Trying to decide which PM to go for...

[Blu_Swade]

I can't decide which one I want, I've tried the 410, but I'm torn between the 440 and 450, although those may or may not be any good, so I'm lookin' to you guys for advice. Which do you recommend?
http://psupedia.org/images/a/a0/PMs.jpg

[Zorafim]

I myself am torn between 430 for looks or 450 for soloability. I would consider 410, but I hate the look so much it's not even an option.

[Pandatron]

<3 GH-440. It makes armor and people buy them at rediculous high prices ^_^. I'd say go GH-440 Model if that's what your tempted to do so, though if you want a tech related one to make ya staves i say GH-450 though i heard it got nerfed and doesn't have resta anymore but don't quote me on that.

Though i will say this get model that fits your interest or interest of others. Since i play Newman force i was going to get the 410 since it'll help pump out damage. Then i valued profit more than damage output so i went pure armor PM which resulted in being the GH-440 model which i've been happy with so far she's getting better at the leave her alone and kill stuff thing ^_^;;;.

[Choja]

440, because she has a unique strategy plan, even with the newer models. "Calculating" <3
It actually depends on what class you have and what you are planning to do with it, either synthing or battle.
Also, please do not hotlink from PSUpedia?

[Blu_Swade]

On 2006-11-29 20:16, Zorafim wrote:
I myself am torn between 430 for looks or 450 for soloability. I would consider 410, but I hate the look so much it's not even an option.


410's crap, trust me. I personally like the look of 440 I mean, who wouldn't wanna' rock one of these?
http://www.psupedia.org/images/8/82/GH-440.jpg
but is it any good? and what does the 450 do exactly? I haven't seen its weapon...

[Blu_Swade]

On 2006-11-29 20:18, Choja wrote:
440, because she has a unique strategy plan, even with the newer models. "Calculating" <3
It actually depends on what class you have and what you are planning to do with it, either synthing or battle.
Also, please do not hotlink from PSUpedia?


sorry ^_^'''
BTW I find it funny that two people posted while I was writing a response to the first reply, I must type slower than I thought...

[Candor]

420 for looks for me, 450 for soloing ability (has it been fixed?)

[DoubleJG]

440 and 450 are my favorites.

I'd say 440 since that's the least common it seems.

[Choja]

Blu_Swade, I'd hit that. *shotgun'd*

[VelosofLight]

She looks awesome with that shotgun, and has winged boots. Hm. Okay. 440.

I want to know though, has anyone's 410 healed them?

[Pandatron]

On 2006-11-29 20:21, Blu_Swade wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:16, Zorafim wrote:
I myself am torn between 430 for looks or 450 for soloability. I would consider 410, but I hate the look so much it's not even an option.


410's crap, trust me. I personally like the look of 440 I mean, who wouldn't wanna' rock one of these?
*spiffy picture*
but is it any good? and what does the 450 do exactly? I haven't seen its weapon...

It alternates between a rod and a wand. Supposivly it had the ability to use resta which made alot of hunter that didn't wanna rush there PM build one but as a result it didn't have the ability and hunters are stuck with a PM that can only build force related weapons. Though it's unsaid if the 'glitch' is 'fixed'.

Also to the 440s not being common, just search for upperline armor like giga, tero, midi, there's tons of them out there there's a lack of 420 sense it's more of a hybrid model and few people want that.

[Choja]

On 2006-11-29 20:24, Pandatron wrote:
Also to the 440s not being common, just search for upperline armor like giga, tero, midi, there's tons of them out there there's a lack of 420 sense it's more of a hybrid model and few people want that.
Your wish has been granted.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=128510&forum=20&0
*irony!*

[Pandatron]

On 2006-11-29 20:26, Choja wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:24, Pandatron wrote:
Also to the 440s not being common, just search for upperline armor like giga, tero, midi, there's tons of them out there there's a lack of 420 sense it's more of a hybrid model and few people want that.
Your wish has been granted.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=128510&forum=20&0
*irony!*

and for that rebuttle i promote your ikaruga siggy (that is an warning from ikaruga right?).

Its kind of mix people don't want it because it's a hybrid but people do want it because it's not very common not to mention it's weapon is dark property claw very nice for Agata Relics.

[Lastat27]

If you plan to be a Fortefighter, Figunner, Fortegunner, or Protranser then I would probably recommened the 450 to use as a Healbot (once they are fixed). The ability to solo is a very good thing and a 450 will keep you and your NPC healthy.

If you plan to be a Fortecher, Wartecher, or Guntecher then I would chose a 410 or 420. They will signifcantly add to your damage output, and as a "techer" class you will be able to heal and buff them at will.

At the moment the 430 and 440 PM's are weak in terms of damage output. They go good with the "techer classes" but they just don't "put out." People rave about how they can apply status effects, but this really doesn't make up for thier lack of damage / firing speed.

I currently have a PM 440 with a level 70 combat level, and suprise suprise, she still sucks. She fires one shot every 3-6 seconds for 80x4 damage on her shotgun, and 115x2 with her pistols. This may seem like "decent" damage, but she also completely misses mobs when firing sometimes as well.

Untill the PM 440 can become a 443 (Grenade Launcher) or 444 (Laser Cannon) PM then there are much better alternatives at the moment. I hope the slow firing speed of these two advanced weapons will compliment her slow rate of fire in the future.

[MXdude]

420 owns!

Also, its a hybrid but you can make a 90 armor, 10 striking 420 so its not that much of a difference between 100 and 90

[Blu_Swade]

is the main use for the 450 for resta, 'cause if that's all it's good for, I don' want it as I always carry plenty of scapes and I WILL use a regen unit online, even if I have to run around with a safety heart, I needs my regen >_<

[SonicTMP]

pokemon loli-bots. No matter whichi one you get, your still pedo. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Choja]

On 2006-11-29 20:29, Pandatron wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:26, Choja wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:24, Pandatron wrote:
Also to the 440s not being common, just search for upperline armor like giga, tero, midi, there's tons of them out there there's a lack of 420 sense it's more of a hybrid model and few people want that.
Your wish has been granted.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=128510&forum=20&0
*irony!*

and for that rebuttle i promote your ikaruga siggy (that is an warning from ikaruga right?).

Its kind of mix people don't want it because it's a hybrid but people do want it because it's not very common not to mention it's weapon is dark property claw very nice for Agata Relics.

It is, and if you click it, you get sent to a cute flash that indirectly (I really mean it. Et nu guten margen!) expresses how I feel about Sega. In a way. With Touhou included.
I'm making a 25/25/25/25 GH440 with BTLv100 to complement "overall percentages" though it's crap!@^

[AeraLure]

Need more info, such as what character you would pair your PM choice with?

Suppose I'd say 450, assuming you do in fact have a 410 already, and assuming the 450 gets fixed (no it is not fixed yet).

I really like my 420. I also made mine an armor specialist since indeed, you can get its armor to 90. Also, no way is the 410 crap. I love my 410 when my Force goes out-a-soloing. For some reason she seems to range out more than my 420 actually, which in this case I really like. I cant compare the damage between the two since my 420 is level 30 and my 410 level 60, but each have roughly the same combat level and my 410 seems more agressive. 420 is really cool though on looks imho http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif (and certainly also a great fighter).

[Pandatron]

On 2006-11-29 20:35, Choja wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:29, Pandatron wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:26, Choja wrote:

On 2006-11-29 20:24, Pandatron wrote:
Also to the 440s not being common, just search for upperline armor like giga, tero, midi, there's tons of them out there there's a lack of 420 sense it's more of a hybrid model and few people want that.
Your wish has been granted.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=128510&forum=20&0
*irony!*

and for that rebuttle i promote your ikaruga siggy (that is an warning from ikaruga right?).

Its kind of mix people don't want it because it's a hybrid but people do want it because it's not very common not to mention it's weapon is dark property claw very nice for Agata Relics.

It is, and if you click it, you get sent to a cute flash that indirectly (I really mean it. Et nu guten margen!) expresses how I feel about Sega. In a way. With Touhou included.
I'm making a 25/25/25/25 GH440 with BTLv100 to complement "overall percentages" though it's crap!@^

Zomg, that was amazing... I can actually sleep peacefully now after watching that and will probably dedicate a good majority of my day playing Tohou Project Games 5-9 (minus 7.5 because i don't have it for some reason). Thank you for enlightening me.

Back on topic; I didn't realize making a Hybrid of other models would be so easy. But why hybrid just for battle purposes?

*watchs flash again*

[Lastat27]

is the main use for the 450 for resta, 'cause if that's all it's good for, I don' want it as I always carry plenty of scapes and I WILL use a regen unit online, even if I have to run around with a safety heart, I needs my regen >_<

The PM 450 isn't just for healing you. The 450 is also healing herself and your NPC at the same time. If your current job cannot use Resta then you have no easy way to heal your PM / NPC. This is where the 450 comes in.

When your solo party gets seriously injured during B - A rank missions your going to have to let them die, pump out the Star Atomizers, or return to the lobby. With a PM 450 she gives not just you, but the threesome a bit more survival time.

[Blu_Swade]

I probably won't use NPC's as often online due to the fact I can party with other people and the NPC AI is absolute crap, I bring them along for the sole purpose of drawing fire away from me... but perhaps my party members'd appreciate a healing PM... also, I'm considering going ranger or force, although I'll probly end up jumping from class to class like I do offline... I'm so getting that 440 in extra though... that's for sure, but I don' synth armor offline... it all sucks, I need S-rank boards! I can't use my whitill wings without it! or the orpa units!



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[SonicTMP]

pokemon loli-bots. No matter whichi one you get, your still pedo. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[VelosofLight]

On 2006-11-29 21:10, SonicTMP wrote:
pokemon loli-bots. No matter whichi one you get, your still pedo. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



Hey, noone's denying that. I think I speak for everyone when I say that, on a cold lonely night, I wouldn't mind my PM cuddling up to me... and... such. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

That still leaves the question of what PM is right for each of us though.

[Weeaboolits]

I think I want the 440, it's so cool, I love the long coat and top hat, but the shotty puts it over the top!

BTW I got a new screen name, the old one bothered me so much... the mods can delete it if they want, I don't care, I'll never use it again.

[Zorafim]

Hm, using that link you gave, I think I'll go for a 430 with 30 ranged and 70 strike. How useful would she be in battle, though?

[Weeaboolits]

I hate double posting, but I felt the need...
would S=30 R=30 T=10 A=30 be any good for synthing?
I need to be able to synth my ranged and melees, and if armor really does go for top coin online, I want in on that, also a little tech skill so I can make some granarods, or are the stats all too low?

[ljkkjlcm9]

I like the 410, despite what people say. The ones it can become... 411/412/413/414 all have good weapons that I personally love and think would be great

my 410 heals more often now that her battle rank is getting higher, but only when health is yellow, and not always

though really everyone should basically want a 460 series eventually, they seem like they'd be the best

THE JACKEL

[VelosofLight]

Explain these not-yet-existing PMs to me. As thanks, I won't go eat your Rares.

[ljkkjlcm9]

just cause they don't exist yet, doesn't mean you can't prepare for them
go check the psupedia if you want to know what they wield, which is really all I care about, whatever their synth level is, they can make everything eventually

THE JACKEL