Grinding, and you!

[GaijinPUnch]

So far I've only had the balls the grind some 2000 meseta C-weapons (broke one) and only one measley B-rank weapon, and that was with a Grinder/B+5. The person doing the grinding tells you your odds, but not in exact percentages.

I've noticed that with a C-weapon (2000 meseta one in this case) w/ a C+5 or so Grinder, the lady told me "it was certain". Using +2, +3, or +4 on the 2nd grind, it was "chances are very high". I eventually broke one, even though she said my chances were "very high". I wound up making a B+5 today, so though WTF, and grinded a 5-star Sword (had 20% to dark too!). Anyways, it worked, but even with +5, I only got the "very high". I guess it could've broke.

Has anyone noticed an exact correlation w/ grinding? Are the +10's always certain? Have you fucked up a good weapon yet?

[Itsuki]

I only really grind 3 star weapons because I'm pretty poor. But generally about 3 higher will give you a high chance (c+4 on a +1, c+5 on a +2, etc), which results in a quite quite high % chance. I usually just use 2 higher though, but I've broke a +7 rifle with a c+9 grinder the other day, then a +5 rifle with a c+7 grinder the next day. I was so sad. Considering I'm still running around with 3 +7 weapons, the chances with using a 2 higher are probably pretty high (atleast for the lowest grinds).

Its also comparative. a +10 grinder will always be certain on a ungrinded weapon, but a +10 grinder might not be certain on a +8 weapon.

[peenk]

What you mean broke one?
... If grind fails you lose the weapon? or does it simply revert back to +0? ...

[FOnewearl-Lina]

You lose the weapon, and +10 can still end up breaking your weapon... O.o

[Itsuki]

If you fail, its gone, dust, never to be seen again.

But also, keep in mind that grinding has higher advantages in PSU. Just grinding a medium amount on low star weapons can give them as high as 1.5x their normal ATP.

[Ether]

For grinding, I like to get to +3 then stop, after that the odds of breaking seem to get a lot higher. Then again I only use C+3 or C+4 grinders, so that may have something to do with it.

With rifles grinding is very good, raises the atp about 30, so it only takes a few grinds to make a 3* rifle stronger than a 4*

With double handguns, grinding raises the atp by a measley 4 points, which is not worth the risk at all

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[mechatra]

If a grind fails the weapon is destroyed.

[Vetto]

o.o; -is now afraid to grind a rare weapon-

[vg_geek86]

Ill say...I prolly wont grind a rare until I find an equivelant I can fall back on if it fails...

[DizzyDi]

On 2006-09-23 14:56, Ether wrote:
For grinding, I like to get to +3 then stop, after that the odds of breaking seem to get a lot higher. Then again I only use C+3 or C+4 grinders, so that may have something to do with it.

With rifles grinding is very good, raises the atp about 30, so it only takes a few grinds to make a 3* rifle stronger than a 4*

With double handguns, grinding raises the atp by a measley 4 points, which is not worth the risk at all

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But then both shots have +4 attack, so its like getting +8 attack, right?

[peenk]

On 2006-09-23 14:55, Itsuki-chan wrote:
If you fail, its gone, dust, never to be seen again.


People on 5th avenue are outraged with this development that makes them be on par with grinding in psu.
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Edit: Do not use 'gay' in a derogatory way.

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[Tycho]

On 2006-09-23 14:39, GaijinPUnch wrote:
Has anyone noticed an exact correlation w/ grinding?
Apparently, you didn't keep up with the image BBS (http://psu.rdy.jp/src/up4611.jpg)? ;o

To translate these 'ranks' of grinding success odds into percentages or the like, someone would need to do some more testing I guess.

[Inazuma]

wow thanks a ton for that chart. its extremely helpful!

[A2K]

Huh, so if it fails, you don't even get an item called "hunk of useless sharp metal bits", eh? Unfortunate. I haven't grinded anything past 3 or 4, myself.

[AnamanaAU]

The question is, if grinding fails do you get anything usable out of it? Like materials or usable items? Or is it completely killed out of your item list?

[Spellbinder]

If you fail, its gone, dust, never to be seen again.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

no way, if you fail a grind then you lose the weapon? screw that, especially since I spended like 550000 on my super awesome S-rank weapon.

[GaijinPUnch]

Apparently, you didn't keep up with the image BBS? ;o

Nice -- you are my official hero of the moment!

EDIT: Only accurate up to 3-star weapons. Also, I thought a persons "luck" (the sparkling next to their name) affected rares. I wonder if it helps synthesizing too.

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