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Rychiar
Oct 26, 2006, 10:41 AM
All kidding aside. Honestly which one looks the best? I know the 360 version has widescreen, but the PC version can also run on a widescreen monitor even if it does not support it. I am also concerned it is going to look really stretched out if you have a widescreen monitor.

If you put the two side by side are there any visual differences?

_dd_
Oct 26, 2006, 10:42 AM
Eh... doesn't look good stretched >_<

SephYuyX
Oct 26, 2006, 10:44 AM
Heres an easy solution.

IF
PC Specs > 360
THEN
Buy PC

IF
360 > PC Specs
THEN
Buy 360

Simple, huh?

rythmic
Oct 26, 2006, 10:46 AM
On 2006-10-26 08:44, SephirothYuyX wrote:
Heres an easy solution.

IF
PC Specs > 360
THEN
Buy PC

IF
360 > PC Specs
THEN
Buy 360

Simple, huh?






So simple it just might work.

XdarXideX2
Oct 26, 2006, 10:47 AM
Surely someone with the PC game has a widescreen monitor and can post whether or not it suuports a widescreen resolution?

The 360 version does look nice, but you have to remember this game was not made with the 360 as it's priority, so it looks as good as it does in the Screenshots and no better. Can't say how good the PC version looks but I assume it's no better than the 360 version.

The graphics don't concern me though, I'm choosing the 360 version because of the mixed servers.

parabolee
Oct 26, 2006, 10:53 AM
I'm afraid I can't confirm as I do not have a widescreen monitor, but people who said that they do and played the Japanese version said there is no widescreen support.

Rychiar
Oct 26, 2006, 10:53 AM
Well my PC is actually better than the 360 believe it or not. I am just concerned as how it will look considering I have a 30in widescreen monitor with a native resolution of 2560x1600. See where I am going with this? Since the Japanese version did not support widescreen or a higher resolution than 1280x1024 I am a little worried on how it will look.

Jaylix
Oct 26, 2006, 10:54 AM
I'll take true widescreen support on a 55" HDTV over basically any PC running the game on a monitor smaller than 32".

Easily.

The PC version not supporting widescreen really is a bummer though, even if I did get the PC version I wouldn't be able to get it on my HD set without stretching.


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Mikesnav
Oct 26, 2006, 10:54 AM
I heard the PC version and 360 version are identical (when PC settings are maxed), with the exception of some kind of blur/depth of field thing on the 360.

SephYuyX
Oct 26, 2006, 11:00 AM
Widescreen capabilities could also easily be added in an update,

McLaughlin
Oct 26, 2006, 11:02 AM
Plus Xbox 360 supports 720p.

Frog
Oct 26, 2006, 11:05 AM
360 because of Widescreen support. Smashing a 4:3 image into a 16:9 monitor does not look good. Of course Sega could always release a patch to allow widescreen resolutions on PC.

uhawww
Oct 26, 2006, 11:07 AM
That's accurate.
Until PC Gets Widescreen support, X360 > PC.

Segaholic2
Oct 26, 2006, 11:29 AM
On 2006-10-26 09:02, Zeta wrote:
Plus Xbox 360 supports 720p.



You know that this is a resolution of 1280x720, vs. the PC's maximum 1280x1024? So 720p technically is an inferior resolution to the PC.

Frog
Oct 26, 2006, 11:31 AM
On 2006-10-26 09:29, Segaholic2 wrote:

On 2006-10-26 09:02, Zeta wrote:
Plus Xbox 360 supports 720p.



You know that this is a resolution of 1280x720, vs. the PC's maximum 1280x1024? So 720p technically is an inferior resolution to the PC.


Technically you are wrong. Widescreen gaming pwns 4:3.

4:3 sucks with movies...and it sucks with games.

_dd_
Oct 26, 2006, 11:33 AM
On 2006-10-26 09:29, Segaholic2 wrote:

On 2006-10-26 09:02, Zeta wrote:
Plus Xbox 360 supports 720p.



You know that this is a resolution of 1280x720, vs. the PC's maximum 1280x1024? So 720p technically is an inferior resolution to the PC.



Unless you're outputting through VGA in which the resolution is 1360x768, a widescreen resolution, and also it supports 1280x1024 which makes what you called inferior in your post... inferior


o.O



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Tomeeboy
Oct 26, 2006, 11:36 AM
The US release does not support widescreen resolution (same as the JP version, and PC beta version). The highest resolution is 1280 x 1024. While I'd really like to play in true widescreen resolution (got a 20.1" widescreen LCD), I just play in windowed mode in full res and use the extra screen space to keep an eye on instant messages, web sites, etc.. Who knows, maybe they'll add widescreen support some time. Seeing as how the Xbox 360 version HAS to support it, you'd think they would update the PC version to do the same.

_dd_
Oct 26, 2006, 11:38 AM
On 2006-10-26 09:36, Tomeeboy wrote:
The US release does not support widescreen resolution (same as the JP version, and PC beta version). The highest resolution is 1280 x 1024. While I'd really like to play in true widescreen resolution (got a 20.1" widescreen LCD), I just play in windowed mode in full res and use the extra screen space to keep an eye on instant messages, web sites, etc.. Who knows, maybe they'll add widescreen support some time. Seeing as how the Xbox 360 version HAS to support it, you'd think they would update the PC version to do the same.



?
Kinda like:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6114/psupsofpsdi8.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6360/psueb9.jpg


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qoxolg
Oct 26, 2006, 11:39 AM
yeah, people always seem to forget that the 360 is also capable of 1280x1024.. but I would choose widescreen over that anyday..

and yeah, the 360 got dept of field, so graphicly the 360 == PC version + widescreen option and dept of field.

_dd_
Oct 26, 2006, 11:41 AM
My 360 is set to 1280x1024 and set to widescreen the other resolution sometimes gave me trouble

tycl
Oct 26, 2006, 12:38 PM
no comparrison. no pc nan match the 360 on a 50 in dlp. doesnt come close. also to buy the 360,s video card runs over 500 for the pc.

KirinDave
Oct 26, 2006, 12:46 PM
It's kind of pointless to whip out resolution numbers, especially when comparing monitors to HDTVs. Most monitors now are very good, but tend to be LCDs with a native resolution (an optimum resolution, everything else looks worse). HDTVs are even trickier because they have a native resolution and scaling software that really makes the picture quality vary from model to model, and from screen size to screen size.

And even if you could get some kind of parity there, the texture resolution comes into play, and that's a whole freaking nightmare to try and do graphical comparisons.

rpgposer
Oct 26, 2006, 12:48 PM
I have a 37" LCD HDTV hooked up to my PC via component (analog) video cable. It's native VGA resolution is 1376x768. I am running a custom desktop resolution of 1776x1000. PSU resolution is set to 1280x960. It looks great. 1280x1024 made the characters legs squat and funny looking. Of course, with a console, you don't need to fiddle as much to get the results you want.
As far as making a choice, I don't know what to tell you. Just try and glean information to make the best decision.
You may want to consider another factor as well. If playing with others is something you enjoy, the PC version may be better because there are more people with PC's and PS2's than people with X-Box 360's.

Jaylix
Oct 26, 2006, 12:49 PM
That being said, the vast majority of HD sets at this time have a native resolution of either 720p or 1080i at LEAST.

Since the 360 supports both of these resolutions, there will be no stretching by the TV's scaler engine.

Taichi
Oct 26, 2006, 12:55 PM
I would say PC version would be the best if you have a high-end one PC. 360 version is good enough though with the HD-quality. Though, there is some framerate drops even in story mode >.<. It's not a big deal but noticible when going through certain areas with alot of enemies...

rpgposer
Oct 26, 2006, 01:02 PM
My T.V. supposedly supports 720p and 1080i, but in reality, using a DVI-HDMI adapter revealed that both of these resolutions had some serious overscan. I was forced back into the stoneage to go back to component video. Moral of the story... caveat emptor when purchasing an HDTV. Do your homework and don't be afraid to spend some money to get the features you need.

Mikesnav
Oct 26, 2006, 01:02 PM
On 2006-10-26 10:38, tycl wrote:
no comparrison. no pc nan match the 360 on a 50 in dlp. doesnt come close. also to buy the 360,s video card runs over 500 for the pc.



1) A PC can output video to any display

2) There is no "360 video card" for the PC. The 360 GPU is radically different than anything currently available. However, this doesn't mean it takes a high-end card to run PSU to look like the 360 version. A $120 card can do that, easily.

McLaughlin
Oct 26, 2006, 01:12 PM
On 2006-10-26 11:02, rpgposer wrote:
My T.V. supposedly supports 720p and 1080i, but in reality, using a DVI-HDMI adapter revealed that both of these resolutions had some serious overscan. I was forced back into the stoneage to go back to component video. Moral of the story... caveat emptor when purchasing an HDTV. Do your homework and don't be afraid to spend some money to get the features you need.



You win a point for knowing what that means.

rpgposer
Oct 26, 2006, 01:20 PM
On 2006-10-26 11:12, Zeta wrote:

On 2006-10-26 11:02, rpgposer wrote:
My T.V. supposedly supports 720p and 1080i, but in reality, using a DVI-HDMI adapter revealed that both of these resolutions had some serious overscan. I was forced back into the stoneage to go back to component video. Moral of the story... caveat emptor when purchasing an HDTV. Do your homework and don't be afraid to spend some money to get the features you need.



You win a point for knowing what that means.


Too bad I lost so many points by purchasing a cheap HDTV. I have had to resort to registry hacks for setting cutom video resolutions for a few of my games. At least they look nice. PSU looks pretty nice, too.

McLaughlin
Oct 26, 2006, 01:21 PM
I just want my damn game!

Ah well, at least the waiting is giving me a chance to get some points from Need for Speed: Most Wanted.

Saikyn
Oct 26, 2006, 01:25 PM
I bought PC version. It looks shit, I still would much rather have 360 version. Voice-Chat pwns, but I don't have a 360. I'd would def have bought 360 version if I had one. PC version so boringgg http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Markuswaters
Oct 26, 2006, 01:40 PM
I have a widescreen on my PC and it works great!^^

so... yes... its supported

Inazuma
Oct 26, 2006, 02:06 PM
pc doesnt support widescreen at all

KirinDave
Oct 26, 2006, 02:09 PM
Hopefully they will just patch it in to the PC version. Usually, adding non-4:3 aspect support is a simple matter of a new HUD layout, a bit of extra code for the view frustum (and sometimes culling), and a change to the graphics initialization.

Nuclearranger
Oct 26, 2006, 02:18 PM
Well the resolutions are not supported Yet.... allthough they might patch it.

I run the game in windowed mode anyway.... so...

Btw to whoever said computer graphics cards run up in the 500$+.......

You PHAIL

I have my X1900XTX ATI for only 250$ and you dont need nearly this much power to run the game well.

Jaylix
Oct 26, 2006, 02:22 PM
On 2006-10-26 11:40, Markuswaters wrote:
I have a widescreen on my PC and it works great!^^

so... yes... its supported



You are wrong. wrong wrong wrong wrong.

You are using your monitors built in scaler to force the 4:3 image to a 16:9 format. Stretching an image to fit a display = bad.

Chii
Jun 11, 2007, 09:36 PM
Recently installed PSU as I now have time, money, and a new laptop which will handle it just fine. And I can honestly say that it looks pretty decent on full screen at 1024x768. I am using a Toshiba Satellite which has one of those 17 in screens and the game runs quite decently xD Though I really have to figure out why I get slow downs because of fog and the names as they fade in and out -_-

APEXi
Jun 11, 2007, 10:34 PM
Xbox360 in HD has better lighting effects - otherwise PC is equal or better in other facets such as crisper textures, more consistent framerate - draw distance seems about the same
PC: Alienware Aurora AMD FX57, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon 1900XTX w/ Samsung 19" LCD
360: Olevia 32" HDTV

Daremo
Jun 11, 2007, 10:38 PM
They both look very good for different reasons. I have played both versions, and in the end did choose the Xbox version. Think about things like size of community, voice chat, screen shots (cannot do on Xbox), can your monitor run in standard mode with black bars on the side (my wide screen can), and then make your decision. Graphically the two are so very similar, just polished in different ways.

pikachief
Jun 11, 2007, 10:46 PM
they look about the same graphically but i like it on 360 because the bigger screen ^.^

and no i dont think it supports widescreen and i have no idea how resolutions work so i cant check if it does http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Tekershee
Jun 12, 2007, 04:06 AM
They really gotta add widescreen. Here's what it looks like on my PC http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

http://psutopia.com/uploadr/view/262

(Image tags removed due to stretching.)



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Mayu
Jun 12, 2007, 04:33 AM
PC http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

landman
Jun 12, 2007, 06:31 AM
360 has slowdowns, specially with firebreak -.-

Akaimizu
Jun 12, 2007, 10:36 AM
On 2007-06-12 02:06, Tekershee wrote:
They really gotta add widescreen. Here's what it looks like on my PC http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Widescreen is awesome. It gives you so much screen realestate outside of the HUD objects, and even chat bubbles.

I should take a picture of my full Xbox360 screen running at 1360x768.

And by the way, is that a Fender Lefty you have in the background? My first guitar is a Fender Righty, so I was just curious. At that distance, it's a little hard to tell, but I think I can see enough to see that all the tuning knobs are on the far-side of the guitar (hinting this is a definite Lefty-instrument).

Kent
Jun 12, 2007, 12:13 PM
Unfortunately, the 360 version doesn't support 1280x1024, even though the system actually does.

In short, PSU on the 360 supports two things: 4:3 and 16:9. 1280x1024 is a 5:4 resolution, and therefore, uses an upscaled 480p signal instead of just running the damn game like it should (thank Sonic Team for that one). :/ Theoretically, it should work at 1080i, but I haven't tested that. I have tested 720p and 1360x768, though, and they work with PSU quite well.

Ryoki
Jun 12, 2007, 12:15 PM
PS2 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

JAFO22000
Jun 12, 2007, 12:15 PM
Why are we arguing a topic from October??

Ryoki
Jun 12, 2007, 12:16 PM
On 2007-06-12 10:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
Why are we arguing a topic from October??


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_clown.gif

Daremo
Jun 12, 2007, 12:47 PM
lol Someone brought it back from the dead.

Akaimizu
Jun 12, 2007, 12:50 PM
Sadly enough. I would've never posted today if it wasn't for the fact that I think I saw a Lefty-Fender, in a picture, on the last page.

Tekershee
Jun 12, 2007, 01:02 PM
Nah, you're just seeing it in the mirror <_<

Akaimizu
Jun 12, 2007, 01:06 PM
Ahh. I see. Anyway. Love that Guitar make. It was the first of my Guitars, but I picked it up for the lovely vibrato that seems effortless to produce from them. I'll probably always have a soft-spot for them. You have the typical 3 single coil model, from what it looks like. Which is what I have except in blue. Double Humbuckers are nice, but especially for recording, I don't mind having the option of *using* a bit of noise from a single coil pickup, once in a while.

Tekershee
Jun 12, 2007, 01:20 PM
It's a shame I have no idea what you're on about http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Akaimizu
Jun 12, 2007, 01:27 PM
Sorry. Just a bit of guitar-talk. Music tends to be my passion, however, I've talked a bit off-topic, long enough.

On topic:

In general, there are plusses and minuses to both. Part of mine was voice chat, wide-screen, and that was the version my friends were going to play on. All individual preferences.


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Tekershee
Jun 12, 2007, 01:36 PM
Ah, I'm still trying to learn so _<_<

(gib PC widescreen already)