PSU = too simplistic

[solidsolo]

I've been playing the beta the last few days and it really hit me how simplistic this game is. It's practically like PSO w/ better graphics and some more weapons thrown in.. really.. its the same exact game (fanboys don't deny it). It just needs more!!

comeon.. SEGA should be further ahead than this so I decided not to purchase and 3 of my friends aren't either.

*gets his flame shield strapped to his arm and holds on tight

[Fazeshot]

cry more? dont play dont start these useless threads.. if u dont like it.. DONT PLAY noone cares

[Maxurion]

You DO know that this is a BETA, not the full game, right?

[Bast]

On 2006-10-18 12:22, Maxurion wrote:
You DO know that this is a BETA, not the full game, right?



Shhh... don't tell him that.



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[Feyz]

Good point, Maxurion. That would be like playing the old ICO demo (the one that had the windmill area) and deciding not to play the full game because the demo was too limiting.

solidsolo, you played a beta, for a few days, with most items/areas/missions/expert classes unavailable to you. Of course it was limiting. It was basically a gloriified stress test.

[Jozon]

keep him away, we don't need him or his friends in the community if that's his attitude and he has to tell us all he's not playing it(cry for attention, go tell your mommy)

[AlphaMinotaux]

if they rereleased PSOBB with brand new servers, i'd start it again http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Silver_Wyrm]

On 2006-10-18 12:26, wraith5k wrote:
the sequel to PSO plays exactly like PSO but has more stuff. I can't. Believe it.

Can you?


No.
*wallows in disbelief*

[Kakashi_Xero]

exactly more room for us on servers, and last i checked it is a PS game so there will be some simalarities

[wraith5k]

the sequel to PSO plays exactly like PSO but has more stuff. I can't. Believe it.

Can you?

[Magician]

PSU doesn't excite you? That's fine.

Personally, I can't get enough of the beta and can't wait for what the full game will offer.

[Rizen]

*hands flame-proof helm*

Well, I cant say I agree. Some people were expecting a full revamp of PSO and was sad to see it wasnt. If it wasnt like PSO, I think that some people might have been as interested in PSU. Yes, the battle system is similiar with 3 combo hit, but there are new elements that enhances the experience like PAs and strafing. Other than that, PSU has more things that PSO didnt have (like my room, story, multiple missions with difficulty scale, synthing, clothes, and PMs which actually make the game unique in a way).

Also this is the beta and everything isnt out yet. But I cant change your mind, only wish you allow more of a chance.



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[Fazeshot]

On 2006-10-18 12:26, wraith5k wrote:
the sequel to PSO plays exactly like PSO but has more stuff. I can't. Believe it.

Can you?



Who woulda thought!?

[ABDUR101]

Uh..yeah. You did'nt expect it to be a PSO-based game? What, you'd prefer another Episode 3 card-game? This is PSO for the next-gen consoles, with some extra stuff, an updated story, all the bells and whistles PSO players would expect, while still keeping the general PSO experience.

If you did'nt expect PSU to be what it is, wow, you missed the train I guess.

[AlphaMinotaux]

Rizen how old are you? your posts are like always well thought out and well worded ._.

[solidsolo]

On 2006-10-18 12:27, Rizen wrote:
*hands flame-proof helm*

Yes, the battle system is similiar with 3 combo hit,


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yes and also look at the mobs AI system?? comeon they just walk around like zombies like they did before.. you guys are telling me that SEGA couldn't improve on this aspect??

but the 3 hit combo bothers me the most.. i was hoping for a huge change from that.

[Fazeshot]

Umm.. the enemies dont mindlessly walk around you anymore.. they attack people based on damage done (aggro) and they jump at u and jump back as to dodge attacks and attack u by suprise.. Your logic phails



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[Valatar]

Saying that PSU is very much like PSO is a valid thing to say. It is. There are more mechanics for character development, but the whole, 'run around, beat up a monster with your photon weapon, fry another monster with a technique, grab loot, repeat' deal is pretty much the same. I don't see a problem with that, I enjoyed the relatively simple gameplay of PSO. But if someone was terminally bored by PSO, PSU probably won't rekindle the spark.

[Kakashi_Xero]

yep, i agree with fazeshot, from what youve said you must have done a really low mission where they dont attack much, from what ive seen in videos in higher rank mission you can really get thrashed, so your logic does fail

[physic]

The 3 hit combo, is hu only,(ra plays like a gun shooter, with slight fps elements) and in reality as you level you wont use it so much, you will pick your weapon based on what PAs it has, pick your PA, and use that most the time, switching weapons for diffferent use, you can also change direction of your attacks, and maximize em to hit multiple enemies, depending on your weapon. Heh you can even control the path of the mbison like double saber attack, as for the ai, those are early levels, which usually have the simplest opponents, not like the ai is ever super powered, but its an action game, what do you want from the ai? Streetfighter? (i think that would be hot but most others would probably disagree) I see what you mean though, and i think early on it feels that way till you open the game up. till you get 3 or 4 part Pas, and switching weapons, till you have to knock an opponent on teh ground and kill them, or hit them and run away, because otherwise youll get a self destruct to the face. I think your basing too much on to little play time

[Rizen]

On 2006-10-18 12:30, solidsolo wrote:

yes and also look at the mobs AI system?? comeon they just walk around like zombies like they did before.. you guys are telling me that SEGA couldn't improve on this aspect??

but the 3 hit combo bothers me the most.. i was hoping for a huge change from that.


Actually, the AI is much better than PSO. They actually attack you more aggressively, parry, block, and even retreat at times. Also, the AI is based on Mission rank so that might be another issue.
The 3 hit combo is only for normal attacks though. I should have stated that PAs add anywhere from 3 to 7 additional hits on an enemy.



On 2006-10-18 12:30, AlphaMinotaux wrote:
Rizen how old are you? your posts are like always well thought out and well worded ._.


I am 17 going on 18 in a few months and I am a Senior in Advanced English. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif My teacher always tell me that if you want your opinion to be heard, it has to be well thought out and respectful...which I admit I havent been lately due to massive stress.

[jarek99]

Every game is the same. Every game requires you to press buttons to do things, just different pictures on the screen. You should just quit all games. We are all going to die someday. Lets skip ahead and just end it now.

what a great attitude.

[Kakashi_Xero]

wow thats the 3 person ive heard say something along the lines of that, jarek99, that was harsh but funny



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[Valkayree]

On 2006-10-18 12:19, solidsolo wrote:
I've been playing the beta the last few days and it really hit me how simplistic this game is. It's practically like PSO w/ better graphics and some more weapons thrown in.. really.. its the same exact game (fanboys don't deny it). It just needs more!!

comeon.. SEGA should be further ahead than this so I decided not to purchase and 3 of my friends aren't either.

*gets his flame shield strapped to his arm and holds on tight



Well at least you know that you will be flamed. Personally, I'm glad you are quitting, more server space for me.

[Suraku]

Someone should move this to the rants section....

[PJ]

On 2006-10-18 12:19, solidsolo wrote:
its the same exact game (fanboys don't deny it).

You ARE playing the same PSU I'm playing, right?

"They've both got lightsabers! And guns! And magic! They're EXACTLY the same!"

Bravo

[Feyz]

This topic... I don't mean to flame the guy who made it, but its almost like buying Soul Calibur II and complaining that all you do is fight and its a lot like Soul Calibur I. I mean, like, yeah! Soooo?

To put it another way: play what you like. If you don't think you'll like PSU based on the beta, that's your call. But just remember most of the people on this board really like PSO and are looking forward to PSU. So, you probably won't find all that many people here that 'agree' with you on skipping out on PSU.

Most of us are counting down the days, hours, seconds, milliseconds, and nanoseconds until release.

[wraith5k]

On 2006-10-18 12:43, jarek99 wrote:
Every game is the same. Every game requires you to press buttons to do things, just different pictures on the screen. You should just quit all games. We are all going to die someday. Lets skip ahead and just end it now.

what a great attitude.



We should eat less meat while we are at it. And listen to Behemoth. They own.

[Akaimizu]

On 2006-10-18 12:53, PJ wrote:
You ARE playing the same PSU I'm playing, right?

"They've both got lightsabers! And guns! And magic! They're EXACTLY the same!"

Bravo



Cool. I didn't realize how much PSU I really have been playing.

"Goes back to playing Lego Star Wars II: The original Trilogy."



(Sorry. I didn't mean to add anything to the argument, but that line alone was enough funny, even being out of context. It just warranted a punchline.)

[Azurewrath]

On 2006-10-18 12:30, solidsolo wrote:
omg this game is liek psu but the grafics r betr n theres mor stuff and you hit stuf with swords n stuf this sux man

[Ryogen]

People who don't like Beat-Em-Up's, Dynasty Warrors, Phantasy Star Online, Tomb Raider, True Crime: Streets of LA, or Nighty Nine Nights...this game is not for you. Becuase a game is simple dosen't mean it's not fun or entertaining. So if you don't like it, It's fine by me.

[wraith5k]

On 2006-10-18 12:56, Akaimizu wrote:


On 2006-10-18 12:53, PJ wrote:
You ARE playing the same PSU I'm playing, right?

"They've both got lightsabers! And guns! And magic! They're EXACTLY the same!"

Bravo



Cool. I didn't realize how much PSU I really have been playing.

"Goes back to playing Lego Star Wars II: The original Trilogy."



(Sorry. I didn't mean to add anything to the argument, but that line alone was enough funny, even being out of context. It just warranted a punchline.)



Ditto that.

*Goes back to playing Diablo II Lod.*

[Kakashi_Xero]

there not exactly the same. last i saw was you dont have the pso classes such as HUmar and RAmarl or FOnewm for that matter sure you can try to recreate them with expert classes, and none of the clothes the hair nor do the looks, look exactly the same. sure the idea of it being in a sci fi rpg is the same and the concept is the same but nothing else is the same

[Losodo1976]

On 2006-10-18 12:19, solidsolo wrote:
I've been playing the beta the last few days and it really hit me how simplistic this game is. It's practically like PSO w/ better graphics and some more weapons thrown in.. really.. its the same exact game (fanboys don't deny it). It just needs more!!

comeon.. SEGA should be further ahead than this so I decided not to purchase and 3 of my friends aren't either.

*gets his flame shield strapped to his arm and holds on tight



Oh well... can't please everyone. Maybe you should be playing one of those life-draining MMO's?

PSU is supposed to be like PSO: simple, fun and fast paced.

[Caydence]

Sorry Solidsolo. The Halo 2 boards are located here : http://www.bungie.com

[Rizen]

Alright...guys, I think the point has been made. I think he made this post to be flamed on purpose. Right now all we are probably doing is giving the guy a laugh and feeding the trolls. No need to argue this much more.

[Trinitystar]

Im new to the PS games but to me all games are like it in a way, WoW,FFXI,EQ and so on they come out with EP that add new stuff it's still the same game. And I have been beta testing for years now and can say if you go by beta you will miss out big time. There have been games I tested that at first you could not give away but turned out to be a real good game when time came to play to real thing I say give it a new try when the game really comes out. They plan to add new stuff all the time just like the other games do.

[Ryogen]

wraith5k gave me this majick powder from Daiblo II to make trolls dissipear...it's not working.

[SpishackCola]

Needs more fuel.