I bet this has been anwsered but I need to know...First pers

[Emrald]

First thing I said when I saw it was "Okay....This had to be tacked on!" but I mean....How well does it actually work In game?...I've seen videos but that doesn't prove anything...How does it FEEL to work?

[Jonathan_F]

you can only stand still and shoot. you can't move in fps mode

[Saner]

first person targeting is for guns, you can't move while in first person aiming, you can simply move the targeting circle and fire your weapon. This will mostly help for hitting tall or flying enemies.

so it's really not first person shooter since you can't move while in that mode. It's another mode for aiming and firing guns.

[PandaMasterX4]

Does it work for all Firing weapons? And is it only the larger stronger ones that take PP?

[Saner]

all guns use up Photon Points no matter what, from what I seen. just like Force technique weapons.

you can switch between like 6 weapons anyways so ammo won't be much of a problem. and if it is, you can buy Photon Point restoring items.

[Emrald]

It's all confusing...then again so are photon arts in general and techs...but all will become clear after I play days of PSU playing all I can XP

[Saner]

well ya this game will be very overwhelming at first. So much to learn. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

but there' plenty of time to learn from it from the information we gather from the Japan release. We'll have over a month to study it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Emrald]

To long! I want PSU NOW....If they had an english option for the premire disk I'd import it right away!

[MissingAce]

I heard you can't use fps mode with the shotgun type weapons is that true?

[Emrald]

I heard that with shotguns and mechguns

[Saner]

hmmm either the final version will allow them to or maybe those types have a reasonable explanation.

[hypersaxon]

Yeah in the Weapons section it says that Mechguns and Shotguns have no subjective viewpoint mode. But who the hell uses a scope to fire a Shotgun anyway?

[Saner]

ya that's the thing! those kinds of weapons wouldn't have scopes. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Emrald]

Yeah and machine guns...their not known to be accurate if you just continuesly fire...unless you got strong arms XP

[_EiN_]

wait...shotguns. holy ****! its like my dreams are coming true. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif. now i am really amped for psu.

[Emrald]

Shotguns are the same as they were in PSO....

[_EiN_]

i never had a shotgun in pso. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

are the shotguns like handguns in psu? for example handgun, autogun, etc...



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[Kers]

On 2006-08-10 14:17, coolcat33333 wrote:
Shotguns are the same as they were in PSO....



I read something here on the forums that the shotgun has to be cocked after each shot. So, the rate of fire is slow.

Edit: And the projectiles fired increase with your skill with your shotgon.

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[_EiN_]

so its more realistic then. i like the change, it will most likely be stonger because of the slow rate of fire.

[Ether]

On 2006-08-10 14:22, _EiN_ wrote:
i never had a shotgun in pso. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Are you sure?

PSO Shotgun:
http://www.pso-world.com/images/items/BB-SRANK_SHOT-ACTION-1.jpg

PSU Shotgun:
http://www.pso-world.com/images/psu/news/05-12-06/05-12-06-07.jpg

[Kers]

Oh that reminds me, In PSU, I haven't found if more than one shotgun bullet can hit the same target within the same shot.

Was it something like, if the monster has more than one target ring on it, then yes, each bullet from one shot could hit one target ring, but not multiple hits on a single target ring.



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[_EiN_]

no, sorry for the confusion. a pump action shotgun...i think there was one on pso dont remember the name however....

Edit: i dunno if it worked like a rifle. maybe i could find a picture...



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[Kers]

Yeah, it was Yasminkov 7000V I think.

But Ether was explaining that the shot type weapons in PSO are now called shotguns for PSU.

[_EiN_]

ah i see. so sre weapons such as the 7000v an addition to the gun catagories in psu?

[Kers]

well..I haven't seen any rare weapons so there could or could not be another series of rare weapons like the Yasminkov series.

Anyways, view PSOW's weapon overview and other guides in case you haven't.

http://pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=2372



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[Keyeszx]

wat i want to know is ur char standing still while in first person or does he/she look which way ur aiming like if ur lokkin up does ur char look up to

[Emrald]

It would be in first person so you wouldn't be able to see your character...to find that out you'd have to wait til the game is out and ask someone to watch you and tell you what happens

[Arrow203]

Hmm that i'm not sure since i didn't see anyone doing that. On the other hand i was using First person to blast mobs away on my RAcast on the closed beta.

[Phaze37]

Here's what I'd like to know about subjective viewpoint: Does it make your shots perfectly accurate? For example, If my aim is good and my crosshairs are always on the enemy as I'm shooting him, will they automatically hit or does it still depend on my character's accuracy like it would if I was firing normally? If subjective viewpoint does make the shots hit automatically when properly aimed, I'll seriously consider using a RAbeast.

[Jife_Jifremok]

I very much doubt it, but I'd be jumping for joy if it were true.

What I want to know is, can you use subjective viewpoint to aim your spells? I doubt this too, but if true a Force could be a viable class for me.

[Phaze37]

Subjective viewpoint can't be used for techs. There aren't many techs that fire like a gun anyways. Just Foie, Barta, Gibarta, and Megid (I'm just thinking of PSO techniques here). It would be really interesting if Foie had that ability as a unique property, but I'm just thinking out loud.



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[Keyeszx]

so ur sayin no one looked at each other before in the beta

[Kyuu]

Unless I'm mistaken (which is always a possibility since I wasn't a beta tester), being in subjective viewpoint does not make your shots guaranteed hits. You'll still miss at your normal rate.

As has already been said, there'd be little point in having subjective viewpoint for technics, as only a few spells simply shoot forward in a straight line.

And probably most people in beta were too busy enjoying their short time with the game to worry about looking at each other while they were using the subjective viewpoint. I think one beta tester previously mentioned that there's no special animation or stance that will tell you someone is using the subjective viewpoint, but you can see them aiming their gun around. Not 100% sure on that though.

[Lyrise]

This is correct. No special stances or anything. You could even see shots fire up at a 89 degree angle perpendicular to you.

[Zarbolord]

Create a mechgun by using two handguns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Create a caduceus using light techs on a rod http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Create a Yamigarasu using a Megid J-Sword
Create an Asuka by making Foie Dual Sabers, guys, what potential!

[Shadowslayer]

On 2006-08-10 14:06, _EiN_ wrote:
wait...shotguns. holy ****! its like my dreams are coming true. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif. now i am really amped for psu.



Don't have an orgasm...lol, but Shotguns will be cool.

[hypersaxon]

Shotguns are an evolution of the Shot from PSO, basically they look more like real Shotguns but they function in the exact same way: by releasing a spread of bullets that can hit multiple targets. Pretty much how a real Shotgun works, except with Photon bullets.

Whether they have a Shotgun that fires real rounds, like the Yasminkov, is unknown. In fact, I don't even think any rare weapons have been discovered yet.