PSU-Item: I'm in your party, stealin' your rares.

[Garnet_Moon]

So here is my drop list on The Holy Shrine C from the runs I did earlier today.

Stelnium
Kubara Wood
Cyral
Chicotite
Marseline
Dianaline
Tornado Throw x2
Scape Doll
Various other crafting rares.
The usual not-rare-but-in-a-rare-box drops.

Now, don't let x2 only by Tornado Throw fool you. Everything dropped in droves... but I don't have the exact number. I was with alot of people during the course of my outing today, so I didn't get it all. I just know these popped up on the screen. Alot.

Now, you're probably thinking "So?", well here's the thing.

A guy comes into the party, fresh. Brand new guy. Never been in the party before. All of a sudden, Random went from Random to "Give to the new guy so he can catch up to the number of rare drops the rest of us got combined. Yeah, you heard me. Combined. That even includes the trash rares you got on that Rainbow Beast run.".

He got countless numbers of rare ores, wood, etc. When Tornado Throw dropped twice in the same mission... guess who got them both? He did. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Y'know what broke the curse? A Scape Doll. >.>



This post can be summed up with one word:

lolrandomizer


Anybody agree with this word? It can be from just reading this thread, or from personal experience. And before you ask, yes, i'm bored.

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[Gazette]

I've been kicked for getting all the rares before...
The only thing random does is randomly choose a favorite to give all the stuff to.



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[Genobee]

enjoy your uless less crap

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-11-21 23:09, Genobee wrote:
enjoy your uless less crap


THS drops tons of crafting items I use for both my PM's. I love this mission so very, very much. T_T

Rares to toss in a shop are just a bonus. It's the trash synthing materials I want:

Zepotite
Dianaline
Marseline
Gamotite
All items used to upgrade into Marseline

All of which drop like, one every kill or box. I wuuuuuuuub it! =^o^=

[ViciousXUSMC]

Hmm i have solo'd that mission dozens of times and gotten maybe one rare ore every other run, be glad you get so many drops http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Wasnt this guy was it?

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i319/Tanaue/Forum/th_FridgeCat.jpg

[Genobee]

How is Marseline rare?

[Gazette]

On 2006-11-21 23:12, Genobee wrote:
How is Marseline rare?


Apparently it's rare enough for people to sell it at 10k+...

Why? I haven't the slightest clue...

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-11-21 23:12, Genobee wrote:
How is Marseline rare?


Marseline and Dianaline(used to synth into Mars) are used in pretty much every 5* weapon. Hell, I think my Baybari needed like 4 Marseline, and my Ryo-Betatore needed like 5 Dianaline. I think.

They have both been pretty uncommon drops until the new missions where unlocked. Now they seem to drop as often as monomates on some of them.

Because of how frequently they drop i'll be able to mass produce weapons and keep my shop stocked. Right now it just has one gimp Twin Slasher and an overpriced PrimitiveMoatoobIdol in it. >.>

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[Aaomi]

To me everything feels like it is rare... as long as I am activly looking for it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[ViciousXUSMC]

here I fixed it up for Garnet:

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/2032RARE_FridgeCat.jpg

marseline is 1.2k at npc where I get mine 98% of the time. If you know a good solo mission for it let me in... I am tired of the shop prices for it.



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[Garnet_Moon]

On 2006-11-21 23:18, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
here I fixed it up for Garnet:

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/2032RARE_FridgeCat.jpg


Coca-Cola with a YELLOW cap?!! OMG! I'll buy that for $100 on ebay. D:

Gimmeh!

[ViciousXUSMC]

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif my wifes aunt is like a coke collector she has all the old school glass bottles and crazy cans and stuff.

[Nietzsche]

random hates me , i almost never get rares and male beast has yet to get lvl 3 luck that i've seen

[ViciousXUSMC]

I feel random is pretty random I see my name pop up pretty often, it feels like order but just shuffled to me.

I am glad because to this day in all other MMORPGS I definitly had the worst luck. We are talking 2 or 3 max lvl characters with less rares found than one person finds by the time they get 1 character 1/2 my lvl.

[Mystil]

Don't too much like random myself - one guy left a game I made because it was set on random. I learned pretty quick what was so bad about it. The only thing that will screw up "set in order" is when you are 60/60 and what is cycled to you is an item you don't already have.

[daylight129]

Lol....I think you all know how I feel about this.

[Thrash777]

On 2006-11-21 23:19, Garnet_Moon wrote:

On 2006-11-21 23:18, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
here I fixed it up for Garnet:

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/2032RARE_FridgeCat.jpg


Coca-Cola with a YELLOW cap?!! OMG! I'll buy that for $100 on ebay. D:

Gimmeh!



It's CocaCola with Vanilla... nothing special... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif lol

[Turambar]

Well, that is quite a few rares that dropped from a Holy Shrine run. I havn't seen a single Tornado Throw drop yet after about 2 levels of Cs and Bs >.>

At anyrate, yeah, random really isn't random. In my usual party, only about 2 people will get all the drops. Can you say roll hax?

[Alisha]

this thread reminds me of the horror of lotting under 100 on AF2 in dynamis -.-

[Zalana]

The random is broke in this game and so is the set in order. If I see someone get multiple rare after rare I boot them. It's ridiculous cause no one else gets anything then.

[_Deliverance_]

Random is not broken. It's as random as can be. Just because One person gets uber lucky with the random, doesn't mean it's not a random selection. Ever heard of gambling? The odds are pretty random, and yet some people get lucky several times in a row.

Bitch about not having a "Fair selection" choice, but don't bitch about "Random". This isn't a CD player. Deal with it already. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/eviltongue.gif






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[panzer_unit]

Order could work better for rares. I've seen it fork over 3 rares in a row to the same character in a 4 player team, probably handing them out as if they were no different from normal garbage. I started using Random for rares after that. At least it does what it says.

I kicked some dude from a team yesterday after he joined the game, said his hello's and helped clear a couple rooms, then found a shady spot and took a nap or something while the rest of us continued fighting.



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[_Deliverance_]

If you only get one rare per board, the same person will always get it when set on "in order"

[AlMcFly]

Random is still the ideal in bigger parties. Unless you are a Give Finder whore...

*edit* Oh, and of course Set in Order kept giving to the same guy. Every mission it starts back over with the number 1 name on the list give rares in order. Hardly ever does a mission give off 6 rares. So guy on bottom of list will never get any. That's the definition. I still find myself running into parties and telling them what Set in Order means. Nobody researches these things...


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[Shinou]

On 2006-11-22 08:20, Zalana wrote:
The random is broke in this game and so is the set in order. If I see someone get multiple rare after rare I boot them. It's ridiculous cause no one else gets anything then.



Wow that really makes you an ass. On random with a full party everyone has 16.66% chance i think of getting a rare. so just because they're getting luckier than you doesnt give you the right to boot them. Whats your online name so that i make sure not to play with you?

[aceccc]

On 2006-11-21 23:19, Garnet_Moon wrote:

On 2006-11-21 23:18, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
here I fixed it up for Garnet:

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/2032RARE_FridgeCat.jpg


Coca-Cola with a YELLOW cap?!! OMG! I'll buy that for $100 on ebay. D:

Gimmeh!



Never seen vanilla coke?

[Koyasha]

In order apparrently (I haven't tested this myself but I should) sets the order by the first person to load into a block. So it's not even per mission, it's per block. And if the same guy that loaded into block 1 loads into blocks 2 and 3 first, then the first rare in each block will go to him. If In Order was persistent between blocks and missions, then it would be fair for rares...but how often do you see six rares drop in one block?