Are your stats how they should be? Chances are, they arn't.

[Arieta]

Did you know that the JP servers have better stats on all their characters compared to the US version? The Xbox characters *used* to have equal stats with the JP players, but they were brought down to our level (the PS2/PC) characteres whom are *vastly* lower then JP players.



LV50 STATS: Hunter Type LV10

Race Human Cast Beast Newman
Sex Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman
HP 1467 1421 1664 1618 1853 1759 1349 1303
ATP 506 484 540 518 601 578 432 410
ATA 172 165 195 188 147 140 182 175
TP 153 158 82 88 93 99 182 186
DFP 127 131 145 149 138 143 114 118
EVP 141 146 105 111 131 136 149 155
MST 52 57 32 34 38 40 82 89
STA 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 12

I have a level 50 female beast that's a hunter level 10, now according to the JP stats I should have 1759 health... But I don't.. I have 1,560ish. Many other stats are quite lower then they should be to our fellow JP players. Is this just a bug, or are we getting fucked by ST so the JP players have a bigger advantage then us? They're already several updates ahead of us, do they really need better stats then we do as well?

Mind you, this doesn't apply to just hunters, it applys to all classes. All their classes have better stats then us, just the hunter ones are the most obvious since they have the biggest differance between our version and the JP version.

[watashiwa]

My Cast Female Hunter at level 50 has 1469 HP, 481 ATP, and 123 DFP.

According to your list, I should have 1618 HP, 518 ATP, and 149 DFP..

[Arieta]

That's a list of the stats for the JP version of the game. Think of the differance you have now, and think how huge of a gap that'll be even later in the game. Higher and higher level we get, the weaker and weaker we'll be compared to the JP players.

Edit: minor spelling errors.


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[Ether]

Are we sure they never changed the hunter stats on the JP version, like they did recently on 360? My JP force has the same HP has my US version one, so I think the changes only apply to hunters

I can confirm that HUcaseal used to have 1618 HP though

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/epyonic/ding.jpg

[BioWarrior]

and how old is that list? chances are the stats could be different on JP servers since its creation

[Arieta]

The changes were forces was pretty minor. I believe it was only around a 2 TP differance so it's not something someone will really pick up on unless they wrote their stats down.

But yes, I would love a JP player from here to let me know if these stats that are shown on JP PSU sites are still true, or have they been changed. Has to be a HU type though since they had the biggest changes. Forces very minor and I can't recall if the RA stats were that differant.

[Arieta]

On 2006-11-22 03:59, BioWarrior wrote:
and how old is that list? chances are the stats could be different on JP servers since its creation



Hard to tell, I'm not that good at reading japanese http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif I found it on one of their sites though and one of ST's customer guys (clumsy) seemed quite interested in learning more about this.


QUOTE:

The GM group is currently investigating these occurances, but we require additional information from the community. Can players can post the following information in the same format so we can gather more effectively:

Race:
Gender:
Job type and level (hunter, ranger, force):
Current level and equipment (Armor/slot items):
Stats Before patch:
Changed Stats and amounts after patch:

Please be honest and include any additional information about the problem in a short paragraph below the requested information. We appreciate your help .

END QUOTE

[Itsuki]

Chances are that list is old and was never updated. I'm wondering it a bit myself though. Technically speaking, thats the amount of HP a Fortefighter has at that level. But then again, I'm pretty sure on the jp servers, Fortefighters have the same HP as Hunters.

Now, generally speaking, anything thats just a system update, such as a buff or a nerf, is already on the US servers. This applies to all bug fixes, interface changes, level fixes and changes. I would have assumed any class changes would have already made their way over aswell.

[Arieta]

It could be old, but what sparked my interest in the matter personaly was that Clumsy seemed to be quite interested in the manner want said that the GM's are looking into it.

[xTATANTULAx]

Are you sure that type level is not affecting those stats??

[Arieta]

Depends on if the stats are true or not. I have a hunter type 10 that doesn't match those stast at the same level. YET on the 360 version they did match them until only recently (the last patch).

I can only see two things that are possible from this.

1. The stats are old and they got fixed but the 360 version was bugged and happened to have the old stats and they were corrected.

2. The stats for the 360 were correct and they attempted to correct it for the PS2/PC versions but ended up messing up the 360 stats instead. IE they used our PC stats and copied them over to the 360 instead of the other way around.

This would be easier if there was a JP HU that played, seems like we only have the RA's and FO's here =Þ Either way Clumsy is saying they want to look into the matter but need more info. Main reason why I posted it.

[Itsuki]

You know, this reminds me of something that probably nobody else remembers.

Ok, so heres the setting. Sega announces a 36 hour long maintnece to add extended classes. After the 36 hours, servers go back up, but with no changes. The reason they give? They were having problems with hunter's stats. Yup, thats right, or more specifically "It was verified there is a problem with the attack power and defence power of hunters."

If you want to read for yourself -> http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=111

[Mystil]

S rank is going to suck hard for us. I bet those monsters were'nt juiced down in the same way the player stats were to keep it on even playing field.

[daylight129]

The more of a challenege the better.

[Mechageo]

Are your stats how they should be? Chances are, they arn't.
Any changes SEGA has made to your stats have made them what they should be.

Those are just out of date.

[Thrash777]

Hmm... this is weird...

[Sexy_Raine]

Hunters don't derserve that good of defensive stats, if anything give us forces better defensive stats.

[Blu_Swade]

On 2006-11-22 07:55, Sexy_Raine wrote:
Hunters don't derserve that good of defensive stats, if anything give us forces better defensive stats.


attack and defense are what hunters do best. ^_^

[panzer_unit]

I thought it was screaming for heals even when the closest thing they've got to a Force is my Cast Ranger.

[happy_cricket]

Oh noes! Now we might actully die once every 10 levels!

[Reihn]

Based on my research I've found the Hunter mods to currently be HP1.18 ATP1.16 DEF1.20 (on US PC version). If you compare those to the Fortefighter and Fighgunner stats, and compare Ranger to Fortegunner and Guntecher, you'll see those new lower stats are more lined up. It's highly likely the stat listings based from the JP servers for the level 10 basic hunter were taken from before the time they received the changes. The Xbox360 also likely retained these older more powerful stats. In my opinion, the lowering was used to bring the hunter more inline with Fighgunner's intended mods, and allow Fortefighter to be much more powerful without having to raise its stats crazy high.

Old Hunter: HP1.30 ATP1.25 DEF1.45
Fortefighter: HP1.30 ATP1.28 DEF1.50
Fighgunner: HP1.16 ATP1.16 DEF1.20
New Hunter: HP1.18 ATP1.16 DEF1.20

[KiteWolfwood]

HaHa JP servers, we are in your PSU killing your dudes with lower stats.

[Nietzsche]

Hunters don't derserve that good of defensive stats, if anything give us forces better defensive stats

please tell me your joking

[Randomness]

On 2006-11-22 14:34, Nietzsche wrote:

Hunters don't derserve that good of defensive stats, if anything give us forces better defensive stats

please tell me your joking



He should wait for fortecher and more EVP.