List your arsenal

[Eternal_Drake]

Simple as that, list your characters, their class, and their arsenal. Feel free to include armor/units. [the point of this thread is really to see how common 6* weapons are, considering i cant find any I need]

Drake - 36 Ranger

Weapons:

Vullseye +5
Shigga Amza +4
Arb Biga +4
Greasegun
Greasegun

Sell me a 6* rifle damnit.

[Randomness]

Um... 4x Slyrod, Alteric, the 3* Yohmei wand, Parzanata, B'Duki Oga, Sakano-zashi, Ryo-Sagazashi.

[Laranas]

Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)
34% Light Stinger (5)
Autogun (5) x2
Hajirod (4)
Cane (4)

Armor:
14% Ice Gi-senba
Sta / Mind
Mega / Wall
Me / HP Restore

(Bought random units, really... can't synth a 6* wand until S-rank missions are out)

[ZiG]

Dual Beatgun+4
Dual Beatgun+4
Dual Beatgun+4
Dual Beatgun+4
Vullseye+3 (to be sold off when Guntecher is out)
Stinger+4 with Gatling+3

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 19:41, Laranas wrote:
Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)


Niiiice.

[Chris28]

Chris - CAST - LvL 49 - Hunter

5* Calibur +2 (Dark)
5* Soda Caliba +2 (Light)
5* Twin Ripper +2 (Fire)
5* Dual Slasher +2 (Ice)

[Variance]

Harmonia - lvl 46 Hunter

14% Ice Ryo-Deran +2
16% Dark Ryo-Deran +3
14% Elec Ryo-Deran +3
Neutral Ryo-Deran
Neutral Dual Buster
Neutral Twin Sucker

21% Fire Busterline
Sta/Mind
Perpa/Power
Stella/Guard



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[Vorpal]

Level 19 Wolfen: Force--Wartecher
-Hajirod? (2)
-Twin Knives (Ice/2)
-Compadri (2)
-Some Yohmei 2 star wand
-Read above

Level 11 Keaton: Hunter--Fortefighter
Sabera+Ortegun?
Lance (Earth/2)
Lance (Ice/2)
Lance (Fire)
Lance (Lighting)
Gigush (Ice)

Too scared to grind a lot since of Story Mode.



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[Laranas]

On 2006-11-20 19:42, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:41, Laranas wrote:
Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)


Niiiice.

Yea, I'm pratically a Wartecher in the Neudaiz Relics, people say. I do about 120 dmg a hit, 160 with the Lv1 PA (to monsters without the high def, at least)

[Flamingo99]

Horatio - FOnewm lvl. 31

3 Slyrods +1
Rayharod (for healing)
Daliteri
Canara
and a 3 star GRM gun (what ever its called).

[Blu_Swade]

Ria - 86 RAnewearl

Weapons:
Beamgun
Beam Vulcan
Bullet Master
Shiga Boma
Jitseen
Knife
Thunder Cannon

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 19:45, Laranas wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:42, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:41, Laranas wrote:
Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)


Niiiice.

Yea, I'm pratically a Wartecher in the Neudaiz Relics, people say. I do about 120 dmg a hit, 160 with the Lv1 PA (to monsters without the high def, at least)


When they get around to releasing the Dark and Light bullets I'm coming there with a level 20 Barada Megiga

[Randomness]

On 2006-11-20 19:47, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:45, Laranas wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:42, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:41, Laranas wrote:
Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)


Niiiice.

Yea, I'm pratically a Wartecher in the Neudaiz Relics, people say. I do about 120 dmg a hit, 160 with the Lv1 PA (to monsters without the high def, at least)


When they get around to releasing the Dark and Light bullets I'm coming there with a level 20 Barada Megiga



You don't want level 30? I'm pretty sure expert classes come before light and dark bullets.

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 19:52, Randomness wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:47, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:45, Laranas wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:42, Eternal_Drake wrote:

On 2006-11-20 19:41, Laranas wrote:
Laranas - 50 FOmar

Weapons:
50% Dark Twin Stinger (5)


Niiiice.

Yea, I'm pratically a Wartecher in the Neudaiz Relics, people say. I do about 120 dmg a hit, 160 with the Lv1 PA (to monsters without the high def, at least)


When they get around to releasing the Dark and Light bullets I'm coming there with a level 20 Barada Megiga



You don't want level 30? I'm pretty sure expert classes come before light and dark bullets.


Oh in that case, level 30 Barada Megiga. I'll have 5 shots then kekeke.

[FenixStryk]

As of now, I'm using 4 Rikalbari +2s (all bow PAs maxed out), a Slyrod for Resta/Reverser, and a +6 silencing Lacanata.

[onami]

2x Hajirod +4
1x Slyrod +4
1x Rayharod +4
4x Scepter +4
2x Autogun +4
1x Baybari +4

Want to get another bow.. looking for maybe an Alteric +6.. and eventually replace my Slyrod/Rayharod with Hajirods and maybe the Scepters for Canes.

[Overtaken]

Calibur (ice)
Calaud (fire)
Halbenata (dark)
Dual Slasher (ground)
Ryo-Deran (lightning)

[Blu_Swade]

Ria - 86 HUnewearl

Weapons:
Crimson|Beamgun
Knife|Vulcan
Svaultus Sword
Nightwalker
Asami-Zashi (I think... doesn't matter, once I get the materials I'm synthing new ones XD)

My Hunter class tools of death ^_^ (Same char though...)



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[juno-6]

jenz darko - 26 hu ranger -> guntecher

2x Twin Lockgun (4*) plasma/fire PB
2x Arb Roga (4*) ice/ground PB
Greasegun / Bastara
some 3* spear?

[Itsuki]

I play on the jp server, but I posted this in another thread, so I figured I'd copy/paste it here:

Ok, this is what I will generally have on me at any given time:
2 B-rank 6* Youmei Kubara Dualies +5
1 B-rank 5* Tenora Dualies (found, never bothered to upgrade)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Dualies
2 B-rank 6* GRM Kubara Rifles +5
2 B-rank 6* Youmei Rifles +3
1 A-rank 7* Crossbow
1 A-rank 7* Card
3 B-rank 5* Wands (various brands)
2 B-rank Daggers +5 (change around, I have a bunch of elements and brands)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Saber (Jiitoshiin)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Crea Saber
I listed B-rank and A-rank just to show that I really don't carry around very many A-rank weapons, and I'm level 59 (hell, they all go for atleast 75k either way, except for the Crea. I picked up my Crea for a hot 17k).

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 22:20, Itsuki-chan wrote:
I play on the jp server, but I posted this in another thread, so I figured I'd copy/paste it here:

Ok, this is what I will generally have on me at any given time:
2 B-rank 6* Youmei Kubara Dualies +5
1 B-rank 5* Tenora Dualies (found, never bothered to upgrade)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Dualies
2 B-rank 6* GRM Kubara Rifles +5
2 B-rank 6* Youmei Rifles +3
1 A-rank 7* Crossbow
1 A-rank 7* Card
3 B-rank 5* Wands (various brands)
2 B-rank Daggers +5 (change around, I have a bunch of elements and brands)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Saber (Jiitoshiin)
1 A-rank 7* GRM Crea Saber
I listed B-rank and A-rank just to show that I really don't carry around very many A-rank weapons, and I'm level 59 (hell, they all go for atleast 75k either way, except for the Crea. I picked up my Crea for a hot 17k).


Nice stuff, I reaalllly want the Kubara Yohmei Dualies and Kubara GRM rifles, fucking nobody sells them though.

[Itsuki]

Because the boards are still expensive on the US servers. They're all of 20k from the npc once extended classes get implemented. Right now, they're drop only from the boss of hakura on A. Needless to say, thats a bit less common. They're also mainly for looks XD

[-Crokar-]

im on the xbox i have 2 partizans no element. 2 halbert one dark 14%, one ground 10%,pallash(spelling?) 30% light. and the starting beast handgun with lvl 10 frozen hit.

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 22:26, Itsuki-chan wrote:
Because the boards are still expensive on the US servers. They're all of 20k from the npc once extended classes get implemented. Right now, they're drop only from the boss of hakura on A. Needless to say, thats a bit less common. They're also mainly for looks XD


Cant wait for that expert class update then. Also I know they look good, but arent Kubara supposed to get good if you grind them enough?


Also just noticed your sig I really hate the In the Time of the Butterflies book (assuming thats where you drew the name Mirabal from)

[Itsuki]

Actually, thats not where I drew the name Mirabal from, I actually knew someone with that last name and thought it'd be a pretty last name for my character.
EDIT: I really don't think its all that uncommon of a spanish last name. Theres plenty of people with it.

And they are good when grinded very far. But a +5 kubara is really roughly equivalent to a +5 non-kubara. They're for all intensive purposes equal.



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[Flunky]

Hmm, let's see if I can remember...

Light Durandal (20ish %, +2) with a b'duki oga (+6).
Lightning Durandal (16ish %, +2) with an ortatore (+4)
Earth Durandal (26%, +4) with an autogun (+4 or 5)
Ice Ripper (18%, +4) with an ortatore (+6)
Fire Ripa-zashi (20ish %, +3 or 4) with an ortatore (+5)
Dark Ripa-zashi (20ish %, +3 or 4) with a b'duki oga (+2, meh).

Big fan of the gun/blade combos, if one couldn't tell. Going figunner for obvious reasons (S sabers, S daggers, one-hander claws, crossbows, machineguns n' pistols oh my?), though if I can help it I'll never touch a cursed double-blade. Why must figunners get such a bad rep over fanboy weapons? Why?!? Ahem.



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[Zato-2TWO]

Meylen Arkheld - 20 CASEAL Ranger

Sniper +4 - Plasma Shot
Shigga Wadda +2 - Barada Banga
Greasegun/Buster (dark) - Frozen Fury/Rising Strike
Magga Gres/Seva Sata (earth) - Frozen Fury/Rising Strike
Lockgun/Stina-zashi (dark) - Plasma Hit/Buten Shuren-zan
SUV Weapons - Hegel/Grom Buster

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[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 22:32, Itsuki-chan wrote:
Actually, thats not where I drew the name Mirabal from, I actually knew someone with that last name and thought it'd be a pretty last name for my character.
EDIT: I really don't think its all that uncommon of a spanish last name. Theres plenty of people with it.

And they are good when grinded very far. But a +5 kubara is really roughly equivalent to a +5 non-kubara. They're for all intensive purposes equal.



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Well thats convenient since I usually stop at +5 ish.
For Kubara I will push it as far as I can stay at High though.



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[Blu_Swade]

I don't grind my weapons, I replace them too often for it to be worth the trouble ^_^ maybe that'll change once I get online...

[Garnet_Moon]

Uragirimono - 50 Beast Hunter

Twin Ripper x6
Dual Slasher x2
Halbert x1
Calibur x1
Autogun x1

Varying elemental %, and various grinds.

Seiryu - 26 Newman Ranger

Ryo-Louktore +4 x1
Ryo-Ortotore +4 x1
Ryo-Betatore +4 x1
Brahoh +6 x1
Gimp Shotty + Gimp Dagger
Gimp Machine Gun + Gimp Saber

I'm in the process of phasing out the last two slots because I never use them. Maybe another Brahoh and another Ryo-Betatore.

[Eternal_Drake]

Im probably going to buy a bunch of high level grinders since mine never turn out above +5, then just keep grinding and breaking til I have a good +10, funds permitting.

[Itsuki]

On 2006-11-20 22:37, Blu_Swade wrote:
I don't grind my weapons, I replace them too often for it to be worth the trouble ^_^ maybe that'll change once I get online...


Online, theres almost no reason not to grind. A +5 6 star weapon will almost always be equivalent to or stronger than a 7 star weapon of the same type. And a +5 6 star weapon is probably half the price or less than a 7 star weapon's cost. Not only that, but the 6 star will have less maintnece cost since it costs probably about half as much to refill its PP.

[Blu_Swade]

I assume if you're online you can't retry your grind if it fails, am I right?

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 22:47, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2006-11-20 22:37, Blu_Swade wrote:
I don't grind my weapons, I replace them too often for it to be worth the trouble ^_^ maybe that'll change once I get online...


Online, theres almost no reason not to grind. A +5 6 star weapon will almost always be equivalent to or stronger than a 7 star weapon of the same type. And a +5 6 star weapon is probably half the price or less than a 7 star weapon's cost. Not only that, but the 6 star will have less maintnece cost since it costs probably about half as much to refill its PP.


The only quarrel I have with that is ATA, but that applies mostly to rangers and it isnt too large of a gap between guns, but its still there.

[Itsuki]

No you can't. Weapon's gone. But I was counting in failed attempts assuming that it was about a 75% chance or so to get it to +5. Which seems about reasonable to assume. But even if you assume as low as a 30% or 50% chance, its still cheaper than shelling out 75-80k+ for a 7 star, even more for an 8 star.

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 22:50, Blu_Swade wrote:
I assume if you're online you can't retry your grind if it fails, am I right?


Oh you can retry it, you just have to replace the weapon you broke first.

[Laranas]

On 2006-11-20 22:47, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2006-11-20 22:37, Blu_Swade wrote:
I don't grind my weapons, I replace them too often for it to be worth the trouble ^_^ maybe that'll change once I get online...


Online, theres almost no reason not to grind. A +5 6 star weapon will almost always be equivalent to or stronger than a 7 star weapon of the same type. And a +5 6 star weapon is probably half the price or less than a 7 star weapon's cost. Not only that, but the 6 star will have less maintnece cost since it costs probably about half as much to refill its PP.


While that's true in theory on the US servers we have (for the most part) up to 5* weapons. There's a few 6*'s floating about, but since S-rank missions aren't open let's just stick with 5 for this arguement. A +5 3* weapon won't compete with the 5* weapon that's availible. A 4*, yes, but not 5*. The chances of grinding a 4* into a 5* are the same as grinding a 5* into a 6*, and with my experience grinding, getting to +4 on a B has been a blessing enough (even with Grinder B+7's...). If most people are like me, you carry barely enough money to replace a broken weapon if it breaks grinding.

Basically what I'm saying is: on the JP servers it seems more useful since 6* -> 7* is a rank change and I guess because of it there's a large price difference. But here we're limited to B and maybe I just havent gotten insane with grinding, but my +5 Autogun had nothing on the just-as-easily grinded +3 Lockgun.

[Remedy]

Level 48 Force 10

Hajirod +2
Hajirod +2
Hajirod +2
Hajirod +2
Hajirod +2
Alteric +5

Gi-Senba 44% Ice
Gi/Magic (place-holder until Me/Quick)
Mega/Wall (place-holder until Tero/Legs or Mega/Rainbow)
Me/HP Restore

=>.>=



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[Flunky]

Never realized that PP recharge was also based on the weapon's rank. Thanks for pointing that out (I always try to conserve PP, so my highest recharge cost has been about 150 so far with an average recharge cost of about 30ish, heh).

[Remedy]

On 2006-11-20 22:47, Itsuki-chan wrote:
Online, theres almost no reason not to grind. A +5 6 star weapon will almost always be equivalent to or stronger than a 7 star weapon of the same type. And a +5 6 star weapon is probably half the price or less than a 7 star weapon's cost. Not only that, but the 6 star will have less maintnece cost since it costs probably about half as much to refill its PP.Y'know, that's true, but there's one critical difference that'll make me take a 7* over a superiourly-grinded 6*.

7* weapons look cooler. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif (Plus, they'll have better ATA if you're a RA/HU/a non-caster Expert class)

[Nietzsche]

3x Twin Ripper+4 (Fire, Dark, Ice)
Dual Slasher (Dark)
Calibur (light)
Halbert (Earth)
Durandal (Fire)
Autogun+4

Gigaline with 10% Fire
Perpa Power
Me/ HP Restore

i JUST got my gigaline for basically all i had on me so no body unit yet...any suggestions?

[Remedy]

Mega/Wall -> Tero/Legs (if you don't hate Evasion) -> Mega/Rainbow

[Nietzsche]

<3 Evasion thanks for the advice

[onami]

How are cards compared to guns?

[Itsuki]

On 2006-11-20 22:54, Laranas wrote:
While that's true in theory on the US servers we have (for the most part) up to 5* weapons. There's a few 6*'s floating about, but since S-rank missions aren't open let's just stick with 5 for this arguement. A +5 3* weapon won't compete with the 5* weapon that's availible. A 4*, yes, but not 5*. The chances of grinding a 4* into a 5* are the same as grinding a 5* into a 6*, and with my experience grinding, getting to +4 on a B has been a blessing enough (even with Grinder B+7's...). If most people are like me, you carry barely enough money to replace a broken weapon if it breaks grinding.

Basically what I'm saying is: on the JP servers it seems more useful since 6* -> 7* is a rank change and I guess because of it there's a large price difference. But here we're limited to B and maybe I just havent gotten insane with grinding, but my +5 Autogun had nothing on the just-as-easily grinded +3 Lockgun.


The lower the rank, the better it grinds. Lower ranks get more per grind and have a higher success rate per grind. And it also depends on what kind of weapon we're talking about here.

For example, a +5 GRM 3 star rifle has more atp than an ungrinded 5 star grm rifle. No joke.

Hell, if you really want to look at rifles. A +10 GRM 3 star rifle has almost the atp of an ungrinded 8 star grm rifle. (480 comapred to 500, 7 star have 443)

This also depends on brand. Youmei grinds the best to +5, Tenora gets damn near nothing till +9. So, generally speaking a 3 star youmei melee weapon at +5 will have roughly the same atp as an ungrinded 5 star youmei melee weapon. While for GRM you'd probably have to get to +7-ish, and for Tenora you'd probably need to get to +9 or +10 to get the same effect.

Tenora weapons also grind really poorly. So I usually recommend not even grinding tenora at all. Though, if you are grinding tenora. I think it goes worth mentioning that for nearly all weapons, anything from +5 to +8 GRM will have roughly equal or higher ATP and 1.5x the pp when compared to a equally grinded tenora weapon.

Now, as for B-rank weapons getting to +5, I don't know how everyone else's success is. But I'm like 10 successes and 3 failures right now.

EDIT: Cards have higher atp than similar star handguns. They fire slightly slower, but the bullets home in on monster, have higher elemental affinity, and it shoots 3 at once. All in all, its like twice the damage of a handgun.

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[Genobee]

Jigero

Soda Caliba Dark 12% +0
Rivet Gloves Light 22% +4
Mukrudi Earth 22% +0
Alseva Drada Fire 10% +0
Aldaga Rippa Lighting 18% +2
Durandal Ice 14% +4
B'duki Oga Ice 5% +4

[Eternal_Drake]

On 2006-11-20 23:17, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2006-11-20 22:54, Laranas wrote:
While that's true in theory on the US servers we have (for the most part) up to 5* weapons. There's a few 6*'s floating about, but since S-rank missions aren't open let's just stick with 5 for this arguement. A +5 3* weapon won't compete with the 5* weapon that's availible. A 4*, yes, but not 5*. The chances of grinding a 4* into a 5* are the same as grinding a 5* into a 6*, and with my experience grinding, getting to +4 on a B has been a blessing enough (even with Grinder B+7's...). If most people are like me, you carry barely enough money to replace a broken weapon if it breaks grinding.

Basically what I'm saying is: on the JP servers it seems more useful since 6* -> 7* is a rank change and I guess because of it there's a large price difference. But here we're limited to B and maybe I just havent gotten insane with grinding, but my +5 Autogun had nothing on the just-as-easily grinded +3 Lockgun.


The lower the rank, the better it grinds. Lower ranks get more per grind and have a higher success rate per grind. And it also depends on what kind of weapon we're talking about here.

For example, a +5 GRM 3 star rifle has more atp than an ungrinded 5 star grm rifle. No joke.

Hell, if you really want to look at rifles. A +10 GRM 3 star rifle has almost the atp of an ungrinded 8 star grm rifle. (480 comapred to 500, 7 star have 443)

This also depends on brand. Youmei grinds the best to +5, Tenora gets damn near nothing till +9. So, generally speaking a 3 star youmei melee weapon at +5 will have roughly the same atp as an ungrinded 5 star youmei melee weapon. While for GRM you'd probably have to get to +7-ish, and for Tenora you'd probably need to get to +9 or +10 to get the same effect.

Tenora weapons also grind really poorly. So I usually recommend not even grinding tenora at all. Though, if you are grinding tenora. I think it goes worth mentioning that for nearly all weapons, anything from +5 to +8 GRM will have roughly equal or higher ATP and 1.5x the pp when compared to a equally grinded tenora weapon.

Now, as for B-rank weapons getting to +5, I don't know how everyone else's success is. But I'm like 10 successes and 3 failures right now.

EDIT: Cards have higher atp than similar star handguns. They fire slightly slower, but the bullets home in on monster, have higher elemental affinity, and it shoots 3 at once. All in all, its like twice the damage of a handgun.

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I have only gotten 1 weapon to +5, but I have gotten to others to +4 with no failures so far [all B]

[onami]

Sweet. I'll just wait for cards. I was gonna try and grind some handguns to +10.. but cards sound much better.

[Blu_Swade]

are cards force only? they sound fun, I never managed to get any in PSO... maybe I should go blast De Rol Le (I think he drops one...)

[Laranas]

I'm pretty much 3/5 on +5 Autoguns and 4/7 on +4 Canes, 1/5 on +5 Canes. I only really use GRM, but if I get my hands on some good C Grinders (I have like 60 bases to convert) than I don't see why not to grind them higher. I'll check the stats tomorrow and see if those autoguns really do compare with the ungrinded lockgun. and so forth.

If I can use C's and do the same dmg as using B's, it'd make switching classes a lot easier.

[Genobee]

why even bother grinding out a 3 star and wasting the money when there all gonna be useless in december, 6stars and 8 ranks with me the main stay come decmeber.

[ViciousXUSMC]

my weapons:

Hajirod +4
Hajirod +4
Hajirod +4
Cane +4
Cane +4
Autogun
Autogun
Baybari +2 (5* bow)

Thats it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif might push for +5/6 one day but I dont see the risk/reward being worth it for the 10 extra damage I might do.


I dont agree with the grinding explanation above, you need to read into it more check psupedia, not all weapons grind the same from each company so while GRM or Yomehi may grind better as X weapon, Tenora may be much better with Y weapon.

As a force GRM is the best wand, and Yomehei is the only rod/bow maker so its pretty easy to pick what your going to use.



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[Remedy]

*snickersnort* @ wands

[Nani-chan]

Vullseye (5)
Burzaihoh (6)
Ryo - Betatore (6) x 3
Ryo - Otore (6)
Canara (6)


My burzaihoh has much better stats but I failed grinding 4 others this high.


Canara (6)
PP 725
Tech 391

Vullseye (5)
PP 1207
Atp 402

Burizaihoh (6)
PP 1500
Atp 406

Ryo- Betatore (6)
PP 1240
Atp 122


Armor:
Gigaline 20% Fire
Mega / Power
Mega / Wall
Grom Buster

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[Mio]

Mio Beast Huntress

Halbenata (5) 50% Dark
Halbenata (5) 20% Dark
Halbenata (2) 10% Dark
Halbenata (2) 10% Dark
Autogun (5) [i know i need a sword..]

[ViciousXUSMC]

I love my canes, i prefer them over the rods by far just in heavy duty healing/reverser areas I need the rod so I can have them ready in a moments notice.

DPS is much higher with the canes, techs lvl faster, miss less spells, and I have my gun to shoot stuff with http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

nothing to sniker over http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Ras]

Wands are awesome, you just have to carry a bag full of them and/or rely on rods for backup. The TP difference is practically nil until we're able to put 4 of the same element tech on a rod (+12%), and even then I don't think the extra 8% damage will make up for a wand's ~30% faster casting speed. Rods are good if you need fast access to resta and reverser, however.

Level 40 force, carrying
Hajirod +3
Slyrod +1
Cane +4
Cane +1
Cane +1
Autogun +? for box breaking and tagging
Alteric +5 (the 6* kubara bow)

[ViciousXUSMC]

Nice bow make it yourself or buy it?

I wish I had never gotten a slyrod it was a waist, my C rank's grinded beat it out easy and costed less to refill, the haji was the first B rank worth having. Canes are great TP almost equal to the haji but with about 200 less PP to spend.

[daylight129]

38% Fire Calaud +6
22% Light Calaud +5
17% Ice Calaud +3
14% Thunder Calibur +1
16% Ground Twin Ripper +1
26% Dark Ripper +1/Ortotore +5

[Dymalos]

On Xbox 360 Network Mode:

Drake (46 Hu 10 Cast)

44% Light Halbert +2
24% Lightning Halbert +2
28% Ice Halbert +2
14% Fire Halbert +2
26% Dark Halbert +2
22% Earth Halbert +2
26% Fire Rivet Gloves +1
22% Lightning Rivet Gloves +1
18% Light Rivet Gloves +1
10% Ice Calibur +1
26% Fire Calibur +1
22% Dark Calibur +1


Exzeph (39 Ra 8 Fo 3 Beast)
Dual Beatguns +5
Dual Beatguns +5
Dual Beatguns +5
Arb Biga +5
Ryo-Rayratore +5
Betatore +6
Gatling +5
Greasegun +6
Greasegun +6
44% Ice Stinger +1
44% Fire Stinger +1

[EC_Subbie]

2x Vullseye (3)
2x Shigga Bigul (2)
Some kind of dagger, grinded 4 times
Autogun (2)

[Shiro_Ryuu]

Shiro Ryuu - Level 34 Human Male Hunter
Alseva Drada
Dual Slasher
Twin Stinger
Wire Gloves
Wire Gloves

Sayuri - Newman Female Ranger
Twin Lockguns +1
Greasegun + Saber
Greasegun + Saber
Blaster
Sniper

Tai Yin - Beast Male Hunter
Gudda Fest
Gudda Fest
Pike
Sevara + B'duki Had

[Remedy]

On 2006-11-21 01:13, Ras wrote:
Rods are good if you need fast access to resta and reverser, however.And that is why I snickersnorted. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Also, it's more like a 400 PP difference between a 5* Wand and 5* Rod.

[Mystil]

Elathia - level 18 Human Hunter 4

Main weapon - Lacanata - 14% light
>> Lacanata - 12% fire
>> Lacanata - 16% dark
>> Lacanata - 16% ice
>> Pikenata - 24% dark
>> Twin Buster
>> Ryo-Palasra - 24% fire
>> Ryo-Sagazashi - 30% fire

Yes I do manually switch them out.


Weapons I can't use yet:

Parzenata - 20% light
Dual Slasher - 44% light

[Tra]

Force Weapons:

6stars:
Alteric +10
Tomoirod +6
Me / Quick

5stars:

Hajirod +6
Cane +6
Cane +4
W'gacan +6 (5 star moatoob wand)

4stars:
Slyrod +0 haha


Hunter Weapons:

5stars:
Durandal 50% Dark +4
Durandal 44% Ice +1
Seva Drada 30% Dark +2 (5 star moatoob saber)
Mukrudi 44% Earth (5star moatoob spear)
Mukrudi 34% Dark
Mukrudi 18% Fire
Halbert 24% Lightning +2
Halbert 20% Dark +3
Halbert 18% Earth +1

Rivet Gloves 22% Ice +1
Dual Slasher 22% Fire +1
Twin Ripper 50% Lightning +1
Twin Ripper 34% Dark +1
Twin Ripper 14% Fire +1
Aldaga Rippa 14% Fire +1 (5 star moatoob dual dagger)
Calibur 38% Holy +1
Calibur 26% Dark +1
Calibur 25% Ice +4
Calibur 25% Ice
Calibur 16% Lightning +1

4stars:
oops none http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

3stars:
Autogun +7 =P



dunno I'll screenshot them all if ya don't believe me =)





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[Kuya]

Newman Ranger

If I remember...
Brahoh +6
Brahoh +6
Blaster +5
Shigga Wadda +5
Arb Oga +5
Mukpat +6
Lacanata +7
Lacanata +7

Although I'm high enough to use B rank - I wanna max a few C ranks as backups before I start breaking Bs lol. I end up having two weapons with same grinds so when one breaks - it doesn't hurt as bad. Then I build up a new one and go from there http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Thoridan]

Level 36 Human Fighter (soon to be Fortefighter)

38% Ice Gudda Ribat +2 (5* knuckle)
24% Fire Gudda Ribat +2
30% Dark Soda Caliba +3 (5* Sword)

Armor: Megaline

--Sword PA lvl 20
--Knuckle PA lvl 20 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif very nice.

[MayLee]

Yohmei wand
Starra +5
Slyrod
Compadri
Handgun
Saber



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[Laranas]

Yea, I looked into it, and with the exception of ATA (which I do fine enough with as a Force) 3* weapons are far better than 5*'s after a few grinds, and I can make 3+ for the price of the 5* board, so I have those extra chances.

[Krltplps]

Level 44 Newman Force

Weapons
1x Rikalbari
x4 Hajirod +3
x3 dual wielded Ortotore + Canara

Armor
Ageha-Senba
Hel / force
Mega / Wall
Me / MP Restore

Photon Arts
Reisei-Sou (10) - Frost for the bow
Frozen Hit (10) - Frost for the guns

Foie (20) / Rafoie (20)
Barta(4) / Rabarta (6)
Zonde (14) / Razonde (16)
Diga (20) / Radiga (20)
Resta (13) / Reverser (8)

Since I use frost on my guns and bow I've held off on leveling it to 20 till last. I'm just letting Resta and Reverser go up normally through use, but for the attacks I'll stick to one type till it hits 20 then move to the next. (As you can see, right now I'm focusing on Zonde and Razonde)

Partner Machinery
Name: Hapsby
Level: 46 - Pure TECHNIC
Did roughly 9 levels worth of newbie wand creation then got sick of it. The rest has been feeding Diga boards into it. Dumped roughly 310k worth of Meseta into feeding.

[Laranas]

So I grinded a rayharod to +7 (after that it was fifty-fifty with a +9 on 0 luck) and it has
1097 PP, 359 Tech (94 TP req)

A store-bought Slyrod (1* higher) has
1096 PP, 293 Tech (157 TP req)

and a ungrinded Hajirod (2* higher than the Rayharod) has
1134 PP, 365 Tech (222 TP req)

Considering the cost (since the mats were already in my inventory), it really cost 1000m for the board and about 1500m for the grinder boards. A good deal cheaper but I'll still keep my Hajirod for that extra-resta worth of PP in combination with it.

[Natrokos]

Hajirod+6
Hajirod+5
Baybari+4
Duel...I don't remember best C rank grm knives +6

I have another Hajirod but I haven't grinded it yet...I use it when I run out of pp on my other rods and bow.

[Reiichi]

Hunter:
5 x 3* GRM swords of various 14-20% elements grinded +4
1 x 4* GRM sword of about 20% fire +1
1 x 5* yohmei saber of about 20% shadow +1
1 x 5* yohmei twin sabers of about 25% ice +1
1 x 3* GRM twin sabers of about 20% shadow +4
1 x 3* GRM pistol +5

Ranger:
1 x 5* GRM rifle +5
1 x 5* GRM rifle +4
2 x 3* GRM rifle +5
1 x 5* GRM twin pistols +5
1 x 5* GRM twin pistols +4
2 x 5* Tenora Shotgun +1
2 x 3* Tenora Shotgun +5

Force:
1 x 5* GRM wand +5
1 x 4* GRM wand +1
1 x 2* GRM wand +5 (my first grinded weapon!)
5 x 3* Yohmei wand +4
3 x 3* GRM pistol +5

Other Ranger:
1 x Fluorescent Bulb Dark +3
1 x 3* GRM pistol +5
5 x 3* GRM twin pistols +5


Wands are awesome, and will more likely save someone's life than a rod.

For grinding to +5 for 5* weapons, these are my records.
1/1 - 5* GRM wand
1/1 - 5* GRM twin pistols
0/4 - 5* Yohmei rifle
1/3 - 5* GRM rifle

Initially I had no fear. I went 1/3 synthing 5* wand, and +5'd it. (even though I had over 50%). I went 1/3 synthing 5* twin pistols, and +5'd it. I went 1/3 synthing 5* rifle, and +5'd it. Good ole newbie days. Then I synthed 7/12 (initially 4/9 with a 66%+ rate) and then failing
the first 6 rifles going to +5. I eventually left my last successful rifle at +4. So I am 3/9 for 5* grinding to +5 =Þ though I do have 2 weapons that I left at +4.

Yesterday with max luck I went 3/9 on +5'ing 3* twin pistols. And then proceeded to go 6/6 on +5'ing 3* pistols. I hate my grinding luck or lack thereof -_-

[Natrokos]

I have had weird grinding experiences.

I got all my gear to 4-6 since I was like level 20 a total of 15 or so weapons with only a single break (the knives I use I got to 6 with like C+3 grinders since I didn't even get the big deal yet).....I changed to hunter (To open up wartecher option later.) Broke 5 duel slashers with B+9 grinders on a max luck day before finally getting it.

[Laranas]

I figure I'll do it the way I did it in RO: Make 5 weapons using the board (it's at 90% and I have mostly all the mats cept maybe extra Soural/El Photon) and grind them up until I only have 1 left.

[ryuartyi]

Hajirod (4)
Ulrod (3)
Ulrod (0)
Bayberi (0)

I know, it sucks.

[Kuya]

I just grinded a Brahoh from 6 to 7...now keep in mind that I am using a character with three star luck. I am in my office sneaking on weapon grinding sessions and I THOUGHT I was grinding my 0 Brahoh but it was the +6 one...using the +1 grinder - not reading - not watching the bar or anything. Then after my co-worker stops bothering me I check my inventory and I have a +7 lol. That was the BEST non-stressful higher level grind I've had yet! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Shadow_Wing]

Main Equips:
Vullseye(5)
Vullseye(5)
Vullseye(5)
Vullseye(5)
Shigga Amza(5)
Shigga Amza(5)
Dual Beatgun(5)
Dual Beatgun(5)
Flourensent Bulb(4)
Mechgun <-- O_o a non 5*
Back ups:
2 Green Dual Handguns (4)
1 Green Rifle (2)
1 Yellow Rifle (2)

All GRM of course ^_^v

[Mouseklip]

1x Vullseye +1
4x Burzohoh +1
1x Dual Beatguns +1
1x Greasegun +2
1x Shigga Amza +2
Plus a saber i can't think of.

[Ravennittes]

Hajirod (4)
Hajirod (3)
Hajirob (3)
Hajirod (3)
Hajirod (2)
Baybari (0)
(not carried anymore:)Florecent Bulb (2)

[Grr]

Grr. Lvl 46 Ranger 10/Force 3 (pure ranger goodness)

Vullseye+3 x3 (ice20 fire11)

Dual Beatguns+3 x3 (fire 20 electric20)

Arb Oga (5* dualies from tenora)
Note : Im Slowly phasing my beatguns out in favore of more Arbs , cause iver got the cash to carry an extra Arb to make up for PP difference

Shigga Amza +2 (ice 17 fire9)

And Two mukpats (one 30% dark and one 20% electric)
for when i run across those bullet resistant mobs that have large target zones (tend to be light and earth based enemies , minus Pals , who are electric)

after i finish my Arbs i have nothing to worry about except getting more bullets leveld (thinking baout earth cause Megid casting Jarbas SUCK.)


Side note : Pm is hitting 100 ranged today! woot ! (contact me if you need any bows/guns made http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif )


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[Ronzeru]

Calaud (3) 14% Lightning

Calaud (3) 18 % Darkness

Soda Caliba (4) 24% Ice

Rivet Gloves (3) 14% Light

Gudda Ribat (4) 20% Darkness

Alseva Drada (4) 22% Fire

Aldaga Rippa (4) 24% Darkness

Palasra (3) 12% Earth

Daga Steg (1) 22% Lightning

Autogun (0)

[tetsuo_3035]

Hunter equip:
18% fire dual slasher maxed pa
neutral twin ripper pa lvl 14
14%elec seva drada with ice ortotore lvl 10 sabre pa and maxed bullet
12%ice ripper with fire b'duki oga maxed bullet and pa
Ranger equip:
guns up there with lvl 10 and 13 bullets^^
vullseye with lightnin bullet lvl 10
dual beatgun with dual freeze lvl 7
and 5 star dual beatgun from tenora works no bullet yet

waitint for expert class so i can deal out the dmg like a pro

[Maskim]

20%Fire Calaud +5
16%Light Dual Slasher +4
12% Earth TwinRipper +5
20%Dark Twin Ripper +2
50% Ice Twin Ripper +5

and from my 3 levels of ranger..
2(3*) GRM Twin handguns +4 and +5
2(4*) Tenora Twin handguns +5 and +2
1(3*) Yohmei twinhandgun +5 or 6
1(3*) Tenora Saber +4
1 Greasegun +3

[DummieAcount]

41 Hucast
22% Lightning Calibur+3
14% Fire Calibur+2
24% Ground Soda Caliba+3
24% Ice Soda Caliba+2
14% Dark Soda Caliba+0
38% Ice Flourecent Bulb+4
Ortotore+3

[Itsuki]

On 2006-11-20 23:40, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
I dont agree with the grinding explanation above, you need to read into it more check psupedia, not all weapons grind the same from each company so while GRM or Yomehi may grind better as X weapon, Tenora may be much better with Y weapon.


Now while I will agree that is true, there is still a basic formula. For example:

GRM always start out with two big grinds and end in two big grinds.

Youmei grinds about the same for 1-2 and 6-10. But grind 3 is slightly higher, and grinds 4 and 5 are huge.

Tenora generally starts out with very small grinds (about half the size of the "small" youmei or grm grinds), and they slowly increase till +8. But generally even at +8, they're still smaller than the "small" youmei and grm grinds. Then +9 and +10 are 3-4x as big as the +8 grind. Meaning you get about 6-8 grinds worth from +9 and +10 alone.

There are a couple exceptions to this, but they're few and far between. The tenora that do grind well are Spears... and uhh... twin daggers... and I guess their wands don't grind that bad TP wise. Thats as long as you ignore the fact that a grm wand is going to have only roughly 10 less TP from +5 to +9 on B-rank wands and is still going to have 1.25x the PP (We're talking about the difference between 500tp and 490tp, 10 is basically nothing, but tenora gets 41tp from the 10th grind alone, so that makes them have a bigger difference).


I have had weird grinding experiences.

I got all my gear to 4-6 since I was like level 20 a total of 15 or so weapons with only a single break (the knives I use I got to 6 with like C+3 grinders since I didn't even get the big deal yet).....I changed to hunter (To open up wartecher option later.) Broke 5 duel slashers with B+9 grinders on a max luck day before finally getting it.
Thats jsut the way grinding works. Sometimes you have a good day, sometimes a bad day. But generally you still make it out good in the end.

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