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Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:34 PM
Kimil found these pics, and going through them I found rares, here is one, I'll check the others... Thx Kimil.

http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3135.jpg

tyler2zelda
Sep 17, 2006, 03:34 PM
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooool.

Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:36 PM
Ok, I exaggerated, it's one rare, I'll try to look for others... I'll post the link...

http://psu.rdy.jp/all.html?1158523593

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http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3155.jpg

Rare???

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tank1
Sep 17, 2006, 03:37 PM
Thats a freaky looking Bow.

vitius137
Sep 17, 2006, 03:38 PM
4 star rares? interesting.

Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:41 PM
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3151.jpg
The real handgun, lol.

http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3141.jpg
Daggers of Seraphe look so cool.

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TheStoicOne
Sep 17, 2006, 03:43 PM
What the hell was that a hercules beetle

tihoa
Sep 17, 2006, 03:44 PM
the 4 star bow is a rare cause its a monster drop only item

tyler2zelda
Sep 17, 2006, 03:44 PM
OMG that's the gun that goes 'bap bap'. I saw it on YouTube ^_^

Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:46 PM
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3182.jpg

Dual Real handguns!

http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3172.jpg

Here's the bow again!

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tyler2zelda
Sep 17, 2006, 03:47 PM
Now when they fire, you hear 'bapbap bapbap'! LOLOL AWESOMENESS

Flamingo99
Sep 17, 2006, 03:48 PM
i'm not sure if this a rare sword or what... but it's cool anyway

http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4214.jpg

heres another sword
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4099.jpg

here's its stats if someone wants to translate. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4098.jpg

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TheStoicOne
Sep 17, 2006, 03:53 PM
Wait that bat bow, If its a enemy part drop, and you have to synth it then how did people get them if the bords aren't...Wait I'm confused how does that cast girl have one?

tihoa
Sep 17, 2006, 03:54 PM
its not a "enemy part" drop. its just a drop.

Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:56 PM
Check this out:

http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3232.jpg

I'll stop there, just look at the pics, hope I've helped you guys out http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Ether
Sep 17, 2006, 03:57 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=117985&forum=20&478

All of these have already been posted

Eclypse
Sep 17, 2006, 03:57 PM
Daggers of Seraphe are ridiculous and I HAVE to have a set when I get that game. Gotta love a 10-star set of daggers.

Phoenix_Black
Sep 17, 2006, 03:58 PM
It does... It's probibly a saber, because all swords are two-handed, if I'm not mistaken. I want one, too, lol. Looks funny how that little girl is holding them

Zarbolord
Sep 17, 2006, 03:59 PM
=> Ether
Ok, but I hadn't seen them, so it means that, or I haven't seen them, or pso-world needs to move on to making the damn guides (no pressure...).

Ffuzzy-Logik
Sep 17, 2006, 03:59 PM
Flamingo, that's a PM in that pic, and from what I have seen on the image-dump site, PMs seem to have unique-looking weapons. I may be wrong, however.

And the bow isn't exactly rare, since it isn't 7 stars.

Flamingo99
Sep 17, 2006, 03:59 PM
i'm really bored... heres another
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3961.jpg

tihoa
Sep 17, 2006, 04:00 PM
heres some swords i found in game.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8458/dualsve5.png
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8075/psu20060918054749003ca5.png


there's some 10 star rares that you can buy from shops in offline mode. i don't know if theyre there online. i wanna try raising personal machines offline first so i don't screw it up when i go online.

Sexy_Raine
Sep 17, 2006, 04:51 PM
Man, lookin' at these screens is making the wait harder. I can't'wait.

Blackwaltz-R
Sep 17, 2006, 06:58 PM
Why are we still using the term "rare"? "Unique" would be more appropriate. since thats the appeal of these "rares" in the first place, their appearance not their rarity.

Tystys
Sep 17, 2006, 07:00 PM
On 2006-09-17 14:00, tihoa wrote:
heres some swords i found in game.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8458/dualsve5.png
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8075/psu20060918054749003ca5.png


there's some 10 star rares that you can buy from shops in offline mode. i don't know if theyre there online. i wanna try raising personal machines offline first so i don't screw it up when i go online.



Nice, you hit the level cap in Singleplayer XD.

The first twin sabers look awesome.

Eclypse
Sep 17, 2006, 09:29 PM
I can't wait to get those Daggers of Sepathy, but I also know there will be much sicker rare Daggers for me to cop online also.

Tystys
Sep 17, 2006, 09:35 PM
Yeah, but we'll have to wait awhile until we can get the daggers. Not because of the levels, but because of the fact that "The Hive" won't even be out yet...we got to wait for it to be unlocked.

tihoa
Sep 17, 2006, 09:44 PM
its not that hard to hit lvl 100 in offline mode. you will be at least the high 50s if you do NONE of the stages you unlock after completing the area. if you do a few of them you'll be lvl 70 before you know it. just spend an hour or two making runs through the lvl 50+ areas and youll be 100 before you know it.

if i find something good in offline ill be sure to share it. but right now, most of the stuff you get in offline (including recipes) aren't that great. they're just stuff that you can buy later on in the game once you advance the story.

tihoa
Sep 18, 2006, 12:06 AM
Summoning It
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/121/psu20060918140033001fx6.png


Arming It
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8792/psu20060918140035002ls0.png


Blowing Stuff Up With It
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4346/psu20060918140038003hk6.png


Barrels Still Smoking
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6025/psu20060918140042004fp4.png

Eclypse
Sep 18, 2006, 12:11 AM
So is PSU going to be like PSO was in respect to doing things offline to open them online? Lord knows I hated running offline to open all the zones for the online game, so I am hoping and praying they aren't making us do that again because if so it looks I will be doing it form start to finish each and every time I play online.

Kimil
Sep 18, 2006, 12:16 AM
Wait, I'm Kimil, When did I find these pics, what? O.o

Sev
Sep 18, 2006, 12:23 AM
On 2006-09-17 22:11, Eclypse wrote:
So is PSU going to be like PSO was in respect to doing things offline to open them online? Lord knows I hated running offline to open all the zones for the online game, so I am hoping and praying they aren't making us do that again because if so it looks I will be doing it form start to finish each and every time I play online.



The things you do Offline have no effects on what you do Online. The content just has to be opened up by Sega, since they seem to be releasing parts of it at a time.

Zarbolord
Sep 18, 2006, 12:43 AM
=> Kimil
You gave the link when you set up your poll on popular race choice. I started looking at page 50 and saw the bow.

Ahzi_Dahaka
Sep 18, 2006, 03:16 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52947202@N00/

there's all of mine... anything not there is the bad stuff, IE: S-rank claws (they're just reskinned old ones ;__;)

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 18, 2006, 03:39 PM
Of all the badass early shots of rares seen this is my most favorite! though I am partial to swords which makes me biased. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4099.jpg


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Tystys
Sep 18, 2006, 07:54 PM
Yeah, I think is was Saner or someone who said that it looked like a Photon Fish hook....I never really looked at it, but I couldn't agree more lol.

ShadowDragon28
Sep 18, 2006, 10:34 PM
That cool sword is called " Suvaltus Sword ", what I want to know is, what shield unit is giving Ethan that kick-A$$ black aura?

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 06:23 AM
ah, so that's what the guy in the other thread will make once he has the wood. then until i see pics for something better that will be the weapon I want when PSU hits NA! WISH LIST!!!!



On 2006-09-18 20:34, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
That cool sword is called " Suvaltus Sword ", what I want to know is, what shield unit is giving Ethan that kick-A$$ black aura?

ayrista
Sep 19, 2006, 07:09 AM
On 2006-09-18 13:16, Ahzi_Dahaka wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52947202@N00/

there's all of mine... anything not there is the bad stuff, IE: S-rank claws (they're just reskinned old ones ;__;)


THat SRank fist that makes the bubbles, is it an Srank from a shop?

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 07:44 AM
I would never use fists, but even if i wanted to the bubbles would kill it for me, lol.

Jozon
Sep 19, 2006, 07:53 AM
I'd ignore the bubbles, those things are awesome, it just releases it's awesomeness in bubbles so it doesn't collapse the universe on it's own awesomeness.

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 08:13 AM
see, now i'm more scared of the bubbles than impressed and accepting, lol. i'd hate to be responsible for the collapse the universe. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

now a giant photon fish hook of death I can get behind... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 12:44 PM
Suvaltus Sword! hold on isnt that the sword of those big golem delsaber things (i dont read JP so i go by looks) in relics has, you know those big bad ass dudes with the sheilds. lvl 20 and still getting owned by them, wouldnt mind the sword tho.


Ahzi_Dahaka thats a SWEET collection u have there would love those daggers and the needle gun.



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Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 12:47 PM
yup, i think i mentioned it a few times last week. saw them on a video in the media stickey. the board and blade has to drop from them right (using the PSO logic that is)?



On 2006-09-19 10:44, darthplagis wrote:
Suvaltus Sword! hold on isnt that the sword of those big golem delsaber things (i dont read JP so i go by looks) in relics has, you know those big bad ass dudes with the sheilds. lvl 20 and still getting owned by them, wouldnt mind the sword tho.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 12:54 PM
=> Ahzi Dahaka
I love this one. It would be perfect for my HU/FOnewm
http://static.flickr.com/92/246779109_59d9ee6be9.jpg?v=0

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 01:09 PM
ok alpha-hunter, if thats the case id better get better at killing them LOL. i hope i can get one of those swords tho they look cool.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 01:12 PM
Hasn't anyone found rare wands and staffs yet? Being a FOrce lover I'll need some of those FOrce S-Ranks.

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:16 PM
Love the Seraph Daggers.

Shedding wings while you use em? Sounds awesome to me.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 01:17 PM
It's like the caduceus, I think I'm in love with angel weapons http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cool.gif

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:20 PM
Now, I just need a pair of bad ass Angel Wings, and I'll be set for my rare huntin', XD

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 01:20 PM
well i'm just guessing. you have the game and not I. i need you to kick their butts for me and see what they drop, lol. if you do find it please let us know so we can celebrate with you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



On 2006-09-19 11:09, darthplagis wrote:
ok alpha-hunter, if thats the case id better get better at killing them LOL. i hope i can get one of those swords tho they look cool.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 01:23 PM
Whitill Wing is a rare you'll need to hunt, so you'll get maybe more than one before finding them. I want that bat bow as my first rare find, I want to try it out.

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:25 PM
I have a question for the importers--

OK, now I know that each weapon has a rank, and you must be a certain class level before you can use that weapon....in terms of rares, something tells me that most rare weapons will be like S class stuff....now, because it is a rare, does it over ride the whole needing to be a right level thing in order to use certain weapons?

butzopower
Sep 19, 2006, 01:34 PM
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4356.jpg

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:42 PM
LOL, wow, what the hell do you do in your spare time XD

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 01:43 PM
nah its pretty simple PSO style, instead of picking @ the start HU RA FO you can change at will for 1000 mst (HU default) so HU has S rank mele so you can only equip S mele weps not S ranged weps or force weps. so each job specialises in a wep type and only specialist 'rare' weps can be used by that group. a ranger obviously can weild 'rare' rifles shots and lazers ect but only use mid ranged mele (that he's allowed) and lower FOR.

alpha-hunter, i really aint got a clue as to if they drop the goodies as i dont understand the JP text but if i find a board and item drop from one of those muthas i will be jumpiung for joy. LOL to my knowlege they have only dropped mst for me but heres hoping.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 01:46 PM
Side note: How much meseta do you have at the start? My cast will start as ranger, but I want him as a force. How much will it cost? 1000? 1250?

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:49 PM
That's good to hear, darth. I thought I was like going to find a rare at level 20 and not be able to equip it, http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 01:50 PM
=> Tystys
That wouls have been pretty sad, but you still need to get the lvls up. I think it has to do with the extra mode thing, but not sure.

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:54 PM
Blah, we'll have to wait and see I suppose.

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 01:54 PM
cant remember off hand how much cash i had (i made my extra dudes then went to bed, had 2 B up early so 4am was my cut off, LOL) but it wont take long to get cash, the 1st free mission on the blue planet, (im not remembering names today) you can get a few of an atomizer (i imagine its either a star or a scape doll 7/8 star) that sells for 5K do a few runs of this lvl (its pretty simple forest 1 style) and the cash flows freely.

also i found wepons rarely show up as drops and in boxes so gettin them is a bit tricky for me @ the mo, im on story so maybe thats why

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 01:58 PM
Yeah, from most of the videos I've seen, it's like people rarely find weapons anymore....they could prove to actually be a commodity this time around! O_O

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 02:00 PM
Just make them, the synth adds photon effect too, so it's cool. Also ,I'll use my weapons on my partner machinery, I want a good GH-20 for my FO/RAcast. I wonder if PMs use rares at their fullest combat lvl?

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 02:00 PM
hehe it would be nice, to actually have a rare wepon that aint duped and doesnt take forever to find but still holds its worth both for rep and value in game. as much as i hacked my older offline games in the past im glad this installment seems pretty secure.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 02:03 PM
Me too. I have a frined that said he had loads of rares on PSO. I found that all of them were hacked, hah! Mine aren't as I only played offline, two caduceus, 3 red saber,. I might find some rares if my luck comes up.

Alpha-Hunter
Sep 19, 2006, 02:07 PM
i started playing PSO PC again last month. level 60 now and all i have found is a double saber and a DB saber. that's the main reasons why hacking was so big in PSO. 1) because it was relatively easy to do and 2) because it took forever to get the rares you wanted on your own. and of course you had to have the right section ID. I never hacked or duped, but I did accept free items from someone (a chained saw and spread needle) and later found they were duped. shouldn't have taken them, but PSO had you pull your hair out if you tried to do it the right way...

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 02:09 PM
Not really, I mean, apart from the rare enemeis, I was ok. Reached lvl133 and had 3/4 of the rares. I hope PSU gives you nice pressies at the end of really hard missions!

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 02:12 PM
hehe it was mag cells that tipped the scales for me, then i figured how to do god mags and lavis blades then it all went from there, even when i was hacking i never give out hacks to ppl that didnt know what they were. and i never hid the fact i used them (i never actually coded online tho damn NOL, or use GOE). beside all that i always had a pure legit hunewearl that i never messed with (black costume, pink hair).

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 02:15 PM
So anyone have a force's s-rank?

Banert
Sep 19, 2006, 02:28 PM
God I hope rares are an actual commodity. My hunter in PSO had his bank full of rares, although 99% of them were weak 9 stars. I only played offline but i managed to run out of room to hold them all (of course most of them were doubles, or...dectouples (damn varistas), with a few exceptions and my trophy Orotiagito (Which i pray more then any weapon they bring back).

Oh, and are rares findable right off the bat? Thats the only thing I disliked about PSO, the fact that I had to wait 20 levels to find anything worthwhile.

Zarbolord
Sep 19, 2006, 02:32 PM
There are what seem to be "low lvl rares", like that bow I put the image of on the first page? It's a 4 star, which means it's not rare, but it's different to normal photon weapon, so in that case it could be considered rare.

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 02:57 PM
Well, what I've seen on most vids, Barnet, is that it is possible to find rares even in low ranking areas, but the most I've seen found in a C-Rank mission is like a 7-8 star item. I can tell their rares because they are the only items that are announced found on the right side of the screen

Itsuki
Sep 19, 2006, 03:12 PM
Scape dolls are found randomly in all boxes (8 star). Kubara wood goes the same (7 star). There are various others and these may not exactly be useful. 7+ star weapons are not found anywhere yet. And this doens't necessarily mean they're "Rare". So perhaps rather than using the term "Rare" weapons, we should use the term "Unique," or something similar.

Tystys
Sep 19, 2006, 03:14 PM
Speaking of a scape doll like....thing....I don't think this was answered in the other thread I asked it in...

If you bring your PM with you on a mission, is there a possibility when you die that the PM will be able to revive you?

butzopower
Sep 19, 2006, 03:15 PM
On 2006-09-19 11:42, Tystys wrote:
LOL, wow, what the hell do you do in your spare time XD



It was one of the first couple of pictures from the link on the first page.

Banert
Sep 19, 2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the answers Zarbolord and Tystys, greatly appreciated.

So they're uniques now eh? Would a unique 4 star bow then be any different than a common 4 star bow stat wise?

DiosGX
Sep 19, 2006, 03:47 PM
Generally when referring to rare/unique items, you'll cite the manufacturer as well. Anything by "Kubara", would be generally considered as a rare as their graphic appearances are unique as it's not made by any of the planet's manufacturers.

Those cyan knuckles posted earlier in the thread are ten stars and S-rank, but made by Tenora Works. Personally looking at them, I find it silly to consider it as not being rare. Just as I consider the bow dropped of Neudiaz Gargoyles to be a rare item, as it's made by Kubara. Just because it has a low or high star rating doesn't really mean much, it's all just semantics.

In regard to an earlier posted statement about rankings of weapons, the rank of it from C through S is going to effect what job can equip it. The reason for this is the high level, monsterously powerful S rank Kubara weapons won't be equippable by every job. See: Hunters with Spread Needles in version 2.

If you look online, you'll see a solid hunter only can equip B rank melee weapons currently. I'm assuming a player with a hybrid job of hunter/whatever is not going to get S rank weapon equipment abilities. If you want those über swords, you'll have to play as a solid ADV Hunter with no guns. The same applies all around.

Itsuki
Sep 19, 2006, 03:52 PM
Those cyan knuckles posted earlier in the thread are ten stars and S-rank, but made by Tenora Works. Personally looking at them, I find it silly to consider it as not being rare. The problem with this logic is that offline, those S-rank tenora knuckles can be bought at the store. Which pretty much completely defeats its "rarity". Online I'm sure this probably won't be the case, but it still begs the question of the accuracy of the word "rare".

Valkayree
Sep 19, 2006, 03:53 PM
On 2006-09-17 13:59, Flamingo99 wrote:
i'm really bored... heres another
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3961.jpg



Great someone found the J-Sword, lol =p

DiosGX
Sep 19, 2006, 04:03 PM
On 2006-09-19 13:52, Itsuki-chan wrote:
[quote]Online I'm sure this probably won't be the case, but it still begs the question of the accuracy of the word "rare".



It's all user-defined which makes it impossible to get one singular definition of it. Probably easier to just call the item by its name and leave it at that, I guess.

Though the basic descriptor of "I found a rare~" would still be accurate. *shrug*

Vetto
Sep 19, 2006, 04:09 PM
On 2006-09-19 13:53, Valkayree wrote:


On 2006-09-17 13:59, Flamingo99 wrote:
i'm really bored... heres another
http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up3961.jpg



Great someone found the J-Sword, lol =p



BURN IT! XO

darthplagis
Sep 19, 2006, 05:01 PM
yeah my analogy and sort of confusion over c-s rank is mainly what im peicing together from my non translation of JP LOL and what im finding out as i play.

i do agree however that with this installment (psu) that we need a more appropriate name for the unique/rare/special/manufacturer special issue wepons and gear out there as the star rating is a bit different to old style (i found 8 star item @ lvl1, it was a star atom/doll) and it seems that the old style RARE is now being replaced by the 'made by pete, from enemy bits and wood'

as for the Q on meseta when u start a game (extra) its 0