i hate sword...but will axes be worth it to fortefighters?

[vash2022]

Swords seem to do horrible damage for how huge and slow they are. So i was wondering if Axes will fix that by being super powerful, but kinda slow, weapons of destruction. If not ill go back to single daggew...

[VanHalen]

hey swords are fun http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif anyway axes think of swords but VERY POWERFUL and hit one enemy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[mulletblob]

Can you get axes in offline story mode?

[vash2022]

well ig ot a calibur with 26% lightning and it does only 102 damage, while a single hit from my sucker does 120, come on now.

[VanHalen]

On 2006-11-23 18:50, mulletblob wrote:
Can you get axes in offline story mode?



nope

[VanHalen]

On 2006-11-23 18:51, vash2022 wrote:
well ig ot a calibur with 26% lightning and it does only 102 damage, while a single hit from my sucker does 120, come on now.



but thats 102 to all the enemies around you compared to one btw whats a twin sucker is that a joke on twin sabers or a real weapon

[Banert]

Twin sucker is the GRM 4 star twin dagger.

[vash2022]

eh, i dont use twin suckers, just one sucker, and its a type of dagger/double daggers. And 102 sucks for how slow it is, because with my 8 hit combo i can kill all three monsters around me with the crazy damage im putting out per hit. Plus as a beast i need alot of hits cuz of low ATA.

[VanHalen]

^ thanks now i know i was really confused what a sucker was. but its your choice what weapon you use i like swords personally cause it hits many but did you try grinding the sword that also helps too

[vash2022]

well how much damage do u do with what sword/element/element of monster.

[Genobee]

um 102? I do 300-400 per swing with my Soda Calibra and 500- 600 with a PA, My aldega rippa do like 100-200.

But yea got watch the Axe Video's people doing like fucking 700 or 800 damage and those are the A ranks, I'm sooo getting a Axe for my Forte Fighter.

[P_C_A]

Axes are sexy.

[vash2022]

Nice what element?



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[VanHalen]

On 2006-11-23 19:04, vash2022 wrote:
well how much damage do u do with what sword/element/element of monster.



im a newman the highest i do is 86 lol
oh and he's lvl 23 its extra mode im gonna have him as my main on network

EDIT: umm i mean 60-79 i crititaled 86


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[Genobee]

On 2006-11-23 19:10, vash2022 wrote:
whats a soda calibra and PA?



Soda Calibra= Tenora brand Cailbur, PA= Photon Art.

[vash2022]

isnt tenora the company with high ATP but low ATA, which would suck for a beast like me

[VanHalen]

no they have high accuracy but low PP

[Midicronica]

Simple questions. How many enemies can axes attack simulatenously?

Also, I've seen the stats of the axes from PsuPedia and PSOW, the base attack for the 7* axe is 1018. Now this seems a little over the top, so I was wondering is that actual atp for that weapon? 1018 atp is f***ing crazy.

[vash2022]

hm, that might be good then, because if i hit more i dont need alot of PP right? what do u say.

[VanHalen]

On 2006-11-23 19:21, vash2022 wrote:
hm, that might be good then, because if i hit more i dont need alot of PP right? what do u say.



well sure if you want to go PSO style but its in preference really

if you do use tenora weapons since they also regenerate slow you'll need PP conservation so you cant really overdo the PAs which i think could make you a better hunter since you dont need to rely on PAs so if you weapon runs out you can still fight fairly well

also i think tenora is the only one who makes axes


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[vash2022]

On 2006-11-23 19:21, Shadow_Moses wrote:
Simple questions. How many enemies can axes attack simulatenously?

Also, I've seen the stats of the axes from PsuPedia and PSOW, the base attack for the 7* axe is 1018. Now this seems a little over the top, so I was wondering is that actual atp for that weapon? 1018 atp is f***ing crazy.


there a vid on youtube of someone doing the PA where he hit two monsters at once, i dont know about damage, hit was hitting for 200~800.

[BloodDragoon]

102 hit with a cailibur with 26% lighting? What were you hitting? One of the lightning element robots in Endrum Reminants? O.o I have a 26% darkness element calibur ungrinded that averages over 200 damage per hit per target on Holy Grounds A with LV 20 Tornado Break hits going as high as 700+ on criticals with the second swing in the combo. I've also noticed swords seem to have a higher chance of making a monster flinch when hit.

[Cause_I_Own_U]

The second axe PA does a combo of attacks infront of you and can hit 2 things each hit and can knock things down, it does great damage and is not quite that slow... slower than a spear but faster than a sword, the only problem is it misses alot for anyone but a cast

[Flamingo99]

hmm.... do Crea Axes exist? If so humans and newmans will be able hit 2 enemies with their Axes, but do less damage.

[Cause_I_Own_U]

yeah but they will hit 3, it already hits 2

[vash2022]

so for beast they suck?

[Cause_I_Own_U]

probably would work if you equiped a good accuracy arm unit

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SWMrj_MG1gI

i found the video its at the end of the clip, also double saber is in there

[Genobee]

I like the claws Hadoken thingy, But I'm sooo getting a fucking axe.

[Slayer_Aros]

If your going to go fortefighter i'd think you would be crazy not to use an axe. You may hit a bit slower or miss a bit more, but the massive damage will easily make up for it.

[Genobee]

Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*

[VelosofLight]

I still want to see the Laser Cannon. Haven't even heard mention of it around here...

[Arieta]

On 2006-11-23 23:14, Genobee wrote:
Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*



Actually, Axes arn't exclusive to Fortefighters. The only weapon that I've seen that is exclusive to only one class is the double saber. One of the mage hybrid classes can use Axes.

[Garnet_Moon]

OK, take the damage from a B grade Sword that isn't Yohmei, and then multiply it by about 4x per strike, per mob in the swing radius.

Worth it? *slaps you*

[EnixBelmont]

On 2006-11-23 23:25, Arieta wrote:

On 2006-11-23 23:14, Genobee wrote:
Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*



Actually, Axes arn't exclusive to Fortefighters. The only weapon that I've seen that is exclusive to only one class is the double saber. One of the mage hybrid classes can use Axes.



Protranser, actually. onl;y A rank though.

[VelosofLight]

Protranser is supposed to get a bonus with traps. Has anyone here actually ever used a trap for anything but PM food? I haven't.

[Garnet_Moon]

Based soley on the traps i've seen people use in my random PUGs, i'm going to make it my personal mission to backhand the hell out of every Protranser I see. And then i'm gonna laugh.

EDIT: Maniacally. I'm gonna laugh maniacally and shine my Axe.

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[Cause_I_Own_U]

oh noes, level 20 elvaan dark knight flash backs!!!

miss miss miss miss miss, 39, miss miss miss miss

meanwhil the mithra dark knight

37 35 miss 30 35 80 40

[Zorafim]

I'd hate to tell you, but the 12 dex that mithras have isn't going to make that much of an accuracy change. If you're missing that much, either you were fighting monsters that were too high or you weren't eating your rice dumplings.

So, these axes, are the multitarget like swords, or are they just insanely slow sabers?

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[-Ryuki-]

Who cares about the swords. The Hunter specializes in more than one weapon, and Swords are redundant. It hits anything and everything in a AoE manner.

If you dislike swords, go with Spears, Knuckles, or the handy-dandy Flourescent Bulb =X

[Arieta]

Axes are single target from what I've seen in the videos. They do have a insane ATP though, but share the same low ATA that double sabers have.



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[Doh42]

Yo, Protranser isn't just about traps; they just do better with them than rangers (And just "how" better is that is yet to see; numbers on psupedia aren't impressive). But a job who can use all heavy weapons, level 30 melee arts, and guns..

I mean.. who didn't dream of playing PSO with a sword and a shotgun? That's what the protranser gives, after all.

Sure, their stats are very bad at rank 1, but once you reach rank 10, they are actually always "close 2nd" in stats (For example, the only 2 types with more HP than a protranser is Wartecher and Fortefighter... So yeah, they get more HP than a Figunner), except for ATA and ATP, where they are more average-ish... But they also have the best Critical hit rating... So meh, back-hand them if you want, <t's not like I will play outside my circle of friends when playing Protranser, but I will play it. A bit because of challenge, and a bit because of just how unusual a combo it is.

[_Deliverance_]

On 2006-11-23 23:25, Arieta wrote:

On 2006-11-23 23:14, Genobee wrote:
Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*



Actually, Axes arn't exclusive to Fortefighters. The only weapon that I've seen that is exclusive to only one class is the double saber. One of the mage hybrid classes can use Axes.



Rods http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[hucast21]

On 2006-11-23 23:25, Arieta wrote:

On 2006-11-23 23:14, Genobee wrote:
Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*



Actually, Axes arn't exclusive to Fortefighters. The only weapon that I've seen that is exclusive to only one class is the double saber. One of the mage hybrid classes can use Axes.



Actually the Srank double saber can be used by any class, since it's a "True Claire".

[panzer_unit]

Burn and Poison traps are great for big monsters that take ages to kill in A or B rank missions... if you don't have anyone with a big Foie spell or high-level Rifle fire skill handy. I haven't seen anything that would make me want to use traps as a ProTrancer. They've got access to bows, so that's all the status effects as well-covered as you could ask for.

... yeah Axes, probably not so hot for a beast. You need help on ATA and hitting frequently, not ATP.

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[Shinnaki]

Claws and Double Claws are exclusive to Fortefighter. :3

[Shiro_Ryuu]

no, Figunners and Wartechers can use them too, but only Fortefighters have s rank Claws and Twin Claws.

[Shinnaki]

*Re-reads PSUpedia.*

Oooohhhh. Now I get it!

"Exclusive access to S-RANK CLAWS and TWIN CLAWS"...

It meant just the S-Rank ones. Whoops.

Awwwwesome! Reading comprehension malfunction!

[Wheatpenny]

Fortefighter
Purpouse:Kill Everything.
Most Damaging tools of trade.Axe,Sword,Spear
Thank you,that is all...

[Genobee]

yea but I herd Protransers have shit stats, so using axe for them will probly be useless.

[Arieta]

On 2006-11-24 09:49, hucast21 wrote:

On 2006-11-23 23:25, Arieta wrote:

On 2006-11-23 23:14, Genobee wrote:
Well it is our exclusive weapon, *Drools over S rank axes....*



Actually, Axes arn't exclusive to Fortefighters. The only weapon that I've seen that is exclusive to only one class is the double saber. One of the mage hybrid classes can use Axes.



Actually the Srank double saber can be used by any class, since it's a "True Claire".



Actually you're wrong. The Srank Double saber "Crea Doubles" can be used by any RACE. It still requires Figunner to use it though.