Armor units no longer for twinking?

[Wallin]

I don't know if this is written as instructions somewhere, but I went and got armor and the Perpa/Hit unit (+18) for my Force so that they could equip the Compadri. It actually says in the item description, "Boost to ATA (attack accuracy)".

But apparently units don't affect your base numbers in the status window, so unlike PSO where you could use units to equip items with higher ATP, MIND, etc., weapons will now ignore the unit's bonus entirely and still reference your base stat.

So if anyone is planning to buy these just to be able to equip a weapon, save your money, for that it is worthless.



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[RussInDaHill]

wow...I was actually going to buy a unit to equip a new sword...thanks for the heads up!

[ProfessorZ]

It doesn't increase base but it does increase the overall. I like it tho but just for DFP and EVP

[Wallin]

Yeah, that's fine that it works at all, but not the way that I think most PSO players thought it would. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Kontra_Bandit]

I use slots for their purpose: stat increases. I think they're deterring people from using hand me downs.

[DoubleJG]

By not having them raise your base stats, Sega was able to prevent Self-rushing.

An example would be, my new character will take just as long (in a sense) to level up to level 5 as the next guy's. If units increased base stats, I could do like in PSO; give him really good units, equip an extremely strong multi-hit weapon, and go solo a hard mission for mass exp rates. Do I miss this? In a sense yes, but units are useful nonetheless.

[RussInDaHill]

Good post dbl....didn't think about it that way....But I like it

[Xx3of19xX]

When twinking, you can still make sure your new characters have the best weapons available to their level. That already helps a lot without making it unbalanced.

[Klakalou]

sega really went out of their way to ensure no one can power level a la pso.

no more mags. u cant hand them off to a low lvl character for them to flash through the first 20 lvls.

everything about this game is the same as pso, just more time consuming. thanks sega for working so hard to rehash the same gameplay and slapping a new name on it.

[Guilty-Mirage]

I'm glad they got rid of hyper-PLing in a way. No more tradeable "mags", no more using various boosts to equip ridiculous gear early on, etc. It really cheapened the feeling of raising new characters in PSO, and yet I couldn't resist. >_<

[KiteWolfwood]

I don't know why you would say it is a rip off. I love my +18 Acc. It helps negate the -Acc from my bullets a lot.

[Bahamut89]

I could use the best wand at level 10 or something. I could not afford the best wand at level 10. Therefore, twinking is entirely possible.

[Wallin]

On 2006-10-30 14:01, KiteWolfwood wrote:
I don't know why you would say it is a rip off. I love my +18 Acc. It helps negate the -Acc from my bullets a lot.

"Rip off" was not the right word, you are correct. The topic has been adjusted to reflect such.

I was merely trying to point out for any old PSO players that units no longer can be used to twink so that anyone who bought them for that intention only could save their money (then they could buy the appropriate weapon for their levels, and more spells or armor instead).

And I'm not saying it's a bad system, I was just surprised that it changed from PSO.



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[Garnet_Moon]

I love my +32 atp slot. I was a little shocked when I equipped it my Dual Slashers still ahd a red X on them, but it was only one level away to use so it wasn't too bad. The slot still was useful though.

Now, all they need to do is create an "Add <insert part> Slot" item and my armor will have all 4 slots useable.

[Guilty-Mirage]

It's hard to beat +32 ATP for 1500 meseta.

[Kanore]

Yeah, I like this new system. That and the fact that you can have one character on all three classes.

[Sorenia]

The fact that they got rid of mags is the one thing that really annoys me. They could of put strict stat reqs on them or whatever if PLing was a worry. Getting the PM's in exchange is a big gip. They all become humanoid and it doesn't seem like there will be much use for them in battle. A decided loss of flavor from PSO :/.

[Cause_I_Own_U]

Hunters need all the ata they can get, especially beast ones

[wildstar]

On 2006-10-29 21:35, Wallin wrote:
I don't know if this is written as instructions somewhere, but I went and got armor and the Perpa/Hit unit (+18) for my Force so that they could equip the Compadri. It actually says in the item description, "Boost to ATA (attack accuracy)".

But apparently units don't affect your base numbers in the status window, so unlike PSO where you could use units to equip items with higher ATP, MIND, etc., weapons will now ignore the unit's bonus entirely and still reference your base stat.

So if anyone is planning to buy these just to be able to equip a weapon, save your money, for that it is worthless.



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This is good to know. I was pondering this last night, actually.

I took a chance on a 58% synth... and it worked! I made my first 5* B-grade (a twin saber weapon with Light attribute). But... I need about 90 more base ATP to use it, rofl.

I was wondering if base units would cut down my waiting time, but I noticed with Perpa/Attack (or whatever its called, raises overall ATP 18) it didn't change my base.

That's cool though. Now that I've lucked out and gotten this weapon to synth on my first try I have a goal to shoot for: get my ATP higher!

Good thread, Wallin. I'm sure others are wondering about this, too.

[Alisha]

On 2006-10-30 16:35, Guilty-Mirage wrote:
It's hard to beat +32 ATP for 1500 meseta.



offline ive seen a s-rank unit at GRM i believe that gives around 100 atp but its costs like 600,000 meseta O_O