What will be the best new weapons on the friday update?

[Marks]

And how much will they cost? For example, from the store?

[Gazette]

Since people are going to argue over what's "best" just go with whatever your favorite weapon is.

As for the price, it goes as follows:

Stars | Price

*1 350
*2 800
*3 2000
*4 8600
*5 18500
*6 35000
*7 90000
*8 165000
*9 250000? ( a guess estimate)




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Gazette on 2006-12-03 21:31 ]</font>

[-Crokar-]

well it looks grim for my future atm

[Zorafim]

If I'm not mistaken, dual claws are the worst weapons coming. It's just because of their photon arts, so hopefully new PAs will be unlocked to make them not bad.

One PA is a 2-2-1 combo, each hitting two enemies. The other one, I think, only targets one enemy and attacks with a 3-2-1 combo? I only got it up to lv3 or something, so I don't know how the full combo works, but the fact that the first part only targets one target is enough to toss it.

If anyone can find any use for or can defend claws, please speak up. I myself love their look and basic combo, and was hoping to use them as a side weapon.

[ViciousXUSMC]

7* will be in the store to buy 8* will be in board form only. Somthing close to 100k for a 8* board.

I belive the pass chance with a 100 PM is only like 53% with 8* stuff.

Its gonna be a big money sink thats for sure.

[Pooru]

On 2006-12-03 21:35, Zorafim wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, dual claws are the worst weapons coming. It's just because of their photon arts, so hopefully new PAs will be unlocked to make them not bad.

One PA is a 2-2-1 combo, each hitting two enemies. The other one, I think, only targets one enemy and attacks with a 3-2-1 combo? I only got it up to lv3 or something, so I don't know how the full combo works, but the fact that the first part only targets one target is enough to toss it.

If anyone can find any use for or can defend claws, please speak up. I myself love their look and basic combo, and was hoping to use them as a side weapon.



despite the also lag that they have when swinging the weapon i'd say their PA's amplify their power x fold as compared to most...so they're not that bad http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif:

[-Crokar-]

l ikeed using dual claws in story. for some reason i like using them. i love the single claw PA too.

[Zorafim]

It's completely outclasses by Dus Roberto (not that that's saying much) and just about outclassed by tornado break (it hits more enemies, and I'd think that swords are about twice as damaging as claws). I think the second twin dagger PA may be better too (three hits instead of two), though I could be wrong. If there's anything that would go for it, its the damage modifier, but I don't pay attention to that so I don't know how it compares to other PAs. Anyone care to help me out on that?

Also, assuming you got your title from FFXI, I believe the title was "Tried and Tested Knight." I was a pld too.

[Nani-chan]

IMO:
Best: Axe
Above Average/Average: Crossbow, Card
Worst: Grenade launcher, Laser Cannon
Not Sure: Everything else


I say this because every fortefighter I've talked to will be getting an Axe.
Guntechers and Fortetechers will probably prefer crossbow or cards with their wands.
The grenade launcher and laser canon are to slow for my tastes.. again this is just my opinion.

The clear winner for best new weapon is probably Axe.

[ViciousXUSMC]

everybody wants the axe for its cool factor and big damage numbers...

but in almost every mmorpg i have ever played the big hitting slow swing weapons are not that good, they just give the perception of being good.


in this case a miss means you missed ALOT, also you will be much less agile wich means taking more hits, thats not a good thing in S rank http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


best wep in pso was mechguns!! (with hit % http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif)

Im not telling anybody how to play, but just like the whole me/quick ordeal usually I find common sense to not be so common in understanding things.

[mechatra]

From my experience on the JP servers I recon that alot of people are gonna be severely dissapointed with Axes. They take alot of patience to use, and although they're REALLY strong, they're also innacurate and slow as hell.

PA's not tooo bad though the second PA released is alittle better for it.

[PaladinRPG]

I definitely will be getting a single claw for the nice PA it has. Axe if I can to see if it's usable enough in intense situations, or more a sub weapon that only can be consistent with something like a zodiaride buff.

[ViciousXUSMC]

exactly my thoughts, being a hard hitting sitting duck is no fun. I imagine that S rank will be similar to Ulitmate was in the PSO days where monsters have really high evade, if thats the case esp beast hunters may really really hate these. As taking 5 seconds for 3 big ZERO's isnt as good as say 6 small 40's. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Oh well somtime next year when I get all my spells I can boost your accuracy for you.

[etlitch]

I'm CHARIGING MY LAZAH

Srsly, it's like a barta/zonde for rangers. Only drawback I can see about it is the high PP consumption for each shot.

Axe is just backstab backstab. I'm more interested at the FiGunners - Almost hunter ATP with dual handguns/mechgun. Hey, I'm not complaining if I'm doing both 120+ dmg * 2 and status effects when shooting dual handguns. We'll see about how usefull the mechgun becomes with that. Mechguns are all about base character ATP, hey - my char has got to have some decent base ATP, right? RIGHT? +100 ATP = +20 dmg in rapid fire RIGHT?

[Ravennittes]

I want my new rods -.-'. Oh, and maybe a card to play around with http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif, and a new bow heh.

[Wheatpenny]

Axe,cause lumberjacks are uber manly!

[Esufer]

On 2006-12-03 21:35, Zorafim wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, dual claws are the worst weapons coming. It's just because of their photon arts, so hopefully new PAs will be unlocked to make them not bad.

One PA is a 2-2-1 combo, each hitting two enemies. The other one, I think, only targets one enemy and attacks with a 3-2-1 combo? I only got it up to lv3 or something, so I don't know how the full combo works, but the fact that the first part only targets one target is enough to toss it.

If anyone can find any use for or can defend claws, please speak up. I myself love their look and basic combo, and was hoping to use them as a side weapon.



Shoot. I was looking forward to using the Dual claws as well, they look cool. Ah well.

[Strider_M]

I'm getting a Laser Cannon/Grenade Launcher... Whatever is cheaper and I can buy a bullet for it... I gotta work up to buy an Axe if I can use it.

[Krltplps]

Gidiga.

Gidiga is the best weapon, followed by cards. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[RadiantLegend]

Axe.

Only a true fighter can wield its power, not some noob trying to see big dmg. XD

[Witchblade56]

Cast HU/Fortefighter using the axe wont be bad at all due to the base acc of the race.

I wont know til i craft some of my own to use on my Beast to see how bad the hit average is. Also consider too that base accuracy will rise with the job level as well.

Is the level cap being raised too? If so theres another source of ata to help get those swings to land. All in all let's not poo poo the axe just yet http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Myself I'm looking forward to taking out my first shiny new double saber out of my PM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Ya I'm one of the many thats going Cast [figunner]. Ive spent alot of time skilling up my saber/dual saber/dagger/dual dagger PA's so that i can focus primarily on double saber PA skill up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Wheatpenny]

Lumberjacks people LUMBERJACKS!! They need to release Flanel shirts and suspenders then add full beards then we can take our AXES and chop down enemies RAWR!!!!!!

[Ronzeru]

I'ma be a sexy human beatin' the hell outta S Rank mobs with my doublesabers ftw.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

I still like the Twin Claws, I wanna use them w/ my Beast, although I doubt he'll be able to make Fortefighter by Friday.

[Aaomi]

One hand daggers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/cake.gif

[ZodiacNKnight]

Double Saber

[MayLee]

MayLee demands Megid and Gresta..and other supporting spells!

[silvanas]

maylee speeks in third person, silvanas aproves of that, silvanas wants advanced photon arts

[Wheatpenny]

AXE GIMMAH MY AXE!!!!

[Dj_SkyEpic]

I love my sexy Gibarta :3

[MayLee]

On 2006-12-04 10:19, silvanas wrote:
maylee speeks in third person, silvanas aproves of that, silvanas wants advanced photon arts

MayLee is happy silvanas aproves.

MayLee also demands more wands! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Genobee]

I think they are all great really, Grande luancher seem s like an excellent support weapon. Not only does it do splash damage, If it doesn't inflict status effect it also has a knock back. I'm probly gonna replace my Dual Sabers with Claws, I like claws little Hadoken thing. And the laser cannon will be awsome, IF you put Ice on it, all of a sudden it becomes the Ice Queen from PSO. And the Axe rocks I'mgonna be getting me one of those.

[-Crokar-]

Crokar thinks your all insane....

[Wheatpenny]

On 2006-12-04 10:31, Genobee wrote:
I think they are all great really, Grande luancher seem s like an excellent support weapon. Not only does it do splash damage, If it doesn't inflict status effect it also has a knock back. I'm probly gonna replace my Dual Sabers with Claws, I like claws little Hadoken thing. And the laser cannon will be awsome, IF you put Ice on it, all of a sudden it becomes the Ice Queen from PSO. And the Axe rocks I'mgonna be getting me one of those.



AXE OMG AXE AXE AHAHH...Wait the lazer cannon pierces multiple enemies? Hmm I might have to reconsider my carrer as a Hunter......

[ljkkjlcm9]

I want Figunner class, but not for Doublesaber, but to upgrade the weapons I already have and love. I'll have a doublesaber yes, but it won't be my main weapon. It'll be there with the other S rank of Figunner, and a Twin Handgun slot.

Palette:
mechgun/saber
twin saber
crossbow/dagger
twin dagger
double saber
twin handgun

I think it'll be a good palette

THE JACKEL



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[Ravennittes]

On 2006-12-04 10:30, MayLee wrote:

On 2006-12-04 10:19, silvanas wrote:
maylee speeks in third person, silvanas aproves of that, silvanas wants advanced photon arts

MayLee is happy silvanas aproves.

MayLee also demands more wands! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Ravennittes condones speaking in the third person, but would like to remind MayLee that rods are better.

[Kismet]

I think the worst new weapon is grenade launchers. They're pretty weak, and only useful for long-range "picking off of enemies" (as I like to call it) and status effect damage.

The best will probably be axes. Whether they do the same amount or more damage than spears, I do not know, but I do know that they're stronger than swords.

Claws and dual claws fall in the middle of everything. It depends on the PAs, brand, star-rating, grinders, and blah-blah-blah... But I DO know that single claws ARE stronger than dual claws.

Double sabers seem to be what a lot of people wanted to use at first, but only fighgunners get them. I'm guessing that double sabers will be somewhere around a spear or sword damage-wise. As for the feel of play, it's kind of like a combination of a spear and twin sabers. (But remember, this is all just my own opinion.)

As for cards, they're probably the same as grenade launchers, except they're kind of like homing missles. I don't know whether they're more powerful than grenade launchers (they most likely aren't, but who knows?), but they sure are more popular than grenade launchers. I at least know that much. So this is the order of what's best and/or more popular as far as new weapons.


{From Best To Worst}

Axe
Double Saber
Claw
Twin Claws
Cards/Grenade Launchers (As for popularity, grenade launchers are last. Nobody really wants those things. XD Except ranger EXTREMISTS, I guess...?)


And that's my two cents. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Itoshi]

Double Saber FTW. They are awesome!!!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Linkwaker64/AsukaDive.jpg

Fwwwssshhh

[-Crokar-]

im going to use about 4 of the new weapons.

[Randomness]

On 2006-12-04 11:26, Ravennittes wrote:

On 2006-12-04 10:30, MayLee wrote:

On 2006-12-04 10:19, silvanas wrote:
maylee speeks in third person, silvanas aproves of that, silvanas wants advanced photon arts

MayLee is happy silvanas aproves.

MayLee also demands more wands! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Ravennittes condones speaking in the third person, but would like to remind MayLee that rods are better.



Randomness has no objections to third person speaking, but wants cards and new clothes most...

[Schubalts]

Schubalts thinks you're all lunatics...

[Marks]

Holy crap I should have specified that by best I meant "best of each type". As in how much will the best twin dagger cost, etc. Because usually all the weapons of the same number of stars cost the same. I just wanted to know what the new highest number of stars on a wep is and how much it will cost me to buy it. Well I did get my question answered and this is a good discussion anyway so I guess all is well.

[Ether]

The best of each type will be the 8* versions
The worst of each type will be the 7* versions

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[SonicTMP]

On 2006-12-05 00:06, Ether wrote:
The best of each type will be the 8* versions
The worst of each type will be the 1* versions

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fixed.

[Nani-chan]

On 2006-12-05 00:08, SonicTMP wrote:

On 2006-12-05 00:06, Ether wrote:
The best of each type will be the 8* versions
The worst of each type will be the 1* versions

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fixed.



New weapons don't come in 1*... so you just made yourself look like a noob.



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[Remedy]

You know the best weapon coming in this update?

Gi-freaking-zonde.

God, I can't wait to go rampaging through Grove of Fanatics leveling that up and slaying tons of robits. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[ViciousXUSMC]

gi-zonde is so boring looking tho gi-foi and gi-diga got it going on lvl 21+ they look big and mean gi-zonde is like this little sprinkle of lightning and it looks exactly the same as lvl 1 and lvl 11 @ lvl 21 just bigger.


I personally look forward to gi-barta on all those lizards in parum relics since they rush you and surround you they make a perfect target to lvl the spell with. It starts off with small range too so will probably lvl all 4 of them with solo reli A runs.

[Genobee]

On 2006-12-04 16:48, Kismet wrote:
I think the worst new weapon is grenade launchers. They're pretty weak, and only useful for long-range "picking off of enemies" (as I like to call it) and status effect damage.


Wha? thats like saying a Knife sucks in a gun fight, because your using it wrong. Of course it's not ment to do damage, thats why it's a RA spell in a tube that has a knock back and has lvl 4 status. it's a "Support Weapon"


God I love how people think if it does minimal damage ZOMG WORST WEAPON EVAR!!!!! I dunno golly maybe if you actualy think past hitting things hard you might understand how some thing works.

[Remedy]

I think Grenades have L3 status, not L4, Genobee.

Could be wrong, though, but I think Rifles and Bows (at 21+, obviously) are the only ones with L4 SEs.

[Genobee]

On 2006-12-05 01:10, Remedy wrote:
I think Grenades have L3 status, not L4, Genobee.

Could be wrong, though, but I think Rifles and Bows (at 21+, obviously) are the only ones with L4 SEs.



I thought every 2 handed ranged weapon had lvl 4 status? I dunno I need to look it up

[Merumeru]

The best new weapon will be my fists when they can hit lv30 as my expert class XD

but im definently picking up an axe and grenade launcher because those are going to be sweet, regardless of damage output http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[ViciousXUSMC]

Rangers are well known to be support role biased in PSU vs the dmg dealers they used to be in PSO for the most part, grenade launcher is a very situational weapon, needs a wide open area and mobs that like to group together easy. Then it can be great. Will take a good player to make it a good weapon tho as its similar to how a force has to play with no aiming on our ra techs.

A force probably could pick up a grenade launcher and use it much better than the average ranger http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Genobee]

On 2006-12-05 01:14, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
Rangers are well known to be support role biased in PSU vs the dmg dealers they used to be in PSO for the most part, grenade launcher is a very situational weapon, needs a wide open area and mobs that like to group together easy. Then it can be great. Will take a good player to make it a good weapon tho as its similar to how a force has to play with no aiming on our ra techs.

A force probably could pick up a grenade launcher and use it much better than the average ranger http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



Well same goes for any weapon, swords suck at one on one, but excell in groups, Dual swords sucks at gruops but excel at one on one.

[Remedy]

On 2006-12-05 01:14, ViciousXUSMC wrote:
A force probably could pick up a grenade launcher and use it much better than the average ranger http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gifWe'll see on Friday.

*has a 29/8 Ranger*

[ViciousXUSMC]

have you seen the video of it yet? you can tell its not a point and shoot weapon like rifles and guns it doesnt even look like it will adjust range if you have a head on enemy like Ra spells do. it will be a rude awaking for alot of rangers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

the lasers are cool and powerfull, but again a force is probably better with one of those too since we are used to zonde/barta. and the PP drain on a laser with a bullet is insane.

[Kismet]

Really, I guess when it comes down to it...

In the end, it's the player that makes the weapon great, really. Sometimes power realies in skill as well and strategy, and not just the best weapons, y'know? =3

If something's weak, you can also just spam giving it a couple of grinders everyday.

[Remedy]

Nah, I'll give it a look on Youtube. I think they'll be fun, though. Shame GTs don't get them (or do they?).

[Kent]

If Twin Claws are as underpowered as in offline modes, especially if they get the shop PA (which isn't even worth using), then they will be absolutely horrible. In offline modes, it takes about an entire PA combo for Twin Claws to do about the same damage as a single Bukuu Rensen-ga from an equal-star Single Claw. And that thing can do another combo hit, which is not only slightly more powerful, but also hits an additional time, at better range.

There's really no upside to using Twin Claws in offline modes, due to how slow the combo starts off (for a two-handed weapon), and how severely weak they are in comparison to the single version (as well as basically any two-handed weapon). You're better off with Twin Daggers, if you want to do, you know, damage.