brand power supplies,,,,)

Im off to bed. Night


Surprisingly enough, many of the newer highend models now use standard ATX power supplies. You will want to call Dell first and verify if your model uses a standard ATX though before replacing it. If it's proprietary, then you need to purchase an adapter.

frigging typos lol

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-08-07 18:03 ]</font>

[Fleece]

Before I go I was ordered by my boss to "Dispose" of any Propriety manufacturers equipment we got in lol.

[Emrald]

I have a sony Viao...So I don't know...2002 sucks...anyways....I have no clue what you guys said >><<....I just want to know if I could run PSU on a card that cost like 50$

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-07 18:04, Fleece wrote:
Before I go I was ordered by my boss to "Dispose" of any Propriety manufacturers equipment we got in lol.




Heh no doubt. I don't know how many Dell mobos you've looked at but some are pretty funky. Alot of them do not use the basic standoff/screw attachment to the case. They rest on a tray that slides into slots on the case and usually have one screw that helps hold it in place. If it needs to be replaced, then you are forced to order a new one from Dell (which is usually very over-priced.)



On 2006-08-07 18:06, coolcat33333 wrote:
I have a sony Viao...So I don't know...2002 sucks...anyways....I have no clue what you guys said >><<....I just want to know if I could run PSU on a card that cost like 50$


I think we covered this several times already http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[Emrald]

yeah but I'm confused.....Well...I'll wait untill we know more about how the game will run before i ask again

[Kyuu]

If you're going to upgrade your videocard, I myself really couldn't recommend going with anything less than a card such as this: GeForce 6600LE (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=324595). Saving up the extra $28 for that card would be much better than buying some FX5200 that can barely run PSU (if it can at all). Even the 6600 is at the bare-bottom of acceptable gaming cards, with only 8 pixel pipelines.

If you don't have the money to spend at least $100 on a new videocard, my advice would be to just wait until you save up more money, honestly. Not to mention, a new card won't do you too much good if the rest of your system is sub-par as well. Either splurge on a new system, or just pick up a PS2 for $100.


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[Fleece]

A 128MB 5200 will run PSU on low medium details, they arnt bad low end gaming cards if the rest of your system is fast.

I wont run any of that fancy bojangles such as post effects though lol, not without dying lol.

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[Kichi]

I know I have everything needed...except my videocard. All I know is I have a build in videocard...and my computer is an HP Pavilion a520n. So I need to know if that's enough.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-25 19:59, Kichi wrote:
I know I have everything needed...except my videocard. All I know is I have a build in videocard...and my computer is an HP Pavilion a520n. So I need to know if that's enough.


Not even close. Your integrated video will only allow up to 64MB of system RAM to be allocated to video. I know it says 64MB is the minimum, but I doubt they are referring to allocated system RAM. The default version comes with 512MB of RAM which is ok, but another 512MB would be a nice boost. Thankfully your motherboard at least has an 8X AGP slot so you can go that route and buy a dedicated AGP card. Any idea how much you $$$ you may be able to spend on an upgrade?



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[Kichi]

Um...I'm trying to stay under $100, but I'm willing to go higher if neccessary, within reason.

[VioletSkye]

The rest of your system is pretty decent (and you can always add more RAM later) so you may want to consider this:

Sapphire Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8X 256MB - $94.99 ($5.64 for shipping.) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102666)

That would easily handle PSU and would do well with other newer games as well.

[Kichi]

Hmmmm...Okay, thank you for the help, I really appreciate it. *Copies down the name of that card to a word document so he'll remember it.*

[VioletSkye]

Do keep in mind that you will need to use a molex power connector to use the power adapter for the card. The adapter is also a splitter, so that shouldn't be a problem.


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[Kichi]

Huh? What does that mean? *is not especially good with Hardware*



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[VioletSkye]

That is one of the 4 prong power connectors (molex):

http://smaterielpc.hollinae.com/images/tutos/sata/molex%20connect.jpg

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[Kichi]

I don't have one that looks like that...

*Has to get off for the night, but will be back on tomorrow*

EDIT: Actually still here for a little. And yeah, I don't think I have one like that...

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[Kyuu]

Unless you have a lot of harddrives and/or other extra things installed in your computer, it's unlikely you don't have a Molex connector free. Just follow the wires coming out of your power supply and you should find a few. Of course, I'm not familiar with Dells, so perhaps their power supplies only come with a tiny number of Molexes?

Another reason to avoid brand name computers like the plague. ~_~ They'll do anything to keep you from upgrading your computer yourself.

[VioletSkye]

Heh, he has an HP, not a Dell http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

But like some Dell models, there are a few models from different manufacturers (HP which includes Compaq, Gateway which includes eMachines, etc.) that do not have power supplies with spare connectors. Dells are by far the worst. As someone who subcontracts with Dell as a certified field tech (meaning I replace hardware for business and residential customers that have warranties) I work on various Dell models on a daily basis and I see more and more newer models with power supplies that only have enough power connectors for the components already installed. No spare molex connectors, no spare floppy connectors, no spare SATA connectors (although they all have at least two SATA ports on the mobo) no 6 prong videocard connectors, nothing extra. So if you want to add another drive (optical, harddrive, floppy etc.) Dell has to send out another power supply also with enough of the correct power connectors.

Now obviously that's not true of all models and most should have at least a spare molex or two, but it really is true that some don't. Pretty stupid way to do things, but hey that's Dell http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Forgot to mention that there are splitters you can buy that will also work. You don't want to have too many splits though.

Anyway, it shouldn't really matter as the X1600 I linked to has a splitter (adapter) that will allow you to split one of your molex connectors so you can provide power to the videocard and use your molex device (most likely to be an optical drive) at the same time.

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[kazuma56]

I'd just like to add that if your PC doesn't have an AGP 8x(4x....not too sure how it runs todays apps)/PCI-E slot you should stay clear of PSU PC and go PS2, because I DID run PSO:BB on a celeron that had a 5500 PCI graphics card and although it did preform well on medium settings, it still had a large frame reduction when massive enemies where on screen...basically any episode besides 1 ran below the capped FPS (30) and boss battles had screen lag because of the slowdown that occured.

[Kyuu]

Psh, HP, Dell, same thing. =P

Okay, not really... HP is even worse than Dell. More than one of my friends' parents had an HP. *shudder* Those were just ugh.

And yeah... if you don't have an AGP slot or PCIe, you shouldn't be running much beyond Solitaire or Minesweeper. If you can't afford a new computer, just get yourself a PS2.

[Earthsunderer]

As there is this thread, and I've got a new computer (cause my old one died, bah!) I might as well play it on the PC instead on the Playstation 2, as I planned before.
I'm totally so not experienced on PCs.
Therefore, is my new computer good enough to handle PSU? Or am I going to better play it on the PS 2?

It's written
Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.20 GHz
3.19 GHz, 1.00 Gb Ram

NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)

Is there anything more I need to add for you guys to properly evaluate if my computer will be able to handle it quite good or not?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[Oxidation]

Hello first time nuub poster http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif but yeah i have a question i was looking around all over for but couldnt find. Does anyone know how high of a resolution PSU supports? 1280x1024, 1600x1200? etc...

Thanks

[Kichi]

VioletSkye: I have a few 4 prong-type-thing-ed things coming from my power supply that are free...but they don't look like that as I said...they have 4 things that are like prongs with holes in them.

Kazuma: I indeed have an AGP 8x/4x slot.

[SSNX]

I'm getting a notebook and was wondering how the Geforce Go7400 and Go7600 would handle PSU?
(With Core Duo 1.66GHz, 1GB ram)



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[Emrald]

Bah I have no PCIe/AGP slot BUUUT i can't play it on ps2 cause parents won't let me! BAH

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-26 08:19, Kichi wrote:
VioletSkye: I have a few 4 prong-type-thing-ed things coming from my power supply that are free...but they don't look like that as I said...they have 4 things that are like prongs with holes in them.

Kazuma: I indeed have an AGP 8x/4x slot.


Heh yeah I was pretty tired when I posted that pic. I didn't realize it was showing the male end. What you have is exactly what you need http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Kichi]

Oh good. Thank you for your help, as I said, it's greatly appreciated.

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-26 06:21, Earthsunderer wrote:
As there is this thread, and I've got a new computer (cause my old one died, bah!) I might as well play it on the PC instead on the Playstation 2, as I planned before.
I'm totally so not experienced on PCs.
Therefore, is my new computer good enough to handle PSU? Or am I going to better play it on the PS 2?

It's written
Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.20 GHz
3.19 GHz, 1.00 Gb Ram

NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)

Is there anything more I need to add for you guys to properly evaluate if my computer will be able to handle it quite good or not?

Thanks in advance for any help.



Oops, missed the SE, it may be ok, but it might not run great in higher resolutions without turning effects way down.




On 2006-08-26 08:24, SSNX wrote:
I'm getting a notebook and was wondering how the Geforce Go7400 and Go7600 would handle PSU?
(With Core Duo 1.66GHz, 1GB ram)



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Should be just fine. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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[Fleece]

Sorry i read 6200 turbocache somewhere...


Lol Turbocache.......

[Emrald]

...Fleece...you amuse easily

[Kichi]

Okay, VioletSkye, I have a couple questions...
A) How would the card you pointed out to me be better than this one I found?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197

They seem to be roughly the same in terms of parameters... I notice a few specs are better...but what do those specs mean?

EDIT: or what about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102410

B) Does what type of RAM my computer takes affect what type of videocard I have to get?



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[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-26 10:48, Kichi wrote:
Okay, VioletSkye, I have a couple questions...
A) How would the card you pointed out to me be better than this one I found?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197

They seem to be roughly the same in terms of parameters... I notice a few specs are better...but what do those specs mean?

B) Does what type of RAM my computer takes affect what type of videocard I have to get?


The FX5500 may handle PSU ok but it won't run nearly as well as the X1600 will. Differences would be:
1. Core clock speeds 270MHz vs. 500MHz.
2. Type of VRAM, the FX5500 uses DDR, the X1600 uses GDDR2 which doubles the memory clock speed from 400MHz to 800MHz.
3. X1600 Supports OpenGL 2.0.
4. X1600 supports HDR (High Dynamic Range) and Shader Model 3.
5. FX5500 has 4 pixel pipelines, X1600Pro has 12

When I'm a little more awake and coherent I'll see if I missed anything lol.


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[Kichi]

Okay...

I actually found another one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102410 , which I edited into my last post...

Now My friend says this ones is a really good idea... but I want another opinion jus in case. He agrees with you on the original two, but says this third one is probably the best choice.

Also, if you could tell me, I'd really like to know exactly what I'd be witnessing that's better.

And you didn't tell me the answer to my second quetion...I need to know if The RAM itself will affect what Video card I need.

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[VioletSkye]

That's not a bad budget card at all. It should handle PSU well. If you are looking mainly for a card for PSU and aren't concerned about future games, then that would be a decent way to go http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

On PSU I can't really say what you would be missing as I have never played the PC version (I was only able to do character creation) so I have no point of reference as far as how effects look and the overall quality of effects. Visually the X1600 would allow for a higher resolution with effects turned up higher and better framerates at identical settings. It also supports newer technologies like SM3.0 OpenGL 2.0, HDR etc., etc. but that really only matters if the game utilizes those features in the first place.

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[Kichi]

Okay. Yeah, that sounds about right for me then.

[Oxidation]

I might be able to answer that last one from Kichi, i have some experience building systems and recently just built a new one for myself.

Ok Kichi it looks like he recommended a SAPPHIRE 100148L Radeon X1600pro which is as follows:
(faster is generally better)
Core clock speed - 500MHz
Memory Clock speed - 800Mhz
Without getting into too much detail about technical specs like pipes, shaders, etc thats this one in a nutshell

The other card eVGA 256-A8-N313-LX Geforce FX5500 is also a 256MB card but not necessarily the same just because its a 256MB card, lets look at the specs like above
Core clock- 270Mhz
Memory Clock - 400Mhz
As with before, not getting too much into pipes, shaders, etc thats this one in a nutshell


Like i said above there is other differences which would affect frames per second or maximum resolution without running choppy. If i was you i would save up a few extra pennies and get the Radeon X1600pro recommended by VioletSkye. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[drakkula]

my stuff is:

1.73Ghz
512ram
NVIDIA GeForce6400 - 128MB
DVD Driver

Am I able to play PSU?

Thanks guys!

[Oxidation]

looks like i was too slow to post! but violetskye put up a very nice explanation http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Kichi]

Ah, thank you Oxi. That actually helped a good deal with understanding what was going on. As I said, I'm not good with hardware. So I need to know what things mean in terms of what I'd actually notice while playing. Could you tell me about the third card I mentioned?

[VioletSkye]

A good break down of important factors to consider would be:

1. Clock Speed of GPU (also referred to as core clock.)
2. Memory clock speed.
3. Type of VRAM - DDR vs. GDDR2 vs. GDDR3 (with most highend cards using GDDR3.)
4. Amount of VRAM - how much video RAM the card has to store textures, etc.
5. Feature support - what video and game features/technologies does the card support.
6. Pixel Pipelines - amount of pipelines the GPU has to pass along an executed series of instructions for stuff like applying textures and transformations (transparency, deformation, reflections etc.) The more pipelines a card has the more info it can pass along within a given amount of time allowing for a faster rendering time.
7. Memory Interface - the connection between the GPU and the memory. lower and midrange cards usually have a 128-bit interface whereas high end cards have 256-bit. The wider the connection (higher bit) the faster the GPU can process it's data.
8. Bus Interface - PCI vs. AGP vs. PCI-Express (which is by far the fastest.) This is dependant upon what the motherboard supports.

[Oxidation]

Ok the other card mentioned the 9600pro is similiar to the EVGA. WHen it comes to pc's its usually more=better, faster=better. So take the specs of the 9600pro
Core clock 400MHz
Memory Clock 466MHz

As with violetskye's post he stated that more pixel pipelines=better (very true)

Radeon9600pro pixel pipelines
PixelPipelines 4

RadeonX1600pro
PixelPipelines 12

As i haven't played PSU just yet i cannot judge how it would handle either card, however since i have played my fair share of pc games and built multiple machines. I don't want to give you any hopes or incorrect info as to what resolution and amount of detail you could enable with each card.

Perhaps someone else could give a reference point on what system they used and what resolution they played on the beta http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (sorry if i may have missed it on another post, im new here)

PS. The type of ram you have in your pc doesn't have anything to do with the video card also. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif (maybe a little but you wouldnt need to worry about it)

Hope i answered as much as possible?

[Arrow203]

yeah Drakkula you'll be able to play PSU with lowered GFX, i am currently upgrading to a gig of ram, my system is 2.8Ghz 768 (atm next week will be a gig) 128MB Radeon X300 SE GFX card, i know it will play PSU because i played the closed beta http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif and it ran pretty well.

[Kichi]

Ah. Okay...all my questions have been answered. Thank you very much, both of you.

[Oxidation]

Right on, good luck and hope to see you when i get my copy in october(hopefully) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Inspektahdek]

On 2006-08-25 19:59, Kichi wrote:
I know I have everything needed...except my videocard. All I know is I have a build in videocard...and my computer is an HP Pavilion a520n. So I need to know if that's enough.



Is it 64mb or 128mb? If 64mb you prob need a definite upgrade, unless you're running shit on low end all the way mostly. It also depends on your CPU and ram mostly


repost that shit with a more in depth description

[Inspektahdek]

Just trying to RECONFIRM my system; I'm pretty damn sure I can flow in PSU without a hitch. Anyways here are my speccies:


Alienware LAPTOP 51m

3.4 Ghz Pentium 4/w HyperThread technology processor
1 GIG RAM
128MB ATI RADEON MOBILITY including latest drivers 6.8 Catalyst
60 GIG HD
2 DVD/CD/DVD+R/DVD-R/DVD+RW Drivers, one external one internal
Windows XP PRO with Service pack 2, plus SP3 beta (3rd party)


I think I should be good but I would like a couple of extra opinions if you don't mind. I'm pretty sure I'm gold I'm running PSOBB on all high like a champ.



thankya!

-inspektahdek

[VioletSkye]

You didn't mention if the ATI Mobility was dedicated or just a chipset.

Also which model is it? There is an M5550, M5750 and M7700.


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[drakkula]

I used to play WOW fine, but do u guys think if i upgraded my ram memory to 1.5giga i would be able to play PSU at its full graphic config?

my laptop is:

1.73Ghz
512ram
NVIDIA GeForce6400 - 128MB
DVD Driver

Thanks again




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[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-26 14:44, drakkula wrote:
I used to play WOW fine, but do u guys think if i upgraded my ram memory to 1.5giga i would be able to play PSU at its full graphic config?

my laptop is:

1.73Ghz
512ram
NVIDIA GeForce6400 - 128MB
DVD Driver

Thanks again




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: drakkula on 2006-08-26 14:47 ]</font>

The Go 6400 should be ok I would think. I probably wouldn't recommend anything much lower than that though, at least until people can play and give us a better idea of how it performs on their systems. All of this is purely speculative though. I wish more beta testers would post their specs with how well the Beta ran on their system.

[Kyuu]

The clock speed of your CPU doesn't mean much by itself without knowing which CPU it is. Is it an Athlon XP, Athlon 64, Pentium 4, Core Duo 2? 1.73 Ghz is a relatively low clock speed if it's a P4 or Athlon XP (or something like a Centrino). While your graphics card is fine, your RAM is a tad low (anything under 1gig is usually considered low for gaming), and your CPU does handle some things so if it's slow your performance will suffer.

[Inspektahdek]

I think it's a 5500 or a 5750

The card is built in but removable, however Alienware lied to me and others when they said out Graphics card would be interchangable with a 256 chipset replace the 128mb which they stoll havent done nor care about helping with. Fuck Alienware, my notebooks are now dell bought only.

[drakkula]

ive got an intel centrino 1.73......

so u guys say i should go for more ram memory?......anyway, japanese are gonna play it first....lets see what they say=]

[vitius137]

Alright guys. Get ready to prepare n00b service because I'm an extreme noob looking for help (which I finally admit I need). I've got an ancient graphics card (ATI RADEON 9550) and I'm going to replace it soon. The question is, which is the best graphics card I can get for a fairly reasonable price?

What is the best motherboard/gfx card combo I can buy at a retail store? I heard that there are motherboards that can have 2 graphic cards (dual PCI slots or something, I'm not sure because my noobness clouds my judgement).

My choices are either to keep my AGP motherboard and get an expensive graphics card, get a PCI express motherboard with a less expensive graphics card or get a job and save up for a dual pci express slot motherboard and get 2 graphics cards (do you have to buy special ones or can they be 2 regular ones?)

Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated, I just want PSU to run properly on my PC.

PS. If anyone is interested in my current PC specs:

3.2GHz
1022 MB DDR RAM
MSI motherboard (AGP)

If anyone wants any other info just ask.

Thanks again.......in advance...



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[Kyuu]

You should be a bit more clear about what is a "reasonable" price to you. What's the price range you can afford?

Also, PCIe cards are not less expensive than AGP. Getting a new motherboard shouldn't be necessary to run PSU.

Finally, what kind of CPU is that? 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4? o_0

[vitius137]

I kinda got an alienware comp for a good price at "Canada store". It's been good to me so far. Anyway I'll inform you of the specifics:

first of all: reasonable price= around $299 give or take.

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.2GHz (2 CPUs)
(thought you might like to know) Power Box: 422 Watts

I think I'll wait for direct X 10 before getting the graphics card and I guess I'll keep the motherboard (if I can fix the onboard sound, I've been having problems with it recently)

EDIT: lol, lots of editing. Just wanna say I will most likely be buying a new fan aswell, if need be.


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[ShinMatsumoto]

Man, that POUNDS my computer...

I'll ask about mine as well. Minimal settings are FINE for the game, as long as I can play the damn game right I'll be good.

Pentium 4 1.7 gHz processor, unclocked. I have five heating fans in the computer so I can probably overclock it a bit. If I knew how.
256 MB ATI Radeon 9550 graphics card
1 GB DDR (I think) RAM

If you need any more specs, I can give them once I get to the machine. That's what I know.

What'll be the best I can do on the PC version? Since after playing Blue Burst, I'm reluctant to TOUCH the PS2 one since I have an older (first or second shipment) PS2.

[-Shimarisu-]

P4 3.2 gig
256 mb Geforce 6800GS
1 gig ram

E-BONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

[vitius137]

I have decided not to wait till directx 10 since it will be released along with windows vista.

[ethereal]

my computar wont be able to run it =/

well, il have to get it for ps2...

[Eclypse]

Wow I never realized so many people would have trouble running this game. The specs are quite meager when you compare it to other games that are currently out on the market.

[Kyuu]

If you can afford $299, you can get a very nice videocard.

I looked into whether the 7800 GS or the X800 (the nVidia and ATI solutions under $300, respectively) were better, and the results seemed to be mixed. The 7800 GS benchmarked better in 3D Mark, but in most games the X800 benchmarks better (though there are a few games that perform better under the 7800 GS). So, it's hard for me to say. Perhaps VioletSkye or someone else can have some insight.

In any case, I could only find a 7800 GS that used AGP on my usual site: here (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322757). In any case, it is certainly a very good card, and you won't be disappointed with it.

Probably someone else would be able to find even a 7900 or X1900 AGP for under $300. Nowadays, you certainly do have better options if you have a PCIe slot. AGP cards are getting harder to find.

[xenokai]

How well will mine run...

HP Pavilion a735w
2.1 GHZ AMD Athlon Xp 3000+ (not 64 bit)
1 gig RAM (2700)
256mb Nvidia Geforce FX5500
80 GIG hdd (55 gig free)
8x DVD+RW Drive

I know my GPU is kinda dated but ive played ffxi and guild wars with it just dont know how well itl run PSU.



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[Fleece]

On 2006-08-27 02:02, xenokai wrote:
How well will mine run...

HP Pavilion a735w
2.1 GHZ AMD Athlon Xp 3000+ (not 64 bit)
1 gig RAM (2700)
256mb Nvidia Geforce FX5500
80 GIG hdd (55 gig free)
8x DVD+RW Drive

I know my GPU is kinda dated but ive played ffxi and guild wars with it just dont know how well itl run PSU.



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Not a bad PC Sempron XP's are still good cpu's nowadays i've got a 2800+ in my backup PC i'd only recommend your card upgrading but thats not to say your fx 5500 wont run PSU itll go on about low to medium comparing it with other ps2 to pc ports. I'd personnally recommend my budget card of the year (especially for AGP 8x slots) The Radeon x1600 PRO with 512MB of GDDR2 if you want to upgrade. Its a nice card and cheap for what technology you get.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=407367

Edit : Fish is bad

IE - Worst Grammar EVER




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[xenokai]

not sure How much upgrade that card would be ill look into it. But my pc only has AGP 8x like that card. But im hoping to get a 12 pixel pipeline GPU

[Kyuu]

You want 16 pipelines unless you're on a very tight budget.

And that's a nice card that Fleece linked. Definitely a good buy. Hard to find good 512MB cards in AGP at that price.

[Eclypse]

If any of you are worried about whether or not you will be able to run PSU, I wouldn't worry because this game will not place a strain on your system any more than a game like City of Heroes, or Call of Duty will. The system requirements that they listed are only important for the CPU for the most part because pretty much any mid to mid-high graphics card will run this game seemlessly.

All you really need for this game is a card with at least 128MB onboard and at minimum a 250MHz clock which now a days you can overclock or flash your card bios into thinking it's another card without hindering performance as long as you have sufficient cooling.

[Eclypse]

On 2006-08-26 11:21, drakkula wrote:
my stuff is:

1.73Ghz
512ram
NVIDIA GeForce6400 - 128MB
DVD Driver

Am I able to play PSU?

Thanks guys!


Your computer will run PSU just fine. I would check the internet for the StarStorm drivers for your video card though, because they can help with some of the graphical hickups that you will experience from time to time. You might even want to up grade your memory to 1.5GB, but that depends on how many slots you have an if they are parity or not. Check sites like newegg.com or pricewatch.com. I love both of those sites because you can get things for the dirt.

[DesDes]

my computer is :

P4 3.0 Ghz
998 RAM
Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family 128MB

only thing that worries me is the vid card

[Eclypse]

Yeah you seriously need to get another card, preferably something with Nvidia stamped on it. If this is the only game you will be playing on your PC I wouldn't break the bank, I would just get a card with 256MB that uses DDR2 and youll be set for a while.

This card here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814141015), will run your games just fine.

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[Kyuu]

ATI cards will run PSU just as well as nVidia cards, no need for brand bias. Most people agree that ATI has the better cards currently (something about image quality being better or whatever).

[Eclypse]

I don't like ATI cards and never will. I'm not most people and ATI cards definitely don't look better in my opinion. The last ATI card that I actually liked was the 9700 series and the AIW 9800, but since then I think they are all crap for the amount of money you spend on them.

I agree that PSU will run on an ATI but until they make Catalyst drivers more stable and make the anti-aliasing better, they will never beat Nvidia in my opinion.

[Jack]

The Catalyst drivers are already really good. It's just the Catalyst Control Centre which is for shit, and you can use ATI Tray Tools in place of that anyway.

[Pure-chan]

I <3 My ATI X1800XT. My experiences with nvidia haven't been bad, either. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif -- either way, I'll be waiting until dx10 drops before buying a new card.

Overall, my specs are:

AMD 4400+ dual core
2 GB RAM
ATI X1800XT 512MB


rawr.

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[StarWind09]

hmmm...
.... how would this run psu? will adding more ram help boost some of the graphic settings? I have a x600 256mb hypermemory on another computer with 1GB of ram and that seems to run much better than my x700pro... I thought it may have to do with the x700 having less ram on the system. thanks for any help.
system specs:
pentium d 2.66ghz
512mb ram
X700 pro Hybrid 128mb

[Kyuu]

Yes, adding more RAM will definitely help. You should upgrade to a gig if at all possible. Your processor is more than adequate, and your videocard is decent.

[Eclypse]

Your computer will more than handle the game. I would up the memory to 1GB or possibly a 1.5GB. The video card is more than enough if you grab some of the customer drivers off of guru3d.com. I personally go with Nvidia and nothing else, but your card will hold up just fine for this game.

[ulyoth]

AMD Athlon 64 3700+/ 2.2Ghz
1 gig of RAM, might be 2 next month (depends on how much i get on payday)
ATI Radeon X1600 256 Mb
Hand Built not so long ago and so far pretty much squeaky clean and running like a dream XD



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[Fleece]

On 2006-08-28 16:08, ulyoth wrote:
AMD Athlon 64 3700+/ 2.2Ghz
1 gig of RAM, might be 2 next month (depends on how much i get on payday)
ATI Radeon X1600 256 Mb
Hand Built not so long ago and so far pretty much squeaky clean and running like a dream XD



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Almost same setup as mine, except mines the size of a small shoebox and is slightly higher.

s939 san diego core'd 3800+
Gecube x1600XT 256 GDDR3 running at 600 MHZ core (gecubes come pre overclocked and with better cooling) and 1 GB of corsair xms.

[ShadowNeo]

1.8Ghz Pentium M 745
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB
1GB PC 2700 RAM
7200rpm Hitachi Travelstar HDD

Pretty sure I'll be able to run it, I usually play CSS on this with pretty much everything maxed, I've run WoW and BF:2 on it aswell on pretty nice settings with no problems. Running on the Catalyst drivers right now but might switch to Omega if there are any glitches. Anyone else tried the game with simmilar specs?

[SpikeWT1]

Amd Atholon X2 3800+
512MB DDR2 800
ATI Radeon X850XT

This is the video card. (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814102688) I Though it was good but no Shader model 3.



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[Eclypse]

I don't see why so many people are worried about whether or not PSU will run on there PC. The requirements are not that stingy.

[Kyuu]

On 2006-08-28 20:07, Eclypse wrote:

I don't see why so many people are worried about whether or not PSU will run on there PC. The requirements are not that stingy.
I think the word you're looking for is stringent. And while the requirements are not high up there, you have to realize that most the people on this forum are PSO vets. PSO was mostly a console game.

And, as can be demonstrated by some of the previous posts in this thread, a lot of people's PCs are quite outdated. Especially when it comes to videocards.

[Fleece]

Stingy is a word in my country, it means tight or cruel.

[Kyuu]

On 2006-08-28 23:44, Fleece wrote:

Stingy is a word in my country, it means tight or cruel.
Well, pardon if it's meaning is different in the UK, but my understanding of the word "stingy" is to mean cheap. As in, Mr. Smith is too stingy to buy toilet paper, so he uses his morning newspaper instead.

Stringent just seemed a much more appropriate word, and I presumed he got the two mixed up. Don't mean to start an argument or anything. o_0

[StarWind09]

so let me get this straight... uprgrading to 1GB of ram will help boost some of my graphic settings?

[Kyuu]

Yes.

[Phaze37]

i've changed my mind about getting the PS2 version, I want the PC version instead. However, I know next to nothing about computers. I basically gave my techie friend $500can and asked him to build me a computer that will run Half Life 2 well. This is what I got:

AMD Athlon 64 Processor
3000+
1.80 GHz, 512 MB of RAM

and my video card is a sapphire RADEON X700 PRO

Will this run PSU well? The key word here is well. Half Life 2 is very playable on this machine, but I was still kinda disapointed that it chugs at times. I don't care for graphics but performance is very important. I want a good framerate and minimal slowdown etc.

Also, if you need to see more specs on my computer to help me, just tell me where to find them.

[Legenden]

misspost, sry.



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[Otis_Kat]

Can I run PSU?

AMD Dual Core 5000+ Processor
2 Gigabytes of DDR2 RAM
2 nVidia Geforce 7900 GTX SLI Enabled



Sorry http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Phaze37]

I need a new graphics card? Weak. I guess I'm stuck playing the PS2 version.

[Celethalion]

I use a Mac, and don't care for the 360, so it's PS2 for me. I agree with Phaze though, I'd prefer a smooth running game without too many slowdowns over super fancy graphics. And from what I have heard, that's what the PS2 version should give us. (I can live with the slightly longer load times from the PS2 disc.)

[Kyuu]

On 2006-08-29 22:48, Phaze37 wrote:
I need a new graphics card? Weak. I guess I'm stuck playing the PS2 version.

No no no. The X700 is quite enough to run PSU well. The only upgrade you really need is to go up to a gig of RAM. It really does make a difference, as with 512MB, any hardware-intensive applications will eat up what little memory Windows isn't using in a hurry, and you'll start eating into your virtual memory.

Virtual memory is bad. Very very slow. You want to be using real RAM. And 512MB sticks of RAM are dirt cheap nowadays. As long as there's a free slot, you should have no problem just slapping another one in. However, make sure you ask your friend what kind and speed of RAM he got, to make sure it matches what's already in there. Unmatched RAM won't screw anything up per-se, but it has to be supported by the motherboard (obviously), it can cause instabilities sometimes, and if your stick of RAM is slower, it slows all the RAM down, including the other stick(s).

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[Phaze37]

Thanks for the advice Kyuu. I talked to my techie friend and he says I can pick up another stick of the same brand of RAM for $45. Unlike a new graphics card that's an update I can afford! So will this machine run PSU really well after I upgrade my RAM?

[Kyuu]

Well, let me put it this way. Here's my setup:

Athlon XP 3200+
1GB Low-latancy dual-channel RAM
PNY 6800GT 256MB

Now, I can run Oblivion at my preferred resolution (1280x1024) with all but a few of the settings at high (no HDR, but that's fine because I'm actually not really a big fan of it... looks too exaggerated to me). Your CPU is faster, once you upgrade your RAM you'll be at the same there (my RAM is probably faster, but that's not too big a thing), and, according to benchmarks, your graphics card is just a little bit under mine in most cases.

Now, as beautiful as PSU is, it's definitely not as hard on a system as Oblivion by a pretty good margin.

So, I think it's pretty safe to say your rig will run PSU just dandy.

[Phaze37]

Good to know. That RAM is almost the same price as the new memory card I'd need if I were to get PSU for PS2. Hmm, If you can run oblivion I can probably run oblivion... I just assumed that would be too much for this humble lil' PC. Thanks again for the advice, I'm ordering my new RAM as we speak.

[Kyuu]

Glad to help.

Don't blame me if Oblivion doesn't run well, though, if you try it. Setups are always unique, and while, technically speaking, you should be able to run it almost as well as me (my graphics card is a tad better, and my memory faster... but your CPU is better), it's impossible to say for sure. ><

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[SabZero]

Oh, dear! Please tell me I can run PSU! I just bought a new graphics card this year (not the most recent model though. Cash is hard to earn).

Intel P4 1,4 GHz
768 RAM
Sapphire AGP ATI XT1600 Pro

[Kyuu]

The graphics card is good, but a 1.4GHz P4? That's a tad on the slow side, and doesn't even make the minimum requirements. I'd definitely recommend upgrading as high as your motherboard will support. Pentium 4's are very inexpensive nowadays. I dunno how much difference that'll make, as I have no clue how CPU-intensive PSU is. The RAM is fine.

Edit: On second thought, P4's aren't as cheap as I thought they'd be. It'll run you about $120 to upgrade to a 2.8GHz (I didn't see any slower than that at the site I checked). That's even assuming your motherboard can support it.

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[SabZero]

Thanks Kyuu. My motherboard (asus P4B) supports up to 2,4 GHz). I really wouldn't want to change the mainboard, since then it's new cpu and new ram -_-...

2,4GHz enough?

[Legenden]

Thanks Kyuu. My motherboard (asus P4B) supports up to 2,4 GHz). I really wouldn't want to change the mainboard, since then it's new cpu and new ram -_-...

2,4GHz enough?


If this is your MB http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4b.htm
You must be careful to get a Pentium4 made for the old Socket 478.
Think you should look for a used one as Socket 478 prosessors might be hard to get.

Also updating Bios might help it to support higher prosessor speeds.



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[SabZero]

Thanks again, but I think I'll just have to bite the sour apple and get a better mainboard. That means new RAM and graphics card (PCI-e blargh).

So that would be
ASUS P5GD2-VM mainboard
PentiumD 2,8 GHz (two times the cache)
512 RAM
256MB ATI X1600 XT GDDR

which would cost me about 400EUR. Do you think it's a good investment?


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[Legenden]

Don`t know much about newer Intel prosessors/Motherboards but you might want 1024MB ram, unsure about your old PowerSupply running DualCore and new PCIexpress Graphic card...

Think I would just look for a better socket 478 Prosessor if I was short on money.

[Foxfire15]

Looks ok. Might wanna look into bumping it up to 1GB of RAM, just to ensure that it runs smoothly. Also, yeah, the power supply might be a bit weak. If you're a bit tight on cash though, go with the CPU upgrade.

[Fleece]

On 2006-08-30 04:33, SabZero wrote:
Thanks Kyuu. My motherboard (asus P4B) supports up to 2,4 GHz). I really wouldn't want to change the mainboard, since then it's new cpu and new ram -_-...

2,4GHz enough?



Hey!!!! i just bought a Northwood 2.4 ghz with 400 FSB a couple of months ago brand new. theyre hard to find but theyre very good processors. theres a couple here and there on ebay, i picked one up for 65 pounds.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-P4-2-4-512-400-Skt-478-CPU-Northwood_W0QQitemZ150025686333QQihZ005QQcategoryZ 14293QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ShadowDragon28]

Planning on getting the DELL 400 XPS:

SYSTEM COMPONENTS:

Pentium® D Processor 820 with Dual Core Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB)

Operating System: Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition

Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz

Video Card: 256MB nVidia GeForce 7900 GS

Hard Drive: 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ 8MB cache

Anybody here know if this should run PSU PC smoothly?

[VioletSkye]

On 2006-08-30 14:23, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
Planning on getting the DELL 400 XPS:

SYSTEM COMPONENTS:

Pentium® D Processor 820 with Dual Core Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB)

Operating System: Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition

Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz

Video Card: 256MB nVidia GeForce 7900 GS

Hard Drive: 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ 8MB cache

Anybody here know if this should run PSU PC smoothly?


Should run PSU like a champ http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[ShadowDragon28]

Cool, for $1,190 i should hope so.

Now I just need to find out what Wi-fi thingy i need for the PC to access my uncle's Broadband Wireless connection that's in another room.

It's an external broadand modem ,with a wireless router decked on top of it.
I don't know if a need a Wireless Card, Bridge, Network adapter or what.... Any suggestions,especially for fast online functionality?

[Fleece]

Dell XPS's have built in wifi if its the laptop, if its the tower (5 am cba looking) youll have to buy a usb dongle, a pci wifi card or a pci to pcmcia converter and use a pcmcia wireless card.

My Ideq 330p has wireless built into the motherboard, now hows that for a desktop PC.

Uhmmm yeah his WAP might be WEP encrypted, if it is then Hack it or Just ask him for the key.

[MaximusLight]

Since PSU is out now any of the importers getting PSU for the computer and what are the specs.?

Also VioletSkye you siad you were going to test how a bear minimum computer/laptop works, are you waiting for the North American Version?

[ShadowDragon28]

I'll bne getting the XPS 400 desktop tower. So which is best/fastest for gaming? A pci wifi card, usb dongle or ?

[SabZero]

On 2006-08-30 12:52, Fleece wrote:
Hey!!!! i just bought a Northwood 2.4 ghz with 400 FSB a couple of months ago brand new. theyre hard to find but theyre very good processors. theres a couple here and there on ebay, i picked one up for 65 pounds.


Hurrah! I hope the seller ships to Portugal. Thank you very much!

[edhangup]

Sorry in advance to ask but I am not familiar with laptop gaming system.

I am buying a new laptop next week to majorly play PSU, and I have limit down my choice to these last 2 HP laptops. Both Laptops have:
T2400 (1.83GHz)
1.5GB DDR2 533
100GB HD

HP Pavilion dv2000
14.1 WXGA
Nvidia GeForce Go 7200 with 128MB TurboCache Video Memory
2.4KG

HP Compaq nx8420
15.4 WXGA
ATI Radeon X1600 PCI Express
2.7KG

I know that ATI Radeon X1600 PCI Express is a great card for laptop, but there is only 1 bulky laptop Compaq nx8420 that has it. Personally I much prefer the Pavilion dv2000 for its look and style, so just wondering if its Geforce Go 7200 will run PSU or do I have to set GFX to its lowest in order to play smoothly? How big is the difference between the 2?

Thanks again!

[tikigod13]

Is there a list of which graphics cards are supported? I would like to know this info plz >.<

[Sessilu]

Any help with this crappy machine would be apreciated =).

CPU : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz

OS : Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

System Memory : 436896/785904 Kbytes

Hardisk Space : 8495 MBytes

Graphic Card : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200

Graphic Card Driver : nv4_disp.dll ( 6.14.10.6693)

Graphic Card Memory : 126592 / 126976 Kbytes

DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0

Display Mode : 1024 x 768 (60) 32bit

Sound Card : SoundMAX Digital Audio (smwdm.sys)

I'm so dead ain't I?

Edit: Forgot to tell I took it from a game that performs a PC analysis, so yeah X_X



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[Pitchshifter]

There's no hope for mine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif why I'm kinda stuck playing on ps2.

Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1808MHz
Display Card S3 Graphics ProSavage (AGP x4)
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 64.83GB
Display Card Memory 32MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.25
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive DVD
Sound Card Vinyl AC'97 Audio (WAVE)

LOL talk about a crappy system.

[StarWind09]

umm this may be a dumb question but what would happen if i put 2 sticks of ram in with different speeds? I tried looking up info for this stick of ram but it doesn't really give a clear answer, the part number is S80032VMCTW-75AA ddr 64x64 i think its 266mhz but i may be wrong which is why i want to know what will happen if i put it in...
thanks for any help

[Kyuu]

Putting in mismatched RAM generally is okay. But, all your memory will run at the speed of the slowest stick. For example, if you have two sticks of RAM running at 400MHz, and you decide to put in a third stick that runs at 266MHz, all three sticks will be forced down to 266MHz to accomodate the one slower stick.

Although it's always best to have your RAM running as quickly as possible... if you have less than 1GB currently, then I'd say go for it StarWind. Having 1GB will be a definite improvement even running at a slower speed (if that's, in fact, what you're going for).

[Sessilu]

Can anyone comment on mine's and probably pitchshifter's systems? O.o?

[Fleece]

On 2006-09-07 22:14, Pitchshifter wrote:
There's no hope for mine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif why I'm kinda stuck playing on ps2.

Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1808MHz
Display Card S3 Graphics ProSavage (AGP x4)
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 64.83GB
Display Card Memory 32MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.25
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive DVD
Sound Card Vinyl AC'97 Audio (WAVE)

LOL talk about a crappy system.



Buy a gfx Card Youll be alright, well a mid - high range card. The athlons run at 1800 MHZ but tend to be labbelled as 2400+ 2500+ 2800+ Etc as these are the comparative performance speeds they actually attain. Telling us the actual chip details would be better. 512 MB ram would be ok for PSU (its not hardcore)