What about Patches? [Archive]

sscaff1

Oct 19, 2006, 09:00 PM

Have they kept the Xbox360 servers separate because of voice communication AND because they intend to release patches? I mean you cannot (I would think) releases patches for the PC because the network is tied with the PS2 network but the Xbox can have as many patches as they want. Also I was wondering what you guys thought was going to have the largest Community base. Before this beta I could have sworn that the PS2 and PC community would be much bigger than the 360 but now I'm not so sure. Are the PS2 and PC servers linked to the Japanese servers like the 360 version?

[ This Message was edited by: sscaff1 on 2006-10-19 19:00 ]

Blackwaltz-R

Oct 19, 2006, 09:03 PM

PS2 and PC are crossplatform and is only crossregional with EU while x360 is crossregional all over, prolly for the sake of making sure they have a large player base equivalent to ps2 and pc.

Reeses

Oct 19, 2006, 09:06 PM

I would think that PC/PS2 would still have a larger community base then XBox 360. I mean, think about how many people would have done an English Beta on the PC/PS2 if they could. More than XBox 360 i would think imho.

sscaff1

Oct 19, 2006, 09:09 PM

I'll be getting it for my PC too. For the sake of being able to play with my friends and for not having to worry if my roommates are using my TV since I have the only HD TV in my apartment (they have yet to learn that working pays for things *amazed face*). I was just wondering what you guys thought about the differences between the communities. Oh and btw why Sega allowed voice communication I will never understand because I think it's retarded.

February

Oct 19, 2006, 09:32 PM

The 360 is using seperate servers simply because it was easier to tie your gamertag to your PSU account and to purchase a Guardians license from live. At least that's what the faq says.

MrConstipated

Oct 19, 2006, 09:35 PM

ps2/pc servers will be the most dominant.

If i had to break it down population from largest to smallest would look like this. (looking at NA players only)

1st-ps2
2nd-360
3rd-pc

BlueInfinity

Oct 19, 2006, 09:37 PM

umm wouldn't the pc population and the ps2 population be combined because their on the same server/

Candor

Oct 19, 2006, 09:37 PM

On 2006-10-19 19:00, sscaff1 wrote:
Also I was wondering what you guys thought was going to have the largest Community base. Before this beta I could have sworn that the PS2 and PC community would be much bigger than the 360 but now I'm not so sure.

Well not trying to advertise my own topic, that is the reason i made this http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=121857&forum=20&55 maybe you can draw some conclusion

[ This Message was edited by: Candor on 2006-10-19 19:38 ]

MrConstipated

Oct 19, 2006, 09:38 PM

they are combined...

g00dman12

Oct 19, 2006, 09:44 PM

So the 360 will not be with the Ps2 and PC? If so that sucks becuz my firend is geting the game and he has A ps2.

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MrConstipated

Oct 19, 2006, 09:51 PM

pc/ps2 combined servers.

360 seperate servers they share with Japan users.

you and your friend are screwed

February

Oct 19, 2006, 09:52 PM

A lot of the gamers i know on 360 are getting the game for PS2 or PC for that reason. Which sucks for them. 'cause if I had a 360, I'd totally go for that one.

sscaff1

Oct 19, 2006, 09:52 PM

On 2006-10-19 19:44, g00dman12 wrote:
So the 360 will not be with the Ps2 and PC? If so that sucks becuz my firend is geting the game and he has A ps2.

[ This Message was edited by: g00dman12 on 2006-10-19 19:46 ]

This is why I'm getting the game for my PC so that I can play with my friends.

Cause_I_Own_U

Oct 19, 2006, 11:19 PM

360 version will blow, its FFXI all over again, have fun trying to talk to the people you group with or finding people who actaully speak english there's gonna be way more japanese people than american

Phalynx

Oct 19, 2006, 11:24 PM

MrConstipated

Oct 19, 2006, 11:28 PM

On 2006-10-19 21:19, Cause_I_Own_U wrote:
360 version will blow, its FFXI all over again, have fun trying to talk to the people you group with or finding people who actaully speak english there's gonna be way more japanese people than american

actually theres going to be more americans than japanese because the JP's hate anything microsoft.

but your right it will blow because of the communication issue. This was just an attempt by sega to not make the 360 version seem so "dead"

[ This Message was edited by: MrConstipated on 2006-10-19 21:28 ]

Phalynx

Oct 19, 2006, 11:32 PM

The communication issue isnt going to really be an issue, im sure the japanese will congregate in a specific universe, and either wont play with us, or not talk to us in a group. It's not really a difficult game to play where you need lots of social interaction in combat. You get into a room, clear it out, and move on.

g00dman12

Oct 20, 2006, 06:22 AM

On 2006-10-19 19:51, MrConstipated wrote:
pc/ps2 combined servers.

360 seperate servers they share with Japan users.

you and your friend are screwed

Thxs for the info

FAHR-3NH317

Oct 20, 2006, 04:33 PM

ooo thats sad, you poor 360 guys...
I'm surprised they would do that! I was looking forward to us all playing together ;<

g00dman12

Oct 21, 2006, 12:03 PM

On 2006-10-20 14:33, FAHR-3NH317 wrote:
ooo thats sad, you poor 360 guys...
I'm surprised they would do that! I was looking forward to us all playing together ;<

Its all good whos got the mics. Also what about A hard drive huh? LoL

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Raynef

Oct 21, 2006, 12:19 PM

I thought the xbox 360 wasnt really all that popular in japan?

Mazoku

Oct 21, 2006, 12:25 PM

On 2006-10-19 21:19, Cause_I_Own_U wrote:
360 version will blow, its FFXI all over again, have fun trying to talk to the people you group with or finding people who actaully speak english there's gonna be way more japanese people than american

What really makes this post classic is how it says "Mood: Squall" in his profile. lol

360 has sold less than 100k units in Japan. Combine that with the fact that the Japanese 360 version won't be out for a while, and almost all the Japanese people will be on PC or PS2.

drmcst45

Oct 21, 2006, 12:36 PM

from my experience on the Beta, talking in PSU just seems so damn awkward. People will boot you from games for no reason and even add salt to the wound by talking shit on the mic.

you also feel more nerdy talking on the mic about general psu terms and what have you

Natrokos

Oct 21, 2006, 01:37 PM

On 2006-10-19 21:19, Cause_I_Own_U wrote:
360 version will blow, its FFXI all over again, have fun trying to talk to the people you group with or finding people who actaully speak english there's gonna be way more japanese people than american

LOL. Japanese with 360s? That's like saying there's WMD in Iraq....It's a flat-out lie. Besides, I liked playing with Japanese in FFXI and I think i'm like the only one.....360 version will be fine. THIS ISNT FFXI!

Otis_Kat

Oct 21, 2006, 01:41 PM

Game releated fixes are going to be handled server side and for new content?

They have everything they plan to "release" on the disc already until the next funky expansion comes out.

How those work? Who knows http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Natrokos

Oct 21, 2006, 01:42 PM

On 2006-10-21 10:36, drmcst45 wrote:

you also feel more nerdy talking on the mic about general psu terms and what have you

Dude, we are playing as aliens and robots fighting an omnipotent evil force with magic, laserguns, and axes in space. You also have a mini robo girl who you can feed and take into battle with you. Did I mention the anime cutscenes and people dancing in the background?

Nerdy comes with the job. I have accepted that.

Starshape

Oct 21, 2006, 01:42 PM

What most of you forget is that most of us who're getting PSU for the 360 also have a computer.. I could buy it for the computer if I wanted to, but why? 360 just feels better..

Prise

Oct 21, 2006, 01:45 PM

what about patches? lol

g00dman12

Oct 21, 2006, 10:56 PM

On 2006-10-21 11:45, Prise wrote:
what about patches? lol

Lol Who knows

Zarode

Oct 21, 2006, 11:03 PM

Get with the topic about patches! Patches CAN be done on the ps2, via the memory card. Now how much information can be held before this becomes...a problem, I do not know.

It's clear that the PC verison will have patches, or so I hope. I mean, cmon, why not?

BrandonBa2

Oct 21, 2006, 11:05 PM

Just because the PS2 and PC servers are linked doesn't mean they can't patch the PC version.

vitius137

Oct 21, 2006, 11:18 PM

if all the pre-unlocked content is on the DVD then how easy would it be for a master hacker to manually unlock it? probably not very because it would probably need to be done server side but I'm just asking.

BrandonBa2

Oct 21, 2006, 11:31 PM

They can prob. unlock it but it wont be active server side http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Chronosv2

Oct 21, 2006, 11:44 PM

Everyone's forgetting about something important: Sony's DNAS. Look at this link ( http://www.us.playstation.com/DNAS ) for more info. Suffice to say, using any sort of hacking tool will result in a DNAS error. For even more information, look here too: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps2na&message.id=57045

Edit/Addition: While this does not answer the patching question, it should help to answer the cheating/content unlock question.

[ This Message was edited by: Chronosv2 on 2006-10-21 21:46 ]

Kyuu

Oct 21, 2006, 11:56 PM

Patches for new content and to fix bugs/glitches are handled almost exclusively server-side. So the storage capacity of the client machine is irrelevant. Meaning, there is no issue with patching.

sscaff1

Oct 22, 2006, 12:36 AM

On 2006-10-21 21:03, Zarode wrote:
Get with the topic about patches! Patches CAN be done on the ps2, via the memory card. Now how much information can be held before this becomes...a problem, I do not know.

It's clear that the PC verison will have patches, or so I hope. I mean, cmon, why not?

I would think PC and PS2 would have to remain essentially the same in terms of content. They couldn't add new content to the PC and not to the PS2 because the servers are linked. The only thing they could do on the PC I would think is some bug patches or something to fix some glitches that they probably wouldn't do for the PS2.

Chibi_Nova

Oct 22, 2006, 01:23 AM

my friend was gonna get the 360 verison but he didnt want to be alone

BrandonBa2

Oct 22, 2006, 01:26 AM

They COULD make content for the PC and not have it active on the PS2 version. It would work just like an expansion, if you do not have the patch you can not access the new missions.

Yusaku_Kudou

Oct 22, 2006, 03:01 AM

Phantasy Star has no business on a Sony console if you ask me.

AkiraXxx

Oct 22, 2006, 04:06 PM

I personal will be playing on PC, using an xbox360 controller, and using an av converter so I can see whats on the comp on my flat screen. The pc just feels more comfortable then the ps2. Plus You dont have to worry about random freezing which happens occasionally, specially on the flat ps2. Plus Im not thrilled about the xbox version due to the fact that you have to in the end pay more, not to mention im not racist but I hate playing on multi region servers, due to the language problems and overall tension between american and overseas players. AND YES, there is a tension between most of them in almost all mmo's.

Reoshin

Oct 22, 2006, 04:11 PM

Phalynx

Oct 22, 2006, 04:14 PM

On 2006-10-22 14:11, Reoshin wrote:

On 2006-10-19 21:19, Cause_I_Own_U wrote:
360 version will blow, its FFXI all over again, have fun trying to talk to the people you group with or finding people who actaully speak english there's gonna be way more japanese people than american

he has a huge point which is why im getting it for pc

Than your just as dumb as he is, considering the JP get the 360 version AFTER the US, and the 360 isnt even selling good in japan. Try knowing what your talking about before you spew out idiocy.