Maybe a bit too asian…

[wyzwun]

I was playing with the JP char creation … no matter what I do , my cast always ends up looking far to asian… I have no clue but I sure hope they give us some NA face selections… im not JP nor do I wish to RP as one... My RAmar didnt look asian...

[Foxix]

You do realize this game was made in Japan, right?

[-Break-]

Anime is made in Japan as well and the majority of anime characters don't look even slightly asian.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

I never really even see any of the faces looking too asian or whatever, more like a realistic anime-style. just try to pretend that he's not some asian dude.

[Souppy]

Casts look like asians? Hmmm... so long for the old RACast that looked like Optimus Prime then...

[AnamanaAU]

My cast looks very westernised in facial appearance. Maybe you're skipping facial structure editing?

[OsF]

On 2006-10-03 19:46, Souppy wrote:
Casts look like asians? Hmmm... so long for the old RACast that looked like Optimus Prime then...



my cast looked like something out of Gundam Rpg(can't remember the title).

Cute & Small + Gundam = wrong on one level, and that is the level of don'tdoingness.



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[wyzwun]

this is about as NA i can get my cast to look...

http://www.nulifeguild.com/nero1.jpg

Reason i bring this up, is never when i made my pso char back in the day did i ever feel out of place... Old Pstar characters did not look this asian... When i look at lutz or wren... ASIAN doesnt pop in to my mind...

I mean shit, Ps2 / PC release is NA ONRY... sure hope they let me make my toon look na...

[Sinue_v2]

Well, Gurhal is a completely seperate and alien solar system. Why not just consider the "Asian" style of the faces as a property of Gurhalian humans?

Does it really matter anyhow?

[darthplagis]

hey wyzwun thats a pretty nifty cast!! sephiroth prime!!!

you do know that you can alter the shape and structure of the face right??

[AnamanaAU]

By the looks, he did edit the facial structure.

[wyzwun]

yeah i can make the jaw line and eyes rounder... idk. there is just something wrong here. Sinue_v2 , I can get past it. But how are you going to market the game to NA's when i cant even make something that kinda sorta looks NA... Ill probably end up making the full robot cast... but since i was such a huge of fan of the old more cyborg look of pstar casts... this is just a let down FOR ME. Im not trying to flame, i know most people could care less....

I never played JP pso... did they adapt pso jp to fit the more NA features for its NA launch?...

[AnamanaAU]

No, they didn't. PSO always looked anime-esque. Some heads do look a bit NA, but there's a mix.

[wyzwun]

Also, sorry... maybe since i had to listen to JP players in FFXI refer to me as "Round Eye" for past 2+ years.... it kinda turns me off having to actually look like one...

[wyzwun]

but i dont see this mix in psu...

[-Break-]

I hadn't mentioned it before but now that it's been brought up, am I the only one who sees traces of Asian ethnicity in Ethan's facial features?

[darthplagis]

nah PSO was the same visuals the world over (actually bearnie was a weird mix of asian and western that looked a tad strange up close).

for casts i love the transformer/guyver look myself i just find it a bit wrong to have a cyborg look about them unless they are female casts then its all the better.

[wyzwun]

in regards to -Break- comments, i could care less what my offline toon looks like... ive played a ton of offline rpgs... its just my online avatar should have my features. I mean shit, im not even american (Armenian) so im not even asking for much.

[-Shimarisu-]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/doesntlooklikearobot.jpg

OMG I HAB YELLOW FEBER

[DizzyDi]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/MixMasterMark/Cairo-1.jpg

Asian?

[-Break-]

The fashion within the game is quite Asian in many aspects as well.

[RoninJoku]

This reminds me of FFX/ Kingdom hearts... Where in game Tidus/Sora look completely of european origins, while in FMV's they look incredibly Japanese. I guess the graphics teams didn't really communicate when they had to decide on an ethnicity for their characters...

On topic, I don't really think the faces look that asian by default. Nor do I think they look that western. But I can sympathize with gripes about facial structures all seeming too similar. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad we can edit facial proportions at all! But I just wish there was a bit more variety in the basic facial structure. As it stands all you can really change are they eyes, the jaw line and the texture thats mapped to the face. And two of those options have direct influence on each other, limiting complete customization.

But yea, I can't complain http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif (even though I just did).

[Fazeshot]

Lol im not even gonna bother with this thread because its obvious the OP is one of those people who arent easy to please and will always find SOMETHING to complain about.. this game follows an Anime style.. Hey if u want an NA style character just make a really fat guy. that would sum up and look like about 60% of the united states.. go play wow
- -
Edit: let's not call names.


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[wyzwun]

DizzyDi my gripe so far is the cast faces.... and wtf kind of hair is that... it aint corn rows....

[Fazeshot]

Im from north america.. and you know why they can market an ANIME style game to north americans? maybe because anime is really popular here.

Frankly i find your comments quite racist about not being able to make your character "honky" enough. If you dont like it go play wow... its a japanese game deal with it

[Kyuu]

On 2006-10-03 20:26, wyzwun wrote:

oh noes internet tough guy fazeshot is in the house, since you need to insult NA what the fuck race are you? jerk off.

heres to you staying in the x sand box, Fucktard.
Why would anyone insult "NAs"? I can't imagine where they get their material...

[-Break-]

On 2006-10-03 20:19, DizzyDi wrote:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/MixMasterMark/Cairo-1.jpg

Asian?


http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/736/736902/phantasy-star-universe-20061002072409147.jpg

Looks pretty Asian to me. Ethan's belt around one leg, the open stomach...
Maybe I just think it looks Asian because a lot the outfits look like those in animes.

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2006-10-03 20:24, wyzwun wrote:
DizzyDi my gripe so far is the cast faces....



He looks so azn i just want him 2 be my bishie *puts Gackt CD in stereo*

[Fazeshot]

u know.., the whole idea that asians are all racist against gaijin is completely stupid.. I played ffxi for 1 year and people always called japanese racist because in their search party comment they put Japanese only... umm well lets see... how does that make them racist? because they wish to group with someone that can speak their language. its not like japanese as a whole are racist there is racists in every culture and city / village / town on this planet.. grow up

[darthplagis]

well i havent seen any buck teeth and cross eyes so i can definatly say there wasnt enough americans on the team hehehehe, im only joking.......really.

[foamcup]

On 2006-10-03 20:12, wyzwun wrote:
in regards to -Break- comments, i could care less what my offline toon looks like... ive played a ton of offline rpgs... its just my online avatar should have my features. I mean shit, im not even american (Armenian) so im not even asking for much.



Uh, okay, you want the character to have your features, so you make it a 7-foot tall ugly robot? Right.

I bet now he'll attempt to curse me out too, lol.

[Fazeshot]

lets see here

Asian

http://www.estvideo.net/forum/upload/986-rikku1.jpg


American

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5351/826853sh7.jpg


I'de rather stick the the asian style of characters http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[-Break-]

Only about 1.5% of Japan's total legal resident population are foreign nationals. According to 2003 data from the Japanese government, the principal groups are as follows[2]:
Nationality Number Percentage
North and South Korea 613,791 32.1%
China 462,396 24.1%
Brazil 274,700 14.3%
Philippines 185,237 9.7%
Peru 53,649 2.8%
USA 47,836 2.5%
Others 277,421 14.5%
Total 1,915,030 100%

-From Wikipedia.


Japan isn't full of racists, the are simply a very isolationistic (not sure if that's actually a word) country. As I recall America forced them abandon their isolationist policy with the Treaty of Kanagawa in 1854.



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[Cloudkiller]

I can clearly see where the OP is coming from. But after playing CoH/CoV for 2 and a half years the change is pretty welcomed. (for the record, PSU could learn a thing or 2 from the CC in those games....well, all MMO's could)

[-Break-]

Anyway, City of Heroes/Villians owns all games in character customization, except pencil-and-paper D&D.

Nuff said.

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2006-10-03 20:38, Fazeshot wrote:
lets see here

*snippin dis shit*



This proves nothing, wow, you should go to the Tokyo Game Show some time, seriously.

Lots of fat, ugly, pockmarked dweebs there.

RACIAL PREFERENCES ITT, BABY I GOT NONE, I'LL HIT JUST ANY SHIT.

[wyzwun]

On 2006-10-03 20:38, foamcup wrote:


On 2006-10-03 20:12, wyzwun wrote:
in regards to -Break- comments, i could care less what my offline toon looks like... ive played a ton of offline rpgs... its just my online avatar should have my features. I mean shit, im not even american (Armenian) so im not even asking for much.



Uh, okay, you want the character to have your features, so you make it a 7-foot tall ugly robot? Right.

I bet now he'll attempt to curse me out too, lol.



Nah, you did not call me an "asshole" so we are cool ... for now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[DrewSeleski]

SEEN HER GO AFTER A DUCK I SWEAR NO LIE

[wyzwun]

shit has really broken down.... lol.

[foamcup]

Nah, you did not call me an "asshole" so we are cool ... for now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Cool, cool. Nothing against your cast personally, I just dislike the bulky bodies, ew.

Anyway, everyone should look this sexy.

http://static.flickr.com/121/257075132_3da195b9d5.jpg?v=0

Then we'll all be happy. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Saner]

the only thing that looks asian in the game is Neudaiz's town.

the character designs are anime-style but not asian looking.

[Numnuttz]

On 2006-10-03 20:38, Fazeshot wrote:
lets see here

Asian

http://www.estvideo.net/forum/upload/986-rikku1.jpg


American

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5351/826853sh7.jpg


I'de rather stick the the asian style of characters http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



Lol Fazeshot this post is the best one you put up so far. Off topic JP cosplay is way better than NA cosplay anyday.
Now anyways back to topic. yea this game is high in japanese culture. if your not really in to that i suggest not playing it. this is kind of odd to complain about though since in all Phantasy star games have had a high japanese influence in it.




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[happy_peanut]

you can move the face slider around...............I think all the options look good and not pure asian.....Look at FoamCups character n Rizens n Parn's rawr character there not asian looking

[Kakashi_Xero]

for one you cant get too asain, and for 2 where the hell do you think the game was made, 3 they dont look asain at all, 4 its more like a realistc 3d anime

[-Break-]

Plus, I'll feel extra smart if my character looks asian http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Kakashi_Xero]

hehe right

[Saner]

if they think that's asian looking, they never watching the, AKIRA, http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

now that art style/character designs are asian looking people.

[Losodo1976]

On 2006-10-03 19:39, wyzwun wrote:
I was playing with the JP char creation … no matter what I do , my cast always ends up looking far to asian… I have no clue but I sure hope they give us some NA face selections… im not JP nor do I wish to RP as one... My RAmar didnt look asian...



Are you f*cking jokin' me? Who cares...

[RamenEater]

But asian and vehicles...

[Niki]

On 2006-10-03 20:38, Fazeshot wrote:
lets see here

Asian

http://www.estvideo.net/forum/upload/986-rikku1.jpg


American

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5351/826853sh7.jpg


I'de rather stick the the asian style of characters http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



Since my other one was deleted...

I nominate this for post of the year.

[Ryogen]

How does that look asian man? When your characters eyes are slanted, then they are asian http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[EnSill]

Fazeshot, thank you soooo much for making me laugh all out loud in my office...
Now they know I'm not really working :'(


Hum... wyzwun, I really want to know what you call "asian".
Really.
All I see is anime characters in 3D.
I didn't say "cartoon" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
I can't help thinking that as your character looks like Gundam and not Transformers, you think he's asian.

The artwork is japanese, it's like all animes around.
When you look at... let's say Full Metal Alchemist characters, if they look like asian to you (while their eyes, hairs, faces, etc. are not like asians "in real life") then yeah, you're in trouble http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Your Cast (http://www.nulifeguild.com/nero1.jpg) is, objectively, not asian at all http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Btw, your question about whether they changed the faces of PSO characters for NA release was... hum... how can I say that... Was it a joke or something ? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2006-10-04 04:44, EnSill wrote:
The artwork is japanese, it's like all animes around.
When you look at... let's say Full Metal Alchemist characters, if they look like asian to you (while their eyes, hairs, faces, etc. are not like asians "in real life") then yeah, you're in trouble http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


well, Roy Mustang does look pretty asian if you ask me.

[-Shimarisu-]

The artwork is japanese, it's like all animes around.
When you look at... let's say Full Metal Alchemist characters, if they look like asian to you (while their eyes, hairs, faces, etc. are not like asians "in real life") then yeah, you're in trouble http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif




They have asian bone structure.

When you're an artist, you draw from life. You draw from classical training, even if you draw in a cartoony fashion. Years and years of growing up around people with the same conventions in their face is going to have an affect. It has an effect on western art AND on Japanese.

No getting away from it, anime characters MOSTLY have asian facial structure. Flattish face, small nose, high cheekbones, those faces look BLOODY asian to me because I can look past the eyes. When I see a japanese face it isn't just the eyes I notice, because I'm over saturated with Japanese looks, having lived in japan for 2 years.

FMA characters, they have that asian look.

Final Fantasy has it too.

PSU got it in spades, mostly visible when you turn your character to the side.

The artist is trying to draw a caucasian face but years and years of saturation practicing a certain facial bone structure and furthur, an art style both based on it and influenced on western cartoon art means that what they end up drawing looks like a mixed race person. Coupled with the Japanese ideal of male beauty being a damn sight different from that of the west (ie rather androgenous), what you get is something far removed from western games and THANK GOD cause I don't want to play as muscle bound jocks and big titted big assed blondes with tiny waists (ok the latter is nice is some cases.)

WHY DOES IT MATTER, if you don't like the art go play a non-japanese game.

Also he tweaked the facial proportions to get rid of it anyway, I can't see it in his char and I see japanese faces in EVERYTHING.

[Ryna]

I am locking this thread due to the flaming that is happening.