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JC10001
Dec 6, 2006, 07:40 PM
For those of you who have used both...which did you like better? I'm trying to decide what I should buy to go along with my wands. In a perfect world I could try both and decide for myself but at 90,000 meseta a pop I'd rather just cut straight to the chase.

Can you strafe with both of them?

Cards appear to fire slower than crossbows. How does the damage compare between the two?

Which is more fun to use?

Gazette
Dec 6, 2006, 07:43 PM
Right, Guntecher... lol forgot that one.

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Nani-chan
Dec 6, 2006, 07:44 PM
On 2006-12-06 16:43, Gazette wrote:
No job with a Wand can use xbows...

Wartecher can use A rank cards.
Foretecher can use S rank cards.



guntecher can

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/drakee.gif

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Gazette
Dec 6, 2006, 07:45 PM
WHOOOPS... You totally caught me on that one.
lol, completely forgot, my mistake.
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Then in that case I'd take crossbow over cards considering Guntecher has an S rank in them.

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JC10001
Dec 6, 2006, 07:55 PM
Darn, I thought Fortechers could use both. I just checked PSUpedia. The only classes that can use crossbows are figunner, guntecher, and fortegunner. How the heck is Maya Shidow using a crossbow then? She's cheating. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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Gazette
Dec 6, 2006, 08:00 PM
No, that's why I was quick to assume you were either War or Forte-techer.

I wouldn't picture too many Guntechers relying on a wand with lvl 10 techs...
In any case, it's up to you, but the recommended weapon will usually just be the one with the highest rank since it's just a sidearm.



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Nani-chan
Dec 6, 2006, 08:09 PM
On 2006-12-06 16:55, JC10001 wrote:
I just checked PSUpedia. The only classes that can use crossbows are figunner, guntecher, and fortefighter fortegunner. How the heck is Maya Shidow using a crossbow then? She's cheating. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


She may be a guntecher, however npcs aren't limited to the class system. Lou and Leo are figunner/hunter but will pull out a resta staff when they get low on hp.

VelosofLight
Dec 6, 2006, 09:01 PM
On 2006-12-06 17:09, Nani-chan wrote:

On 2006-12-06 16:55, JC10001 wrote:
I just checked PSUpedia. The only classes that can use crossbows are figunner, guntecher, and fortefighter fortegunner. How the heck is Maya Shidow using a crossbow then? She's cheating. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


She may be a guntecher, however npcs aren't limited to the class system. Lou and Leo are figunner/hunter but will pull out a resta staff when they get low on hp.




Yeah, and I was pretty damn surprised when my 410 did it. I had no idea she had that ability.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Flane/C.jpg

Dj_SkyEpic
Dec 6, 2006, 09:06 PM
As stated before in these threads, NPCs and PMs are not restricted to the type of weapons they use.

VelosofLight
Dec 6, 2006, 09:10 PM
On 2006-12-06 18:06, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
As stated before in these threads, NPCs and PMs are not restricted to the type of weapons they use.



Except that the weapons are preset. The weapons aren't restricted by type, but each NPC/PM only has certain ones.

Shiro_Ryuu
Dec 6, 2006, 10:12 PM
Maya can do whatever the she wants, thats why she can use a crossbow.

FenixStryk
Dec 6, 2006, 10:46 PM
All I know is that Lou has a Rifle, Twin Sabres, a Double Saber, and a Staff. And she's hawt.
Lou and Claire (my GH430) might as well be my wife and daughter xD

Anyway, back on topic... go with corssbows. It starts off as an ammo-conserving handgun that shoots slower but ends up as a mini-shotgun that's more accurate. It's really quite a deal.

VelosofLight
Dec 6, 2006, 10:49 PM
On 2006-12-06 19:46, FenixStryk wrote:
All I know is that Lou has a Rifle, Twin Sabres, a Double Saber, and a Staff. And she's hawt.
Lou and Claire (my GH430) might as well be my wife and daughter xD



Lou and my 410 (C.D.) are both mah biatches.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Flane/TheEnderSquadII.jpg

Look at me pimpin' wit mah weaponz.

JC10001
Dec 7, 2006, 09:13 PM
So...back to the topic at hand...can you move and shoot at the same time with cards? Crossbows?

Banert
Dec 7, 2006, 09:19 PM
You can move with both. No clue about damage (I'd guess crossbow is stronger), but cards home with their bullets, in case you didn't know.

Itsuki
Dec 7, 2006, 10:19 PM
Both are roughly the same in damage. Roughly the same ATP, both shoot 3 bullets. I think crossbow may fire slightly faster, but cards have higher elemental % and higher ATA & ability to hit things.

TheStoicOne
Dec 8, 2006, 12:40 AM
I think when I get 1 million meseta, Ill switch from GT to Fortetech, and see how it is

KiteWolfwood
Dec 8, 2006, 01:22 AM
Cards have the highest elemental attribute on a ranged weapon I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. Personally I would go with cards for damage and xbow for tagging. Cards are basically a pointblank xbow without having to be pointblank.

PaladinRPG
Dec 8, 2006, 04:55 AM
Cards are highest elemental? They beat even a bow's 19% mod?

Itsuki
Dec 8, 2006, 05:28 AM
Longbow has 30%, Card has 25%, twins have 24%, Rifle has 23%, Handgun is 19%, Gernade is 18%, everything else is 15 or less.

Marik
Dec 8, 2006, 05:31 AM
Cards for me since im gonna be Fortetecher.

Zarbolord
Dec 8, 2006, 06:02 AM
BOth since I'm gonna be Guntecher http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif It makes more style to hazve different types. also their different attack combos and effects can be usefull at different times.

Nani-chan
Dec 11, 2006, 06:03 AM
Difficult to decide

GosamerWings
Dec 20, 2006, 08:35 AM
-grins- catch my guntecher in game some time you'll see http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Kula
Dec 20, 2006, 12:15 PM
My opinion both are good depending on the situation , crossbow seens to be more dmging and will fire 3 bullets when reached to 21, also has alot of PP but lacks first person view mode and bad SE. Cards have good elemental % and SE but lacks power and im not sure can u first person view with it. Both are strafable. I wish i can get 21 bullets for figunner ;_;

mananas
Dec 20, 2006, 12:30 PM
-farts- come see my newman in action to witness what not to do.

Kent
Dec 20, 2006, 12:58 PM
On 2006-12-08 02:28, Itsuki-chan wrote:
Longbow has 30%, Card has 25%, twins have 24%, Rifle has 23%, Handgun is 19%, Gernade is 18%, everything else is 15 or less.



For us Wartechers, Longbows are at 19%, and Handguns at a measly 5%. What elemental percentage do Cards start at?