Final Boss! *SPOILER IMAGES* (click at your own risk)

[MrPOW]

Looks like someone has already beaten story mode and has posted screens of the final boss:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019465800.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019483600.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019592100.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083020013300.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083020035500.jpg

Also, some kind of rare:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019224500.jpg
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edit: to minimize the spoiling & bandwidth


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[mattdude]

WOW!!!!!!

[mattdude]

looks like Falz....(boss in PSO)

[jungleking45]

I KNEW IT!!! HE PULLED A SIGMA MAN!!! HE PULLED A SIGMA!!! man dark falz, can't we get a new villian for once

[mattdude]

lol I agree....I knew it too! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Ash1ey]

I for one dont want a new villain. Its PS tradition. He looks awesome too, cant wait

[MrPOW]

Can anyone translate what that item in the last picture is?

[Shadow_Wing]

Phantasy Star Tradition

PS1-4 Dark Force, PSX Dark Falz, what would PSU be if it wasn't Dark Force/Falz/something

[mattdude]

Yah, I agree with both of you, I mean to have a new villain, would be nice, but then the history of Phantasy Star, makes it awsome!

[Axios-]

Hmm, breathing in space? Not a problem to Super Ethan!

[EspioKaos]

On 2006-08-30 09:07, MrPOW wrote:
Can anyone translate what that item in the last picture is?


It's an extra slot unit called Whitill Wing.

EDIT: Oh, and the name of the boss is Dark Fakis.

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[Ash1ey]

On 2006-08-30 09:17, Skuda wrote:
Dark Fakis/Falkis?



That had me wondering a bit too

[Skuda]

Dark Fakis/Falkis?

[Skuda]

On 2006-08-30 08:56, MrPOW wrote:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019224500.jpg



hey, looks like we can swipe Magashi's swords. :3

[DraginHikari]

Dark Fakis eh... shoulda guessed. Looks way too much like Dark Force/Falz incarnation to be something else XD

[Tycho]

No 'l'.
I'm wondering if they were aiming for the Latin 'facis' (inflected form of verb 'facio'/'facere') though.

EDIT: Alternatively, maybe they meant for it to be 'Dark Fakir (http://www.peteykins.com/images/OldFaves2/images/fakir.jpg)'. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


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[Kers]

Freakin' sweet!

I'm guessing that monster on the platform in the second pic is Dark Fakis's tail..Rather get tail whipped then uh..yeah.. ...

[vitius137]

On 2006-08-30 09:08, Axios- wrote:
Hmm, breathing in space? Not a problem to Super Ethan!



well superman could do it ^_^

too bad ethan cant turn back time by flying around the world really fast.

[Numnuttz]

man this brings back memories when i first fought dark falz. good times, but does anyone know whats up with the hearts around ethan and karen? is it because they love each other or something or is that because of their weapons/armour?

[jungleking45]

well now that we know its dark falz, the whole story falls into place :3

[MrPOW]

...does anyone know whats up with the hearts around ethan and karen?

I'm only guessing but I figured it was just an effect whatever armor she has equipped.

[Skuda]

On 2006-08-30 09:36, jungleking45 wrote:
well now that we know its dark falz, the whole story falls into place :3




wasn't it kinda obvious it would be a dark force incarnation anyway?

[Ibuka]

O_O Uni Falz! Pwnge!

[Ifrian]

It was easy to predict! hehe
No ps game without falz >.< its no fun!!

[jungleking45]

On 2006-08-30 09:40, Skuda wrote:


On 2006-08-30 09:36, jungleking45 wrote:
well now that we know its dark falz, the whole story falls into place :3




wasn't it kinda obvious it would be a dark force incarnation anyway?



yeah, I was just hoping for, you know, maybe a different appearnace, you know how Olga Flow was an incarnation, but he looked different.

[Ifrian]

Btw guys , if i not wrong , i did understand that the online mode happens x years AFTER what happens on the Story mode , wich means falz will be allready beaten , right?

Then maybe there will be a "olga flowish" final boss for the network mode?

Or they will come with some lame excuse like : Ha!! i didint die for real and here i come again " thingy to make us battle falz?

Or there will not be a final boss at all since we are not "the heros" in this world?
i wonder.

[MrPOW]

yeah, I was just hoping for, you know, maybe a different appearnace, you know how Olga Flow was an incarnation, but he looked different.

Sonic Team: "Just wait until Phantasy Star Universe Episodes I & II!!!" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[jungleking45]

Those greedy little piggies :angry:

[DarkShadowX]

Either way, I wanna fight him now.

[Frezzo]

they said the offline mode is like 50 hours gameplay .... wonder how he made it LOL

[A2K]

On 2006-08-30 09:49, jungleking45 wrote:
yeah, I was just hoping for, you know, maybe a different appearnace, you know how Olga Flow was an incarnation, but he looked different.


Olga Flow is... something else, really. Can't really apply what it is to concept of "Dark Falz", really.

I'd say this incarnation did look pretty different, though. Somewhat of a bastard crossbreed between old-school Dark Force (yay for scary face with teeth) and PSO Episode 1's final form. Similar from PSO's, yet... evolved. I imagine all its attacks are different as well.



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[PJ]

For all of us that said, "It's gonna be Dark Falz, CLEARLY" to all those that said, "ST won't do that," you know, denying Dark Falz/Force/whatever being in every other game

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/PJ_SC/kecleoncalledit.png

[Legenden]

All other Phantasy Star Games had different Dark forces..
I have mixed feeling about him looking almost like he did in PSO, but from the 2nd picture it looks like he got a new attack and that is good...

The game was Prolly hacked though, noone could get to lvl 75 and finnish it this early, unless it`s someone from ST, lol..

Won`t be long utnil we see more videos on all the bosses/areas/Cutscenes, will be hard to resist watching all thoose spoilers until the game comes out here:)



Btw guys , if i not wrong , i did understand that the online mode happens x years AFTER what happens on the Story mode , wich means falz will be allready beaten , right?

Then maybe there will be a "olga flowish" final boss for the network mode?

Or they will come with some lame excuse like : Ha!! i didint die for real and here i come again " thingy to make us battle falz?

Or there will not be a final boss at all since we are not "the heros" in this world?
i wonder.


In PhantasyStar IV there where multiple DarkForces, no real reason to say there can`t be that now:)
In PS IV the exuse was never lame only awesome, Sure it will be that now too:)



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[EspioKaos]

Some people have had their copy of the game for the past week or so due to certain online retailers shipping it out a little too early. That's probably the case with this.

[MrPOW]

Yes, some people have had it for a few days now...

[A2K]

On 2006-08-30 11:18, Legenden wrote:
All other Phantasy Star Games had different Dark forces..


Except for Phantasy Star III, he had the same face every time, curiously enough.

Anyway, he doesn't really look all that much like any one form from PSO. The final form in PSO looked, well, like a flying Dimenian. Not nearly as much neon here in Dark Fakis (does that sound like "fake" to anyone else?), either.

[Legenden]

Hmm, If they had it a weak already, I guess it is legit.

The last 3rd. Generations of PS III was basically the same story but with different chars and minor plot twists, and it`s arguably the same Darkforce all 4 heroes meet.

Well I still think this one looks alot like last part of PSO boss, maybe not completely the same but still looks very like.


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[ShadowDragon28]

Kick @$$. Looks very nice. A bit of the first boss from R-Type look mixed into It's design.

I think a better transliteration for the final bosses name would be "Daruk Fahkis";

or

even better: " Dark Faux* "

the katakana combo of " Ki" and "Su" like "Ku" & "Su" placed after a small katana "a" or "e" is often how English words/prefixes/suffixes with "X",
"ax", or "ex" are written in Katana.

so like "axe" would be: a + Ku + su.
The name ""Huxley" would be in katakana: "Ha + U + ki + Su + Ri + I "


(* a Fax or Faux; as in a copy or a fake, a dupilicate).

So it seems "Seed" is a Duper, It used its powers to dupe Dark Falz I think....

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[Emrald]

jesus....looks like a cross between falz and olga

[A2K]

On 2006-08-30 11:35, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
Kick @$$. Looks very nice. A bit of the first boss from R-Type look mixed into It's design.

I think a better transliteration for the final bosses name would be "Daruk Fahkis";

or

even better: " Dark Faux* "

the katakana combo of " Ki" and "Su" like "Ku" & "Su" placed after a small katana "a" or "e" is often how English words/prefixes/suffixes with "X",
"ax", or "ex" are written in Katana.

so like "axe" would be: a + Ku + su.
The name ""Huxley" would be in katakana: "Ha + U + ki + Su + Ri + I "


(* a Fax or Faux; as in a copy or a fake, a dupilicate).

So it seems "Seed" is a Duper, It used its powers to dupe Dark Falz I think....


Isn't "faux" pronounced "foh" (long o), though, being of French origin? The "x" is silent. And I don't think I've ever seen "kisu" being translated as "x". The "i" isn't de-emphasized like a "u" would be if it were "ku", it, ah, sticks out too much, I think.

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[ShadowDragon28]

Yes.
Japanese tend to "phoneticize" and "Japanize" French words (like "ANIME " ; writting them literally so like Crossant(sp?) would still have "ant" sometimes (i.e. Ku+Ro+Sa+a+N+to ).

Fu + a + Ki + su could be "Fax" , "Fakes", or "Faux" using a westernized pronounciation instead of the authentic French pronounciation.

[A2K]

Ah, I see. In English, you could pronounce "croissant" with the "t" and it would still be correct, though, so I wouldn't say that was a good example. I understand your reasoning, though.

Speculation: If this isn't the REAL Dark Falz, and just a copy, is the real one is out there somewhere still?



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[ShadowDragon28]

Yep that's what I'm getting at. If it was Fa + U + Ku + Su it would/could read as
" Fu**s" , or " Fox ";
just a weird as Fa + Ru + Zu (in Dark Falz ) coud sometimes be transliterated/translated as "Phallus."

Whomever does the "translation" / transliteration of PSU might use "Daruk Fahkis" or "
maybe "Dark Fakes" or something.

They already messed up on Ethan's last name, which should be " Webber " or maybe "Waver", not "Waber" ugh http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

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[A2K]

Well, "phallus" can be thought of as a "protrusion", which, is precisely what it was in the original series, in relation to the Profound Darkness, anyway. I guess that's a bit of a stretch, though, heh.

[MUDGRIP]

*equips cure freeze*

[ShadowDragon28]

Seems "Dark Faux"/"Dark Fakes" is inspired by earlier incarnations of Dark Force/Falz, blending design aspects from these:

http://rpg-home.lunar-net.com/psiv-web/enemies/drkfrce3.gif

http://rpg-home.lunar-net.com/psii-web/enemies/drkforce.gif

(animated gifs by Wolfgang Landgraf via "Phantasy Star Homepage" )

and little bit from Ps III's...
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c9/182px-PstarIII_darkforce.jpg

and now:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/fepanda/TV2006083019483600.jpg

Still looks really cool though. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[PandaMasterX4]

More intention to only play the online now XD

[uhawww]

On 2006-08-30 12:33, MUDGRIP wrote:
*equips cure freeze*


lol. Post of the year.

[zandra117]

If Dark Fakis translates into english as Dark Faux, that would indicate that maybe it's an artificial version of Dark Falz. A military experiment possibly?

[Inazuma]

did you see his massive monster like cock? maybe "fucks" is correct...
very evil and scary looking boss 0_0

[OnnaWren]

You know how people get, trying to control something that has no intention of being controlled...

It cannot be controlled, it can only be contained.

[DrewSeleski]

yet the judge will still convict you

[Sinue_v2]

I don't think that's the FINAL, final boss. Remeber, there's still online mode to complete. Ethan's run-in with Dark Force may just be a prelude to things to come. Like when Alissa fought "Succubus" (Dark Falz) in her dream long before fighting the real thing under the goveners mansion.

I'd like some sort of confirmation - but it seems to me that offline mode will feature the main boss, while online mode will end up as the struggle against Dark Force/Falz. In PS history (PSO excluded), you've always been faced with some other enemy.. Leipard La Sheic, Mother Brain, Rulakir.. and even in PSIV - Dark Force was just a prelude to a greater hidden evil: The Profound Darkness. (Zio never got the chance to be a major enemy) In PSU - this enemy apperantly is Megashi, and we've seen screenshots of him merged with "SeeD" spawn into some sort of uber-enemy, presumably fought near the end. Like Dark Falz/Forces before him - something tells me that the one we're seeing in the screenshots is not his true form... and we'll be seeing more, and a more powerful version of him/the power behind him, at the end of online mode.


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[Foxix]

I am willing to be that its likely the online version may contain an epilouge of sorts along with a final confrontation to Proufound - Dark/Falks/Faux/Falz/Force or however the translation team decides to handle it.

[Sinue_v2]

It cannot be controlled, it can only be contained.

I honestly doubt weither or not he can be contained either... because even though he's often found in a Pandora's Box (PS1, PS2, PS3, PSO), he still seems to have an overt ability to control those around him. I think that the Pandora's Box is not so much a prison, but a sanctuary. In the past, Falz/Force has always had an agenda - except in PSIV where the seal was already so far weakened that the Profound Darkness could send multiple DF's into the coporeal world - and didn't need to fear the threat of them being destoryed before their tasks were completed. It was one last final bid for an escape from the dimensional seal.

Even in PSO Ep III, the attempt to try to "Contain" Dark Falz's "GERM" essence in the C.A.R.Ds was growing increasingly unstable, and only served to empower the Great Shadow.

Humanity cannot contain Dark Falz. Only a greater power, like the Great Light, can do that. Humanity can only attept, and fail - ultimately to Falz's benefit.

[Pacpunk]

On 2006-08-30 09:23, DraginHikari wrote:
Dark Fakis eh... shoulda guessed. Looks way too much like Dark Force/Falz incarnation to be something else XD



im guess ing that but WAIT WHAT IF THEY MIRGED INTO ONE TO MAKE SOMEKIND OF SUPEN EVIL MEGA VILLAN. oh FRIKIN SWEET!

[zandra117]

On 2006-08-30 15:56, Pacpunk wrote:


On 2006-08-30 09:23, DraginHikari wrote:
Dark Fakis eh... shoulda guessed. Looks way too much like Dark Force/Falz incarnation to be something else XD



im guess ing that but WAIT WHAT IF THEY MIRGED INTO ONE TO MAKE SOMEKIND OF SUPEN EVIL MEGA VILLAN. oh FRIKIN SWEET!


What are you talking about? Dark Falz and Dark Force are the same thing just two different ways of spelling his name. Falz is the palmalatin word for force. Palmalatin is a language used in the old PS games.

[Foxix]

I believe he is talking about Faux and Force. Not only that but all the Dark Forces are all different. The name is the same but they are not the same beast.

[Para]

lol

Got Dark Falz/Force?
For some reason Im not surprised...

If Dark Force is eternal... might as well label this battle as Dark False.

[Alisha]

thats awesome i hope they have some psu tribute bosses too.it might also be cool to fight something along the lines of big shadow/amplum umbla in the online mode instead of falz.



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[phunk]

So where does this fall in with PSIV's Profound Darkness line?

Very nice find by the way, I'm even more excited for the single player.

[Sinue_v2]

So where does this fall in with PSIV's Profound Darkness line?

It doesn't. PSO, PSU, and PS all have segregated storylines which do not interconnect with each other. When we mention similarities between the DF's of each series - it's in the context of how the game is structured and designed.

[vitius137]

Has there been a single game made by Sonic Team that doesn't have a final battle/level in space? (not counting billy hatcher >.>)

[Adamisk]

.....................Sonic Adventure 1? I dunno......just throwing crap out there.

[vitius137]

oh right... that one didn't have a space level. It's just so common in their games @_@

[LiqourSiCC]

maybe when they said that its 50hours of offline gameplay they meant that its going to be normal, hard, very hard, and ultimate[that is if they still use that rutine]

[Kimil]

Hey! Karen Survives! yay

[PJ]

On 2006-08-30 18:05, vitius137 wrote:
Has there been a single game made by Sonic Team that doesn't have a final battle/level in space? (not counting billy hatcher >.>)



PSO Episode 1?
PSO Episode 2?
PSO Episode 3?
PSO Episode 4?

I dunno, I think Sonic Adventure 2 is the ONLY game that does have them in space other than this

[ShinMaruku]

Dark Ballz indeed. I guess Karen gots the power of love thing or maybe Sonic Team becamse comepetent... nah couldn't be..

[Saiffy]

On 2006-08-30 18:44, Kimil wrote:
Hey! Karen Survives! yay


When did she die?

[ShadowDragon28]

Just Imagine that "Dark Faux"/"Dark Fakes" in PSU is really Jack Thompson, then unleash some of the ole' photon ultra violence on him.



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[JasonWFD]

On 2006-08-30 20:10, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
Just Imagine that "Dark Faux"/"Dark Fakes" in PSU is really Jack Thompson, then unleash some of the ole' photon ultra violence on him.



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/applaud

[vitius137]

On 2006-08-30 20:13, JasonWFD wrote:


On 2006-08-30 20:10, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
Just Imagine that "Dark Faux"/"Dark Fakes" in PSU is really Jack Thompson, then unleash some of the ole' photon ultra violence on him.



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/applaud



/aplaud the applauding

[ShinMaruku]

Nah it's this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM1WwH8lYaU

[Skuda]

Just so you guys know.. Faux is pronounced like "FO"...

<_<

geeze

[ShadowDragon28]

I know that's the authentic French pronounciation.

In California it's pronounced FOX News. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Like I said, in katakana the word "Faux" is not written as Fu + o ( for "Foh" ),

but literally as Fu + a + Ki + Su; thus romanized as Faux, similar to the latin " Fax " as
in a copy, fake, or dupilcate.

Which maybe be what ST intended; a copy of Dark Falz, i.e a "Dark Faux"/ or perhaps translitered as " Dark Fakes "....

[Kay0s]

Wow...um, ShadowDragon, how long did it take you to figure that out? I just thought that over time Dark Force's name changed ever so slightly so that there was never much difference, you can still tell it's the same ass you're tryin' to kick. XD

And I cannot wait to send this version cryin' back to the drawin' board!

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[ShadowDragon28]

Um... yeah.
The condesending remark was not really neccessary.

Do you feel better now with that weak attempt to put me down?
Excuse me for posting mr. "godslayer "...

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[Gyser]

On 2006-08-30 21:28, Skuda wrote:
Just so you guys know.. Faux is pronounced like "FO"...



Dark FOnewm!?

[Undubbed]

I don't know. My impression was that it said "Dark Fox". Eh but what do I know...

[Russ2576]

Wow, someone's already blown through the game and beaten it? That's just sad.

Whatever happened to taking your time and enjoying a game?

[Saner]

hmmmm so this Dark Force only has one form?

PSO DF had like 3 (counting the countless floating things) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


but ya it's perfect that it takes place in space/sort of. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

but who knows maybe online will have extra forms on top of that? cause I remember in PSO you could only fight DF's 2 forms and I think to fight the 3rd you had to beat it in a harder mode or something.

[Skuda]

seriously guys.

Do you think sega is really going to name the final boss something like Dark Fox/fakes/faux/whatever?

It sounds very cheesy and lame. Almost retarded, even.

c'mon. It's common sense.

[PJ]

I dunno, I kinda like the sound of it.

I mean, I never played the original PS games, but I knew there was like a Dark Force and some other jazz. Didn't know much about them however http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

And now this PSU one being the next, "Dark Falz/Force," and being Dark Fake I think is pretty cool

All opinionated and jokes so far, no one's being ripped off http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Authenticate]

For the offline story, Dark Faux or whatever is a perfect name. It's a harbringer of things to come for the online story.

[Saner]

the name doesn't matter is already looks really cool.

and the final battle enviornment looks really epic too!

people say a lot of RPG final battles take place in 'outerspace' but its a more rare situation than people realize.

[zandra117]

I think Magashi was searching for something in the relics and found it, then he used it to create an artificial Dark Falz aka Dark Faux.
(Magashi went hunting for the parisitic gene flow lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif )

[Legenden]

seriously guys.

Do you think sega is really going to name the final boss something like Dark Fox/fakes/faux/whatever?

It sounds very cheesy and lame. Almost retarded, even.

c'mon. It's common sense.


Well they managed to call Noah (Lutz) a she in PS1, so they are capeable...
Seriously I think they will just translate it Dark Force or Falz.

[zandra117]

On 2006-08-31 12:31, Legenden wrote:


seriously guys.

Do you think sega is really going to name the final boss something like Dark Fox/fakes/faux/whatever?

It sounds very cheesy and lame. Almost retarded, even.

c'mon. It's common sense.


Well they managed to call Noah (Lutz) a she in PS1, so they are capeable...
Seriously I think they will just translate it Dark Force or Falz.


It's not Dark Falz though, Its an artificial version of him. Thats why hes called Dark Faux

[l3iohazard]

crazy shit

[A2K]

A few things:

I still think "Faux" is a bit of a stretch. Isn't "falsus" Latin for false, not "fax"?

And we don't KNOW that he's a fake. For all we know that could just be his real name. Isn't Palmalatin a fan creation? The only thing we DO know is that it's spelled different from "Falz"/"Farasu" or whatnot. It could be a typo, for all we know, right?

Why would WE get the real one, and Ethan get the fake one, anyway? That's assuming that we even get a different one!

Too many variables to speculate on...!



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[DarkShadowX]

Well the sooner we get either a better translation or explanation, or PSU for NA we'll find out, but either way I wanna kick his ass. And personally I want it to be Dark Falz, just because.

[zandra117]

We dont get to fight the real one later on, Dark Falz died a long time ago. Magashi found a remnant of Falz in the relics and used it to make an artificial clone.

[Undubbed]

Dark Fox sounds so dashing though >_>

Dark Faux sounds like it makes sense though. But I've always encountered english Katakana where it's pronounced just like the word it tries to copy, but hey yeah it could be a mistake on their part thinking it's supposed to be pronouned "Fox" when it's "Fo"("Fa"? I don't even know anymore!). I mean if you didn't know english very well I can see how one could make the mistake.

EDIT: Oops looked at the pic again and I seem to of forgot about he Ki in Fakisu. Definetly not Fox, my bad.



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[Nai_Calus]

(Romanization notes, forgot that non-English characters only work in sigs and thread titles: A doubled vowel, i.e., 'fookusu' is used to represent a mark used in katakana to extend a vowel sound which looks like a dash(-), the 'oo' in this case being a long 'o' sound, held a little longer than usual, not an 'u' sound. I romanize katakana in caps to differentiate it from hirigana. It isn't particularily necessary here, but I like to maintain my own consistency.)

The only example of a katakana compound for any kind of 'faux' I can find is FOOKUSU(FU-small O-dash thing-KU-SU) used for 'Faux' as a surname being an alternate spelling of 'Fawkes'. FAKISU(FU-small A-KI-SU) itself does not come up as anything. 'Fake' is FEIKU(FU-small E-I-KU). A pluralization is unlikely due to the nature of the Japanese language, but would likely be FEIKUSU(FU-small E-I-KU-SU). ’Facis' appears to be a valid conjugation of two different latin verbs but neither carries a meaning of 'fake': http://www.stoa.org/hopper/morph.jsp?l=facis&la=la&prior=bene
Further definition of 'fax', which seems slightly more likely: fax facis f. (1) [a torch] , esp. as carried at weddings and funerals. (2) [a firebrand]; of persons, [instigator]; of things, [stimulus]. (3) [light, flame], esp. of heavenly bodies; fig., [brilliance or passion].

KISU(KI-SU) is actually used for x in words, but doesn't seem to be common in actual *usage*, where I've seen far more uses of KUSU(KU-SU) for it. Even the letter 'x' is spelled that way - EKKUSU(E-small TSU-KU-SU.

Fakis, Falkis, Farkis all come up as last names searching Google, too lazy to look deeper.

DARUKU(DA-RU-KU), incidentally, is *not* a valid combination for 'Dark'. Dark is DAAKU(DA-dash thing-KU), the 'r' coming from the extension of the 'a' sound. DX Though what the hell, it wouldn't be the first time they've used questionable spelling.

(It's Alisa, damn it, Sinue. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif )

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[A2K]

It seems the forum doesn't like HTML entities. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

The third definition of facis seems somewhat appropriate. Is the sequence they use for "Dark" the one they've always used in Phantasy Star, or is it new to this particular entity in PSU?



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[Legenden]

zandra117 wrote:
We dont get to fight the real one later on, Dark Falz died a long time ago. Magashi found a remnant of Falz in the relics and used it to make an artificial clone.

That sounds to me like wild speculation, unless you know something I don`t.

Dark Force/Falz from other PS games including PSO has nothing to do with the PSU storyline, and even if it did, he`ll be back!, every 1000 years...

[Zarbolord]

Remember that the entity actually died. If it hadn't, we wouldn't have seen Rico's Soul, but the actual Falz soul comming out in PSO, atleast thatis the way I see it. also, the relic bit you just commented could have some truth, we don't know much about the ancient civilisation, so I think we'll need to play the game to know more (and for those who have it, try finding out what the relics are there for, they were there to guard falz, but why would they still activate?).

[Nai_Calus]

On 2006-09-01 00:50, A2K wrote:
It seems the forum doesn't like HTML entities. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

The third definition of facis seems somewhat appropriate. Is the sequence they use for "Dark" the one they've always used in Phantasy Star, or is it new to this particular entity in PSU?



Yeah, forgot about that. Stupid non-Japanese-supporting forum! DX I edited it and the text is romanized now.

The light one? Yeah. Dark Heavenly Light would seem appropriate enough for a Falz derivitive, especially since Falz came from the Profound Darkness, the opposite of the Great Light... It's a feminine form of the word too, apparently, which given the PD's final form seems appropriate... X3 So Dark Facis seems quite possible. (Incidentally, while not the exact word, I found a couple of Latin words containing the string 'facis' on Japanese websites spelled with the 'facis' part like the one used for this monster, further supporting the idea, though we have no way of knowing for sure, and given past translations of PS games we still may not know for sure after the English version comes out! XD)

And no, this 'DARUKU' business is new. Past versons have always used the correct 'DAAKU'. It's *technically* workable, if the 'u' in 'ru' is dropped in pronunciation, though regional accents might well render it 'Dalk', but as an actual formal usage it's not, the only accepted way of writing 'Dark' in katakana is the 'DAAKU'. As already noted, the extension of the 'a' sound is a common way of creating an 'r' in katakana, thus making the inclusion of an actual syllable beginning with 'r' unnecessary as long as the vowel is extended.

(Ahahaha, it should be DAREKU. Noooo, the Daleks are trying to take over Guhral! Quick, somebody build some stairs!)

[Sinue_v2]

It's Alisa, damn it, Sinue.

Or Arisa, depending on which version of the game you have. Bah.. I always mispell her name because of that damned ship from PSIII. [small](Guess it's kinda the same thing though if you're Japanese)[/quote]


Remember that the entity actually died. If it hadn't, we wouldn't have seen Rico's Soul, but the actual Falz soul comming out in PSO, atleast thatis the way I see it.

I don't see what PSO's Dark Falz have to do with PSU's final boss - aside from both sprininging from the same font of inspiration and following a similar pattern. PSU and PSO are not connected by storyline. They are completely seperate - just as PS and PSO were. The death of the Profound Darkness in PSIV had no bearing on Dark Falz's appearance in PSO. Why should Falz's death in PSO have any bearing on PSU?

And anyhow, you're incorrect. Falz didn't die when his and Rico's essences split. Falz actually kept regenerating over and over again - as did Olga Flow, until Falz and Flow finally met and their energies tore each other apart. Falz & Flow then became the Great Shadow which in turn is comprised of the "G.E.R.M" which C.A.R.D. technology is made from. Rico and Flowen's souls merged into a new body and conciousness, Endu. Dark Falz doesn't actually DIE until you defeat Umbra and destory the last of the Germ.

[NDkEwL]

Just felt like throwing this in since I have taken Latin for several years now, much to a lot of people's discontent (mine in question), but facis is also a conjugated form of facio, it is the second person singular and means You Make, or You Do, or just about anything, facio is a very versitle verb.

Regardless, You Make Dark(ness), in PS3, the actions of the first and second generations were what made Dark Force about to appear at all. Thus, the actions of Ethan caused Dark Fakis/Faux/whatever to appear (or Magashi to find the relic, to follow what i think i read back there) Or, if Dark Fakis truly is the final boss name in the online version also, its just comes back as a repercussion of Ethan (x years ago) and your actions.

Still, I patiently waiting to gladly hand this version of Dark Force his ass with whatever weapons I will have at the time...just waiting for US release...

[A2K]

Images of the first form. Definitely an old school vibe here, moreso than the PSO-ish form #2 anyway:

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psu20060909143328012bmppi4.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psu20060909143331013bmpep8.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psu20060909143336014bmpcr6.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psu20060909143349016bmpue8.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psu20060909143657020bmpxr8.jpg

Oh, and just to clarify, it's definitely a tail in his second form, not a... farasu. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I think, at the moment, I'm going to render his name "Dalk Facis".




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[Fleece]

On 2006-08-30 23:23, ShadowDragon28 wrote:

but literally as Fu + a + Ki + Su; thus romanized as Faux, similar to the latin " Fax " as
in a copy, fake, or dupilcate.




Dark Fax Ehhhhhhh???

http://www.wardenpark.co.uk/departments/bis/term2/pictures/fax.jpg



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[Tystys]

Lmao, Fleece.

Jesus man, it's nice to enforce tradition and all, but ANOTHER DARK FALZ?! COME ON!

[Emrald]

I personally like another dark falz....Keep him comming...remind others of your haratige so the nerds can shout at you when you ask "why is that name fimular?"