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PhilipVanLuke
Oct 10, 2006, 04:10 PM
Source: http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/news_beta.php

Scroll down, the beta is delayed >.<;

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Mod edit: fix title. Let's keep the disappoinments & angst lower. ;]

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Phalynx
Oct 10, 2006, 04:11 PM
Disapointing indeed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Okibi
Oct 10, 2006, 04:13 PM
though it was expected -something- would happen X) but ah well

EC_Subbie
Oct 10, 2006, 04:13 PM
Oh that's just great..

SoulsBlade
Oct 10, 2006, 04:13 PM
Very, very ,very uncool...

Ether
Oct 10, 2006, 04:15 PM
Ouch, thats gotta hurt. It shouldn't be delayed much though, I mean the game comes in 2 weeks



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Taichi
Oct 10, 2006, 04:15 PM
Well we should've known something like this was going to happen. I wouldn't expect any less from ST and SoA. I wonder how long the delay is going to be? A day or two I'm guessing, since we only have a week left after this before the retail release.

Kyubi
Oct 10, 2006, 04:15 PM
Noo!! *Cries* http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Okibi
Oct 10, 2006, 04:19 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:15, Ether wrote:
Ouch, thats gotta hurt. It shouldn't be delayed much though, I mean the game comes in than 2 weeks



yea X) its not gonna be a big wait..we waited this long...little more won't hurt http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif thats what the voice inside my head is saying *nodnod*

ProfessorZ
Oct 10, 2006, 04:19 PM
THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!

adamgnome104
Oct 10, 2006, 04:20 PM
The following imge sums up my feelings:
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8836/1156718298437qn0.jpg

FateOfTheArt
Oct 10, 2006, 04:20 PM
Here's hoping the delay doesn't affect the release of the game. I'm still bitter about how long MS sat on PSOX...

ANIMEniac
Oct 10, 2006, 04:23 PM
GGYYYYYYYAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!11one! How can this be! wow now i dont know what to do with myself 2morrow cause i had planed to just come home and go hardcore with PSU. -_-

1337Beeb
Oct 10, 2006, 04:23 PM
lmao, don't tell Saner, he'll kill himself.

I don't care, I have it on PC.

In Japanese :C

foamcup
Oct 10, 2006, 04:28 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:23, 1337Beeb wrote:
lmao, don't tell Saner, he'll kill himself.

I don't care, I have it on PC.

In Japanese :C



Me too, lol.

Oxidation
Oct 10, 2006, 04:29 PM
yeah i was really looking forward to it even though im gonna get it on PC instead of 360 cuz everyone i know will be on PC. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bash.gif Sigh....

daniel_drago
Oct 10, 2006, 04:29 PM
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late

1337Beeb
Oct 10, 2006, 04:35 PM
I think it's pretty lame how when it's out I'll be at school all day.

Oh well.

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krika
Oct 10, 2006, 04:36 PM
Dont worry guys , it will be out tomorrow.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 04:38 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:23, 1337Beeb wrote:
lmao, don't tell Saner, he'll kill himself.Yes http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/burger.gif, that'd http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/cake.gif truly be a http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/sprite.gif shame. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

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phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 04:39 PM
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Ensong
Oct 10, 2006, 04:40 PM
Ahhh this is terrible >< I have the 11th off, was so looking forward to downloading and playing it.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 04:42 PM
Just wait another couple of weeks, the game comes out the 24th.

You all are acting like there's nothing else in the world to do but play a beta of the game you've probably already bought two weeks before its release.

qoxolg
Oct 10, 2006, 04:47 PM
yay! -__- not that I care.. I hardly have any free time this week anyways

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 04:51 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



I ran it through my jargen translator and it blew a fuse.

What in god's name does that say?

Kent
Oct 10, 2006, 04:52 PM
Hm... Wednesday is my first day of class this quarter, and I've only one class then, too. :/

Oh well. I'll just get it whenever it's released on the Marketplace.

Ensong
Oct 10, 2006, 04:53 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:42, phunk wrote:
Just wait another couple of weeks, the game comes out the 24th.

You all are acting like there's nothing else in the world to do but play a beta of the game you've probably already bought two weeks before its release.




I was just going to love playing it so much http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

foamcup
Oct 10, 2006, 04:54 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:36, krika wrote:
Dont worry guys , it will be out tomorrow.



Dumbass, do you understand what the word 'delayed' means?

Valkayree
Oct 10, 2006, 04:54 PM
Eh maybe if we are lucky they will push it back to a week before release, so instead of that week lull where we are all going through PSU withdrawl since the beta ended, now we might be able to jump right in to the full version as the beta ends.

Valkayree
Oct 10, 2006, 04:57 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



Remember, punctuation is your friend, and most of the people on this board speak English, not gibberish... ^_^

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 05:01 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:38, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:


On 2006-10-10 14:23, 1337Beeb wrote:
lmao, don't tell Saner, he'll kill himself.Yes http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/burger.gif, that'd http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/cake.gif truly be a http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/sprite.gif shame. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

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Ineed it would http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif (I ran out of smilies. I am unversed in the ways of the emoticon)

Raikku
Oct 10, 2006, 05:01 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



huh?

qoxolg
Oct 10, 2006, 05:04 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:51, Zeta wrote:


On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in new ho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



I ran it through my jargen translator and it blew a fuse.

What in god's name does that say?



lol, let me try:

I am sorry, I am stupid, you guys are right about that. I am rolling on the floor because I still don't know how to walk. I visited a new whore, she sucks, but I am still sad.. I was not.. kgggg bzzzzzz BOOOOOM

my translator broke as wel.. sorry http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

xJermariox
Oct 10, 2006, 05:06 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



I think he said..

"lol im sorry, but yeah 1337beeb got it right lol. Sorry im rolling on the floor laughin. Anywho yeah it sucks, but me I wasnt going to be in tomorrow anyway not until late."

But yeah this is so lame... I had everything planning and junk for tomorrow oh well.



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lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 05:06 PM
this sucks...

SolKyoshiro
Oct 10, 2006, 05:07 PM
Umm....owned?

*Goes back to japanese version and stares at calendar*

RuinedReBirth
Oct 10, 2006, 05:10 PM
Hahaha. Sorry, but thats freakin' hilarious.

Wonder if we can still download it tomorrow, but gotta wait to play it.

theShoal
Oct 10, 2006, 05:12 PM
On 2006-10-10 14:29, daniel_drago wrote:
lol im sorry but yeh beebs gottit right lol sorry im rofl'in newho yeh it sucks but meh i wasnt gonna b in tomoz neway not til late



Huh...Think I had a stroke when I tried to read that. Anyways, I don't Saner has a gender. Go ask it.

ANIMEniac
Oct 10, 2006, 05:16 PM
i take it you can read Japanese Kyoshiro. cause if not you will be staring at that calender for a good bit...

Bleemo
Oct 10, 2006, 05:17 PM
Official word from Sega: PWNED

lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 05:17 PM
this is worse than blue balls.

Kindaichi
Oct 10, 2006, 05:18 PM
This comes as no surprise...they get us hyped and shoots us down.

qoxolg
Oct 10, 2006, 05:21 PM
There are plenty of other things you can do in your live besideds waiting for/playing PSU.. >_>

Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 05:24 PM
*gnaws other leg off in anticipation*

My other leg! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Kindaichi
Oct 10, 2006, 05:29 PM
On 2006-10-10 15:21, qoxolg wrote:
There are plenty of other things you can do in your live besideds waiting for/playing PSU.. >_>



Sadly its either hw or psu atm lol since im unable to do any physical activities because i ripped my acl while snowboaring......I'm bored.

Souppy
Oct 10, 2006, 05:38 PM
/sigh... I hope that the ''very soon after'' will be the 12th or 13th and I hope that they will let us play after the 18th.

-Crokar-
Oct 10, 2006, 05:39 PM
doesnt suprise me at all. i dont really care

Dark_Vyse
Oct 10, 2006, 05:39 PM
I feel you all with the dissapointment. After waiting a little over a year for it I hate to be cut off after looking forward to it being in my grasp in a day. ='(

Ecstasy
Oct 10, 2006, 05:40 PM
Sucks for you X360 players:( I don't have much to worry about though sense im going PC. Maybe you guys wil get it in a day our two:)

Tystys
Oct 10, 2006, 05:46 PM
Yeah.

SEGA is officially a bunch of fucking idiots. Why they would delay it I have no clue. They've done shit loads of beta testing and server stress testing already. What the fuck more info do they need?

Drizzit
Oct 10, 2006, 05:46 PM
I can see the US version of PSU being delayed past the 24th by the looks of this =-(

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 05:50 PM
How?

The final game is already done. They've probably delayed it because of something stupid like making too much available in the Beta.

I despise them.

Xx3of19xX
Oct 10, 2006, 05:50 PM
It could be something as simple as Microsoft certification taking a day longer. It's still coming, just chill.

Phaze37
Oct 10, 2006, 05:50 PM
Lame! I already made plans to spend the day at my friend's house who owns a 360. Oh well, I'll guess we'll just get baked and see Trailer Park Boys: The Movie instead.

StanleyPain
Oct 10, 2006, 05:51 PM
What a cock-tease. Sega, you bitch.

Numnuttz
Oct 10, 2006, 05:56 PM
great now more time to pine over nothing.....

Ezekiel06
Oct 10, 2006, 05:56 PM
On 2006-10-10 15:46, Tystys wrote:
Yeah.

SEGA is officially a bunch of fucking idiots...



Yeah, idiotic enough to come up with a title like phanasy star. Don't put SEGA on blast like that. We should be happy that a beta is even coming out. So us 360 owners will one of the many to play PSU befor anyone else. (Not counting the ones that own japanese copies)...

But it does suck that I won't be able to play tomarrow.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 05:58 PM
I personally think you should use the other topic.

MookMetal
Oct 10, 2006, 05:58 PM
Hey, was jsut wondering what everybody thought on the delay,I personally think its lame.

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Pikku
Oct 10, 2006, 05:59 PM
What do you mean delayed.... whats the date now....
...

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 06:00 PM
He surely means the haxbox360 beta that was delayed.

linkzone
Oct 10, 2006, 06:00 PM
Well on one side. Who cares cause the game is comming out in another few weeks. But after they announced the demo I got so exicted to play it that I screamed like a little girl when I heard about it. So now Im pissed that they pushed it back.

Authenticate
Oct 10, 2006, 06:00 PM
ZOMG! I HAB TO WIAT ANUDER DAY!11! /wrist Oh wait. I don't have a 360. SHIZ!

Good thing the Battlefield 2142 demo came out recently.

b3n
Oct 10, 2006, 06:00 PM
I think hes talking about beta for the 360. PC is way better so pwnt.

Souppy
Oct 10, 2006, 06:00 PM
Don't forget that it is an online demo... maybe they think the server is gonna blow up when everyone will be on the beta... lol

Numnuttz
Oct 10, 2006, 06:01 PM
lol yea japanese servers all over again. As long as the game still comes out in 2 weeks than this beta delay wont be as bad.

krayzie
Oct 10, 2006, 06:01 PM
i can wait it not going to kill me to wait but still it a good thing because i was going to be busy on 11th and half on 12th so the delay work out good for me.

Rizen
Oct 10, 2006, 06:02 PM
OMFGROFBBQ! Im sure we can wait. (although i dont have an xbox)

Pikku
Oct 10, 2006, 06:02 PM
If he meant the Beta then I REALLY dont care...
<<<Japan lover <3
Ill stick to my Playstation 2 and the PC for this game so yeah... how do I take back my vote? lol

Oreic
Oct 10, 2006, 06:04 PM
Is this the american version that is being delayed?

Souppy
Oct 10, 2006, 06:05 PM
yeah... and by the way, can someone explain to me why people starts a topic that is already on the main page of the forum?

Oh yeah! My bad... he added a poll... I'm sorry, it was worth having a second topic on the delayed beta to add that... lol

Nani-chan
Oct 10, 2006, 06:06 PM
This is for the Beta.
To bad there is not a poll option for those who this doesn't effect. Waiting til the 24th+ myself.



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Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 06:06 PM
On 2006-10-10 16:04, Oreic wrote:
Is this the american version that is being delayed?

No, its the X360 beta that has been delayed.

Regular release is still slated for October 24.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 06:08 PM
On 2006-10-10 16:05, Souppy wrote:
yeah... and by the way, can someone explain to me why people starts a topic that is already on the main page of the forum?
Laziness and stupidity.

Oreic
Oct 10, 2006, 06:09 PM
That sux. At least it is still coming out before the game.

Numnuttz
Oct 10, 2006, 06:09 PM
as long as the game still comes out on the 24th, this delay is nothing to me. just gotta pass the time by doing stuff til than

crazyrobot
Oct 10, 2006, 06:10 PM
awww and I was all excited about playing beta tomarrow u.u

Souppy
Oct 10, 2006, 06:11 PM
That would be a great topic for a poll...

Which gamers are the worst?
a) hackers
b) cheaters
c) beggars
d) 10 yo screaming noob kids
e) lazy people asking the same question that was answered 2 mins ago

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 06:14 PM
On 2006-10-10 16:11, Souppy wrote:
That would be a great topic for a poll...

Which gamers are the worst?
a) hackers
b) cheaters
c) beggars
d) 10 yo screaming noob kids
e) lazy people asking the same question that was answered 2 mins ago


You forgot:

f)Saner http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/burger.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/sprite.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/cake.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
g)all of the above

Zael
Oct 10, 2006, 06:16 PM
lol, typical ST service right there

SolKyoshiro
Oct 10, 2006, 06:16 PM
Yes ANIMEniac I understand a good bit of japanese http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif. (Has been playing the japanese offline version for past few days). I was just looking forward to an english version >_>

Souppy
Oct 10, 2006, 06:20 PM
I haven't played with Saner... yet... I guess I don't wanna ask you why you said that... lol (too afraid of what you might say)

Aki03
Oct 10, 2006, 06:21 PM
No PSU :´(

HyperShot-X-
Oct 10, 2006, 06:37 PM
this could be good for some ppl who need more time to check out the official PSU site forum regarding Beta info like me, i kinda think 10/11 was a bit too soon and sudden now i think about it, i need more time to get ready for this !!!

mitchm
Oct 10, 2006, 06:38 PM
On 2006-10-10 15:51, StanleyPain wrote:
What a cock-tease. Sega, you bitch.





hahah that made me laugh... yea Segas a bitch whore for doing this... they should just release the damn demo. the games out in 2 weeks anyway. WHORES. DIAF!!

HyperShot-X-
Oct 10, 2006, 06:43 PM
delay is good for me, i needed more time to check out the official PSU forum for Beta info, just read about the benefit of online tutorial in beta... BTW, is meet n' greet date/location set for us yet?

*oops, i thought i posted this on another thread with the poll, now i can't find it...did Mod remove it???

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ANIMEniac
Oct 10, 2006, 06:45 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/ANIMEniac540/LOLPSU360.jpg

Weak
Oct 10, 2006, 06:47 PM
Okay.. At this point, why not just wait for the Retail Version?

adamgnome104
Oct 10, 2006, 06:52 PM
Anyone who doesn't understand how frustrated people, must have never experianced blue balls.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 07:03 PM
On 2006-10-10 16:47, Weak wrote:
Okay.. At this point, why not just wait for the Retail Version?

^

Mokona99
Oct 10, 2006, 07:12 PM
This is great news for me. Right now, I don't have a gold subscription, but I've been saving up my 48 hour free gold trial subscription I got from getting Ghost Recon when it first came out so I'll just use it to download and play the beta.

Waber
Oct 10, 2006, 07:16 PM
This sucks, I have been looking forward to it since I heard about it, I only hope since they delayed the Beta they wont delay the game itself.

drmcst45
Oct 10, 2006, 07:18 PM
They better get this game out by thursday/friday.

I'll be pissed if they give us some gears of war crap instead of PSU because i think that's what's going to happen.

i bet they'll hold PSU back til next week. Monday/Tuesday release

watashiwa
Oct 10, 2006, 07:24 PM
The topic title should be changed.. "delayed indefinitely" means it's never coming out. The announcement doesn't say anything of the sort..

The stupid "LOL @ PSU360" picture was a waste of time and effort as well. So what if the Open Beta was delayed? It doesn't have any effect on the retail release. Dates for the release of all 3 versions are exactly the same and at least 360 is still getting an Open Beta whereas PS2 and PC aren't, sooooooo.. "LOL @ PSU PS2/PC" if you want to put it that way.

Ecstasy
Oct 10, 2006, 07:25 PM
Everyone just needs to calm down:P I've played a few MMO's in my time, and i have never hade one not have a problem when it's Officially released. This is still beta and free so chill out a little.

ghaleonreborn
Oct 10, 2006, 07:26 PM
im not sure that its going to be totally worth it to beta test it now....i just also learned that the beta chericters wont be kept so hmmmm should i wait till it comes out??? or what....i just want the guide so i can get a poster or some kind of item list and beastery....

AnamanaAU
Oct 10, 2006, 07:28 PM
At least you Xbox360 owners get an english open beta. Be happy with that.

Ecstasy
Oct 10, 2006, 07:34 PM
I can tell we have alot of MMO rookies here:) They always do charecter whips after beta. whether it last's 1 day our 6 months:P

Waber
Oct 10, 2006, 07:36 PM
In one sense I am not really upset about the delay of the Beta, think about it, you only get a little taste of the game (good I know, yes fun) but you will only start to get going and that could be the end of the Beta test period and then you would have to wait a week or so to get back. I would play the Beta when it comes out, but maybe there is some sense to wait for the retail game.

parabolee
Oct 10, 2006, 07:37 PM
On 2006-10-10 17:34, Ecstasy wrote:
I can tell we have alot of MMO rookies here:) They always do charecter whips after beta. whether it last's 1 day our 6 months:P



Not true, FFXI 360 beta allowed people to keep their characters.

And since the news said that it will come out VERY SOON after the 11th, why the hell did the topic creator write "indefinatly"?????


It will most likely be released before next Tuesday.

adamgnome104
Oct 10, 2006, 07:41 PM
I can't wait until I know when the beta is coming out, hoping tommorow they'll let us know.

Weak
Oct 10, 2006, 07:41 PM
Indefinite as in uncertain. Unclear.

The beta has been delayed for an indefinite amount of time. It makes sense.



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ghaleonreborn
Oct 10, 2006, 07:41 PM
but what i dont understand is why it got delaid...thats the question we all here should be asking instead of just proclaiming it to be an attrocity and stuff...i say to sega why did yall delay it??? huh huh huh?

watashiwa
Oct 10, 2006, 07:42 PM
On 2006-10-10 17:37, parabolee wrote:

Not true, FFXI 360 beta allowed people to keep their characters.


There's also a VERY big difference with the FFXI 360 Beta.. you were playing on already established servers which were around for a very long time and housed users from the PS2/PC community.

The FFXI 360 beta didn't have any balancing issues, gameplay adjustments, or any of that sort of thing to look after (as most betas usually do)

The FFXI 360 beta was more so, most likely, to make sure the game ran on the 360 hardware without any problems under normal gameplay conditions.

watashiwa
Oct 10, 2006, 07:44 PM
On 2006-10-10 17:41, Weak wrote:
The beta has been delayed for an indefinite amount of time. It makes sense.


When you say something is delayed "indefinitely", it usually means it's not coming out.. period.

"Very soon" is better to use "indefinitely", and Clumsy used "very soon" himself. (Not indefinitely..)

Which would mean it is coming out and.. very soon.

"Indefinitely" is too strong of a word to use in this situation. (Because we know it has to be between now and at least a few days before the release date.. 10/24/2006)

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HyperShot-X-
Oct 10, 2006, 07:45 PM
Clumsy confirmed beta characters will not be saved for final release due to online port of game is not fully finalized(hence beta test).

i believe delay won't even be that long, there's good chance we'll be playing already by this Fri for the whole wknd.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 07:45 PM
Im willing to bet that the delay of this beta is 100% due to microsoft's certification process, I cant count the number of times developers havve provided content to be released on Live and then Microsoft sits on it for 2 or 3 days, im used to it now, you can usually add at least 2 days to every release date for marketplace content.

Waber
Oct 10, 2006, 07:48 PM
On 2006-10-10 17:41, ghaleonreborn wrote:
but what i dont understand is why it got delaid...thats the question we all here should be asking instead of just proclaiming it to be an attrocity and stuff...i say to sega why did yall delay it??? huh huh huh?



That is a good question, WHY? It was ready from sega I am assuming, but if you go onto the xbox forums, people are saying that Microsoft is delaying it. To build up suspense I guess, if I can recall they did the same thing with Dead rising Demo.

StanleyPain
Oct 10, 2006, 07:50 PM
another thing to keep in mind is that MS recently updated the Marketplace with that Pipeline thing where you can look at the content of the marketplace from Xbox's website...maybe adding that had something to do with it.
But don't fret folks..we'll get DIG DUG tomorrow!!!!
Aren't you excited!! What's not to be excited about!! It's a 20+ year old game!!

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 07:50 PM
i dont mind not being able to bring over the character, I like to use the beta as a testing period to get a feel for different races and fighting styles. Im a noob to PSU anyways so its a really good chance to get some experience before the real game starts, cant wait for it Ill definately be buying it on release day.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 07:53 PM
lol, dig dug can kiss my ass, I didnt even bother with that when It was released when I was like 10. sometimes I hate marketplace so much for making us wait for stuff...then I realize I love it so much when the stuff does come out. Guess its a love/hate relationship

drmcst45
Oct 10, 2006, 08:02 PM
On 2006-10-10 17:45, Funkwell wrote:
Im willing to bet that the delay of this beta is 100% due to microsoft's certification process, I cant count the number of times developers havve provided content to be released on Live and then Microsoft sits on it for 2 or 3 days, im used to it now, you can usually add at least 2 days to every release date for marketplace content.



I bet. Wasn't there another BIG named demo that had this problem as well?

I think it was Dead Rising maybe... They said Wednesday was the day and then got delayed and randomly appeared on the friday of that week?

StanleyPain
Oct 10, 2006, 08:02 PM
I grew up in arcades and I remember when dig Dug was the shit, but MS has got to be kidding with this updating every Wednesday with a lousy 20 year old arcade game. Doom not withstanding, these updates are garbage. But, i don't want this to get too far off topic. I'm guessing it's a mixture of MS issues that are delaying the beta.
In fact, it would not surprise me if MS was upset that the beta release would have taken attention away from their AMAZING WEDNESDAY release of Dig Dug. It sounds silly, but think about it...MS made a big thing out of how they were going to release an Arcade game every wednesday. It's like they're trying to hammer that home and don't want something actually cool to interfere with that.

mogshaz
Oct 10, 2006, 08:05 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:02, StanleyPain wrote:
I grew up in arcades and I remember when dig Dug was the shit, but MS has got to be kidding with this updating every Wednesday with a lousy 20 year old arcade game. Doom not withstanding, these updates are garbage. But, i don't want this to get too far off topic. I'm guessing it's a mixture of MS issues that are delaying the beta.
In fact, it would not surprise me if MS was upset that the beta release would have taken attention away from their AMAZING WEDNESDAY release of Dig Dug. It sounds silly, but think about it...MS made a big thing out of how they were going to release an Arcade game every wednesday. It's like they're trying to hammer that home and don't want something actually cool to interfere with that.



even if that were true they would have just arranged for the demo to come out after the live arcade update from the beginning. If Microsofts ego were hurt by this somehow they would have thought about it before they announced thats when it was coming out.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 08:21 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:02, drmcst45 wrote:


On 2006-10-10 17:45, Funkwell wrote:
Im willing to bet that the delay of this beta is 100% due to microsoft's certification process, I cant count the number of times developers havve provided content to be released on Live and then Microsoft sits on it for 2 or 3 days, im used to it now, you can usually add at least 2 days to every release date for marketplace content.



I bet. Wasn't there another BIG named demo that had this problem as well?

I think it was Dead Rising maybe... They said Wednesday was the day and then got delayed and randomly appeared on the friday of that week?



yeah, that happened to dead rising and prey too I think, its almost to the point where any release date they give is a straight up lie. I really hope that delays are due to technical reasons and not (for the love of God) pr reasons, I dont think Microsoft would really do this, however alot of people dont seem to agree with me. The conspiracy theroies about microsoft sitting on finished content in order to hype the release of something else are always floating around, you have to take them with a grain of salt though.

lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 08:29 PM
i'm completely open to any conspiracy theory that involves an american company gaining higher profits.

hollowtip
Oct 10, 2006, 08:31 PM
Maybe there isn't a delay at all. Maybe this announcement is a just a ploy to keep the servers from being hammered. I'll still be on tomorrow every couple of hours just to check and see if they are just bluffing.

Yeah highly unlikely but you never know.

Numnuttz
Oct 10, 2006, 08:32 PM
yes, time for the conspiracy theory on the 360 demo. i was wondering when this would start because i even found myself thinking about it when i started day dreaming during the day.

mogshaz
Oct 10, 2006, 08:33 PM
anyone ever wonder why its called a conspiracy theory and not a conspiracy? even if there was a huge conspiracy on the part of microsoft to withhold a demo from the marketplace so they get people to download Dig Dug (as if they have nothing better to do) there is one thing you have to ask yourself. Why? why not just port both right next to eachother on marketplace so when you see that fancy new Demo for PSU you also see the Dig Dug download and you get both or atleast more people see that Dig Dug is downloadable than would have otherwise.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 08:33 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:29, lolichan wrote:
i'm completely open to any conspiracy theory that involves an american company gaining higher profits.



good point, and I guess if theres a company that fits the prototype for the lead role in a conspiracy theory its microsoft.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 08:36 PM
a good one I just heard was in the forum on majornelson's site about this beta interfering with the release of dig dug, again highly unlikely...but so, so ,so sad if true.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 10, 2006, 08:37 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:29, lolichan wrote:
i'm completely open to any conspiracy theory that involves an american company gaining higher profits.

Fixed; no reason to single out America.

But yes, money makes the world go 'round.

It's the Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.



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Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 08:39 PM
Have to put priorities in order.

Dig Dug > PSU

</sarcasm>

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 08:39 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:33, mogshaz wrote:
anyone ever wonder why its called a conspiracy theory and not a conspiracy? even if there was a huge conspiracy on the part of microsoft to withhold a demo from the marketplace so they get people to download Dig Dug (as if they have nothing better to do) there is one thing you have to ask yourself. Why? why not just port both right next to eachother on marketplace so when you see that fancy new Demo for PSU you also see the Dig Dug download and you get both or atleast more people see that Dig Dug is downloadable than would have otherwise.



yup, thats pretty much the kicker, the fact that logically it just doesnt make sense. Its fun as hell though to theorize about it, and it lets off a little steam to boot.

Numnuttz
Oct 10, 2006, 08:42 PM
lol the game dig dug, because of whats happened dig dug has become an enemy to all psu 360 players.

Pacpunk
Oct 10, 2006, 08:42 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:37, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:


On 2006-10-10 18:29, lolichan wrote:
i'm completely open to any conspiracy theory that involves an american company gaining higher profits.

Fixed; no reason to single out America.

But yes, money makes the world go 'round.

It's the Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ffuzzy-Logik on 2006-10-10 18:41 ]</font>


i love that movie lol

SaviorSe1f
Oct 10, 2006, 08:43 PM
Dig Dug?? wow...this just ruined my whole day tommorow...I didn't have to work...I new it was too good to be true

ANIMEniac
Oct 10, 2006, 08:44 PM
dug and his stupid little music that only plays while he is moving -_- lol

ChemicalO
Oct 10, 2006, 08:59 PM
It will probably come friday, that has been the track record. Delayed from wed. it comes friday. I least we still get the weekend. Lets hope.

shadynook
Oct 10, 2006, 09:00 PM
i can't believe this, i can't wait anymore, i guess i will just have to download dig dig!

Velrath
Oct 10, 2006, 09:02 PM
I'll be glad as long as it comes out before sunday. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
and
LOL @ DIGDUG

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 09:07 PM
On 2006-10-10 18:37, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:


On 2006-10-10 18:29, lolichan wrote:
i'm completely open to any conspiracy theory that involves an american company gaining higher profits.

Fixed; no reason to single out America.

But yes, money makes the world go 'round.

It's the Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ffuzzy-Logik on 2006-10-10 18:41 ]</font>


I thought Super Man made the world go 'round.

Least he makes it go backwards >_>

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 09:07 PM
Major Nelson said:

Regarding PSO...talk to SEGA about it since it's their title...but here are my thoughts on dates that are given.

Just got this response from majornelson himself on his website, guess that sheds some light on the situation, oh well like others have said..as long as we see it by Friday.

mogshaz
Oct 10, 2006, 09:09 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:07, Funkwell wrote:
Major Nelson said:

Regarding PSO...talk to SEGA about it since it's their title...but here are my thoughts on dates that are given.

Just got this response from majornelson himself on his website, guess that sheds some light on the situation, oh well like others have said..as long as we see it by Friday.




and if we don't see it friday we riot?

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 09:10 PM
ok Ill start by looting the nearest EB store..anyone with me?

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 09:11 PM
And his thoughts were...?

Blank?

Skyly
Oct 10, 2006, 09:12 PM
This blows!!!!

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 09:15 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:11, Zeta wrote:
And his thoughts were...?

Blank?



lol, yeah I noticed that in my post afterwards, that was a link to another post he made weeks ago stating how every time he sees a developer give a release date he cringes due to the last minute problems that can arise when posting content to the marketplace.

StanleyPain
Oct 10, 2006, 09:19 PM
I'll sum it up:

"confirmation takes a long time and is complex. Games often don't get the content released on time because o fit."


But, yes, it's pretty suspicious that when MS suddenly pulls a release date out of it's ass for something that's part of their big marketed content, anything else originall intended to be released that day suddenly gets mysterious delayed.

BaZ2
Oct 10, 2006, 09:22 PM
Noting new on MS part they have everything delayed.

princejake2
Oct 10, 2006, 09:25 PM
Damnit all. I borrowed my friend's 360 specifically so I could play the beta.

Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 09:31 PM
You'd think after the 10th or 12th time this happened the lines of communication between M$ and ˘ompany would open up a little. Perhaps a memo listing what needs to be done in order to get certified?

So M$ blames the company for not knowing what is involved in actually getting certified, and the company is just prematurely setting dates.

Uh huh.

Again, a memo would help in situations like this. I'm not sure "red tape" is the true cause of dumbidity like this, though.

I see M$ pointing the finger at ˘ompany, and I'm sure ˘ompany would turn around and blame M$.

It's not gold that makes the world go 'round, it's bureaucracy. It just looks like bureaucracy makes the world come to a screeching halt.

watashiwa
Oct 10, 2006, 09:35 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:31, Shye wrote:
M$ and ˘ompany




On 2006-10-10 19:31, Shye wrote:

M$



.. ugh.

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 09:44 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:31, Shye wrote:
Again, a memo would help in situations like this. I'm not sure "red tape" is the true cause of dumbidity like this, though.


I think the word you were looking for was stupidity. Not to make you look dumb or anything. Just pointing it out.

Also, I believe Microsoft's name is Microsoft, and should not be abbreviated in a way that detracts from the company.

Again, just pointing it out.

lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 09:52 PM
loldumbidity

Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 09:54 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:44, Zeta wrote:
I think the word you were looking for was stupidity. Not to make you look dumb or anything. Just pointing it out.

Also, I believe Microsoft's name is Microsoft, and should not be abbreviated in a way that detracts from the company.

Again, just pointing it out.


Noooo, the word I wanted to use was "dumbidity" because it encapsulates both dumb and stupidity. The fact the word "dumbidity" doesn't exist adds another layer to not only the humor, but the idiocy of the situation as a whole. It was as if I was trying to say the situation was so dumb one adjective wouldn't do it justice.

But then, that's just my kind of humor. Dumb humor.

As for the abbreviation; if that's what people concentrated on in my post then obviously I'm wasting my time. The abbreviation was part of the humor too.

I'll be sure to reign in any further commentary.

g00dman12
Oct 10, 2006, 09:57 PM
This is A sad day i wanted to play it tommor so bad. But it should be comeing out soon tho

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 09:57 PM
just wondering guys...is it true the Japanese version of this game had a major server crash that stopped all online play for a full month? and if this is true what do you think the chances of this happening on the the 360 servers are?

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 09:59 PM
Humour like yours is far too clever to be posted here, and it's also hard to pick up on through text.

I apologize, my post was out of line.

Phalynx
Oct 10, 2006, 09:59 PM
Chances are unknown, we'd like to believe ST will learn from their mistakes, but you never know.



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McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:01 PM
It wasn't a crash, there were just so many poeple trying to log on the servers slowed to a standstill. Chances of this happeneing are slim because the Xbox 360's population will only be a fraction of the number of people Japan had with PS2 and PC players (on linked servers no less).

EDIT: The servers weren't down for a month either, they were exceptionally slow for approximately a week though, while Sega set up more servers to alleviate the stress.

Again, chances of this occuring again are slim.



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Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 10:01 PM
I apologize, my post was out of line.


No offense taken.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 10:05 PM
On 2006-10-10 19:35, watashiwa wrote:


On 2006-10-10 19:31, Shye wrote:
M$ and ˘ompany




On 2006-10-10 19:31, Shye wrote:

M$



.. ugh.



Who wants to bet that Shye is probably running a "M$" created OS?

Like Windows?

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:07 PM
We've already covered this.

Drop it.

Shye
Oct 10, 2006, 10:07 PM
My abbreviation had nothing to do with my personal feelings for the company, it had to do with the humor of the rest of the post. Feel free to enjoy the humor, or not.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 10:08 PM
Oh?

CpwninOBrien
Oct 10, 2006, 10:08 PM
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???

iHaq
Oct 10, 2006, 10:12 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



Thanks for being a complete idiot. Made me feel better about myself.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 10:13 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



what?

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:13 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:01, Zeta wrote:
It wasn't a crash, there were just so many poeple trying to log on the servers slowed to a standstill. Chances of this happeneing are slim because the Xbox 360's population will only be a fraction of the number of people Japan had with PS2 and PC players (on linked servers no less).

EDIT: The servers weren't down for a month either, they were exceptionally slow for approximately a week though, while Sega set up more servers to alleviate the stress.

Again, chances of this occuring again are slim.



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cool, thanks for the info

iHaq
Oct 10, 2006, 10:15 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:13, phunk wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



what?



I think I can translate.

so I'm the only person here who hasn't passed 2nd grade spelling=sad??? i feel very left about and will likely become nothing with my life too??? dis is stupid ,whats PSU?

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:16 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:17 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



The certification only applies to things being put up for download on the Marketplace. The game itself is ready to go. Microsoft just tends to be unspecific as to the requirements for certifying content.

No worries.

iHaq
Oct 10, 2006, 10:17 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:16, Funkwell wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects



You must often work with the special ed to understand what the hell that man just typed.

Alielle
Oct 10, 2006, 10:18 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:16, Funkwell wrote:

Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects



Would the "beta" really be so radically different from retail this close to release?

watashiwa
Oct 10, 2006, 10:19 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:18, Alielle wrote:
Would the "beta" really be so radically different from retail this close to release?



Clumsy tends to think so. He claims also that the reason beta characters can't be saved for retail is because the online architecture will be changed between beta to retail.

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:21 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:17, iHaq wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:16, Funkwell wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects



You must often work with the special ed to understand what the hell that man just typed.



Interpretation skills have nothing to do with your place of employment. If you can't understand what he said, you should be in the same second grade class as him.

CpwninOBrien
Oct 10, 2006, 10:21 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:21, Zeta wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:17, iHaq wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:16, Funkwell wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects



You must often work with the special ed to understand what the hell that man just typed.



Interpretation skills have nothing to do with your place of employment. If you can't understand what he said, you should be in the same second grade class as him.



lol pwnd

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:21 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:18, Alielle wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:16, Funkwell wrote:

Id say your pretty much the only one thinking this will happen. The release of a beta via the Live marketplace and the release of the retail game are two completely different things with their own issues and technical aspects



Would the "beta" really be so radically different from retail this close to release?



Im too tired...Zeta you wanna handle this one?

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:22 PM
Watashiwa is on the ball. I'm going to bed too >_>

Misaki Ki
Oct 10, 2006, 10:23 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:08, CpwninOBrien wrote:
so i the only person whose thinkin very soon = not very soon for every1 not in game develipment??? if demo failed cert wouldn't game likly fail cert too??? meaning havin to repress all the discs and stuff???



There are different factors that go into the cert process. Main difference between this and the final game is that the beta is going to be ran from the harddrive while the game from the disk. Also, the beta would most likely not contain everything that the final game has so that itself could contain a problem.

Also certifying a game for the market place can sometimes go very slow or move quickly, if they find just one problem they will want to investigate it rather than let us suffer the hard way.

I must ask, was it ever comfirmed that there was a certifying problem? Could it be that it was a more legal problem?

DiscReadError
Oct 10, 2006, 10:24 PM
Let me tell you what i think about this so called "BETA" Now how can you possibly say you have a beta for a game 2 weeks before the game comes out this is kinda stupid its more like a beta for the servers than the actual game. Dont get me wrong i luv the fact that i can play PSU 2 weeks before its release im just saying why not call it a demo instead of a beta the game has probably gone gold already or about to go gold anyone else agree?

Ryogen
Oct 10, 2006, 10:24 PM
How do you guys call "A FEW HOURS" a delay? SEGA didn't say it will be out the night of the 11th....

If you guys are dissipointed then you obviosuly have nothing to do...that is why I will put you to work..

ghaleonreborn
Oct 10, 2006, 10:24 PM
it sucks that the beta wont be coming soon we gotta ask sega why tho instead of just complaining about it....>.<

Artorius
Oct 10, 2006, 10:25 PM
Yes it is sad, but I am sure they have a good reason for doing so. An unstable Demo, or server could hurt the game before it's release. Personally I want as many people as posible to buy this game for the 360 because it will just make the online community in PSU that much better.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/Artorius.png (http://profile.mygamercard.net/Artorius)

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:26 PM
It's just assumed there's a hold up in the certification process, because there's really nothing to legally dispute over unless someone is being totally anal about the demo being released on the same day as Dig Dug.

I'm banking on Thursday or Friday for the demo as the day to go up.

EDIT: Evidently, I'm far too tired to type fast enough.

Releasing a Beta, no matter how close to release of the official game, is a good idea because there's always the prospect of finding something wrong and being able to fix it before launch, making your company look that much better, and having fewer people know about the bug.

It's also an excellent marketing tool.

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Nekomimi
Oct 10, 2006, 10:26 PM
AHHH GOD THE WORLD IS ENDING

Get over it. I always laugh when free demos/betas are delayed and people immediately jump to doomsday conclusions.

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:26 PM
A perfect explanation, no more questions please...good point on the possibilty of a legal problem causing all of our heartache, unlikely but valid nonetheless

Natrokos
Oct 10, 2006, 10:27 PM
*Turns into Incredible Hulk and breaks computer*

.....God.....Damn.....It...... I don't even work tomorrow or anything.

DiscReadError
Oct 10, 2006, 10:29 PM
I just came back from work like 20 minutes ago thinking i was going to download the demo/beta and get rdy for a long night instead i come back to this *sight* oohh well back to Final Fantasy XII

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:32 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:26, Nekomimi wrote:
AHHH GOD THE WORLD IS ENDING

Get over it. I always laugh when free demos/betas are delayed and people immediately jump to doomsday conclusions.



I dont really see any doomsday conclusions here, some upset 360 owners venting in a legitmate, sensible manner perhaps but Id hardly go so far as to say the world is ending, then again my skin has been thickened somewhat when it comes to let downs on marketplace releases.

closer013
Oct 10, 2006, 10:32 PM
Hey all!
I don't know how many of you remember, but there was a glorious time when games came out on Tuesdays, not SHIPPED on Tuesdays, but could be purchased on Tuesdays. Call me weird or tell me I have OCD but that push of a day foward in the week has been agonizing to me. I logged on earier and seen that the beta for 360 has been pushed back and I can deal, but then I seen this and now I'm confused and angry, what the hell is going on? I WANT THIS DAMNED GAME!

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4051/untitledqn3.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledqn3.jpg)

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 10:33 PM
Hey..


Hey...


Hey....


Shut up:

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=120947&forum=20&max_posts=181

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closer013
Oct 10, 2006, 10:35 PM
Um, ok, thanks for the link, I read that already... Did you see the pic?

kyori
Oct 10, 2006, 10:36 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:19, watashiwa wrote:


On 2006-10-10 20:18, Alielle wrote:
Would the "beta" really be so radically different from retail this close to release?



Clumsy tends to think so. He claims also that the reason beta characters can't be saved for retail is because the online architecture will be changed between beta to retail.



Well thats a bit more pleasing of a reason than online balance. I'm wondering if it was the same idea for PC closed beta and PS2 premiere.

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:36 PM
The release date is the day the game ships to retailers. Depending on your location, the game takes longer to get there and subsequently is sold at a later date.

OsF
Oct 10, 2006, 10:37 PM
Its cool how all this mindless moaning and crying really helps the game come out faster.

Oh damn, wait..

Funkwell
Oct 10, 2006, 10:38 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:29, DiscReadError wrote:
I just came back from work like 20 minutes ago thinking i was going to download the demo/beta and get rdy for a long night instead i come back to this *sight* oohh well back to Final Fantasy XII



lol, I feel your hurt brother, I worked 10 hours earlier today and then spent the entire night moving my sister and all of her heavy furniture into her new house, the whole while looking forward to finally getting home to wait for the beta. Oh well patience is a virtue right?

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 10:39 PM
On 2006-10-10 20:35, closer013 wrote:
Um, ok, thanks for the link, I read that already... Did you see the pic?


Yes,

the link's purpose was to show you that complaining about something you have no control over is as useless as a flame in water.

McLaughlin
Oct 10, 2006, 10:40 PM
O_O

Another topic merger. This thing is going to amalgomate half the board!

RUN!! Iz Gojira!!! (Family Guy for those not in the know).

And with that, I fall asleep.

Silvernix
Oct 10, 2006, 10:54 PM
I have to admit, PSU is already causing my faith in the game to fall. ....I loved Phantasy Star. I was actually playing Phantasy Star 4 while waiting for the game to start. ...sigh.

Oreic
Oct 10, 2006, 11:01 PM
The latest that the beta can come out is the 17 im guessing cause that is a week be fore launch which would give us a 1 week beta.

ProfessorZ
Oct 10, 2006, 11:04 PM
Not cool. I've lost all the love for this game cuz my hopes dashed down the drain. Still I'll wait till midnight

Deathcraze
Oct 10, 2006, 11:04 PM
All I could think of when I heard this news was "how very Sega". None the less I am disappointed and this gives me even less faith in Sonic Team than I already had, but on the bright side the wait for the demo shouldn't be too long anyway.



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lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 11:06 PM
people that quote themselves fail.

Deathcraze
Oct 10, 2006, 11:07 PM
On 2006-10-10 21:06, lolichan wrote:
people that quote themselves fail.



Thought I had pressed the edit button http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

ghaleonreborn
Oct 10, 2006, 11:10 PM
when will the beta be out then?

Oreic
Oct 10, 2006, 11:13 PM
OMG...I think pretty much everyone here needs to not get so obssesed over such a small thing like a game beta not being released its just like Halo 2 (besides the fact that this is just the beta being released later and not the actuall game)anyways back on topic it just like Halo 2 which was always being held back. Same thing with Oblivion I wait ed a little more that 4 years for it. We can all wait a little longer for a beta of a game.



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Saner
Oct 10, 2006, 11:13 PM
ah this is a cruel joke.


will the beta still even come this week?


hmmmm. probably next week.




the worst result would be an eventual delay of the full version.



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lolichan
Oct 10, 2006, 11:14 PM
no idea

Velrath
Oct 10, 2006, 11:15 PM
It seems that Sega is only guilty of posting a beta release date they shouldn't have predicted. If they said the beta would simply come out "this week" then this thread would not exist. Although it is their fault for stating the release date in the first place...

I have no idea if the above few sentence make sense because I am seriously tired, goodnight PSOW.

ghaleonreborn
Oct 10, 2006, 11:17 PM
i doubt the full version will be delayed because they advertise the 24th everywhere....it would suck for the ad campain...plus i think i will puke if they delay the real game....i will puke i say puke!

Deathcraze
Oct 10, 2006, 11:21 PM
On 2006-10-10 21:13, Oreic wrote:
OMG...I think pretty much everyone here needs to not get so obssesed over such a small thing like a game beta not being released its just like Halo 2 (besides the fact that this is just the beta being released later and not the actuall game)anyways back on topic it just like Halo 2 which was always being held back. Same thing with Oblivion I wait ed a little more that 4 years for it. We can all wait a little longer for a beta of a game.


The difference is that Bungie didn't say a few days before Halo 2 release "get the game in 24 hours" and then 2 days later say "whoops! wait longer!". You would have thought this Beta download would have been finalised by now with no crossed wires bewteen Sega and Microsoft.

You are right in saying people are overreacting a bit, and in future it is best not to take marketplace release dates too seriously since they almost never tend to pan out.

Axios-
Oct 10, 2006, 11:30 PM
I just got a wonderful image of Phantasy Starcraft Ghost. Ah well, I don't see this demo's delay as anything significant.

phunk
Oct 10, 2006, 11:31 PM
When it comes, it comes. Seriously, I"m suprised to see that no one has anything better to do but complain about a change of events. Yes, Sega should not have posted a date if they knew it was not going to be set in stone. However, its just a game; yes I said it, it is just a game.

If PSU is delayed or the beta never does end up being released, so what? If that happens, chances are everyone here will just find another game or pastime and forget all about PSU.

No one but Sega has control of the date of beta or retail. Thank god some of you don't play other MMOs; if the server went down I'd hate to see how some of you would react.

Darsh
Oct 11, 2006, 12:05 AM
HEY its a big surprise isnt it? Oh well, all i can say is its sega. It's quite apparent that this was a very poorly coordinated event. GOOD JOB SEGA~!

Cigaro
Oct 11, 2006, 12:06 AM
No, I bet everyone's thrilled about it.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Oct 11, 2006, 12:07 AM
This what, the 3rd topic? 4th?

Nani-chan
Oct 11, 2006, 12:08 AM
Read part of the 14+ pages of "Xbox 360 Beta Delayed". There are probably a few people worried.

I'm not worried in any case.



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-Crokar-
Oct 11, 2006, 12:08 AM
yeah something like that

Weak
Oct 11, 2006, 12:09 AM
I wish there was no open beta.

Then this forum would be more productive, rather than blind rage and complaints.

Sega could have a completely reasonable explanation.

Lutz_Sper
Oct 11, 2006, 12:18 AM
Well....to wait a bit more

drmcst45
Oct 11, 2006, 12:59 AM
ya man, i'm still here >.>

Merumeru
Oct 11, 2006, 01:02 AM
XD aw crap i pretty much napped all day in anticipation of playing 4AM tonight...and i got work til Tues of next week! XD o wells...

Sabinblitz
Oct 11, 2006, 01:39 AM
Kinda hoping to get in on the action before I had to work all day Fri. - Sat.

Can't always get what you want. Hopefully it doesn't get released until Sun. so all the people I added for PSU aren't lvl's ahead of me.

The game will be out the 24th. I have faith that ST will fix the game moving at a crawl and that morphing character thing and losing character data (or starting over whatever it was). Just have some patience, if you need an MMO fix, play one of the many free ones on the internet, or pick up a free-trial for WoW. Or, *gasp* do something else besides using your computer or playing video games.

EC_Subbie
Oct 11, 2006, 02:11 AM
According to one of the IGN editors..


"Expect the open beta to come this weekend. I was told updated specifics would be released on Thursday." - Erik-IGN

http://boards.ign.com/xbox_360_general_board/b8266/128867885/p3/?62

Taichi
Oct 11, 2006, 03:08 AM
(Off-Topic) DIG DUG has just been released for XBL Arcade around 4am EST. This might give us some hope that when the PSU Beta is released, it will most likely be on around this time for us East Coast gamers.

megamatt
Oct 11, 2006, 05:30 AM
Do we get to keep characters? I can get alot done in a week lol.

McLaughlin
Oct 11, 2006, 05:42 AM
It's been made clear that Beta characters will not be carried over to the final product.

Magician
Oct 11, 2006, 06:05 AM
Just plain dirty. Why do you tease us so, Sonic Team?

Watch, it'll be released the night of the 17th and ended the morning of the 18th.
*crazy eyes*







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Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 06:10 AM
i took off work and school today god damnit, wtf this is BS, i have work tomorrow and friday until 8, and i live 30 mins away from my house, so i wont be back till like 8:30 or 9, omfg im seriously so pissed right now.

Coxy
Oct 11, 2006, 06:25 AM
All you people who took the day off from whatever you were doing are oh so sad

Yes I love PSO and yes I am greatly looking forward to PSU but for the love of god why would you take an entire day off just to play a beta of the game that was more than likely going to be delayed anyway and then bitch and moan about it?

Blenjar
Oct 11, 2006, 06:46 AM
:'(

-- Blen

solidsolo
Oct 11, 2006, 07:55 AM
ya comone peeps... its just a beta.. dont let it ruin ur lives.. the game will be here in less than two weeks so relax... BUT DAMNIT I GOT UP AT 6 AM TO CHECK FOR THE BETA AND THERE WAS NO BETA!!! I WAS SHAFTED!!!

Enderes
Oct 11, 2006, 07:56 AM
Why is everyone blaming ST or SEGA? Blame Microsoft.

ZincChill
Oct 11, 2006, 08:15 AM
Although I'm disappointed that the beta didn't get released on time, I am by no means mad at Sega, or Microsoft for that matter. I mean come on...it's a beta.

As long as they deliver a quality, complete game on time I have no complaints...

TaruofTerror
Oct 11, 2006, 08:21 AM
le sigh. And I was looking forward to this ever since I heard the news T_T

Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 08:29 AM
yea blame micrasoft, *starts humming SP tune* blame microsoft blame microsoft

ProfessorZ
Oct 11, 2006, 08:30 AM
Damn now I have a whole day where I'm gonna do nothing

Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 08:36 AM
hey don ill add you im on live now do you have doom?

Beck
Oct 11, 2006, 08:50 AM
Fuck this shit, im tired of waiting for this damned game.I used to be a DC PSO fan but this is just too much, fuck this shit if it comes down to it i'll stick to good ol' boring FFXI.All this waiting for PSU is probably not gonna be worth it when(if at all) comes out.Oh and fuck you sonic team, fuck you.

Sammy
Oct 11, 2006, 08:54 AM
Keh! I was hoping they were lying!

Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 08:59 AM
On 2006-10-11 06:50, Beck wrote:
Fuck this shit, im tired of waiting for this damned game.I used to be a DC PSO fan but this is just too much, fuck this shit if it comes down to it i'll stick to good ol' boring FFXI.All this waiting for PSU is probably not gonna be worth it when(if at all) comes out.Oh and fuck you sonic team, fuck you.



wow dude, thems some pretty harsh words there. i dont think you should worry, they maybe tweaking some stuff, think about how much it must of glitched for the JP version, you should be happy it wont be like that when it comes out, im jealous of the closed beta players and im disapointed the open beta was delayed, but at least its coming out, i mean, the release date hasnt changed, be thankful for that. maybe they want to make the beta more avaliable so they may release it on the weekend, you have to think these things through, do you really think that they would just be asses. i mean most companys are only for profit, and delaying the game wont help them, obviously you can see, they probably just want to make it so more peeps can play on the weekend. lol take it easy man. peace out guys

Beck
Oct 11, 2006, 09:01 AM
Least they can do is NOT change the release date.I mean this was the only game i was really excited for, this game is the main reason i got my 360.But now...ooooohhhh mannn am i mad!



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Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 09:04 AM
yea, and i dont think they will, even if the beta doesnt come out, i mean im still getting it, do you have a gamertag?? live at all? add me if you do, my gamertag is X Zabot X, i dont use Zabot no more, got a new tag for PSU, peace man.

justbrak
Oct 11, 2006, 09:10 AM
On 2006-10-11 05:56, Enderes wrote:
Why is everyone blaming ST or SEGA? Blame Microsoft.


Because it has been said over and over amongst Microsoft public statements that manufacturers need to ensure all certification is complete before posting dates for things to hit the marketplace.
In essence this is like the person mixing the cake batter says that a cake will be done in 30 minutes. Then the person who puts it in the oven says "nope. we are at higher altitude and it will take 35 minutes. We still need to let it cool for 10 minutes after that and then we will put on the frosting. That will take another 5-10 minutes depending upon how fancy the design will be. Then we can serve it. so it will be ready in 50-55 minutes."
But blaming the big guy is sooo much easier. Especially when I am typing this out on my mac while grooving to my ipod.

Sammy
Oct 11, 2006, 09:16 AM
On 2006-10-11 07:10, justbrak wrote:


On 2006-10-11 05:56, Enderes wrote:
Why is everyone blaming ST or SEGA? Blame Microsoft.


Because it has been said over and over amongst Microsoft public statements that manufacturers need to ensure all certification is complete before posting dates for things to hit the marketplace.
In essence this is like the person mixing the cake batter says that a cake will be done in 30 minutes. Then the person who puts it in the oven says "nope. we are at higher altitude and it will take 35 minutes. We still need to let it cool for 10 minutes after that and then we will put on the frosting. That will take another 5-10 minutes depending upon how fancy the design will be. Then we can serve it. so it will be ready in 50-55 minutes."
But blaming the big guy is sooo much easier. Especially when I am typing this out on my mac while grooving to my ipod.



Wow you sure know alot about making cakes...
Ah~, I can't believe I actually got free time today off of work. T.T

Saigan
Oct 11, 2006, 09:20 AM
On 2006-10-11 06:50, Beck wrote:
Fuck this shit, im tired of waiting for this damned game.I used to be a DC PSO fan but this is just too much, fuck this shit if it comes down to it i'll stick to good ol' boring FFXI.All this waiting for PSU is probably not gonna be worth it when(if at all) comes out.Oh and fuck you sonic team, fuck you.



Er, if it means that much to you you probably need to get out more. Games get delayed all the time, just be glad it hasn't been cancelled *coughstarcraftfghostimlookingatyoucough* or pushed back by YEARS a la Duke Nukem Forever.

We know it's coming eventually so just be patient.

justbrak
Oct 11, 2006, 09:20 AM
I did not agree with the statement "You can't have your cake and eat it too." So I learned how to make cakes so that I can ALWAYS have and eat my cake. Cake and cookies. Love 'em!

Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 09:23 AM
On 2006-10-11 07:20, Saigan wrote:


On 2006-10-11 06:50, Beck wrote:
Fuck this shit, im tired of waiting for this damned game.I used to be a DC PSO fan but this is just too much, fuck this shit if it comes down to it i'll stick to good ol' boring FFXI.All this waiting for PSU is probably not gonna be worth it when(if at all) comes out.Oh and fuck you sonic team, fuck you.



Er, if it means that much to you you probably need to get out more. Games get delayed all the time, just be glad it hasn't been cancelled *coughstarcraftfghostimlookingatyoucough* or pushed back by YEARS a la Duke Nukem Forever.

We know it's coming eventually so just be patient.


GOD DAMNIT FUCKERS, STILL WAITING ON STARCRAFT GHOS, I THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN FORGOTTEN. i guess its sapposed to be on comp and you can download it, but nothin of it now, i dont think its happening

Saner
Oct 11, 2006, 09:24 AM
On 2006-10-11 00:11, EC_Subbie wrote:
According to one of the IGN editors..


"Expect the open beta to come this weekend. I was told updated specifics would be released on Thursday." - Erik-IGN

http://boards.ign.com/xbox_360_general_board/b8266/128867885/p3/?62





would this mean we would still have at least 7 days to play the beta?

TwilightSea
Oct 11, 2006, 09:29 AM
This is complete bull****. By the time it comes out; we'll have even less time to play the beta. ST better effing extend the beta test date. If this comes out on Monday; we'll only have three days to beta test it. That's not enough time to get our fix in!

Zabot
Oct 11, 2006, 09:30 AM
as long as its released sometime this weekend but if its after then itl probably be more like 4-6 days

MilkManX
Oct 11, 2006, 09:35 AM
Oh well gives me more time to finish Perfect Dark before I get sucked into the PSU Black Hole!

Saner
Oct 11, 2006, 09:36 AM
On 2006-10-11 07:29, TwilightSea wrote:
This is complete bull****. By the time it comes out; we'll have even less time to play the beta. ST better effing extend the beta test date. If this comes out on Monday; we'll only have three days to beta test it. That's not enough time to get our fix in!



the full game comes out the 24th, two weeks away.


they can relaese the beta next monday and there would still be enough time, unless the beta expiration date is still the 18th. but its delayed so ya they must also extend the beta's final day.

Crawdad
Oct 11, 2006, 10:40 AM
SEGA has announced on the official Site that thebeta has been delayed for the 360 from October 11th to "Very Soon" and stated that it will be up in the coming days. I got excited and tried to find it and then saw on the site that they delayed it.

See http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/ for info on that.

phunk
Oct 11, 2006, 10:41 AM
.........................................

foamcup
Oct 11, 2006, 10:42 AM
Old news.

kassy
Oct 11, 2006, 10:42 AM
orly?

Saner
Oct 11, 2006, 10:42 AM
ya they should update and release a new date soon.

either that or just put it on marketplace even without notice beforehand, ppl here who check marketplace daily will spread the word.