Hidden effects on armor/weapons.....

[Itchee]

Ive heard talk of certain combinations of items granting hidden effects when equipped together.....any truth in this? If so...would anyone know of a current list? psupedia perhaps??
Any info would be greatly appreciated....

Thx! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Golto]

Hmm ger neda and rabol neida armor? I think there might be a single dagger + armor combo now too.

[_Deliverance_]

Tanaii?

[Itchee]

On 2006-12-11 09:36, _Deliverance_ wrote:
Tanaii?


Are you asking me if I was once affiliated with Tanaii(FFXI-Hades)?

[ZodiacNKnight]

Phantomline + Phantom Rifle = ?????

I know if you pair those together something will happen. Either a special effect, stat boost, or both.
Be pretty awesome if your character cloaks or something. Special Ops/Ghost Ranger. >:)


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[Itchee]

I noticed certain items have descriptions that at least allude to hidden effects. For example...the Midiline armor says something about being developed for rangers. Would they get some sort of boost using it?

[SabZero]

I thought that just meant that different stats get bonuses (evp for rnagers, dfp for hunters or something)...

[Umberger]

There's an armor in Neudaiz that boosts the stats of one of the Card weapons...and the Card in turn boosts the armor. So maybe some weapons/armor sets work together and stuff.

I wish they'd make a card weapon out of Rappy feathers (and make it work better with the Rappy Suit) like the one from PSO. =(

[Gazette]

The Twin Harisan fans seem to stun at a low rate.
Or so I've observed from others.

[Stixx]

On 2006-12-11 10:31, Gazette wrote:
The Twin Harisan fans seem to stun at a low rate.
Or so I've observed from others.



I can second this as I've done it myself. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Itchee]

Thx for tha replys, guys....

Know of any others? Keep em coming......

[AlMcFly]

On 2006-12-11 10:28, Umberger wrote:
There's an armor in Neudaiz that boosts the stats of one of the Card weapons...and the Card in turn boosts the armor. So maybe some weapons/armor sets work together and stuff.

I wish they'd make a card weapon out of Rappy feathers (and make it work better with the Rappy Suit) like the one from PSO. =(



It's Ageha-Senba. Boosts that Ageha card.

[Diablohead]

I never realised pairing items could give hidden effects, nice.

[Ultra]

I'm also using Ageha-Senba armor on my lvl23 toon with Melee weapons and cast Silence on all mobs in LL. I never could figure out how this was happening.

[Stixx]

On 2006-12-11 11:02, Ultra wrote:
I'm also using Ageha-Senba armor on my lvl23 toon with Melee weapons and cast Silence on all mobs in LL. I never could figure out how this was happening.



If only it caused shock...=/

[Akaimizu]

I know something special happens whenever you Pair Twin guns on a Tynselle. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Laranas]

From what I've read on JP boards, matching a weapon with the armor of similar name gives all the stats a 25% boost.

[Shazbot]

According to PSU-Wiki:

Rabol Damud (1*) + Shigga Damud (1* Shotgun)
Brandline (2*) + Brand (2* Saber)
Busterline (3*) + Twin Buster (3* Twin Saber)
Reiha-senba (4*) + Reyharod (3* Rod)
Zeetline (4*) + Jitseen (7* Saber)
Ageha-senba (4*) + Ageha-kikami (8* Card)
Assino-senba (5*) + Assino zashi(5* Twin Dagger)
Rabol Patte (5*) + Mukpat (3* Spear)
Phantomline (7*) + Phantom (9* Rifle)
Nafli-senba (7*) + Nafli-zashi (2* Dagger)
Rabol Neida (7*) + Gur Neda (7* Grenade Launcher)
Gigushline (8*) + Gigush (2* Sword) ...Probably
Rikal-senba (8*) + Rikauteri (11* Bow)
Rabol Rad (8*) + Mukarad (6* Spear)
Rabol Gant (8*) + Gudda Gant (9* Knuckles)
Crimsonline (9*) + Crimson (10* Saber)
Yamata-senba (9*) + Yamata Misaki (?* ?Twin? Claw) ...Probably
Rabol Asted (9*) + Gur Asted (*? Grenade Launcher)...Probably

Spelling might be off on the last 5 or so since they're not yet listed on PSOW. Thanks for the corrections peeps!


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[fay]

iv heard this is the same for techniques, yea.

2 of the same element spells on the 1 weapon boosts strength of the spell or somethin

[Itchee]

Good lookin out, Shazbot!

[Laranas]

On 2006-12-12 05:32, fay wrote:
iv heard this is the same for techniques, yea.

2 of the same element spells on the 1 weapon boosts strength of the spell or somethin

The same goes for TP Weapons + Armor, where it boosts the stats by a certain % (I still think it's 25%), but you're talking about PAs.

If you stack 2 of the same element PA on a Wand-type, you can get +4% dmg on those techs. The same formula makes it possible to get +12% on a Rod-type, but you need to have ONLY that element on the Rod.

Currently there's only 3 of 1 type, so to get the +8% bonus you need to have the three techs on a rod and leave the last spot empty.

[Umberger]

On 2006-12-12 05:27, Shazbot wrote:
According to PSU-Wiki:
Me-senba (4*) + Mayrod (8* Rod)


How much of a stat boost does the armor and/or weapon get from that?

[Diablohead]

So every second spell of the same element on a wand or staff gives it a 4% boost, thats pretty cool.

Maybe having two fire and two lightning on a staff, thats 4% boost to each type.

[Remedy]

On 2006-12-12 10:36, Diablohead wrote:
Maybe having two fire and two lightning on a staff, thats 4% boost to each type.Incorrect. Mixing elements removes the bonus altogether.

[Mewn]

On 2006-12-12 08:34, Umberger wrote:

On 2006-12-12 05:27, Shazbot wrote:
According to PSU-Wiki:
Me-senba (4*) + Mayrod (8* Rod)


How much of a stat boost does the armor and/or weapon get from that?


Nothing, because PSU-Wiki actually says for Me-senba: 'There is no set effect with Mayrod'.

Probably because with the similar names (in JP, Meisenba and Meirodou) people would assume they make a set when they do not.

As far as I can tell, all set bonuses increase ATP, ATA and DFP by 25% (for melee weapons and guns) or TP, DFP and MST by 25% (for casting weapons). I don't know if these affect total stats or just the stats of the weapon and armour though. Might need some testing, hah.

There's also some other set bonuses detailed on PSU-Wiki's Armors page (http://suimasen.sakura.ne.jp/aaaphp/index.php?DB%2F%C1%F5%C8%F7%2F%CB%C9%B6%F1), for individual sets.

[Itsuki]

On 2006-12-11 10:14, Itchee wrote:
I noticed certain items have descriptions that at least allude to hidden effects. For example...the Midiline armor says something about being developed for rangers. Would they get some sort of boost using it?



There are sets, no question about that. Using a brandline + brand early on can make you suck a lot less for example. But Midiline isn't one of them.

Midiline is actually a ranger only armor that gives +15 ATA. Theres also a 9 star ranger only armor called Gunner line (gannaraino) that gives +24 ATA. AND theres even a 3 star variant, although its not ranger only, bustersline supposedly gives +4 ATP and +3ATA (practically negligable).

[Itchee]

On 2006-12-12 11:43, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2006-12-11 10:14, Itchee wrote:
I noticed certain items have descriptions that at least allude to hidden effects. For example...the Midiline armor says something about being developed for rangers. Would they get some sort of boost using it?



There are sets, no question about that. Using a brandline + brand early on can make you suck a lot less for example. But Midiline isn't one of them.

Midiline is actually a ranger only armor that gives +15 ATA. Theres also a 9 star ranger only armor called Gunner line (gannaraino) that gives +24 ATA. AND theres even a 3 star variant, although its not ranger only, bustersline supposedly gives +4 ATP and +3ATA (practically negligable).



Is that +15 ATA on the Midiline applied after the fact? Or is that reflected in the basic stats of the armor? (ie. DFP, EVP, MST, END)

[Ryoki]

I pointed out the Ageha thing before the update. No one would believe me, they just thought it said "works well with throwing blades (Cards are blades? wtf?)" and thought it ment nothing. Which wouldn't be a bad assumption, seeing how in PSO, every rare or yellow weapon was called "This legendary (Weapon Type)..." Everything in PSO was legendary, for christ's sake.In PSU, even good weapons are "mass produced" or "for intermediate users..."

BTW: Midiline makes me want to listen to music from vgmusic.com...



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[Shadow_Wing]

I really doubt the info Itsuki-chan provides is false, probably one of the few people I truly respect in knowing what they're talking about, but it seems if true the ata isn't actually added on till after the fact.

I just went on to see if there's any obvious difference in ata+, but I saw no increase

[etlitch]

Equipping melee or ranged weapons with their respective armour grants a bonus of +25% ATP and ATA of the equipped weapon and +25% DFP of the equipped armour.

Equipping TECH weapons grants a bonus of +25% TP of the equipped weapon and +25% DFP +25% MST of the equipped armour.

These are confirmed to work since equipping my +10 reyharod with a set gives more TP than a +10 Hajirod.
The bonuses are hidden, so you won't be able to see them in character stats/menue but should be quite noticeable if you try to attack something with and without the armour that grants the set (well the TP and ATP part at least) There's no known ATP/EVP hit rate formula yet so the ATA part is abit harder to notice.

[VelosofLight]

On 2006-12-11 11:05, Stixx wrote:

On 2006-12-11 11:02, Ultra wrote:
I'm also using Ageha-Senba armor on my lvl23 toon with Melee weapons and cast Silence on all mobs in LL. I never could figure out how this was happening.



If only it caused shock...=/



I think Spears cause silence or something. My Lacanata keeps doing it.

[Ravennittes]

Neudiaz weapons have a slight chance of inflicting status effects.

[etlitch]

On 2006-12-12 14:14, Ravennittes wrote:
some weapons have a slight chance of inflicting status effects.fixed.

[Itsuki]

On 2006-12-12 12:25, Shadow_Wing wrote:
I really doubt the info Itsuki-chan provides is false, probably one of the few people I truly respect in knowing what they're talking about, but it seems if true the ata isn't actually added on till after the fact.

I just went on to see if there's any obvious difference in ata+, but I saw no increase



I'm not sure what you mean by after the fact. But my understanding is that this number was found out through some simple hacking of sorts. I guess it can't quite be considered hacking, since you're not really changing anything. The basic idea is to do a scan and figure out where your ATA is in memory, then equip the armor and see if it changes. Now, even with that said, the calculations on ATA are a bit weird. My understanding is also that units and bonuses are applied after PA percents. Like, lets say you have some bullet that gives 150% atp. And you're wearing a mega/power that gives +50atp. My understanding is that the +50 isn't effected by the 150% of the bullet. All that stuff is calculated in, then you get +50 atp. But that makes ATA bonuses kind of silly. Because ATA percents are generally quite bad.

Then again, this information may also be in the perfect bible. I would like to see what the perfect bible says, but nobody has scanned the armor pages.

[Choja]

On 2006-12-12 08:34, Umberger wrote:

On 2006-12-12 05:27, Shazbot wrote:
According to PSU-Wiki:
Me-senba (4*) + Mayrod (8* Rod)


How much of a stat boost does the armor and/or weapon get from that?

Refer to:
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=127800&forum=20
to find your answer.

[DaveOnrefni]

I do recall my Yohmei 3* Dagger inflicting Sleep/stun. Was pretty helpful =D

[adycarter]

Jogiri randomly inflicts poison

[Skuda]

On 2006-12-12 05:27, Shazbot wrote:

Assino-senba (5*) + Assino zashi(5* Twin Dagger)

[Pooru]

hmm nothing for Hanzo combo huh D: *pets his katana like photon sword* itsok my precious they dont understand your power

[Pik]

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but I have a Rank C Spear (I forget the name of it. Starts with an L.) that seems to silence enamies fairly often.

[FenixStryk]

On 2006-12-12 05:27, Shazbot wrote:
According to PSU-Wiki:
Zeetline (4*) + Jitseen (7* Saber)
*is completely flabbergasted* How much is the boost? I might "downgrade" from Megaline to Zeetline if it's worth it.

[Remedy]

25% of the weapon's ATP and ATA, and 25% of the armor's DFP.

Given the Jitseen has 228 ATA and 487 ATP and Zeetline has 56 DFP, you'll get a total of 57 ATA, 122 ATP, and 14 DFP bonus.

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[Divanti]

You know, I swear I've seen my Mukalbe (4* Tenora spear) with ice on it actually freeze enemies. The forces in my party were throwing Diga around and we had no rangers so...