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Wash
Dec 3, 2006, 03:23 PM
Alright, I have been wondering this for a while. I would like to make a very powerful, almost pure melee weapon character, but I don't know which race I should go with. I already have a level 10 Human with decent stuff (I am just using my Pallasch), but I rarely use my 1 gun, so is it worth it to transfer to a Beast for the ATP? I like being able to fall back on a handgun/saber combo, but as I said I almost never use the gun. So which is better (other stats wise as well)?

DizzyDi
Dec 3, 2006, 03:27 PM
I'm a beast hunter and I do pretty well with my saber/gun combo.
A misconception people have is that beast miss A LOT. We really don't, and when we do its not even that noticeable.
If you don't mind grinding those 10 levels back I'd switch to beast hunter, just transfer the items you currently have with your Human.

Silver_Wyrm
Dec 3, 2006, 03:29 PM
beast >.>

Maskim
Dec 3, 2006, 03:36 PM
Stick with human. Every hunter and their mother is a beast.

Not that it really matters, both will be completely viable and excel in the game. Beasts will get access to newer weapons a couple levels sooner with higher ATP, human will hit more often, especially come S rank missions.

Really, my favorite part of my character is when I get the 'O.o I didnt no u were hunter. U not a beast.' comments in parties.

AlphaMinotaux
Dec 3, 2006, 03:37 PM
i rerolled my human hunter to beast at lvl 18. :/

MegaBUD
Dec 3, 2006, 03:39 PM
well... go beast if u want an ez life... stick with human if u dont mind... depend what expert class u want.

wartecher.. stay with human...
forthfighter go with beast
and the one with the doublesaber... go with beast

-Shimarisu-
Dec 3, 2006, 03:48 PM
On 2006-12-03 12:39, MegaBUD wrote:
well... go beast if u want an ez life... stick with human if u dont mind... depend what expert class u want.

wartecher.. stay with human...
forthfighter go with beast
and the one with the doublesaber... go with beast



No.

Wartecher... either is fine.
Fortefighter... go with beast.
Fighgunner... either is fine but humans DO get crea weapons. And better ATA for duoble saber. So PROBABLY human is better.

Wash
Dec 3, 2006, 04:11 PM
How bad is the DEF of a Beast, too? I know it is lower than that of a Human, but comparatively how bad (a lot less, only a little, etc.)?

DizzyDi
Dec 3, 2006, 04:17 PM
Uhm...Isn't Beast DEF second only to Cast?

Wash
Dec 3, 2006, 04:20 PM
I could have sworn it was less than Humans. Opps. Getting mixed up now...

Wheatpenny
Dec 3, 2006, 04:23 PM
Play what you wan't who cares about being the best...its all in fun anyway.

Tarathiel
Dec 3, 2006, 04:26 PM
switcyh to beast..thats what i did and you can still use the handgun combo its not like beasts are that horrible at hiting stiuff

HerdsmanOfYrr
Dec 3, 2006, 04:31 PM
Beast if you want heavy hits. Human if you want flexiblity.

Maskim
Dec 3, 2006, 04:32 PM
On 2006-12-03 13:26, Tarathiel wrote:
switcyh to beast..thats what i did and you can still use the handgun combo its not like beasts are that horrible at hiting stiuff



This kind of argument can be used to justify anything. Voila.


On 2006-12-03 13:26, Tarathiel may as well have written:
switcyh to humayn..thats what i did and you can still use all the weapons and kill stiuff its not like huymans are that horrible at doeing damyage





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MegaBUD
Dec 3, 2006, 04:58 PM
but beast got nanoblast.. and its damn fun! my 3rd char will be a beast

Schubalts
Dec 3, 2006, 04:59 PM
Be whichever one you like looking at the most!

Parn
Dec 3, 2006, 05:02 PM
Yep. Casts and beasts may always outdamage me, but they will NEVER look even 1/10th as sexy.

http://synbios.net/images/misc/autograph.jpg

FenixStryk
Dec 3, 2006, 05:04 PM
Let's see.
Beasts: Best as Hunters, OK as Forces, Bad as Rangers.
CASTs: Best as Rangers, OK as Hunters, Bad as Rangers.
Newmans: Best as Forces, OK as Rangers, Bad as Hunters.
Humans: OK as any class.
Take your pick. 10 levels isn't hard to get.

Vortex3113
Dec 3, 2006, 05:17 PM
I learned firsthand that beasts are bad as rangers...but had to do it to be a figunner

DONTOSE
Dec 3, 2006, 05:27 PM
go to beast man thier the best,thier Atp goes up to 1056 when they reach level 100 and they can take over 1000 damage.

RadiantLegend
Dec 3, 2006, 05:31 PM
I dare say my cast ranger is sexier than parn.

Parn
Dec 3, 2006, 05:39 PM
Approximately 100% of those recently polled disagree with you!

RadiantLegend
Dec 3, 2006, 05:48 PM
But that wasnt official. i demand a re-poll

Agne
Dec 3, 2006, 06:02 PM
well i am ignorant to the human side of life so i can only spill the beans on beasts:) first my ata may not be as good but a unit can almost nullify that. at lvl 40 with the accuracy unit i hardly ever miss.. secondly the "beast" mode is awesome if you haven't done it yet, it's kinda like a free ass whippin twice a level. As far as gun/ saber or dagger combo... i don't have any problems using it.. and since i got both the dagger and saber to 2nd combo i use them more than my daggers or my dual sabers

VanHalen
Dec 3, 2006, 06:05 PM
On 2006-12-03 14:02, Parn wrote:
Yep. Casts and beasts may always outdamage me, but they will NEVER look even 1/10th as sexy.

http://synbios.net/images/misc/autograph.jpg



you are correct beast and CAST still dont look as sexy as my newman hunter. humans are the only ones who rival us


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/Envy_06/psu20061112_100337_000.jpg

yeah its a shop pic its the closest zoom I can get on extra mode look for him online hes smart lol



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Merumeru
Dec 3, 2006, 06:58 PM
OMG use a less powerful race because its not poplar! XD but seriously, just use an empty char slot and give beast a try XD

Garnet_Moon
Dec 3, 2006, 08:13 PM
I'm taking Hunter up on my Newman so I can farm as a Fortefighter with Claws and a Figunner with Double Sabers. Do I care that i'm weaker than the other Hunters? LOL What I lack in latent power I make up for in grinds and elemental %'s.

Granted: My current 4x Aldaga Rippas, 1x Halbenata, 1x Soda Caliba, and 1x Twin Ripper don't have over 24% dark on them, but they all have 4/5 grinds on them. Should I go try to synth more with higher %'s? I probably should, but i'm not leaving the Agata Relics zone until my Hunter is 10. It's so boring doing the first two missions to get back. D:<

Maskim
Dec 3, 2006, 08:14 PM
Someday, in the distant future when that S rank sword developed by th COG that has an MST requirement comes out...I'll be ready.

...and holding by breath until then. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

-Shimarisu-
Dec 3, 2006, 08:53 PM
The existence of Argus proves it is possible for beasts to be damn sexy:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/sexy11.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/sexy1.jpg


On 2006-12-03 15:05, VanHalen wrote:

you are correct beast and CAST still dont look as sexy as my newman hunter. humans are the only ones who rival us


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Your newman hunter is like, ewwww.

I found THIS dude at the meet yesterday who >>>>>>>>> your looks. And it ain't his hair either, he's got the face just right (I hate 90% of newman male faces, their lips are all thin. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif )

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/omgahawtnewman2.jpg

The only possible way I'd find Parn any better than 90% of people who are good at finding the right coordinates on the facial proportions/body proportions bar, is if he took his ass to the class select and switched to ranger.



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Mystil
Dec 3, 2006, 09:02 PM
Meh. Nothing wrong with desiring more power and defense. That's why I stopped being a newman hunter. And some certain people seem to think I am jealous of this race when I call it a "bandwagon race". Really... I don't think so. SOME People just play beast for nanoblast, other than it just being the best choice for hunter. Yes it does annoy me a little that they are slowly becoming the dominant race in this game.

I did almost give into the pressure and made a beast character. But I'm not going to settle for something I don't like being. So it was either human or newman, or I just wont play. With this race I can be anything I want without having to deal with crappy stats in the areas that matter most.

VanHalen
Dec 3, 2006, 09:06 PM
On 2006-12-03 17:53, -Shimarisu- wrote:
The existence of Argus proves it is possible for beasts to be damn sexy:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/sexy11.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/sexy1.jpg


On 2006-12-03 15:05, VanHalen wrote:

you are correct beast and CAST still dont look as sexy as my newman hunter. humans are the only ones who rival us


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VanHalen on 2006-12-03 15:16 ]</font>


Your newman hunter is like, ewwww.

I found THIS dude at the meet yesterday who >>>>>>>>> your looks. And it ain't his hair either, he's got the face just right (I hate 90% of newman male faces, their lips are all thin. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif )

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/shirubania/omgahawtnewman2.jpg

The only possible way I'd find Parn any better than 90% of people who are good at finding the right coordinates on the facial proportions/body proportions bar, is if he took his ass to the class select and switched to ranger.



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yeah i hate his thin lips also and im kinda jealous of your beast but in extra mode when clothes cost 55 gajillion meseta its hard to actually want to buy where nobobdy can see them

Maskim
Dec 3, 2006, 10:09 PM
That newman almost has it right, Shim. His ears are too plastered to his head, though. Lodoss elf style ears > straight up ears.

Of course, that might just be me since that's the type I chose. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Shiro_Ryuu
Dec 3, 2006, 10:26 PM
if u have enough space, I would say get both. I have both a human and a beast hunter and I like them both alot, although my human is my primary character and my beast a secondary character.

lordzanon
Dec 3, 2006, 10:26 PM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p197/lzanon/psu20061204_045915_000.jpg


im damn sexy.

btw plz keep in mind beast get a stat bonus for each catagory by being fortefighters and hunters

humans get a same bonus for being hybird classes.

Wash
Dec 4, 2006, 12:36 AM
I made a Beast, and I have to say I am glad I did. So far the ATA difference isn't as bad as I was expecting, and the ATP and DEF are awesome. That isn't to say I'm off Humans, but this Beast is a beast I must say.

Thanks for all of the input by the way.

Ronzeru
Dec 4, 2006, 09:07 AM
On 2006-12-03 19:09, Maskim wrote:
That newman almost has it right, Shim. His ears are too plastered to his head, though. Lodoss elf style ears > straight up ears.

Of course, that might just be me since that's the type I chose. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif



That's right. I have yet to see a single Deedlit spinoff online, or Pirotess.

Tsudori
Dec 4, 2006, 09:49 AM
Got to lvl 17 wit human before discovering i didnt like them as much as on PSO hunter wise so i went to beast as they kick ass (melee wise anyhow). BEASTS RULE!

Maskim
Dec 4, 2006, 01:48 PM
On 2006-12-04 06:07, Ronzeru wrote:

On 2006-12-03 19:09, Maskim wrote:
That newman almost has it right, Shim. His ears are too plastered to his head, though. Lodoss elf style ears > straight up ears.

Of course, that might just be me since that's the type I chose. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif



That's right. I have yet to see a single Deedlit spinoff online, or Pirotess.



Oh, they're there...although I havn't seen one yet that could spell their name right.