Who else will Seed infect? - *SPOILERS*

[ShinMaruku]

My speculation:

We already know of Judgement Renvolt, whoelse will fall to this infection and break open the seal to Falz?
Will Ethan merge with somthing Dark and then make the Newman whores he got aroudn him sacrifice themselve for him in true Phantasy Star style.
Or will grantz disinfect Jean Grey Style?


EDIT: Respect the forum's spoiler policy.

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[Saner]

that brings up the question if the 'Virus' status effect people are wondering about is a temporary corruption of the mind.

does this mean Virus might cause players to be cpu controlled and attack their allies? that would be crazier than FF11's charm status. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

but offline storywise, SEED does have a great affect on the enviornments it corrupts over time. most likely on people too.

so ya who knows who else might fall victim to SEED in the story?
lol this reminds me a little of the Aparoids from Star Fox Assault, those creatures were kind of like a single entity in their minds.

so ya the source might be Dark Force after all. or something similiar. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


but notice that Mirei's prayer/whatever during the ceremony seemed to 'summon' SEED, so maybe something else is linked with SEED's origins, perhaps.

[ShinMaruku]

They could go real far with this... They can make Seed like Sublime (Great villanous infection all it done was crazy)
Verdandi, move away! If I kill the Seed, the gate to Falz will collapse!
I don't care what happnes to me, please just save Ethan!
This is just what I wnated, I cna resphape your worlds to have the traits that men so vaunted!WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

The hell?! he can't infect the spritial maiden's body becuase of her frequnce to grantz!
MY SACRED GENITALS

[Saner]

uhm... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

well with the NPCs we seen in the online mode, we now know some of the ones that survive the offline story. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Earthsunderer]

Who's to say that SEED corrupted Renvolt? Perhaps there is some kind of unknown ancient evil, also known as the dark force, that was sealed by the ancient civilisation, which Renvolt and some kind of other Cast are investigating.

Perhaps, SEED is only a random alien invader force that just happens to invade Gurhal system, and the Alliance Forces are trying to find a way to combat the intruders.

Then again, I do also believe that it's because of the SEED lifeforms.

I just wanted to point out that it might be coincidental, as we don't know the offline story for now.

[Saner]

so two possible separate and independant threats? maybe.

but I think SEED has a larger role than just invaders.

[ShinMaruku]

Sorry forgot the spolier tags... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
still
Is that why the relicss are built in such a way to prevent such infection?

I think an gamplay session with infected Ethan would rock!
Time for some true story discussion



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[Earthsunderer]

Of course. I mean, with a name that is spelled SEED, no good can come out of this. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

And there is surely a reason why they are called so (besides the fact that they "bloom" like flowers out of their Blume Capsule-thingies when they appear).

[Saner]

infected..... um if that happens, that would be like Ninja Gaiden when Ryu was cursed, right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

but if that one gets infected, that means someone else would have to be the main character to rescue them or something, cause I don't think anyone can resist mind control from such a powerful infection.

[DizzyDi]

Are you implying that SEED is an acronym?

[ShinMaruku]

SEED might damn well be an acronym
Sentient Evolving Ether Disease or somthing. Itr's obvious thta this thing will infect somthing.

[Saner]

okay so maybe the relics are a part of ancient defense weapons against SEED






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[ShinMaruku]

Me just hope this game is atleast 50 hours so I can eat it.

[Saner]

well ya some people might complete the offline story around 50 hours their first time and doing all the sidequests and without guides or cheats.

[ShinMaruku]

Online got to have some stuff too.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

just as long as Mirei, Karen, or Maya aren't killed, its cool.

[Saner]

Well since Maya is an NPC online, she definitely survives.

[DizzyDi]

On 2006-07-30 14:11, Saner wrote:
Well since Maya is an NPC online, she definitely survives.





Not exactly. The online NPC could just be an android made to act like Maya. Seeing as how EVERYNEWMAN gets her as an NPC. Besides, I don't think you should take online seriously as apart of the story.

[Saner]

no its true. the online is said to take place 3 years after the offline story. it is tied to the offline story.


and you will see that players can't use more than 1 Maya as a party member at once, even though all Newmans have her as a NPC.


and there are no androids in PSU. Casts are cyborgs this time since they are not immune to poison and can use techniques. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[tank1]

i dont remember ST ever saying Androids where now cyborgs.

[ShinMaruku]

A few fellows ar emost certainly gonna die...
As long as it is for story and pushes Ethan.. I'm for it.
Watch the Chief, that old Cyborg die!

[Saner]

On 2006-07-30 14:38, tank1 wrote:
i dont remember ST ever saying Androids where now cyborgs.



well Sonic Team won't call them androids or cyborgs. simply Casts.


but it's clear the PSU Casts are different from PSO Casts.

all the signs are there and they are more like cyborgs now than androids, which is cool! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[TheyCallMeJoe]

Well since I think people already get the idea that this contains spoilers, I wno't bother with the tags http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

1.) The Ruins in PSU are gonna be somehow tied to the ruins in PSO. Possibly the original of Dark Falz?
2.) Seed? You mean the one like in Metroid Prime 3 Corruptions and FFVII (or whatever the hell the Roman numerals are)

Yup.

[Kimil]

This all reminds me of Halo, there are a few plot parralels emerging

Halo / PSU
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The Flood / The SEED
Forerunners / What ever race made the Relics
Halos / Relics
Sentinals / Thos monsters in the Relics


-The Flood and The SEED are both infectius space aliens that attack.
-In both games, theres an extinct, advanced, ancient alien race that creates weapons to fight the infection.
-The weapon in Halo is the Halos, and in PSU its the Relics.
-In Both games, the weapons have gaurdians, the Sentinals for Halo and those mosnters from the beta in PSU.

[Kers]

I'm not shure the use of the Relics are to destroy all life as we know it, but those are interesting parralels. I wouldn't expect to see plots that are explicitly from Halo because a lot of stories share similar concepts but remain unique.

[ShinMaruku]

in PS seed's have been used to corupt as well.

[Ryudo]

It's almost guaranteed that Mirei, Karen, or both will die, wouldnt be surprised if they turned into some kinda SEED monster xD

[Saner]

aaah that would be scary.

don't tell me they are planning on trying to surpass classic tragedies like Nei or Alys. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

if that's the case, the story might turn out to be darker than expected. maybe even more so than PSII.

[Authenticate]

Heck yeah. Turn the corny "Look at me, look at me, I'm a pope with bewbies!" priest lady into a blood thirsty abomination. That would be shweet. Give her spikes and glowing eyes and a deep voice and make her be all like "I must release the children of Gurhal from their suffering." or some crap. Then as she dies, she doesn't get all wussy and become "good" again before she dies to give some lame speech, she frickin' starts blowing crap up and laughing all crazy like. HELL YES!

Or not. I'd find that enjoyable, but that would make too many people go "Ok, ST. What the funk?"

[Shiro_Ryuu]

that'd be pretty dumb IMO.

[Nai_Calus]

It can't possibly be more dark than PSII, since we know we can still travel to all three planets in the online mode. XP

Spoilers for PSII, not that by now most people would CARE...
Even the NPCs get their share of angsty early on with Darum and Tiem's tragic deaths, Nei dies along with her 'sister'... Then Palma is destroyed, between PSIII if you believe it and PSIV we learn that most of the survivors didn't make it, Rolf and his entire party can be presumed to have NOT survived their battle with the Earthmen, civilization and technology are lost to a point far below even PSI, 90% of the Algol system's population dies and a thousand years later virtually nothing has improved, and PSIV leaves us with the impression that it's probably just going to get worse, Profound Darkness defeated or no. So for sheer body count, tragedy and long-lasting repercussions, you'll have a damn hard time beating PSII for darkness of tone.

If there's a more depressing RPG than PSII, I don't want to know about it. >_<

Will I go to hell for WANTING Mirei and Karen to bite it? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Saner]

aaaaaah Mirei and Karen are innocent! I don't think they deserve to bite it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


but ya, PSII makes Hamlet and Macbeth look like Care Bears. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Authenticate]

On 2006-07-31 14:23, Shiroryuu wrote:
that'd be pretty dumb IMO.



... ur dum T-T

*goes to cry in a corner because an anonymous person doesn't like my stupid idea*

Seriously, though. I will love ST if they make Mirei die. Does that make me a bad person?

[ShinMaruku]

X-men got the PSII kill count out done.
Jean killed like a solar system them when in the fututre and abosobred the earth.

[DizzyDi]

I'd love to see PSU have a dark, more mature storyline than the happy-go-lucky animefare thing that it looks like they're going for.
So if a few beloved characters have to die, I'M ALL FOR IT!

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-31 17:24, ShinMaruku wrote:
X-men got the PSII kill count out done.
Jean killed like a solar system them when in the fututre and abosobred the earth.



Yeah,a lot of main characters die in X-Men 3:The Last Stand,although they do trick you because after the credits(MAJOR SPOILERS,SO BIG THAT YOU WILL ONLY LOOK IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH,PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,SHIVA,ALLAH,OR WHATEVER DIETY YOU WORSHIP,ONLY LOOK IF YOU HAVE SEEN X-MEN 3)
it shows a man sitting in a hospital bed and a woman comes up to him because he is waking up,probably because he was in a coma.The man says to the lady in a familiar voice "Karen?".She answers back "Charles?"(THE SPOILERS ARE OVER,NOW GET BACK TO WORK).

That was a little off topic,but it shows the movie of the Pheonix events wasn't as bad as you think.

I would like to see infections of the cute and cuddly characters like that one Android girl and maybe even Tonnio.That would be awesome!



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[hypersaxon]

On 2006-07-30 11:33, ShinMaruku wrote:

Will Ethan merge with somthing Dark and then make the Newman whores he got aroudn him sacrifice themselve for him in true Phantasy Star style.



I'd pay money to see that http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-31 19:24, hypersaxon wrote:


On 2006-07-30 11:33, ShinMaruku wrote:

Will Ethan merge with somthing Dark and then make the Newman whores he got aroudn him sacrifice themselve for him in true Phantasy Star style.



I'd pay money to see that http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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If it was in the game,then you would be paying to see,when you buy the game.

[Saner]

On 2006-07-31 17:24, ShinMaruku wrote:
X-men got the PSII kill count out done.
Jean killed like a solar system them when in the fututre and abosobred the earth.



lol well in Dragonball Z, Broly destroyed an entire galaxy at the beginning of the 8th movie.

so DBZ has X-Men outdone. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Vetsent]

On 2006-07-31 22:37, Saner wrote:


On 2006-07-31 17:24, ShinMaruku wrote:
X-men got the PSII kill count out done.
Jean killed like a solar system them when in the fututre and abosobred the earth.



lol well in Dragonball Z, Broly destroyed an entire galaxy at the beginning of the 8th movie.

so DBZ has X-Men outdone. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif





I haven't played PSII nor have I seen the 8th DBZ movie,but if in X-Men a lot of main characters die then that is more impacting than someone destroying some random galaxy.And from what I hear PSII also has some main character deaths so it comes back to just X-Men and PSII.

[Saner]

that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.

[Vetsent]

On 2006-08-01 11:31, Saner wrote:
that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.





But it was aimed to not matter as much as Piccolo or Vegeta dying from a long and strenuous battle,which hits some fans right in the spot.Would it feel cooler if those Trillions of people were brought back with Dragon Balls or if Piccolo or Vegeta were brought back with Dragon Balls.It does involve perspective too,but primarily it involves purpose and intent of the creators.

[ShinMaruku]

On 2006-07-31 22:37, Saner wrote:


On 2006-07-31 17:24, ShinMaruku wrote:
X-men got the PSII kill count out done.
Jean killed like a solar system them when in the fututre and abosobred the earth.



lol well in Dragonball Z, Broly destroyed an entire galaxy at the beginning of the 8th movie.

so DBZ has X-Men outdone. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif




Jean's daughter fought Galactus and roasted a good few galaxies..
DBZ can't outdo a woman who restarted the future!
They can't even kill Superman!



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[Saner]

okay okay so Marvel exaggerated their characters powers even further. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

Have a Whopper. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/burger.gif

[ShinMaruku]

Nah, I'd much rahter specilate on what Judgement Renvolt will do.

[ShinMaruku]

On 2006-08-01 12:04, ShinMaruku wrote:
Nah, I'd much rahter speculate on what Judgement Renvolt will do.

[Saner]

that form will probably act evil and get destroyed. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

naturally Renvolt won't destroy any planet or colony,
since they are still around in online.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2006-08-01 11:31, Saner wrote:
that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.





as Marilyn Manson said in one of his songs "the death of one is a tragedy, but the death of a million is just a statistic."

back to the topic, I have a feeling that Hyuga might get infected. I don't know, something about him.

[AngelLight]

....unless of course they take the route of StarOcean....in which case Online mode could be a virtual world and any number of planets (or the station itself) could be destroyed.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2006-08-01 11:31, Saner wrote:
that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.





as Marilyn Manson said in one of his songs "the death of one is a tragedy, but the death of a million is just a statistic."

back to the topic, I have a feeling that Hyuga might get infected. I don't know, something about him.

[AngelLight]

Someone got a lil click happy with the postings

[ShinMaruku]

On 2006-08-01 12:42, Shiroryuu wrote:


On 2006-08-01 11:31, Saner wrote:
that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.





as Marilyn Manson said in one of his songs "the death of one is a tragedy, but the death of a million is just a statistic."

back to the topic, I have a feeling that Hyuga might get infected. I don't know, something about him.


Stalin said that first get it right. As for Hyuga if he does I'm gonna laugh and point at Samurai Showdown

[Authenticate]

Marlyn Manson said it first. Didn't you know he went back in time and sang that song to Stalin? Don't correct people unless you know the facts, nub!

[Saner]

No way, online's story won't be a virtual simulation. that would be miserable.

I mean if it was a simulation, people would know that it was beforehand.

if it was a simulation whats the point of space travel, or spending money on items, or synthesizing, etc. etc. all to just get it done? ???

the online experience wouldn't really feel like you accomplished anything AT ALL if its story is treated that way. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/sprite.gif

[AngelLight]

Well Starocean was a single player RPG for sure, but yes they wrote it in the story where a planet (Expel) was wiped out by the main antagonists and some scientists were able to recreate a virtual world where you could wander around in from the recorded memories of the former occupents of Expel. The ppl inside "lived" as if nothing ever happened, with no prior knowledge of their doom. So it is possible......not saying it will be that way, but it has been done before in other Sci-Fi setting games.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2006-08-01 13:57, ShinMaruku wrote:


On 2006-08-01 12:42, Shiroryuu wrote:


On 2006-08-01 11:31, Saner wrote:
that's a matter of perspective.

just because X-Men and PSII are more zoomed in and centered around characters you relate to doesn't mean their downfalls are any more tragic than a galaxy of possibly trillions worth of lifeforms and intelligent lifeforms being wiped out. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

so tragedy isn't simply about the ones you 'know'.





as Marilyn Manson said in one of his songs "the death of one is a tragedy, but the death of a million is just a statistic."

back to the topic, I have a feeling that Hyuga might get infected. I don't know, something about him.


Stalin said that first get it right. As for Hyuga if he does I'm gonna laugh and point at Samurai Showdown



well, just by looking at him, he does look to be somewhat evil.

[ShinMaruku]

If he does fall I'm gonna make a black wearing character and name him Yuda.

[Jife_Jifremok]

On 2006-08-01 12:04, ShinMaruku wrote:


On 2006-08-01 12:04, ShinMaruku wrote:
Nah, I'd much rahter speculate on what Judgement Renvolt will do.





Just by looking at him in the Star Wars-inspired poster, I'd say Renvolt would fall apart and die after an epic and challenging battle worthy of the greatest final boss battles in gaming history, and possibly ask us what we wish to accomplish by destroying him. But, I'm just going by looks here. All I know for certain is that he's gonna get whomped something fierce.

[Saner]

lol 'whomped' ! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

this calls for a Whopper! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/burger.gif

but ya, Renvolt might be the final boss of offline story, and online might have a exclusive final boss.

but you know, what would the extra mode final boss be? maybe the same as the story mode. but than again, extra mode is partially an offline version of the online mode.

but would the extra mode take place 3 years after the main story...or perhaps somewhere in between. ah well, maybe not past or future, but simply timeless. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[ShinMaruku]

On 2006-08-03 01:11, Jife_Jifremok wrote:


On 2006-08-01 12:04, ShinMaruku wrote:


On 2006-08-01 12:04, ShinMaruku wrote:
Nah, I'd much rahter speculate on what Judgement Renvolt will do.





Just by looking at him in the Star Wars-inspired poster, I'd say Renvolt would fall apart and die after an epic and challenging battle worthy of the greatest final boss battles in gaming history, and possibly ask us what we wish to accomplish by destroying him. But, I'm just going by looks here. All I know for certain is that he's gonna get whomped something fierce.


I guess it will be Shin Ethan with his Ethan force.