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Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 07:53 PM
After the next update, with the new stuff being released, and all, how much are the new PAs and weapons going to be in the NPC shops?

Dj_SkyEpic
Nov 27, 2006, 07:54 PM
All I can say is... make money now~

Genobee
Nov 27, 2006, 07:56 PM
I'd say make over 100k, to be safe....I know I am.

Garnet_Moon
Nov 27, 2006, 07:57 PM
I gained 130k today from my shop, so i'm happeh. >:3

No matter how much it all is, i'm going to be prepared.

MaKaVeLi_X
Nov 27, 2006, 08:10 PM
Anyone know If items like Copernias and Kerseline Will be in Shops? Some A ranks require 15-20 Copernias so im sure theyll be a shortage of them.

Pandatron
Nov 27, 2006, 08:10 PM
Personally if your planning to complete deck yourself out i say save up at least 540k for the minimum. Below i'm using this price guide and i wanna have all A grade shortly after the release.

http://www.max-evolution.com/PSUStorePrices.htm

I've got 240k now and still got a long way to go x.x. Though this guide could be misleading for prices so if anyone has a better one please let me know.

MaKaVeLi_X
Nov 27, 2006, 08:14 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:10, Pandatron wrote:
Personally if your planning to complete deck yourself out i say save up at least 540k for the minimum. Below i'm using this price guide and i wanna have all A grade shortly after the release.

http://www.max-evolution.com/PSUStorePrices.htm

I've got 240k now and still got a long way to go x.x. Though this guide could be misleading for prices so if anyone has a better one please let me know.



Ty for that... It looks to be good, Ah im a lil worried my 400k saved isnt going to last me very long.

VelosofLight
Nov 27, 2006, 08:16 PM
I just want some Photon Arts and an Expert Class. Other than that, I'm fine.

Garnet_Moon
Nov 27, 2006, 08:16 PM
Oh my! The board prices are so friendly... I may invest on a slew of those and synth my own. Who knows, maybe i'll grind a few and put them in me shop?

Investment depends on how rare the synth materials will be, of course.

Random: The Junk everybody else vendors instead of taking 2 minutes to put it in storage and then craft it into something usefull at the end of the day. o.O

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Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:16 PM
God, what do you sell for 130k a day?

EDIT:And how much do you pay for mats?



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Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:16 PM
Also, what techs are being released, and how much for each?

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Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 08:18 PM
I'm not quite sure where people are getting these large numbers from.

7-star armor is 210k, 52.5k for the board plus mats, unless you get an 8-star which is only 90k, and you only need one of those.

I guess that weapon boards only make one weapon? Even so, that's another 110k * however many you want. So excluding the materials we're up to 200k + 110k*X. And changing to expert class is like what, 5k?

So unless the materials cost over 300k-800k, I'm not quite sure why I need to save up 500k-1m.

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VelosofLight
Nov 27, 2006, 08:20 PM
So, how much do you think the PAs will cost? I hope only 1000 each. That only makes sense.

Ryoki
Nov 27, 2006, 08:21 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:18, Wallin wrote:
I'm not quite sure where people are getting these large numbers from.

7-star armor is 210k, 52.5k for the board plus mats, unless you get an 8-star which is only 90k, and you only need one of those.

I guess that weapon boards only make one weapon? Even so, that's another 110k * however many you want. So excluding the materials we're up to 200k + 110k*X. And changing to expert class is like what, 5k?

So unless the materials cost over 300k-800k, I'm not quite sure why I need to save up 500k-1m.

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Garnet_Moon
Nov 27, 2006, 08:21 PM
I guess you've never tried to synth armor... haha.

Even the cheap ones have very low synth success. It's harder on armor than it is for weapons, but the armor can last alot longer than weapons. Allegedly.

Pandatron
Nov 27, 2006, 08:23 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:21, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I guess you've never tried to synth armor... haha.

Even the cheap ones have very low synth success. It's harder on armor than it is for weapons, but the armor can last alot longer than weapons. Allegedly.



Concurred, i have a pure armor PM and my best sucess rate with a Teroline is 53%, that's still wait 3 1/2 hours flip a coin and hope for the best which considering the investment is 99k that's alot of money to consider spending prior to the soon comming update (whenever that is x.x). Best sythn rate you can get on any armor right now is 70% 4* and less.

Midicronica
Nov 27, 2006, 08:25 PM
God, I looking at that NPC Store price guide, I saw how bad of shape I am, at the moment. >>;

Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:27 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:25, Shadow_Moses wrote:
God, I looking at that NPC Store price guide, I saw how bad of shape I am, at the moment. >>;



I haven't ever had more than 30k or so... I hope the techs arent too much...

Doh42
Nov 27, 2006, 08:30 PM
I'm starting to save up a bit of money, but hmm.. I have a question to all those who are saving up 500k or so meseta.
Once you get update, your dream class and ALL the A rank weapons you wanted from the shop(s)...

What next?

From what I gather, once we hit expert classes, we'll kill faster, even with B rank weapons. Once we get one or two A rank, even faster. Once we start getting level 21 arts, faster also.

But is there anything else in the next update? S rank isn't yet, is it? So you'll be farming better, faster, stronger soon... hmm.. Farming money for that update in a month or two's gear?

meh, I guess I'm just weird. I'm excited about the new stuff, but I consider I have about one month of time "alloted" by Sonic Team for me to build up once they open the next content, so I don't have to get it all on day one.

Weak
Nov 27, 2006, 08:33 PM
I raised a million and just stopped grinding for meseta right there. That stuff is tiring. Honestly 500k seems like it'd be enough to get yourself everything you want in the next update.

Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:34 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:33, Weak wrote:
I raised a million and just stopped grinding for meseta right there. That stuff is tiring. Honestly 500k seems like it'd be enough to get yourself everything you want in the next update.



I want to know where on earth people get all their money... I think I may have gotten a total of 200k in my entire playtime...

ChocoboChad
Nov 27, 2006, 08:34 PM
Well, I know the Gi techs are coming out. Gifoie, gibarta, gizonde, and gidiga. Dunno how much they are.

-Ryuki-
Nov 27, 2006, 08:35 PM
I need to farm..

hucast21
Nov 27, 2006, 08:35 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:20, VelosofLight wrote:
So, how much do you think the PAs will cost? I hope only 1000 each. That only makes sense.



10-36k

Pandatron
Nov 27, 2006, 08:35 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:34, Randomness wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:33, Weak wrote:
I raised a million and just stopped grinding for meseta right there. That stuff is tiring. Honestly 500k seems like it'd be enough to get yourself everything you want in the next update.



I want to know where on earth people get all their money... I think I may have gotten a total of 200k in my entire playtime...



Ebay...lol kidding, ya seriously where is this guy farming. The most i make is out of my shop and that's gambling with armors which is no fun x.x.

Merumeru
Nov 27, 2006, 08:36 PM
XD eh no sweat, as long as you can get 1 or 2 nicely ranked items and start dishing out more damage, you'll be able to get a refund faster than with cruddy B rank weapons and armor http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:40 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:36, Merumeru wrote:
XD eh no sweat, as long as you can get 1 or 2 nicely ranked items and start dishing out more damage, you'll be able to get a refund faster than with cruddy B rank weapons and armor http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif



I won't be able to afford anything more than a new tech or two come update time... I hope my firepower gets a good boost from going Fortecher.

hucast21
Nov 27, 2006, 08:40 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:34, Randomness wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:33, Weak wrote:
I raised a million and just stopped grinding for meseta right there. That stuff is tiring. Honestly 500k seems like it'd be enough to get yourself everything you want in the next update.



I want to know where on earth people get all their money... I think I may have gotten a total of 200k in my entire playtime...



Once you get to 500k+ it gets easy. I could make 50k a day by farming for meseta and synth mats but for the same reason as Weak, it gets tiring.

Weak
Nov 27, 2006, 08:43 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:40, hucast21 wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:34, Randomness wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:33, Weak wrote:
I raised a million and just stopped grinding for meseta right there. That stuff is tiring. Honestly 500k seems like it'd be enough to get yourself everything you want in the next update.



I want to know where on earth people get all their money... I think I may have gotten a total of 200k in my entire playtime...



Once you get to 500k+ it gets easy. I could make 50k a day by farming for meseta and synth mats but for the same reason as Weak, it gets tiring.



I essentially did Sleeping Warriors A all day with a couple NPCs for hours. It's good that I raised the meseta, but it was hell. I suggest getting it out of the way before the patch comes in, if at all possible.

Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 08:43 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:21, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I guess you've never tried to synth armor... haha.

Even the cheap ones have very low synth success. It's harder on armor than it is for weapons, but the armor can last alot longer than weapons. Allegedly.



I guess this is a personal experience thing, because I don't give a rat's behind about armor synthing and even though I have a 100 armor PM I will likely never synth my own armor ever again - you could say any time armor, board, and PM come up in the same sentence I block it out of my mind and turn my head with drool running down the side of my mouth going, "Duhurr? Could you repeat that after my brain has rebooted?"

I've got a Gigaline, that cost me enough as it was, and I'm fully aware of the BS synth rates, so I'm sure as heck not going to blow 200k-1m on multiple tries for one piece of armor with a random elemental percentage that probably won't even be useful against the other five elements in the game.

Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 08:45 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:43, Weak wrote:
I essentially did Sleeping Warriors A all day with a couple NPCs for hours. It's good that I raised the meseta, but it was hell. I suggest getting it out of the way before the patch comes in, if at all possible.

Or you could just go to work for the same amount of time, cash your paycheck, and check that eBay site... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif J/K. I definitely don't have the patience, or apparently the skill, to solo SW A all day long. I can't even get myself motivated to get on and solo my last 3 levels right now.


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hucast21
Nov 27, 2006, 08:49 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:43, Weak wrote:

I essentially did Sleeping Warriors A all day with a couple NPCs for hours. It's good that I raised the meseta, but it was hell. I suggest getting it out of the way before the patch comes in, if at all possible.



I sold my equipped Gigaline for 100k today which puts me over a million. Now I have no armor and am patiently waiting if the update is Thursday to buy the A rank.

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Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 08:50 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:45, Wallin wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:43, Weak wrote:
I essentially did Sleeping Warriors A all day with a couple NPCs for hours. It's good that I raised the meseta, but it was hell. I suggest getting it out of the way before the patch comes in, if at all possible.

Or you could just go to work for the same amount of time, cash your paycheck, and check that eBay site... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif J/K. I definitely don't have the patience, or apparently the skill, to solo SW A all day long. I can't even get myself motivated to get on and solo my last 3 levels right now.


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Hmm... I suppose I can try it, but soloing isnt my favorite thing.

Also, still would like definite price on the new techs.

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Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 08:53 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:49, hucast21 wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:43, Weak wrote:

I essentially did Sleeping Warriors A all day with a couple NPCs for hours. It's good that I raised the meseta, but it was hell. I suggest getting it out of the way before the patch comes in, if at all possible.



I sold my equipped Gigaline for 100k today which puts me over a million. Now I have no armor and am patiently waiting if the update is Thursday to buy the A rank.

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I'm tempted to do that really. I don't even want pink armor. >_< And the 20% fire resist mine has isn't really all that useful, at least not with the current monsters out.

Pandatron
Nov 27, 2006, 08:53 PM
I would solo to earn funding, but personally i have difficult getting a fast time soloing as a force not sure if anyone else does plus added to the fact that i still have a glob of techs to raise prior to the update to make sure when the new techs come out i don't have to worry about the old ones. Funding isn't a problem here currently assuming i'm not spending 200k+ on the new techs x.x

Dj_SkyEpic
Nov 27, 2006, 08:57 PM
I sell hajirods and all force candie-canes for a psu living. Got nearly 1million now.
I'll be fine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

hucast21
Nov 27, 2006, 08:57 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:53, Wallin wrote:

I'm tempted to do that really. I don't even want pink armor. >_< And the 20% fire resist mine has isn't really all that useful, at least not with the current monsters out.



Do it now before the update hits. When the update comes out, players will be able to buy 6* armor for 95k from NPC shops.

You won't be able to sell your 5* armor for 100k anymore.

Pandatron
Nov 27, 2006, 09:07 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:57, hucast21 wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:53, Wallin wrote:

I'm tempted to do that really. I don't even want pink armor. >_< And the 20% fire resist mine has isn't really all that useful, at least not with the current monsters out.



Do it now before the update hits. When the update comes out, players will be able to buy 6* armor for 95k from NPC shops.

You won't be able to sell your 5* armor for 100k anymore.



*selling the one his wearing now as he read it* o.o

RadiantLegend
Nov 27, 2006, 09:13 PM
I hope the new quests will pack more meseta. Cause i could use A LOT!!!

Weak
Nov 27, 2006, 09:13 PM
I hope you're certain the update is coming thursday.

It'd suck to run around in carline for a week.

Randomness
Nov 27, 2006, 09:16 PM
Nah, busterlines are 2k... not too bad. Unless you're me.

hucast21
Nov 27, 2006, 09:23 PM
On 2006-11-27 18:13, Weak wrote:
I hope you're certain the update is coming thursday.

It'd suck to run around in carline for a week.



I'll buy a megaline if the update isn't this Thursday or probably stop playing till they unlock expert classes & new weapons/armor/units.

_Deliverance_
Nov 27, 2006, 09:45 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:43, Wallin wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:21, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I guess you've never tried to synth armor... haha.

Even the cheap ones have very low synth success. It's harder on armor than it is for weapons, but the armor can last alot longer than weapons. Allegedly.



I guess this is a personal experience thing, because I don't give a rat's behind about armor synthing and even though I have a 100 armor PM I will likely never synth my own armor ever again - you could say any time armor, board, and PM come up in the same sentence I block it out of my mind and turn my head with drool running down the side of my mouth going, "Duhurr? Could you repeat that after my brain has rebooted?"

I've got a Gigaline, that cost me enough as it was, and I'm fully aware of the BS synth rates, so I'm sure as heck not going to blow 200k-1m on multiple tries for one piece of armor with a random elemental percentage that probably won't even be useful against the other five elements in the game.



I'm keeping my armor PM. It's on a mule, and who knows what future updates will hold for PMs.

Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 09:54 PM
On 2006-11-27 18:45, _Deliverance_ wrote:
I'm keeping my armor PM. It's on a mule, and who knows what future updates will hold for PMs.

Oh, yes, definitely! 30% for 9 star, 10.3% for 10 star... that's repeating 3s BTW... I can't wait! (Just kidding, I have no idea what 9 and 10 star are, and I don't think I want to know. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif)

ViciousXUSMC
Nov 27, 2006, 11:24 PM
just the best armor you can get from the npc can set you back almost 360k
(8* but I think we only get 7* next update wich is 210k)

expect 100k for weapons and then more to grind them.
(7* wep 90k)





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Eternal_Drake
Nov 27, 2006, 11:31 PM
Oh wow, those are some expensive items. Time to start reselling other people's items in my shop.

Wallin
Nov 27, 2006, 11:36 PM
On 2006-11-27 17:57, hucast21 wrote:

On 2006-11-27 17:53, Wallin wrote:

I'm tempted to do that really. I don't even want pink armor. >_< And the 20% fire resist mine has isn't really all that useful, at least not with the current monsters out.



Do it now before the update hits. When the update comes out, players will be able to buy 6* armor for 95k from NPC shops.

You won't be able to sell your 5* armor for 100k anymore.



Well, sold it for 105k, that went pretty fast. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif I hope they do patch this week because now I'm naked, LOL.

VelosofLight
Nov 27, 2006, 11:38 PM
Y'know, Gurhal is a really weird place. I mean, think about it. Not having glowing colorful energy lines on your clothes is now 'naked'.

I wonder what it's called when you're not wearing underwear.

Remedy
Nov 28, 2006, 12:03 AM
5x Grand Rod: 90,000 each (450,000 meseta)
4x Gi techniques: 12,000 each (48,000 meseta)
1x Hoza-senba: 95,000 (95,000 meseta)
1x Jobchange to Fortecher: 2,650 (2,650 meseta)

Total to get battle ready at next patch: 595,650 meseta

=-.-=;

Pandatron
Nov 28, 2006, 07:54 AM
On 2006-11-27 21:03, Remedy wrote:
5x Grand Rod: 90,000 each (450,000 meseta)
4x Gi techniques: 12,000 each (48,000 meseta)
1x Hoza-senba: 95,000 (95,000 meseta)
1x Jobchange to Fortecher: 2,650 (2,650 meseta)

Total to get battle ready at next patch: 595,650 meseta

=-.-=;



The amount of butt kicking after fully geared...Priceless.

Alpha-Hunter
Nov 28, 2006, 08:16 AM
geezz people. i just got over 100k this mourning! granted I did spent a good 90k experimenting with snything and PM feeding (PM only lv 18!). Just crafted a gigline this weekend with my lv 18 (striking) pm. don't know how I'll be able to equipe myself after the update. the next update will come after that and I still won't be complete from the last (upcoming) update!

Genobee
Nov 28, 2006, 08:47 AM
I'm not even gonnna bother sything 7 star armor, because Nanoresins will be a whore and a half to find. I have run relics A like 100 times and only found one so far... Also my gigaline had 37% syth and I don't have an armor mag and I lucked out it worked the first time. Seeing as how Hardline's are only able to be one element I'm just gonna spend the 210 k to buy one at the shop, and I will worriea bout S rank Armor when we get Whitl WIngs other wise I'm good.

Kent
Nov 28, 2006, 08:59 AM
On 2006-11-27 21:03, Remedy wrote:
4x Gi techniques: 12,000 each (48,000 meseta)


...Are they seriously 12k each? Isn't that a little much for a technique disk? :/

Magician
Nov 28, 2006, 09:02 AM
7* Shopping List
Daggerx1
Twin Daggersx1
Wandx2
Cardx2
Handgunx1
Armorx1

Total = 840k

Ouch.

thadarkman78
Nov 28, 2006, 10:07 AM
I don't even know why I'm still bothering to synth Durandals. Might as well start saving up my money now. (man, where's a Gurhal Credit Card when you need one?).