PS2 discrimination?

[Flamingo99]

I'll be playing on a PS2, and I want to see if the PC users will care if someone in their group is on a PS2 (Because of the Slowdown and no TeamSpeak/Ventrillo).

Note: Sorry for the typo on the 3rd Poll option.

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[Shiro_Ryuu]

I'm also gonna be playing on PS2 so of course I will welcome PS2 players as well.

[Silver_Wyrm]

I want to see aps2 on good net connection before I say anythign about "slowdown"...all the videos of ps2 Ive seen looked liek they were on soem craptastic connection

[chichiri99]

You're quite welcome in my party so long as you
:- Know how to hold a weapon
:- Don't shoot you'rself in the foot
:- Liek caek
:- Aren't a HUmar

[AlMcFly]

Um, if we're going for S Rank, I will probably advise against anyone with a slow connection or graphical lag to join us. But as long as you can't, in any way, ruin the score that I get or if at all possible slow my computer down, join up! ;P For regular missions not worrying about the rank, I would definitely party up wit ya, no questions asked.

[BioWarrior]

Atleast in the groups I make anyone including PS2 users will be welcome. The only people I will kick from my groups are the people who act like total assholes.

[_Tek_]

are not welcome... are not welcome... are not welcome... are not welcome...

klol

[BlueDagger]

I couldn't care less what version of the game someone is playing, since I wont be using any voice communication either(on the PC).... That's one of the reasons I quit Xbox Live...


TOO MUCH SCREAMING!!!!

[DarkShadowX]

PS2 player here, but I welcome everybody.

[googles]

Il be playing on the ps2 version, my ps2 is right by my computer so il still have vent.

[Garnet_Moon]

What's this I hear about slow-down for the PS2 version? I see it on every single PSU forum I go to... everyone flames the crap out of the PS2 version for being slow, and the Xbox 360 for being the Xbox 360.

Is it really that bad? Please no idiocy like on PSUs official site.

Guy 1: *long post saying his predicament* So, should I get it for the PS2?
Guy 2: PC!
Guy 3: lolps2
Guy 1: Umm... you didn't really answer my question.
Guy 2: Get it on the PC or die.
Guy 4: PC for teh multi taskers!
Guy 5: You'll be fine. It's not as bad as they make it out to be.
Guy 6: Guy 5 is lying. I played the PS2 version and it laaaaaaged straight to hell.
Guy 1: -_-;;


Yeah... i'd say i'm out of the loop.

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[googles]

I am kinda concerned about the ps2 version being slow, hell il probably just get both, the pc and ps2 versions, just ps2 first.

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-10-21 14:34, googles wrote:
I am kinda concerned about the ps2 version being slow, hell il probably just get both, the pc and ps2 versions, just ps2 first.




Guy 1: Umm... you didn't really answer my question.

>_>

[googles]

I wasn't trying to answer your question, just commenting on it.

[Kyuu]

The "slowdown" on the PS2 version isn't that big a deal. It's not going to ruin your chances for an S-rank or anything. Quit worrying about it.

Oh, and yeah, I'll be on PC, and I couldn't care less what platform my teammates are playing on.

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-10-21 14:38, Kyuu wrote:
The "slowdown" on the PS2 version isn't that big a deal. It's not going to ruin your chances for an S-rank or anything. Quit worrying about it.

Oh, and yeah, I'll be on PC, and I couldn't care less what platform my teammates are playing on.


So will it be like the same random hiccups on a PC game when it runs smoothly?

[Genobee]

I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.

[Kjeldor]

Meh im using a PS2 and im getting my USB keyboard.

[BioWarrior]

On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.



The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.

[EnixBelmont]

I'm getting PC, but if anyone seriously cares what platform they play on, then I'm amazed. The slowdown is probably very minor.

ALthough PS2 is the worst console to play on, it's not a bad console to play on.

[February]

On 2006-10-21 14:31, Garnet_Moon wrote:
What's this I hear about slow-down for the PS2 version? I see it on every single PSU forum I go to... everyone flames the crap out of the PS2 version for being slow, and the Xbox 360 for being the Xbox 360.

Is it really that bad? Please no idiocy like on PSUs official site.

Guy 1: *long post saying his predicament* So, should I get it for the PS2?
Guy 2: PC!
Guy 3: lolps2
Guy 1: Umm... you didn't really answer my question.
Guy 2: Get it on the PC or die.
Guy 4: PC for teh multi taskers!
Guy 5: You'll be fine. It's not as bad as they make it out to be.
Guy 6: Guy 5 is lying. I played the PS2 version and it laaaaaaged straight to hell.
Guy 1: -_-;;


Yeah... i'd say i'm out of the loop.

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I saw a video that was suppoused to show how bad the lag was, I hardly noticed any at all. There was an ocassional hiccup and that was it. It's somewhere in these forums if you feel like looking for it.

[Genobee]

On 2006-10-21 16:51, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.



The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.



then they would be kicked out of the group anyways. do you have a point?

[Pengfishh]

I'll have the luxury of playing my PS2 in close vicinity to my computing machine any-ol'-way, so using Ventrillo is as simple as using Ventrillo, but I plan to play with a select group of five or so and MAYBE branch out when I get the monies for a USB keyboard (despite their relatively low cost, I have no job, no money, and a girl to impress, though I am coming around to better ways in all these things -- interview on Monday for a job, the job pays well if I get it, and the girl is completely taken with my winning personality and humble good looks, and you'd better believe parentheticals can get this long).

Besides, let's all be friends and stuff, right?



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[BioWarrior]

On 2006-10-21 16:52, Genobee wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:51, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.



The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.



then they would be kicked out of the group anyways. do you have a point?



Unless they are being rude its kinda lame to boot someone just because they aren't as good at typing.

[LordHakutsuru]

On 2006-10-21 16:52, Genobee wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:51, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.


The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.


then they would be kicked out of the group anyways. do you have a point?


USB Keyboards are way more standard than your Dreamcast Keyboards, don't you think?

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-10-21 16:52, heavenly6 wrote:


On 2006-10-21 14:31, Garnet_Moon wrote:
What's this I hear about slow-down for the PS2 version? I see it on every single PSU forum I go to... everyone flames the crap out of the PS2 version for being slow, and the Xbox 360 for being the Xbox 360.

Is it really that bad? Please no idiocy like on PSUs official site.

Guy 1: *long post saying his predicament* So, should I get it for the PS2?
Guy 2: PC!
Guy 3: lolps2
Guy 1: Umm... you didn't really answer my question.
Guy 2: Get it on the PC or die.
Guy 4: PC for teh multi taskers!
Guy 5: You'll be fine. It's not as bad as they make it out to be.
Guy 6: Guy 5 is lying. I played the PS2 version and it laaaaaaged straight to hell.
Guy 1: -_-;;


Yeah... i'd say i'm out of the loop.

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I saw a video that was suppoused to show how bad the lag was, I hardly noticed any at all. There was an ocassional hiccup and that was it. It's somewhere in these forums if you feel like looking for it.


Nah, i'll just have to deal with it. Can't afford the video card I wanted it looks like... I just hope my PS2 will read the disc.

I have that Logitech Controller/Keyboard thingy... hope that works.

[McLaughlin]

On 2006-10-21 12:31, Silver_Wyrm wrote:
I want to see aps2 on good net connection before I say anythign about "slowdown"...all the videos of ps2 Ive seen looked liek they were on soem craptastic connection



Connection speed has nothing to do with graphical slowdown and frame rate issues, only latency (lag. IE Characters skipping around)

[Genobee]

On 2006-10-21 16:56, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:52, Genobee wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:51, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.



The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.



then they would be kicked out of the group anyways. do you have a point?



Unless they are being rude its kinda lame to boot someone just because they aren't as good at typing.



No cause they should be on PSU they should be going back to school to learn how to write and spell and mabye take a typing class.

[Garnet_Moon]

I want to see videos of a little better quality. Most of them look either slow or slowed down... maybe youtube likes to add bullet time effects to all their vids...

[Genobee]

On 2006-10-21 17:02, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I want to see videos of a little better quality. Most of them look either slow or slowed down... maybe youtube likes to add bullet time effects to all their vids...



It's because you tube compresses the videos and refomats them thats why the look odd

[BioWarrior]

On 2006-10-21 17:02, Genobee wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:56, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:52, Genobee wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:51, BioWarrior wrote:


On 2006-10-21 16:45, Genobee wrote:
I probly an't gonna allow PS2 players in my group unless they have a usb key board cause I'm not gonna sit there and wait for them to type out a sentance with a contoler.



The thing is, unless they state they are on PS2 you won't know, and for all you know they could just be very slow typers on a keyboard.



then they would be kicked out of the group anyways. do you have a point?



Unless they are being rude its kinda lame to boot someone just because they aren't as good at typing.



No cause they should be on PSU they should be going back to school to learn how to write and spell and mabye take a typing class.



We'll either way it probable wont be much of a problem since quite a bit of people do have USB keyboards these days, and I was going to play it on PS2 myself but not having a USB keyboard and having a PC controller made me decide on PC.

[ShinMaruku]

It's spec whores your delaing with, what can you expect?

[TwilightSea]

Of course PS2 members are welcome, despite the crap platform, we're all playing PSU cause we love it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Chronosv2]

The thing that I think needs to be understood is that the PS2 version I believe is the "base platform". PSU was designed with PS2 quality as the bare minimum, and on other platforms it can only get better. I'm playing on the PS2 version. I know my PC can support PSU, but I'd much rather have PSU (at this time) on a machine I can take with me to multiple broadband-enabled locations. My PC is quite ackward to move around.

Now, once I've got the money, I might get the PC version for when I'm at home. Until then, PS2 all the way.

[KazuKun]

What I don't get is why everyone's bashing on the PS2? I still think the PS2's going strong, despite the fact that the PS3 is being released soon enough. It's largely due to the fact that the PS3 has a $400/$600 price tag on it (the lower-end model was $400 last time I checked...I think). I'm not saying that the PS3 is a crappy system. It looks to be an amazing system, but I don't want to spend the $400 or $600 that isn't in my pocket. Yeah, yeah, some of you will say "Go get a job!," but some of us can't afford the time to get a job. *cough* Damn you college *cough* Just a thought.

On another note, I'm getting the PS2 version, since I have neither a PC that can run it or a XBox 360. PS2 FTW. (Again...not saying that PCs and XBox 360s suck...I'd like to have a better PC and an Xbox 360, but don't we all wish for things?)

It's sad, really, now that I think about it. I'd rather spend what little time and money I have on video games than work for money and actually earn something.


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[AnamanaAU]

I'll mostly be using typing for communication. Voice chat i not something I'll do all the time.

[Chronosv2]

I agree, and wasn't attempting to bash the PS2 in any way. I agree completely with you. There are too many people (there should be none, or a very small handful, not talking about PSO-World here) that think the PS2 players are going to cripple the PC players, which is highly unfounded information. Sure we get baseline graphics (I've heard it expressed as "all PC settings except for particle effects set to minimum), but we don't have to worry about hardware.

[LordHakutsuru]

I'm sure PS2 PSU will run better than some PC PSU players~

[EC_Subbie]

I got bad slowdown on the 360 throughout the beta.. It'll slowdown to just below 30fps or so when you're in 6 person parties, in the middle of the action with everyone using their abilities/effects. I don't see people mention this, but it happened fairly often. I'd imagine the ps2 version would have it just as bad.

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-10-21 17:49, LordHakutsuru wrote:
I'm sure PS2 PSU will run better than some PC PSU players~


Ain't it the truth.

[Genobee]

On 2006-10-21 17:49, LordHakutsuru wrote:
I'm sure PS2 PSU will run better than some PC PSU players~



unless your running windows 98 or some thing

[HKDon]

From what I've seen the slowdown isn't really THAT bad, but then again it dosen't bother me as much as most people.
I'm getting the PS2 version first before the get the PC, my friend is gonna test his copy on my comp to see if it will work (I'm still being careful about the PC) As for Vent my PC is in the same room as my PS2.



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[Tystys]

I don't really care, as long as they don't on me, -_-

[Alexandrious1]

On 2006-10-21 12:32, chichiri99 wrote:
You're quite welcome in my party so long as you
:- Know how to hold a weapon
:- Don't shoot you'rself in the foot
:- Liek caek
:- Aren't a HUmar



Your quite welcome in my party so long as you

:- Dont lag terribly
:- Know how to play at least averagly
:- Like Cake or Pie
:- Aren't a NUBmar

If you think all Human hunters are noobs think again lady, this time its different they dont got any techs whatsoever to rely on thus they gotta get some skills.

Going HUMAN fortefighter myself, will play Figunner as well half the time.

As for the PS2 users, yea just what I said above, though really im not terribly worried bout it, it be rare to have someone join me who has a 56k connection on the PS2 version, though I wont say their arnt some out their who has that kinda connection. Sad to say ._.

[Xeraphim]

Hell, I won't expect much as soon as the games goes live for Ps2 and PC. But after awhile, once everyone has had time to adjust to the games mechanics and how to play their class, if you're doing a horrible job and causing the team to fall because of your actions, then yeah. I mean, there's a line for rudeness and doing it for others. If you've got three solid players who are doing great and one player who's being a dumbass by not knowing what in the world they are doing, getting your group killed consistantly is something totally different from...

"lawlz pulaystashun too. bye-bye."



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[Bleemo]

GB2 FFXII PS2 LOZERS

LOLOLOLOLOLO

[BrandonBa2]

If you have the money get both a copy of PS2 and PC. I know not all of you have the money, but it helped me and my fiancees decision knowing we can play either 2 PC versions or 1 PC/Ps2 version with only 2 copies of the game.

[kirinano]

I'm completely unconcerned about what console or whatever other players have.

I just want to adventure and have fun and make new PSU friends.

FYI: I'm on pc, but it doesn't matter to me what platform *you're* on.

[Reoshin]

i could care less what they play on just as long as you try and keep up with what the groups doing then your cool in my book

[Oji_Retta]

Off Topic: I'm glad Pegasus is gone. Whenever I saw it, I thought of that admiral biotch ("Adama!Adama!Adama!...."). *That was to your old sig kirinano that it seems you just changed*

I could care less.





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[slime]

we need as many people as we can, so yes for ps2ers

[kirinano]

Lol Oji, I just had it in there because of last night's episode (which if you haven't seen it I won't say anything else).

And I agree with you on this topic, obviously.

[ethanhawkeye]

On 2006-10-21 20:40, slime wrote:
we need as many people as we can, so yes for ps2ers



Yes i agree, if they lag o well, more items for me.

[Losodo1976]

I'll be grouping with PS2 users all the time. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Aaomi]

All are welcome! The more the merrier!

[physic]

pc may have as much or worse slowdown as ps2 depending on your specs, but really i think the slowdown lag will end up negligeble, especially in terms of stopping you from achieveing an s rank. Come on, we Sranked pso challenge modes which are much harder, with hella lag at peak cmode times.

[Ether]

Considering 99% of Japanese players are on PS2, I haven't had any trouble playing with them whatsoever

[Mallaury]

Iam on the PC version (jp) and i didnt meet yet any problem with players who were on PS2 version.....so yes they will be more than welcoming~

[Sexy_Raine]

I'll be playing on the PS2, but eventually I'll also play it on the PC.

[Asim]

PS2 for me. Also probably not getting a keyboard.

I thought PS2 would be anti-slowdown, but my PC would be worse definately. I would like to see a video of PS2 online with PSU, too btw. lol



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[LordHakutsuru]

you mean this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5cJjjaZmyWU)?

oops wrong link, here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UFBuFRtJmvM).



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[Asim]

Thanks lord.

I really didn't notice any slowdown with the second video except for at 1:35, which wasn't too slow either. So long as no one spams that stupid face chat thing it'll be just as good as your fine PCs probably.


edit- ok watching the first one now

First video is actually just as fast. Also with the fact that it will only be somewhat slow if you play primarily as a FO who catss ice techs. This really isn't hardly a big deal.

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[Wheatpenny]

Meh,My pc and ps2 are close together.Ventrillo ftw.Who cares who playes what platform as long as you are happy with the system you are playing on.Your system's limitations whatever that will be won't make you a better/worse player than you can yourself,but enough of my rant for the everyplayer.Let's just have fun and shoot/hack/tech up some monsters.

[LordHakutsuru]

After all, it's all about spamming PAs, right~?

[Wheatpenny]

Dang Straight,Spam Photon Arts,Nanoblast,SUV weapons,rappys,the kitchen sink,and Ritz crackers and Spam(the wonderful canned lunchmeat not the slang term for a repeated action.)

[Cause_I_Own_U]

Is this post some kind of joke, what kind of person would even care about such a thing...

[ethanhawkeye]

PS2 for life.

[Callous]

On 2006-10-22 14:51, ethanhawkeye wrote:
PS2 for life.

I echo this statement.

[xzeekzx]

PS2= yumm

[Wheatpenny]

YEAH PS2 4 Evah!*Starts beating a dead horse with 2 sticks like a drum* LOL

[DoubleJG]

I'll be online for PC version but playing PS2 as well (whenever at a friend's house with broadband). I don't care what platform the person is using. Honestly, if people begin to kick players just because of what they're playing one, well, that's plain nonsense. If I'm ever in a party and someone kicks a PS2 player, I'll add that /kicker to my blacklist and create a new party myself. Everyone deserves an equal oppurtunity to enjoy the world of PSU.

[KaiNova7]

~PS2~ FTW....would've bought psu for 360 but not connected to other platforms...
And im sure the slow down is no problem at all....peeps exaggerating as usual...