PSU: EU/AU Players: Import Topic (inc. subscribe chat)

[Mikaga]

(I've decided to rip this thread of the pre-ordering/importing thread and create a new thread just for this issue.)

This thread is for us impatient European and Australian players who wish to:

• Play the game as soon as possible.
• Not be left behind by the advantaged North American players and their earlier release date.

I've read quite a few proclaimations from European and Australian fans that they shall be importing the game from America to save time (and generally money), and figured that we could all do with a place to discuss the matter.

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To open up the topic (and because with 12 days to go I'm starting to panic myself), I'll list the options I've found and the problems within:

• Play-Asia (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-19-49-en-15-Phantasy+Star+Universe.html) - Has every permutation of JP/US and PC/PS2 except US PC. Great delivery speed, accepts lots of payment methods and ubercheap shipping, though.

• GameStop (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B646200A) - The game itself is cheap in comparison and comes with the OST free. However they accept very few payment methods (not even PayPal!) and their shipping costs are nothing short of extortionate. In addition they require you to fax them your latest card statement, and claim there may/will be unmentioned tolls, taxes and/or tariffs to bother with after you order it.

• EBGames (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B646200A) - Exactly the same site as GameStop, really. I don't mean that the two share similar points, I mean that the two pretty much are the same site, with different logos.

• Toys R Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2319274&cp) - Don't sell PC Games that I can see. In addition, I can't see their international shipping abilities. It's possible they don't actually ship outside of America.

• Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_/102-8879824-9795352?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Phantasy+Star+Universe&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go) - Doesn't ship Phantasy Star Universe outside of America. Not an option.

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[Telex]

As someone from the UK I also will be looking to import the PC version of PSU. I normally use http://www.dvdboxoffice.com for my imports as they offer free delivery. However for the PC version of PSU they list the release date to be November 30th which is after the UK release which may be an error but as dvdboxoffice is based in Canada maybe this date is due to having to add the French language option.

Another option is http://www.videogamesplus.ca/ who list the release date to be 24th October. I have never used them before so can't say what level of service they provide. It would be good to have another option.

[Mikaga]

Phew! For a moment I thought this topic would go dead on arrival http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Video Games Plus looks like a nice place. It's worth noting that the shipping (which the shipping section (http://www.videogamesplus.ca/shipping.php) claims is normally $6.99) is $13.99 for this game for some reason. This doesn't mean all that much though. The total for the game would be £35, and with about 12 days to go I'm becoming increasingly tempted to go with that, especially as they have a wide selection of payment methods.

They don't detail their shipping details in the slightest though - besides "arrival time should be anywhere from 1 to 14 business days". I would (optimistically?) expect this is simply to play it safe, however.

Edit: They also don't even mention import customs, something which is starting to scare me since apparently you need to pay VAT on cd-based media like this.

Edit2: It's not looking good at all. YesAsia (http://www.yesasia.com/) offers both free shipping *and* free VAT payment (http://us.yesasia.com/help/topic.aspx?lang=en&topicId=779). It's just a pity they don't sell PC Phantasy Star Universe!

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[AnamanaAU]

http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?currency=AUD&cPath=52_98&products_id=11798
I'm going with this.

Friends have said they've recieved imports within a week from here. Shipping to australia.

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[AnamanaAU]

http://mightyjustice.net/jubei/stuff/psu-order.jpg
Imported for the price it will be on release here. Bargain!

[Mikaga]

Import fees/taxes/tolls/whatever are calculated when the product arrives in the country and charged to the buyer. Might be an idea to keep a little extra cash on hand just in case you're charged on delivery.

From what I've been able to read, UK customers with plenty of experience buying from Video Games Plus claim their orders are rarely ever stopped by customs and thus rarely ever hit by such taxes. Knowing that I'll probably go ahead and order from them too.

The trouble (for the UK at least) is that if you do get "caught out", you'll have to pay VAT, so suddenly that £37 order is now £44. Not terrible, but considering you'd be able to order the EU game from Amazon or GamePlay for £25 with free shipping, it makes the difference that much more. It also might prevent you from being delivered the game if fees are required and nobody is home on delivery.

It's worth noting that there are a couple of websites that pay necessary import taxes for you - the two that I know of are MovieTyme (http://www.movietyme.com/) and YesAsia (http://global.yesasia.com/help/topic.aspx?topicId=886). Unfortunately neither list PC Phantasy Star Universe.

[Mikaga]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/mikaga/psu/ordered.png

"You know you're overexcited when..." http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Reeve]

is anyone aware if PSU on the xbox 360 is going to be region free? this is the only thing that really bothers me, dont want to order a game i cannot play http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

would it be worth asking sega themselves or would i never get a response?

[krika]

good topic, this should be sticky http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[ShurikenShino]

I preordered from http://www.videogamesplus.ca/ aswell a week or so ago http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I doubt PSU is region free, I can't back that up with any evidence or anything but only the really popular games like COD2 and GRAW are multi regional.

[Reeve]

On 2006-10-12 03:35, ShurikenShino wrote:
I preordered from http://www.videogamesplus.ca/ aswell a week or so ago http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I doubt PSU is region free, I can't back that up with any evidence or anything but only the really popular games like COD2 and GRAW are multi regional.



yet there are a lot of not so popular games on that site that are region free, also i cant remember who it was but someone said all of segas current xbox 360 titles that he knew of were region free

really its anybodies guess...

[Melora]

Importmadness.com has it, so I'm considering importing from there. I'm just concerned about customs... I don't want to have to pay about £20 extra just to have it a month early. Argh I'm so confused!

[Mitz]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4999/porderho8.jpg

n.n;;

[SabZero]

Which shop is it, Rizeru?

[Xx3of19xX]

On 2006-10-12 03:47, Reeve wrote:


On 2006-10-12 03:35, ShurikenShino wrote:
I preordered from http://www.videogamesplus.ca/ aswell a week or so ago http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

I doubt PSU is region free, I can't back that up with any evidence or anything but only the really popular games like COD2 and GRAW are multi regional.



yet there are a lot of not so popular games on that site that are region free, also i cant remember who it was but someone said all of segas current xbox 360 titles that he knew of were region free

really its anybodies guess...



That would be me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Like I mentioned before, all of Sega of America's titles have been playable on PAL systems so far: Condemned, Full Auto, and Chromehounds.
I don't see why they'd want to change that trend with PSU.
The only problem I see is that you might not be able to actually play the game online before it comes out in Europe. You have to get the Guardians License from the Marketplace. So until the License is available in your region's Marketplace, you'll be out of luck unless you want to play the game online with another Gamertag. I might actually see myself doing that if needed, as the online portion doesn't have any Achievements.

You guys will be the first to know once I get the game.

[AnamanaAU]

Now my order is processing, awesome.

[Cojiro]

I've heard that videogamesplus.ca mark that the parcel they send you is a gift worth over £20 to avoid extra charges at customs. You don't even have to ask ^_^

I ordered from there last night and got my paypal reciept, but in "Order history" it says "You have not yet made any purchases."

That happen to anyone else?
Eeesh I'm all excited now.



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[Cojiro]

On 2006-10-12 03:59, Melora wrote:
Importmadness.com has it, so I'm considering importing from there. I'm just concerned about customs... I don't want to have to pay about £20 extra just to have it a month early. Argh I'm so confused!



I ordered from there once. They charged my card imediatly and never sent me anything. Months later after chasing them up with e-mail that never got replys (There's no address or telephone number on the site) I reported them and got the money back.

[Jonasan]

I'm not sure if this is reliable but HMV(www.hmv.co.uk) are supposedly selling PSU on 26/10/06 for the 360 version and on the 27th for the PC/PS2 versions. What do you guys think about this?

[AnamanaAU]

On 2006-10-12 23:44, Jonasan wrote:
I'm not sure if this is reliable but HMV(www.hmv.co.uk) are supposedly selling PSU on 26/10/06 for the 360 version and on the 27th for the PC/PS2 versions. What do you guys think about this?


Too late, dont care.

[Reeve]

On 2006-10-12 23:44, Jonasan wrote:
I'm not sure if this is reliable but HMV(www.hmv.co.uk) are supposedly selling PSU on 26/10/06 for the 360 version and on the 27th for the PC/PS2 versions. What do you guys think about this?



thanks, might have a look at that, they probably got their dates wrong or something though

heard the delivery time when using HMV is damn slow aswell
hmm...

edit: emailed them, it says they have a 48 hour response time so i will know soon enough i guess..



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[drakkula]

http://www.videogamesplus.ca

i pre-ordered psu kinda 2 weeks ago.....order been processed is my current status......

I got that pre-order now pay later(i cant remember the proper name=]) but it means i will just be charged when the game is shipped.....

I've e-mailed them twice so far and got replies on the same days.....

i'd say it's the safest/quickest way for importers to go....

dont know anything about taxes though......

UK here, =]

[McLaughlin]

On 2006-10-11 17:28, Telex wrote:
As someone from the UK I also will be looking to import the PC version of PSU. I normally use http://www.dvdboxoffice.com for my imports as they offer free delivery. However for the PC version of PSU they list the release date to be November 30th which is after the UK release which may be an error but as dvdboxoffice is based in Canada maybe this date is due to having to add the French language option.


It's just an error. No one here except Quebec cares about French >_>

[Mikaga]

On 2006-10-12 23:18, Cojiro wrote:
I've heard that videogamesplus.ca mark that the parcel they send you is a gift worth over £20 to avoid extra charges at customs. You don't even have to ask ^_^

I ordered from there last night and got my paypal reciept, but in "Order history" it says "You have not yet made any purchases."

That happen to anyone else?
Eeesh I'm all excited now.
This is from the FAQ page on VideoGamesPlus:


Question : Why am I getting a payment confirmation from Paypal but my order doesn't appear in my history?

Answer : If you get an email confirming sent payment we did receive the payment and the order will be processed. The order does not appear in your history and you will not get any auto email confirmation when you order ships because you did not complete the order process. To ensure that you complete the order correctly make sure to click the "click here to continue" link on paypal after your payment is sent otherwise we will not fully receive your order for our records and it will not appear in your account history.

[Ein]

i preoderer mine from http://www.videogamesplus.ca a few days ago, and now my oder status says "Preorder Processing"

but somehow i got a bad feeling about the US PC/PS2 release date may get shafted...

also this is my first post here, greetings and hope all we importers can play&enjoy PSU soon!

ps.sorry for my bad english through, its not my native language

[Eviltaru]

On 2006-10-13 05:13, drakkula wrote:
http://www.videogamesplus.ca

i pre-ordered psu kinda 2 weeks ago.....order been processed is my current status......

I got that pre-order now pay later(i cant remember the proper name=]) but it means i will just be charged when the game is shipped.....

I've e-mailed them twice so far and got replies on the same days.....

i'd say it's the safest/quickest way for importers to go....

dont know anything about taxes though......

UK here, =]



Here the policies from them on TAX:

Export/Import Duties, Taxes, Brokerages Fees and Shipping

The user is responsible for all charges or taxes regarding the shipment of their item. By ordering or using any part of this site the user accepts these terms unconditionally. It is up to the user to determine if importing these goods is allowed / legal in their country as Videogamesplus.com, .ca is not responsible for opened or seized shipments at the destination country.

[Eviltaru]

There's Futureshop & Best Buy for pre-ordering the 360 version, but still again I am not sure if they do shipping worldwide!

[Mitz]

On 2006-10-12 05:13, SabZero wrote:
Which shop is it, Rizeru?



http://www.hmv.co.uk , was said before though.

[richie_027]

Im thinking about importing, but one thing worries me, how will I be able to pay for the the online game from the UK, even if they have them prepaid cards I dont want to have to import one every month. (im getting the PC version and dont have a 360 so cant just use MS points)

[Ein]

On 2006-10-13 11:22, richie_027 wrote:
Im thinking about importing, but one thing worries me, how will I be able to pay for the the online game from the UK, even if they have them prepaid cards I dont want to have to import one every month. (im getting the PC version and dont have a 360 so cant just use MS points)



IMO sega will accept visa/master card payments like
other MMORPGs

[Mitz]

On 2006-10-13 11:22, richie_027 wrote:
Im thinking about importing, but one thing worries me, how will I be able to pay for the the online game from the UK, even if they have them prepaid cards I dont want to have to import one every month. (im getting the PC version and dont have a 360 so cant just use MS points)



You're signing up for the same account, no matter which region you get (except JP)



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[richie_027]

should have made that a bit more clear, will I be able to use my credit card (from the UK) to pay for a guardians lisence on the US game?

[Ryudo]

It's worth oting that those import taxes only apply if the item costs more than $30 and some sites (such as dvdboxoffice.com) insure games for less than $30 allowing you to evade the import tax

[Mikaga]

I can't think anywhere would sell Phantasy Star Universe on launch for less than $30.

The UK customs (as far as I can see) involve the neet to pay VAT on goods purchased overseas over the value of £18 (about $32.50). For a £35 order this would mean a ~£7 charge payable by you on delivery. I've heard enough about VideoGamesPlus from UK buyers to suggest that customs (almost?) never takes notice of VideoGamesPlus purchases, and if the bit posted earlier about them sending the item to a warehouse in the UK first as "gift" is true, then this would explain it.

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On Payment:

Sega's billing service for English speakers is PlaySega. They will be using the same billing service as Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst.

From what I can gather, they accept Visa and Mastercard payment, and support for anything else is iffy. Even Visa Electron is not guaranteed to be accepted.

My advice to you would be to try what I did - sign up to PSO: Blue Burst. You get a "14 day free trial" but require your card to be authoised (a $1 check - it gets returned) in advance. If your card is accepted by this, then it will almost certainly be accepted for Universe. You also get a couple of weeks with Blue Burst to pass time if you so choose. Either way, be sure to cancel it before you're charged.

If the Blue Burst check doesn't accept your card, you've still got about 10 days to find some way to use a card that is accepted.

Better to get all this sorted now than to be surprised when your Universe order arrives.

[Cojiro]

I'm hoping universe has a free trial period. I signed up for a mastercard with my bank and sent all the forms back a few weeks ago. Still haven't heard anything from them...If it does have a trial period I'l have a little time to try and get one somewhere else.

My friend's being an arse. I need to run windows to play PSU but I own a mac. I can boot camp my new mac to run it but I need a windows CD. He won't let me borrow his so...Is there anyone I can ask about doing terribly illegal things to get a windows CD without getting banned for talking about said illegal things? (Even though everyone does it...)

[UniKoRn]

I just pre-ordered mine today, I also went with video games plus

[MoonSblaise]

As far as videogamesplus.ca goes, i pre-ordered like a month ago from them, and i heard about this having to pay for the courier service bla bla stuff so i emailed them and the next day they comfirmed that the way they deliver it i won't have to pay another penny http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif mwuahaha so no worries

[drakkula]

thanks mr. MoonSblaise......it was the only thing i was not sure about....=]

[Callous]

I also ordered from videogamesplus. They've been very good to me over the years.

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[XdarXideX]

I've been told that the US version on 360 will be region free.. and I've also found out for myself that the UK pricing of the GUARDIAN's license will be £6.99 per month. There will be a new payment feature integrated into the 360 dashboard by the looks of it too. Keep your eyes peeled boys and girls! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Thrash777]

I just preordered my 360 copy from Video Games Plus... I just hope now that it is region free, AND that I can get a Guardian License no problem and start playing soon! YAY! ^_^

[SabZero]

Thanks Rizeru! Preordered aswell ^_^

[DangerMuse]

Where are you all importing from?

I need to make a decision quick if I wanna be playing sometime next week.

Ty in advance!

[Nayte]

In the importing thread, it seems that most are importing from...
here: http://www.videogamesplus.ca/

You could also check the thread thats still on this page too.

[drakkula]

videogamesplus here..........5 dias to go =]

[Mitz]

Preordered it from videogamesplus.ca

[DangerMuse]

Sorry for being a blind idiot. <.<

Thanks for the replies guys, great help. Im looking into it now.

[Starshape]

hmm I don't get it... can you play ntsc games on a pal console?

[DangerMuse]

I'll be playing the PC version which is region-free.

I decided to go with videogamesplus.ca, as well.

Thanks again.

[Cojiro]

No, unless you have an US or chipped console, you can't play a US game.

[Cojiro]

Getting pretty psyched! Got a confirmation e-mail for my new computer today and only five days till PSU!
I was hoping they'd change the damn system to acept UK cards like Solo and Maestro though...Even paypal would be better. Better hope I get that damn credit card.

[Ullias]

I think im going to wait until I hear for certain what payment methods they will accept before I order im not really that worried about ending up having to wait until the uk release.

[Lovejuice]

I've stumbled on a bit of a dilemma. I will be in the States in the initial days of November through some work trip - do I import and play for a few days, but risk it being delayed for a few days and costing me extra $$ and missing out the few meager days I would gain, or just wait and buy it in the States and save some dollars and avoid import tax? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

However, if I were to import, chalk up another "A+++ WOULD BUY AGAIN" for Videogamesplus.

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[XdarXideX]

Ullias - It's based on Marketplace, but uses a credit card system instead of us having buying Microsoft points to use. When PSU s out you go to the Marketplace, then go to Game Downloads, then All Games and find Phantasy Star Universe. It will open the Guide like a download would, and it will have the membership option there where you select to pay monthly for the game and it will confirm your credit card number.

For this reason, I am waiting for the EU version even if the US version is Region free. If paying monthly through the Dashboard is the only way to play, then the option won't show up on the UK Marketplace until the EU release. BTW, it appears to be only £6.99 per month to play in the UK. Bargain!!

[Mikaga]

£6.99 is something like $12.99 US Dollars.

Yet they only pay $9.99 a month.

If we get really lucky, whether you pay pounds or dollars is determined by the region of your game. If so, UK'ers who import would save ~24% on the monthly fee as well!

[Nayte]

£6.99!? damn....thats the cheapest monthly fee for a good/popular online game I've ever seen.

[XdarXideX]

Mikaga it doesn't matter really when you consider the wage difference for the US. We're not getting screwed it's just how our economy works. £6.99 is way cheaper than I was hoping for, and it's an awesome price for an online RPG. It could have been £9.99.

Remember though, that's only what I saw. It could go up or down but I gaurantee you the GUARDIANS license will be available through the Dashboard at a monthly fee.

EDIT: BTW, like I said the payment details will be region specific and since we wont get the game here for another month, I highly doubt the payment option will even be online in the UK Marketplace til Nov 24th. Of course, you could sign up to a Silver USA account like many of us have, but there's no gaurantee your card will work based on a UK residence.



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[Mikaga]

Considering I'm a PC player, XBox Live accounts aren't even relevant for me, and same applies to all other PC players in here.

[XdarXideX]

Mikaga - Oh ok sorry. I assumed you were talking about the 360 version.

[drakkula]

I hope videogamesplus has enough copies for all of us=]
about the monthly fee....we are gonna pay the american fee, right? that is $9.99. In pounds this is something about 6pounds.....Do u guys think that's possible or SEGA will charge us the real value for the european version?

[Nayte]

I hope not. However, when i played Ragnarok Online, i was charged the fee in USD but thats a little different since i played iRO and not euRO

[Ullias]

On 2006-10-18 12:52, XdarXideX wrote:
Ullias - It's based on Marketplace, but uses a credit card system instead of us having buying Microsoft points to use. When PSU s out you go to the Marketplace, then go to Game Downloads, then All Games and find Phantasy Star Universe. It will open the Guide like a download would, and it will have the membership option there where you select to pay monthly for the game and it will confirm your credit card number.

For this reason, I am waiting for the EU version even if the US version is Region free. If paying monthly through the Dashboard is the only way to play, then the option won't show up on the UK Marketplace until the EU release. BTW, it appears to be only £6.99 per month to play in the UK. Bargain!!



thanks alot this is a great help http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Ullias]

On 2006-10-18 12:52, XdarXideX wrote:
Ullias - It's based on Marketplace, but uses a credit card system instead of us having buying Microsoft points to use. When PSU s out you go to the Marketplace, then go to Game Downloads, then All Games and find Phantasy Star Universe. It will open the Guide like a download would, and it will have the membership option there where you select to pay monthly for the game and it will confirm your credit card number.

For this reason, I am waiting for the EU version even if the US version is Region free. If paying monthly through the Dashboard is the only way to play, then the option won't show up on the UK Marketplace until the EU release. BTW, it appears to be only £6.99 per month to play in the UK. Bargain!!



thanks alot this is a great help http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Ullias]

On 2006-10-18 12:52, XdarXideX wrote:
Ullias - It's based on Marketplace, but uses a credit card system instead of us having buying Microsoft points to use. When PSU s out you go to the Marketplace, then go to Game Downloads, then All Games and find Phantasy Star Universe. It will open the Guide like a download would, and it will have the membership option there where you select to pay monthly for the game and it will confirm your credit card number.

For this reason, I am waiting for the EU version even if the US version is Region free. If paying monthly through the Dashboard is the only way to play, then the option won't show up on the UK Marketplace until the EU release. BTW, it appears to be only £6.99 per month to play in the UK. Bargain!!



thanks alot this is a great help http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Cojiro]

Three times? O_o

Anyway, on my videogamesplus order, it says pending. I guess that's cause the game isn't out yet. Everyone else got the same?
Thought I'd check up on that.

[Callous]

Nope. I had pending for one day, then it changed to processing.

[Cojiro]

Aw...no.

EDIT:
Wait, it says:
10/13/2006 Processing
10/13/2006 Pending

Read it the wrong way around. XD

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[Mikaga]

10/12/2006 Processing
10/12/2006 Pending

So same here. I doubt it'll change to anything else until the 24th/25th at which point it'll actually be processed and shipped. It'll then be updated with something like "10/25/2006 Shipped" and you'll be sent an e-mail for confirmation of this.

It doesn't seem as if there is any form of order tracking, so beyond that I don't know how (read: if) you can estimate the delivery date, beyond the "1-14 days" stated on the site.

[Lovejuice]

I have not seen courier shipping from Videogamesplus mentioned anywhere here. Out of curiosity, I asked Videogamesplus about international courier shipping via DHL to the UK, for any UK importers who feel they really must must must have PSU as soon as possible upon release and money is no object.


DHL Shipping is $29.99 to the UK on that title [*LJ note: this is the PSU PC version*]. If you want this option please do a preorder and mention DHL Shipping in the comments box. DHL shipping will take 2-3 days with tracking.

[krika]

On 2006-10-20 09:41, Lovejuice wrote:
I have not seen courier shipping from Videogamesplus mentioned anywhere here. Out of curiosity, I asked Videogamesplus about international courier shipping via DHL to the UK, for any UK importers who feel they really must must must have PSU as soon as possible upon release and money is no object.


DHL Shipping is $29.99 to the UK on that title [*LJ note: this is the PSU PC version*]. If you want this option please do a preorder and mention DHL Shipping in the comments box. DHL shipping will take 2-3 days with tracking.






Thx , ofc I'll preorder with DHL shipping.

[SabZero]

Be careful when importing with Couriers (as opposed to national mail systems) - if the customs stops your package, it might be complicated to retrieve it, because it's not going through the regular postal channels. This has happened to me once when I bought some craft books from Dover directly. I got a call from DHL saying I need to go to the airport and handle the clearing of the customs myself, or they would do it, for a charge (which they couldn't tell me how much, but my guess was it was more than 30eur, so more than the value of the order). Long story short, I spent the afternoon of that day clearing my package (and only through luck I was able to take it home that same day, since customs officials stop working at 16:00h). Man.

[Knight_of_MIA]

My first post on board - and a kind "Hello" from South of the North Sea http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I am enjoying this website for a long time (5 full years, maybe http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif since release of PSO EU DC Version ) but now as PSU´s on the track and I´m going to import the PC US Version I decided to finally create my own account here and take the chance to ask to find an answer to my concern.


2 weeks ago I also ordered via videogamesplus.ca. Never imported a game from them before but I just gave it a try.

I received the same answers when I was asking them by mail about the shipment details as all of you. Very Quick reply with kind of standardized answers though, but enough information to make me satisfied. I chosed to order PC US Version for me and PS2 US Version for a friend of mine in one shipment. For acceleration reasons I also chosed DHL Shipment.

Now my biggest concern is (I hope it won´t come true) that customs my sniff something fishy and take my colli item out. Just to be prepared for this case, what exactly happens at the customs ? Will there be a dedicated regional customs station, or will this be always the most nearby (major) airport ? How many Euros do you think may they charge accumulated ?

Let´s keep fingers crossed that everything will be clean. ~_~

[Callous]

Here (just north of you) it is about 40% of the price of the item+shipping and risk having to wait quite some time to get it. With DHL you can be almost guaranteed that it will be napped in customs as they declare it themselves on arrival. If I were you I'd cancel my order and make a new one with regular mail. It'll be a lot cheaper and might even end up getting to you faster. I never use couriers anymore. It is quite useless in a place like Northern Europe where our mail systems are so extremely efficient. Plus, better chance of it slipping through customs unnoticed.



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[Knight_of_MIA]

@Callous:

That´s bad news http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif How often did you find yourself in this situation - is it really almost guaranteed that DHL marks it at customs ?

[Mikaga]

I know the minimum you'll get slapped with in the UK is VAT, which is just under 20% extra. Knowing how things go wrong very fast, there can and will be more on top of that.

[Callous]

Knight: I only did it myself once, but as I understand it from the people I know that still use couriers like UPS and DHL, it is not almost guaranteed, but completely guaranteed. The good news is that you likely don't have as high VAT as we do. But, DHL will also slap on a fee for doing the customs check. Completely rough and shooting from the hip estimate would be that you can expect to pay around €20 in all, possibly more. And it's a lot more troublesome than normal post if you're not home when they come to deliver. But hey, maybe DHL operates differently in Germany.



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[Knight_of_MIA]

Callous & Mikaga:

Thanks for your replies. It seems I made a classical newbie-mistake by being too impatient... -_-

Anyhow I feel I should not cancel the order just now anymore (I hope my items will be shipped with the first wave of stock availability), or perhaps I have to learn my lesson once before following your recommendation. On top, it will be most certain that neither me nor my wife will be at home - or do they also deliver past 7pm working-days ?


Hm... seems like I have to take a deeper look into how DHL and customs deal in germany...

*still crossing fingers*

[Mikaga]

Not to irrelevantly bump the thread, but I expect this'll be used for all of us to say "I got mine today!".

Also, who'd be up for grouping up sometime around the start of October for an importer party?

[AnamanaAU]

I'm up for it, Mikaga. Should do it 2 weeks after the US launch, just so all the importers have it.

[SabZero]

Mikaga: Me too. Although I plan to follow the advice and play story mode first.

[Cojiro]

An importer/halloween party would be coo!

[krika]

Thx for the info Callous, btw where are you from?

[Nayte]

I'll be up for grouping up. Would be nice to start off knowing a few people.

[Callous]

On 2006-10-21 03:15, krika wrote:
Thx for the info Callous, btw where are you from?

No problem :) And Denmark.

[drakkula]

what about the UK? I've also ordered this DHL service for videogamesplus. Will I have to pay Vat, taxes at airport customs when the package gets here?
Does anyone know how much we can import without being taxed?
Shit....I dont know what to do now.....i mean....its not just about the money, but the time i will have to wait to play and also the chance(bad one) to have to go to the airport to pick it up =/

[Cojiro]

I think that if you have to pay VAT or TAX that the post office keeps it. You have to go to your local one and pay them the money.

Hopefully we won't have to pay anything, though.

I ordered normal shipping! I couldn't afford to have it DHLed

[Mikaga]

The quick of it is that apparently DHT, courier, etc. almost assures customs will take notice and slap you with VAT and probably a couple of other costs, and there's the possibility of delays *and* VideoGamesPlus charging a little extra for difficulties.

From a lot of what I've heard, standard delivery from VideoGamesPlus either never gets attacked by customs, or very very rarely does. I've also heard that for standard delivery they send it to a holding point in the UK first before mailing it to you, thus circumventing the "import buying" charges altogether.



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[drakkula]

I think i should email the guys at videogamesplus......the might be able to help me(us).......i read someone saying that we dont have to pay anything else apart from the game itself and the shipping.....its in this topic somewhere and the person who posted got this info fom videogamesplus.......but i dont know what kind of shipping this person has gone for.....so questions, questions, questions,

[krika]

On 2006-10-21 05:26, drakkula wrote:
what about the UK? I've also ordered this DHL service for videogamesplus. Will I have to pay Vat, taxes at airport customs when the package gets here?
Does anyone know how much we can import without being taxed?
Shit....I dont know what to do now.....i mean....its not just about the money, but the time i will have to wait to play and also the chance(bad one) to have to go to the airport to pick it up =/




I'll skip DHL service, like Callous wrote "It is quite useless in a place like Northern Europe where our mail systems are so extremely efficient.". I live in Sweden and i dont think it will take that many days to get the game here.

Anyway have anyone ordered from Videogames.ca before with normal shipping to europe, how long did it take?

I know it vary alot depending on where in europe you live, but i just wanted to know.



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[Callous]

I've ordered several times, and it's been about 4-5 business days. I feel quite hopeful about getting it Friday or Saturday with normal shipping.

[Knight_of_MIA]

Hi all,

as I said I personally think it might be too late for canceling and reordering as I believe I will be the last in the order processing row then. I will take the risk now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

- Drakkula:
I cannot give you any special recommendations but to listen to the statements from the more experienced importers. If you feel to cancel only the DHL shipment, go ahead. It might be by any means more safe to avoid customs problems and extra costs, but may implicit more confusion on the order you made.

Anyway I wish both of us good luck - independently how you do decide now.


Considering the idea of an "importers´ party":
Great one! Though I will surely go within offline mode the first days we can arrange a come-together thereafter. But please keep in mind that I also have to care for "my" german-speaking PSU Community as per my signature, but hey... why don´t we play together in some special english-speaking groups ? Gives me the opportunity to train my english and you can profit by getting used to some german, if you don´t mind. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[drakkula]

ive just emailed videogamesplus....its 9:50am in Canada now...I hope they work on saturdays otherwise i will just get a reply on monday.....i will let u guys know what they say about this shipping thing as soon as they email me back

party? where? im there!!!! =]

[SabZero]

Hey, another german. I'm german too, I "just" live in Portugal. I also have the same user name on MIA forums.

[Callous]

I just got a reply from them on an email I wrote two days ago, so don't get your hopes up. Guess they're really busy at the moment.

[DangerMuse]

I've imported games for years now to the US (North Americal, Canada, Japan) to the UK and have never had to wait longer than 3-4days via a courier service. You just gotta make sure you'll be at home around the expected delivery date, as that is where things can get a bit tricky.

Also, living in the UK, I'll get taxed to hell <.<



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[Knight_of_MIA]

Customs declaration is right before the delivery of the goods homewards. Thus, when I´m not at home at the supposed delivery date I have to collect that item the next day at the nearest bigger post office (city´s main office). Payment for VAT in case customs checked the item goes via that post office too.

This is the Info I just received from a friend of mine. Maybe elsewhere in europe it might be a different handling, though I hardly believe there are really any huge differences.

@SabZero:
Hi there. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Sorry I can´t remember about you right now - but you may feel welcome to draw a few lines in the mia board whenever you like to http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Mikaga]

I'm up for it, Mikaga. Should do it 2 weeks after the US launch, just so all the importers have it.
Sounds cool. So sometime around the 7th of November? That's a Tuesday... maybe the weekend before or after that.

[AnamanaAU]

Make sure you take time into consideration. I'm in the +9.5 timezone.

[Thrash777]

Who is importing which versions? Cos I ordered the 360 version from videogamesplus.ca but now I'm concerned about region-locking...

[Mikaga]

By the sound of it, most of us are importing PC.

Guess you've gotta cross your fingers with the region-locking, unless you're prepared to wait a couple of days extra before ordering in order to get confirmation from the ASAP importers.

[drakkula]

this what videogamesplus has to say about the subject:


"First of all, we ship items DHL everyday and we mark single game shipments as $20.00CAN and as a toy and they usually slip right through customs.

I've never personally got any complaints about custom taxes. As for safer the airmail way could arrive quick as usaul (4-7 days) or take long or get lost and it can't be tracked.

It's up to you."

I've gone for DHL shipment........now i have to make sure I'm(or someone else) is at home to collect psu!!!

I hope this help u guys!

[Mikaga]

Ouch, lost. That's a scary thought >.<

Interesting conflict of view we've got concerning VGP's DHL shipping. It's either never caught, or always caught.

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-12 03:59, Melora wrote:
Importmadness.com has it, so I'm considering importing from there. I'm just concerned about customs... I don't want to have to pay about £20 extra just to have it a month early. Argh I'm so confused!

I pre-ordered from Importmadness, but I've never tried them before. Can anyone give any feedback?

[drakkula]

hum......about importmadness....someone in this same topic says something about them....if im not wrong its not good stuff man.......u should go trought this whole topic and check it out.....

[Lovejuice]

I have pre-ordered from Videogamesplus and requested the DHL shipping service. I will let you folks know how it goes.

As far as Importmadness, I have heard nothing but bad things about them. Namely lax customer support, ridiculous delivery times, and general suckiness. Do not be fooled in to thiking that the .co.uk domain means they are UK based, they are not. They are infact Canada based. You can find a plethora of customer comments (complaints generally) via a quick Google search.

[Knight_of_MIA]

On 2006-10-22 03:56, drakkula wrote:

...

As for safer the airmail way could arrive quick as usaul (4-7 days) or take long or get lost and it can't be tracked.

...



You did help me out, thanks drakkula. I ordered 2 games at once - so I will keep on DHL´ing and prepare myself of being spotted. I will let you know.

Nonetheless better than experiencing my items getting lost even it might be a 0.01% - thing. This happened to me once....


As for the in-game importer´s party:
what about 5th of november at about 1 or 2pm gmt (I live in the +1/+2gmt time zone depending of summer/wintertime). Hope that´s okay for our australian friend.

But please don´t expect great conversations from my side. I feel my english is more or less.... average... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


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[Mikaga]

Hehe, I was going to suggest a similar date, maybe 2~4 hours later, though. 1pm GMT is way too early in the morning for Australians ^.^

[Callous]

On 2006-10-22 04:36, Mikaga wrote:
Interesting conflict of view we've got concerning VGP's DHL shipping. It's either never caught, or always caught.
Yes, seems like it's very different from country to country.

[Nash]

I'm in the UK, and importing the US PS2 version. Ordered it from Gamestop, and last thing I got from them came by UPS and took 3 days, so should have it by next weekend hopefully!

November 5th could be a good meet-up day, Halloween decorations would still be up and it's Guy Fawke's Day in the UK http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Knight_of_MIA]

On 2006-10-22 10:36, Mikaga wrote:
Hehe, I was going to suggest a similar date, maybe 2~4 hours later, though. 1pm GMT is way too early in the morning for Australians ^.^



Ehm... *thinking* ... isn´t Australia these 9.5 hours from GMT ahead ? So when we start at about noon it´s already evening in Australia ?

Or do you want him to play at night ? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Cojiro]

If we got enough people, wouldn't it be possible to go for the entire day? If I have the day off work I can do an all nighter, or something...
That is if I don't need a credit card for the free trial >_O

[Mikaga]

Ehm... *thinking* ... isn´t Australia these 9.5 hours from GMT ahead ?

Gah! I meant Americans. This is what I get for talkin' with JubeiS on IRC while posting.

[AnamanaAU]

Australia is like +8~+10 i think

[Mikaga]

Exactly. This means there's quite the gap between Australia and the most western of America.

Looking into it (Wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Standard_Time_Australia)) we're looking at UTC+10 for the most eastern of Australia (AEST). This combined with the UTC-8 of the most western of America (PST) creates an 18-hour gap.

This of course is harsh to work with when considering an importer party. 8am for PST would be 2am on Monday for AEST, which clearly won't work.

The kicker is, America and Canada aren't importers, so unless I've missed someone out, the most western of importers would be the UK and (if applicable) Portugal, which are UTC. Thus there'd only be a 10-hour gap. This would allow for the party to start at, say, 10am in the UK and 8pm in Australia, which'd be plenty of time for everyone.

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-22 06:52, Lovejuice wrote:
I have pre-ordered from Videogamesplus and requested the DHL shipping service. I will let you folks know how it goes.

As far as Importmadness, I have heard nothing but bad things about them. Namely lax customer support, ridiculous delivery times, and general suckiness. Do not be fooled in to thiking that the .co.uk domain means they are UK based, they are not. They are infact Canada based. You can find a plethora of customer comments (complaints generally) via a quick Google search.


Thank you very much for that- I cancelled straight away, and pre-ordered at Videogamesplus instead. I didn't see any option for delivery methods, so it should be here within 1-14 days.

[krika]

On 2006-10-23 13:08, Feelmirath wrote:

Thank you very much for that- I cancelled straight away, and pre-ordered at Videogamesplus instead. I didn't see any option for delivery methods, so it should be here within 1-14 days.



Just to let you know, if you want DHL shipping then you have to write it in the comment box when you order. If you wanna change your order to DHL then send them a mail [email protected].



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[Diablohead]

When I got doa4 from VGP it arrived in around 6-7 days with the standard postage, there was a problem so I had to send it back, the total time for it to get back to them and for me to get a replacement was 2 weeks. I have to say thats pretty fast from canada to south england.

Got my psu from these guys also, I trust them and hope to see my package saturday at the latest http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

*big panic edit* Upon checking my adress it seems somehow they got sent my old living adress even though I updated BEFORE confirming to pay for the item, damnit hope its not in the mail already because I moved home and im over 250 miles or so away :/



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[Mikaga]

If they haven't updated your order status it's not been sent (check your "My Account" section on the site, or your e-mail. This won't work if you forgot to click "Finalise" at the end of the PayPal purchase, but your order was made - you just can't see it.)

Mine hasn't been sent, so I expect yours wouldn't be. I also expect the absolute earliest they could send it out would be 9 hours from now. I expect you could send a mail to [email protected] to notify of the change in address.

[Callous]

Same happened to me, Diablo. I emailed them and they changed it no problem. It did take them 5 days to respond, though :| But that's not normal!

[Cojiro]

AUGH. My mother is a retard. She told the people who called me about my credit card that I had lied and that I no longer lived at that address. (I recently moved out but applied before so...complecations) Thus, I was declined, thus I can't pay to play PSU online as they only take visa or mastercards.

I sorted everything out around this >_O I managed to find a site I could order the game from with paypal, I got a new computer and a loan...

If anyone knows ANY way around this or has a visa or mastercard and would be willing to let me use it for my PSU registration in exchange for the full amount in cash (It's only till I get my own card...£7 a month and I'll give you enough for six months in cash plus extra for the privilage)please please please let me know >_< I can't believe it all went fine until the very end.
Actually, I refuse for it to fuck up now. Augh.

</rant of sadness>

[Thrash777]

Am I the only one here concerned about region issues!? <_< >_> I'm importing the 360 version from our friends at VGP... ^_^

[Diablohead]

You know that the 360 version has a VERY high chance that it's region locked right?

[AnamanaAU]

Yeah, I wouldn't have imported if I wasn't buying for PC. Of course a console game is going to be region locked.

[Mikaga]

Just making sure this thread doesn't get lost before the first of us can say "Wewt it's here!!!".

[Neleh]

Just wanted to say hi, I have pre-ordered my and my husbands copies from lik-sang.com, just waiting for them to ship, I can't wait hehe. Good to see other importers here.

[Mikaga]

Knew I had something useful to add to my last post - "Mine's not been shipped yet, waah." http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-23 13:49, krika wrote:
Just to let you know, if you want DHL shipping then you have to write it in the comment box when you order. If you wanna change your order to DHL then send them a mail [email protected].

Brilliant! Thanks for that, I should have the game twice as fast now n_n

[Fallows]

Hi guys,

I'd just like to add a couple of positive comments for anyone from the UK with a US Xbox360 pre-order...

1 - All Xbox360 Sega games have been region free to date
2 - The Guardian Licence has been available for the last 6 days on UK marketplace now for £6.99 pounds sterling.

Why else would they be offering the UK Guardian Licence 5 weeks prior to UK launch? Lik Sang are also reporting that the game runs on their PAL Xbox360.

I have my order with VG+ along with DHL 2-3 day delivery and my GL already paid for. I really can't wait. Here's hoping they got their shipment today unlike the major US retailers. ><

[Ein]

Anyone heard any words from videogamesplus yet? My order status still says Processing
hmmmm...

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 06:36, Ein wrote:
Anyone heard any words from videogamesplus yet? My order status still says Processing
hmmmm...



Same. But it is still pretty early in America so.

[DangerMuse]

I'm the same <.<

[Nayte]

Mine says shipped...

...OK not really

[Reeve]

i ordered from videogamesplus and mine is also still processing, i did preorder mine quite late though, only about a week ago but id imagine they would still have enough in stock for me to get one dispatched by the release date

[Knight_of_MIA]

... still waiting for shipment... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

US PC Version, btw.

[Callous]

I have extremely bad news for PC and PS2 importers. In case you haven't noticed already, the option to buy a Guardian License does not show up if you've registered an account with an EU address/credit card. It does show up if you have a US account (I checked). This means we won't get an option to buy a Guardian License until November 24., and even then we won't know if we can play our US version with an EU purchased License. Since there's no option for non-Americans to buy Visa gift cards, it looks like we're shit out of luck.

And no, even if you create a "fake" US account you're not allowed to sign up with your EU card.

[quote]If you made a mistake by previously choosing a country not associated with your card, please contact Customer Support to have it fixed at: http://phantasystaruniverse.com/support_faq.php</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

This.really.sucks.



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[DangerMuse]

lol pwned http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif(

[Callous]

Utterly pwned :| I should just cancel my preorder while there's still time, but honestly I'm at the point now where I'm willing to risk having to pay for the game again next month just so I can play it offline until then.

I have to say .... fark.

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 07:40, Callous wrote:
I have extremely bad news for PC and PS2 importers. In case you haven't noticed already, the option to buy a Guardian License does not show up if you've registered an account with an EU address/credit card. It does show up if you have a US account (I checked). This means we won't get an option to buy a Guardian License until November 24., and even then we won't know if we can play our US version with an EU purchased License. Since there's no option for non-Americans to buy Visa gift cards, it looks like we're shit out of luck.

And no, even if you create a "fake" US account you're not allowed to sign up with your EU card.

[quote]If you made a mistake by previously choosing a country not associated with your card, please contact Customer Support to have it fixed at: http://phantasystaruniverse.com/support_faq.php</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>

This.really.sucks.



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Omfg If this is true, Sega does really think that Europe is a shithole.

[Pixels]

I must not be that good at english... Could someone explain that again? Like explain it in a way so a five year old would understand :/? Is there no way for an importer like myself? (I live in Sweden and havent got the game yet or registered @ playsega) to start playing online until 24th of november now? I thought that would work..

[DangerMuse]

You need a US credit card associated with a US billing address.

[Pixels]

:/ jesus christ why? So if i register a sega billing account it wont work until 24th of november with an EU one?

[kassy]

We've been pwned indeed, ah well.

Nice dream while it lasted http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Diablohead]

Why can't sega announce stuff like this BEFORE retail, my god.

All we need to do now is hope the US version of the pc game even works with a UK account... :/

[Ein]

OMG what about AU importers? We dont have something like "Sega of Australia" here...

[Pixels]

So there actually is a possibility i just wasted 60$ on something that wont work at all :S? If thats so ill go and cry..

[Feelmirath]

Heh, my status for Videogamesplus is also processing. I wouldn't worry about it though, they'll probably ship the games for an overnight delivery.

And @ Diablohead- they should accept a US version with a UK account since the game isn't region locked and the servers are linked anyway.

[BrandonBa2]

Lik-Sang just got shut down if anyone ordered from there.

[Diablohead]

On 2006-10-24 08:01, Feelmirath wrote:
Heh, my status for Videogamesplus is also processing. I wouldn't worry about it though, they'll probably ship the games for an overnight delivery.

And @ Diablohead- they should accept a US version with a UK account since the game isn't region locked and the servers are linked anyway.


This is what I hope and always thought would happern, but you never know 100% with stuff like this, no sign of psu at all on my playsega account.

[Feelmirath]

I find it funny that people are worrying about this issue with UK cards when the billing account hasn't even been officially announced.

Give it time people, it might not be fully functional yet.

[Fallows]

That's not very nice of Sega. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I'd be outraged if I was a PC or PS2 gamer. Joining in a month/two months late isn't going to be fun.

I'm angry at the one day delay even. I just hope the 360 version is region free and my 'already paid for' GL works.

[Neleh]

Urgh I ordered from Lik-Sang, but I guess if I cant get a account it doesn't really matter. Gutted though, I wanted to be playing it this weekend.

[Pixels]

On 2006-10-24 08:07, Feelmirath wrote:
I find it funny that people are worrying about this issue with UK cards when the billing account hasn't even been officially announced.

Give it time people, it might not be fully functional yet.



What do you mean not officially announced? Aren't there people already playing it now who has signed up? Or might the billing service come up later for us importers to?

[Diablohead]

Sega never announced it, but they also never declined it. Sega know theres hundreds of importers doing the same thing and they kept their mouth shut? i lol'd at bad management.

[Feelmirath]

www.playsega.com

Notice how the PSU subscription is where the Blue Burst one is supposed to be. I highly doubt it works at all.

Also, if they were going to work on a billing system, they'd obviously make a US card work with it first, since that's where it's being released first, Like I said, wait until they actually announce something.

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[DangerMuse]

Any of you guys got American relatives? >.>

Lets wait a while and see...but right now it looks like thats the only way to go.

[Pixels]

On 2006-10-24 08:12, Feelmirath wrote:
www.playsega.com

Notice how the PSU subscription is where the Blue Burst one is supposed to be. I highly doubt it works at all.

Anybody tried registering with a US card yet?



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Damn man your actually right! I pray to god thats the reason. You made me feel alittle more calm atleast. I haven't gotten the game yet so now i guess it's just a wating game.

[Neleh]

Yeah, I was playing FFXI online well before the EU release, I had a US copy of the game and a EU credit card, hopefully Sega will come round to this idea too, my pre-order is gone from Lik-Sang anyhow, I wonder how this ruling with affect other websites that import.

[Pixels]

I was also playing FFXI before EU like you.. So lets hope they sort this out soon.

[Diablohead]

no psu image at all on playsega.com, sure it snot a regional thing like the official website?

[Feelmirath]

Shouldn't be- looks like they're having problems getting the system up, since it's overlapping the BB account system (and it shouldn't, since people are still going to play the game after PSU's out).

[DangerMuse]

Dunno, but if you click on the BB icon, it takes you to the PSU account page.

Maybe the web admins @ SEGA HQ are fukking with our heads >.>

[kassy]

On 2006-10-24 08:12, Feelmirath wrote:
www.playsega.com

Notice how the PSU subscription is where the Blue Burst one is supposed to be. I highly doubt it works at all.

Also, if they were going to work on a billing system, they'd obviously make a US card work with it first, since that's where it's being released first, Like I said, wait until they actually announce something.

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Well it's not that far fetched that sega would do this, after all importers are "evil" we get the game earlier and cheaper than the developer wants us to http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

It's simply not giving the option of buying a PSU subscription for people with an EU credit card billing address, I doubt they going to change it until the EU is released.

A PSU EU gaurdian's lisence is also goin to be more expensive than a US GL, Sega probably doesn't want EU players paying for the cheaper alternative.

I'm as burned as the next importer, but I won't be fretting or bitching about it on the forums, an extra month isn't too much to wait.



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[Diablohead]

On 2006-10-24 08:25, DangerMuse wrote:
Dunno, but if you click on the BB icon, it takes you to the PSU account page.

Maybe the web admins @ SEGA HQ are fukking with our heads >.>


Still leads me to psobb, just to let people know.

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 08:26, kassy wrote:
, an extra month isn't too much to wait.



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Wow that is the worst thing that could happen to me.

[Lovejuice]

Well, shit.

Oh well. Good thing I haven't actually paid for my order and can still cancel the thing, just in the event of something like this happening.

If there is any kind of 'fix' that appears within the week or sooner, I will just buy PSU next week when I visit the US through work. Otherwise.. hmm. November 24th here we come?

An idea of mine is to perhaps buy a 'Visa Gift Card' thing once I am in the US next week, and then use it in conjunction with a US Playsega account - this is of course if it is known by then if the gift cards will work with Playsega (I do know that you must provide a billing address when you buy one of these things, so I am not sure how it will work out). I may be possible to acquire multiple of these for other people if it comes to it.

I have friends in the US that would allow me to use their CC info if I made a US account - only I really would not wish to continue using this method beyond the initial month (even if I can buy 180+ days at once) until our local release. Just because I am a stubborn bastard that likes to manage his own things. But if you do have friends in the US, I guess now is the time to offer them much love in exchange for their plastic should this bizarre Sega ruling remain in place.



(as much as this is "omgsux" and causes immensely huge sadness within, a part of me is actually severely loling like a bitch on the inside at the irony of it all - especially if it remains this way)

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-24 08:26, kassy wrote:
Well it's not that far fetched that sega would do this, after all importers are "evil" we get the game earlier and cheaper than the developer wants us to http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

It's simply not giving the option of buying a PSU subscription for people with an EU credit card billing address, I doubt they going to change it until the EU is released.

A PSU EU gaurdian's lisence is also goin to be more expensive than a US GL, Sega probably doesn't want EU players paying for the cheaper alternative.

I'm as burned as the next importer, but I won't be fretting or bitching about it on the forums, an extra month isn't too much to wait.

If that's the case, how are people going to register on BB? The chances of it going down before GC are very low indeed.

[Neleh]

Are Sega releasing those game cards like you can get for WoW or Eq where you buy the card from a shop, and that is your monthly subscription? If so couldn't we import one of those too?

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 08:34, Neleh wrote:
Are Sega releasing those game cards like you can get for WoW or Eq where you buy the card from a shop, and that is your monthly subscription? If so couldn't we import one of those too?



Nope , only CC.

[DangerMuse]

This is still a little too early to be set in stone...

...*breathes*....











...meh

[Ein]

Just found this in Playsega's Support section:


In Europe:

Details of European pricing will be displayed when the game launches on Novemember 24th.


FUK they didnt even mention Australia...

[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 08:12, Feelmirath wrote:
www.playsega.com

Notice how the PSU subscription is where the Blue Burst one is supposed to be. I highly doubt it works at all.

Also, if they were going to work on a billing system, they'd obviously make a US card work with it first, since that's where it's being released first, Like I said, wait until they actually announce something.

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Feelmirath, I have both an EU and a US account. The US one is very much active and allows you to sign up for either BB or Universe, prices and all and all input for credit cards. It is READY. The EU one clearly states it won't even have a price until the EU launch. Do I need to take screenshots?

Without a US card or connections I don't see anyone going online this month on PS2/PC. You MIGHT be able to use your US version with an EU license from next month, but it is in no way guaranteed.

[Feelmirath]

For god's sake people, get a grip. Has anybody at all been able to get on the PSU US servers (besides those asked to join early)? No.



On 2006-10-24 08:40, Ein wrote:
Just found this in Playsega's Support section:


In Europe:

Details of European pricing will be displayed when the game launches on Novemember 24th.


FUK they didnt even mention Australia...


I think you're reading into that a bit much. Australia will be at the same time as Europe.

[Fallows]

That's nonsensical. I've already paid for my GL last week. £6.99 from Xbox Marketplace.

[Feelmirath]

If it was ready, then it would be announced and people would be able to register. But they can't.

[kassy]

On 2006-10-24 08:33, Feelmirath wrote:

If that's the case, how are people going to register on BB? The chances of it going down before GC are very low indeed.



Huh? EU players can still pay for BB, the option still comes up.

[Pixels]

Ok i happen to be extremley lucky and know a kind soul in the US. If this gets confirmed that we from EU are f**ed then he will help me.. however could someone who knows tell me what CC they accept?

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-24 08:48, kassy wrote:


On 2006-10-24 08:33, Feelmirath wrote:

If that's the case, how are people going to register on BB? The chances of it going down before GC are very low indeed.



Huh? EU players can still pay for BB, the option still comes up.


Heh, I should probably have gone as far as logging in XP

[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 08:47, Feelmirath wrote:
If it was ready, then it would be announced and people would be able to register. But they can't.

Man ...


To play Phantasy Star Universe online, you will need to purchase a subscription. Here is a list of the products available to you.

Phantasy Star Universe 30 Day Recurring Subscription (Plus 15 Bonus Days) - Click Here

Phantasy Star Universe 180 Day One-Time Subscription (Plus 30 Bonus Days) - Click Here


PHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE 30 DAY RECURRING SUBSCRIPTION (PLUS 15 BONUS DAYS)

You've registered for a PlaySEGA account, and you're now ready to purchase a Phantasy Star Universe subscription so that you can access the game servers.

This subscription product is a recurring option - you will be charged $9.99 per 30 days. Your first payment will be taken immediately.

Here's the good news - by signing up, you will get a bonus 15 days up front - that's 45 days until you're billed again!

To start your subscription, click 'Next'.

Note: You can cancel your subscription at any time. The bonus 15 days only applies to new subscribers.

[quote]

When you then click next, there is a full form for your credit card details and billing address. It's quite ready and you can sign up right now. I'm not hosting pictures just to prove this.

[DrizaSiegmund]

GHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGH! ! ! !

why graaaaagh? well, after looking at this thread i thought: "ooh, better check my email to see if my order has been shipped"..
So i go to Lik-Sang.com, AND GUESS WHAT! Their business conveniently closed down, on the day that my order was meant to be shipped!! DDDDDDD: how sinnister is that. Anyway im an Au gamer with a US NTSC Ps2 who needs another site to import from with immediate shipping!! D:

[Diablohead]

On 2006-10-24 08:56, Callous wrote:
[quote]
On 2006-10-24 08:47, Feelmirath wrote:
If it was ready, then it would be announced and people would be able to register. But they can't.

Man ...


To play Phantasy Star Universe online, you will need to purchase a subscription. Here is a list of the products available to you.

Phantasy Star Universe 30 Day Recurring Subscription (Plus 15 Bonus Days) - Click Here

Phantasy Star Universe 180 Day One-Time Subscription (Plus 30 Bonus Days) - Click Here


PHANTASY STAR UNIVERSE 30 DAY RECURRING SUBSCRIPTION (PLUS 15 BONUS DAYS)

You've registered for a PlaySEGA account, and you're now ready to purchase a Phantasy Star Universe subscription so that you can access the game servers.

This subscription product is a recurring option - you will be charged $9.99 per 30 days. Your first payment will be taken immediately.

Here's the good news - by signing up, you will get a bonus 15 days up front - that's 45 days until you're billed again!

To start your subscription, click 'Next'.

Note: You can cancel your subscription at any time. The bonus 15 days only applies to new subscribers.




When you then click next, there is a full form for your credit card details and billing address. It's quite ready and you can sign up right now. I'm not hosting pictures just to prove this.



You might have missed the point but sega have not posted outside the actual billing site about it being ready, also all people outside the US do NOT get this, we still only get blueburst.

[Thrash777]

On 2006-10-24 06:06, Fallows wrote:
Hi guys,

I'd just like to add a couple of positive comments for anyone from the UK with a US Xbox360 pre-order...

1 - All Xbox360 Sega games have been region free to date
2 - The Guardian Licence has been available for the last 6 days on UK marketplace now for £6.99 pounds sterling.

Why else would they be offering the UK Guardian Licence 5 weeks prior to UK launch? Lik Sang are also reporting that the game runs on their PAL Xbox360.

I have my order with VG+ along with DHL 2-3 day delivery and my GL already paid for. I really can't wait. Here's hoping they got their shipment today unlike the major US retailers. ><



Thank you soooo much for that! That reassures me! phew! ^_^

[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 09:02, Diablohead wrote:
You might have missed the point but sega have not posted outside the actual billing site about it being ready, also all people outside the US do NOT get this, we still only get blueburst.

Hehe, no I think you missed the point. Yes, we only get BB, but we also get the following statement when clicking "support" when logged in to an EU account saying:


How much does a GUARDIANS License cost?
A Guardian's License gets you access to the online world of PSU. PC and Playstation 2 users have the option of choosing between different subscription types when purchasing a Guardians License. Be sure to pick the option that is right for you!
In North America:

1) $9.99 per month recurring option, your account will be charged every 30 days. First time subscribers will be gifted with an additional 2 weeks free – that's 45 more days until you are billed again!
2) A one time charge of $49.99 for 180 days. At the end of the 180 day period, you'll need to head back and purchase another subscription. First time subscribers will be gifted 30 days up front – that's 210 days of Phantasy Star Universe (only 4.2 cents a day)!
In Europe:

Details of European pricing will be displayed when the game launches on Novemember 24th."

That makes it quite clear to me that we won't get an option to sign up before November 24.

And yes, Sega did spell "November" wrong.



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[Feelmirath]

The problem is Callous, nothing has been announced on the official forum about the billing accounts open. While they probably won't do a thing about it (having known Sega's idiocy for a good 4 years now), it's still not a good thing to assume. It's also not a good idea to register before it has been announced, in case there are unknown errors which could screw your account up.

I'm not really bothered about this problem if it really is the case. Although it cost a little more, I'll at least have the game on my lap as soon as the EU cards are accepted.

Either that, or I'll just attempt to bug somebody in America to use their card for the first month http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

EDIT: Hey Fallows, could you show me a link to where you got that information? I'd like to know where I could purchase one if at all possible.


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[Callous]

Hope springs eternal!

[riccola]

Hi http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

On xbox 360 PSU is region free ?

Can i play with PSU game US on ma xbox 360 PAL ?

Thanks!!

[Feelmirath]

PSU for the XBox 360 is region free, yes.

[Mikaga]

A couple of things are happening right now to try and fight this. I request (not that most of you would need the kindness of your hearts for this) that everyone in this topic perform the following two things:

• Post Here (http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=1866). It seems to be the biggest movement of despairing importers on the official game's boards.

• File a Query (http://phantasystaruniverse.com/support_contact.php) to the official website's "Contact Us" section. Be sure to include the following:

- For issue, "General Inquiry" or "Billing and Accounts" should suffice.
- Leave Game ID blank, since you can't get one.
- A working e-mail in case they decide to respond.
- In the message, include: How unfair it is to force dedicated players to effectively be banned for a month.
- In the message, include: How there is nothing wrong with importing and how there was no warning that importers would not be allowed.
- In the message, include: How there is really no reason to not allowing users the ability to play. It even costs them money!
- In the message, include: Try to be courteous and understandable. Angry letters won't help.

---

Neither of these passageways will create much of an impact really, but the best we can hope for is that the sheer number of messages of concern will force them to think twice about delaying people's rightful ability to play for another month.

[Callous]

I'm too busy drowning myself to sign petitions right now.

[DangerMuse]

/signed


Actually, I'm kinda pissed off now.

[Callous]

And the crappiness of this doesn't even end there. Let's say you do have a connection in the US willing to sign up for you. I have a couple myself, but ...


Your GUARDIANS License will be uniquely tied to the Game ID you used to initially purchase it, and cannot be shifted to a new Game ID

So, next month you'll want to start paying for it yourself, but no, your license is tied to the original Game ID, so unless you're willing to start all over with new characters, you're going to have to have your contact in the US pay for as long as you want to play PSU.

Messy.

Right, back to pounding my head against the wall.

[krika]

Yes this is insane...

[DangerMuse]

Everyone who has an issue with their billing system should repsond via this thread (http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=1866&start=25)

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-24 09:40, Callous wrote:
And the crappiness of this doesn't even end there. Let's say you do have a connection in the US willing to sign up for you. I have a couple myself, but ...


Your GUARDIANS License will be uniquely tied to the Game ID you used to initially purchase it, and cannot be shifted to a new Game ID

That's not a problem- you could change the credit card details of an account (Game ID) whenever you wanted in past PSO games. I can do this with my BB account now.

EDIT: Although this does mean that you would have to be in contact with a US card holder who really trusts you to enter their credit card details into your Game ID, or vice versa (telling your Game ID, username and password to them).



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[Callous]

That won't work since you can't use a card with a country of origin other than that of the account.

Ex:

1. Friend signs up a US account with his card now so you can play for a month.
2. November 24. you want to change your friend's card for your own on the account. FAIL. Your card is EU and the account is US.

[Nayte]

Looks like im canceling my Pre-order then if i cant play online when it arrives. I might as well just wait untill Novemeber.
I also dont see the payment options being changed because if you really want to play, you will wait another month and they know that, therefore they have no reason to change it.

[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-24 10:02, Callous wrote:
That won't work since you can't use a card with a country of origin other than that of the account.

Ex:

1. Friend signs up a US account with his card now so you can play for a month.
2. November 24. you want to change your friend's card for your own on the account. FAIL. Your card is EU and the account is US.

Wouldn't it have been made universal (like BB) by then? I'm no expert in the fields of Sega's brain, so that was a genuine question >_>;

[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 10:05, Nayte wrote:
I also dont see the payment options being changed because if you really want to play, you will wait another month and they know that, therefore they have no reason to change it.

I don't see it happening either. Realistically importers will account for a miniscule percentage of buyers and Sega can feel quite smug about ignoring their cries. At best this petition might get us some official statement included in their website FAQ about this not being possible because of [insert random corporate statement picked from a bucket at Sonic Team HQ].

Feelmirath: I have absolutely no faith that Sega will change their entire billing system they set up just to accomodate a few thousand importers (if there are even that many). Of course it's possible, but I will eat a hat (a marcipan one) if they do it.

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[Tycho]

On 2006-10-24 07:48, krika wrote:
Omfg If this is true, Sega does really think that Europe is a shithole.
You only just now realized that anyone outside of Japan and America is a third-rate world citizen? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Mikaga]

Matter of fact Sega give Europe some the best treatment out of any of these gaming companies. For example during their Dreamcast days they had global releases for plenty of stuff (most notably Sonic Adventure 2), and to date they keep their releases close. On the other hand look at groups like Square Enix, who delayed Final Fantasy XI by twelve months while making next to no product changes.

Also, my order status from VideoGamesPlus has changed exactly eight minutes ago:


Your order has been updated to the following status.

New status: Shipped

[Callous]

Not mine. WHY

[Nayte]

I hope mine doesnt change to 'Shipped' status before my cancelation goes through...

[Ein]

On 2006-10-24 10:38, Callous wrote:
Not mine. WHY


Same here:-?

[kassy]

On 2006-10-24 10:27, Tycho wrote:

On 2006-10-24 07:48, krika wrote:
Omfg If this is true, Sega does really think that Europe is a shithole.
You only just now realized that anyone outside of Japan and America is a third-rate world citizen? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif




Lol, ye, I mean Europe only got electricity just last week http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Pixels]

Mine is shipped to :S DAMN! I really hope this will be worked out or ill cry.

[Nayte]

Well crap, i e-mailed them about a cancelation 5mins ago and i just this second recieved an e-mail saying its been shipped... /sigh oh well, at least i can play offline/extra mode.

[Callous]

For you pepole that have it shipped already, was it DHL or regular post?



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[Pixels]

they just changed it to US only on the site ...

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 11:02, Pixels wrote:
they just changed it to US only on the site ...



Well that wont make it better...

[Deathcraze]

To be fair, you are always taking a risk importing a game, especially one that requires a online fee. There are tons of things that could go wrong, blocking IPs from certain countries, needing a credit card registered from the games imported region just to name a few.

I took a risk on expecting PSO Ep 3 to have a english language option on the JP release and got burned. Did I complain? No, because there was always a chance it could happen and I decided to take that risk and I have no one to blame but myself for taking such a risk. You will just have to suck it up and get on with life, Sega have no obligation to help anyone in anyway outside their official region of release and I daresay they will do nothing.

Thats not to say I agree with this policy, as I don't and I think it sucks for people who have already spent money on it, but it is well known that publishers don't like people importing games from outside their region and they often try to stop it any way they can.


Details of European pricing will be displayed when the game launches on Novemember 24th

I find it incredibly stupid that they are waiting for EU release to confirm the pricing details here.

[Mikaga]

For you pepole that have it shipped already, was it DHL or regular post?

Regular. If delivery takes as long as their supposed track record, I can expect it either Saturday or Monday-Wednesday.

Edit: Added the new subscribe issues to the topic's name. I don't think it's made the name unrecognisable.

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[Pixels]

It certainly wont.. but isnt that just Segas why of cowardly confirming what we have all feared? that we importers are screwed?

[chichiri99]

If they just accepted paypal that would solve everything at once >.<

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 10:46, Ein wrote:


On 2006-10-24 10:38, Callous wrote:
Not mine. WHY


Same here:-?



Mine havent change to shipped neither. I ordered the game pretty late so maybe that is why. DHL btw.

[Mikaga]

Yeah, I ordered weeks and weeks ago. I would expect they'd handle it in the order ordered.

That said, it seems like they're doing the PSU orders now. Might get to everyone else's within the next couple of hours.

[Reser]

Got mine shipped and i only orderd 2 days ago >_>, but i dont want it now i just read its a brick -_____- so lame went t cancel and its shipped -______- sucks I want to play now T_______T

[Darrell]

So if i get the US version of PSU for my 360 and it works (region free) will i be able to buy a licence from XBL for £6.99. Has anyone tried it yet ?

[Mikaga]

but i dont want it now i just read its a brick
I guess at least you can get Story Mode (and Extra Mode?) out of the way. And there are some dedicated efforts to saving importers in progress, so don't give up hope yet!


So if i get the US version of PSU for my 360 and it works (region free) will i be able to buy a licence from XBL for £6.99. Has anyone tried it yet ?
The subscription option is already available for users of European Xbox 360 Live, from what I've heard.

In addition, testers at Lik-Sang (rest in piece http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif ) have claimed that NA Phantasy Star Universe works in EU Xbox 360s, so it sounds like it's region-free too.

Thus from the sound of it, an imported Phantasy Star Universe should work fine.


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[Cojiro]

Wooooah nelly. This thread JUMPED.
Mine was shipped today by videogamesplus and my credit card issues where solved.
Happy. Oh yes.

I see alot of talk about things not working...If a UK importer signs up for a PC guardian licence, it won't work? Or is it only 360 people that are screwed?
What exactly is going on? I'm mighty confused.

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[Xeion]

Got a mail from VideogamesPlus.ca tonight...PSU IS SHIPPED!!!!! *Super happy* http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Reser]

you need to read up >__> you cant play online till its released in europe,, meh if i wanted to just play single player mode id have downloaded from torrent =__=

[Cojiro]

On 2006-10-24 11:52, Reser wrote:
you need to read up >__> you cant play online till its released in europe,, meh if i wanted to just play single player mode id have downloaded from torrent =__=


I read that, but why won't it work? When I go to the play sega site it lets me get to the place where I have to enter my details...and it says it'll cost £5.99 a month..
I can't ge tfurther than that 'cause I'm borrowng someone else's card.

[Mikaga]

If a UK importer signs up for a PC guardian licence, it won't work?
If you're in the UK, PlaySega doesn't let you sign up for a PSU Guardian's License. There won't be an option for it until November 24th.


When I go to the play sega site it lets me get to the place where I have to enter my details...and it says it'll cost £5.99 a month..
That's Blue Burst. At the moment if you click the "NEW SUBSCRIPTION" tab, you'll get directed to the Blue Burst subscription (which will error out if you already have a Blue Burst subscription).



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[MoonSblaise]

yeah i dont get it, it jus goes on to confirm for blue burst i dont get the option for GUARDIANS >_>

[MoonSblaise]

ewww omfg lol

[Cojiro]

On 2006-10-24 11:58, Mikaga wrote:

f a UK importer signs up for a PC guardian licence, it won't work?
If you're in the UK, PlaySega doesn't let you sign up for a PSU Guardian's License. There won't be an option for it until November 24th.


That's...really harsh.
Like, REALLY harsh. Why do we have to wait the extra month in the first place!?

Also, I dunno how games work, but do you think it will it let you sign up for a UK guardian licence with a US copy of the game?

[Mikaga]

(Scroll up. I edited my last post to reply to something else you said.)

It oughta let you sign up for a UK guardian's license with a US copy of the game. They'd have had to put even further work into making the PC version "region-locked", and even with all this happening, I can't see them having done that.

[Cojiro]

That's so annoying...
Should have seen it coming, with the way the UK PSU site's banner changed based on your location, but still....
I lost alot of love for sega. I don't care how fucking sexy sonic PS3 looks. You're all bastards.

[Cojiro]

On 2006-10-24 12:01, Mikaga wrote:
(Scroll up. I edited my last post to reply to something else you said.)

It oughta let you sign up for a UK guardian's license with a US copy of the game. They'd have had to put even further work into making the PC version "region-locked", and even with all this happening, I can't see them having done that.


Let's hope...
Man. I am...not a happy boy.

[Cojiro]

Double post >_<
Stupid browser.

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[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 12:01, Mikaga wrote:
It oughta let you sign up for a UK guardian's license with a US copy of the game. They'd have had to put even further work into making the PC version "region-locked", and even with all this happening, I can't see them having done that.

Yeah, I still have hope for this option as well.

Just be aware, all PS2/PC importers, that you very likely won't be able to keep your characters if you decide to get an American liason to sign up for you for this first month and switch to an EU/AU account next month.

I think I'll do it myself anyway, though. I can always start making some friends and have the weapons, money and other items I accumulate transported over to my new characters next month. It's not ideal, but I'll take what I can get.



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[Cojiro]

I don't know anyone in america so...
Offline mode for me.
I could have saved a bunch of stress and done all this next month...and there's the torture of knowing how close I was.
Man. We're gonna miss halloween and everything....

[Mwabwetumba]

I just need THIS question answered..

WILL I be able to play offline mode without a GUARDIANS licence!?
Im cool with waiting a month to play online, just gives me time to learn the game.. but DONT make me WAIT for ANOTHER MONTH!

Someone, please?

[DangerMuse]

Videogameplus site down?

I'm just getting time outs for the past hour

[Feelmirath]

Meh, I can live with playing the offline modes for a month. Might actually know what does what before I go online http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

EDIT:

On 2006-10-24 12:18, Mwabwetumba wrote:
I just need THIS question answered..

WILL I be able to play offline mode without a GUARDIANS licence!?
Im cool with waiting a month to play online, just gives me time to learn the game.. but DONT make me WAIT for ANOTHER MONTH!

Someone, please?

If you do, then Sega is a house of fucked-up minds.

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[Cojiro]

Didn't someone say you needed to go online even with offline for some reason?
To varify, or something?

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 12:19, DangerMuse wrote:
Videogameplus site down?

I'm just getting time outs for the past hour



nope, it's up for me.

[Mikaga]

Just be aware, all PS2/PC importers, that you very likely won't be able to keep your characters if you decide to get an American liason to sign up for you for this first month and switch to an EU/AU account next month.
You can't move a Game ID between accounts, but it's likely that you'll be able to change the card payments are made from.

So what would need to be done for an importer to play, as far as I know, would be:

• Get an american "gift visa" thing which should be good for limited use.
• Lie and say you live in America.

If that works, then on the 24th you could change your billing card to your actual card. You won't be able to change your country since you can't change an account's country.

Unfortunately, it's been speculated that the billing system actually checks the billing address. If so it might catch any card you switch to as "not from America" and thus not allow it.


WILL I be able to play offline mode without a GUARDIANS licence!?
Yes. This has been confirmed by the FAQ on the official site, AND on the billing site's details.


Man. We're gonna miss halloween and everything...
This enrages me to no end. I honestly enjoy all these events and having to wait 50 weeks because I wasn't allowed to see it the first time around isn't my idea of "fun".


Videogameplus site down?
It's up for me. Just very VERY slow. Weird.

[Mikaga]

Didn't someone say you needed to go online even with offline for some reason?
To varify, or something?
You need to be connected to play Story and Extra Mode. Apparently you select those from within the game and it needs to confirm that GameGuard is active and updated before running.

However as stated just now, you do not need to have a subscription to play Story Mode. I'm unsure about Extra Mode.

[Cojiro]

Cool, thanks Mikaga.
Yeah I'm peeved about halloween. I wanted the halloween my room decor something rotten.
I like pumkpins, damn it!

[Callous]

Bloody VGP still haven't shipped my copy and it's nearing 4pm in Toronto. This isn't a good day.

[krika]

On 2006-10-24 12:36, Callous wrote:
Bloody VGP still haven't shipped my copy and it's nearing 4pm in Toronto. This isn't a good day.



Same here Callous. Maybe it depends on where you live?

Btw is it possible to import american gift cards visa/american express?

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[Feelmirath]

On 2006-10-24 12:36, Callous wrote:
Bloody VGP still haven't shipped my copy and it's nearing 4pm in Toronto. This isn't a good day.

I was about to say "patience laddie, you have another month to go", then remembered you have a US card >.>

[Darrell]

I will have a look on XBL in a bit and see where i can get to on the licence page and see if i can get one if so will let you all know.

[Callous]

On 2006-10-24 12:39, Feelmirath wrote:
I was about to say "patience laddie, you have another month to go", then remembered you have a US card >.>

Evil!

And Krika, I couldn't find one when I looked yesterday. I haven't looked at all of them, but the ones I did look at only shipped to US addresses. Why can't you just buy an amount on a virtual Visa in this day and age?

[Cojiro]

VGP sent my copy!
And I can't even play...I;d give you my copy in a second if it wern't so...mpossible.
Damn intawets.

[Mikaga]

Virtual Visa? That sounds interesting. Or were you asking why such a thing doesn't exist?

In other ideas, would it be possible to hire someone who can play to get you a halloween room decor and staff, or are they somehow nontradeable?

In other other news, 17 pages?! That's freaking insane ^.^

[Callous]

Yeah, it was wishful thinking. I'm guessing it has to do with crime or some such thing.



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[Cojiro]

Yeah, I'm gonna beg my brother in Kuwait. Though there's no guarentee he'll be able to play either. Kuwait is officially PAL so he might face the same problems as us...



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[krika]

On 2006-10-24 12:45, Callous wrote:
Evil!

And Krika, I couldn't find one when I looked yesterday. I haven't looked at all of them, but the ones I did look at only shipped to US addresses. Why can't you just buy an amount on a virtual Visa in this day and age?



Virtual Visa, never heard of it. I'll check it out, thx man.

[Cojiro]

Hey now, I'll hold my tongue but that was uncalled for...
Anyway...
Kuwait is officially PAL but get EVERYTHING from America. playsega dosen't have a middle east page..so who knows...