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Kuya
Dec 15, 2006, 08:00 AM
http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=Rare_Monsters

Block 2 is always the same right? Sucks because the first spawn for me is always Vanda x 3 and 2*2...Problem is I don't know where the Jaos spawn or what I'm doing to not get them :T Any ideas?

Ras
Dec 15, 2006, 08:04 AM
I had the same problem with the B-X pattern, no Jao at all. The Japanese wiki says that they will spawn at the very end in place of some Vanda, but I didn't see any despite getting the correct spawns.

AnamanaAU
Dec 15, 2006, 08:13 AM
Keep trying. I had the same problem with trying to get rappies to spawn in Linear Line. The T junction's right almost always has a group of Delsabans and rarely has a group of Pannon.

Kuya
Dec 15, 2006, 08:31 AM
I think maybe I'm having issues actually counting/seeing the 3 and 2*2 spawn. The spawn after the first 3 is dependant on the kills but then they just seem to spawn one at a time? I just wish I could kill the vandas quicker on S rank - 7400 hp at 80 per ice rifle hit is long, slow, and expensive :T

AnamanaAU
Dec 15, 2006, 08:36 AM
Whats your character's current luck? I'm pretty sure luck has to do with what set of enemies will spawn, you know, so you meet the requirements to see Rare mobs.

DarkSeph
Dec 15, 2006, 04:51 PM
Not sure if you are still trying for this Kuya but here is the secret ok http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Go with the C route....as in C difficulty.....then find the map with a door to your left....left! Go through it, it zig zags a little, then you get those 3 Jamalogous blah blah, their are 3 of them, they look like huge huntch back Meat Sacks! Well if you get those kill them and finish off the block...if you don't then Abandon and keep trying till you do! Ok, so you finish that block, then on block 2 if you don't get those 3 Vanda with Shields and Swords (the red and blue) then your screwed...sorry! You can kill them if you want and finish the whole thing or you can restart the whole process...if you DO get 3 of them with Shield and Sword then Congrats http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Your gonna get Jao! After you kill them and another couple you will get your Jao instead of those Bird thingies....if you don't do what I said you'll get a buttload of those Fat Birdies and be very very dissappointed.... It only took me around 1 hour to get my Jao....now I'm trying my luck out on Relics http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Kuya
Dec 15, 2006, 06:00 PM
lol - Thanks but there's a reason I'm running it on S DarkSeph. There's a slot unit that I need called Giga/Bullet PP Save (or something). PP reduction on guns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that if you have the NW Exit and you find 3 Jishagara then go to block two and fight 3 Sword/Shield Vandas Plus two more waves of two apiece then you'll find the Jao spawn. My question is WHERE in block two do they spawn at, towards the end near the vanda leader? On top of that, can someone clarify the vanda spawn in block two? Usually, in the 3 vanda spawn when I kill the left or the middle one - it'll spawn the next set...does that mean it's the incorrect one even though there's two that spawn?

hydrallus
Dec 15, 2006, 06:57 PM
Its not that hard. The start of the block you can recharge pp there and only after you kill the very first 3 vanda you should then see 2 spawn. If not abandon.

Its super easy.

DarkSeph
Dec 15, 2006, 08:48 PM
As far as I know it's not catalog'd yet for S, sorry, can't answer your question. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

AnamanaAU
Dec 15, 2006, 08:51 PM
They're all the same, no matter what difficulty, you'll always get the same map & spawn sets.

DarkSeph
Dec 15, 2006, 08:51 PM
It must always be easiest the first try http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I just did 2 hours on C difficulty Vally of Carnage and must have found the right 1st block 7 times and not once got it right the second block..so, no Jao obviously....but it only took 4 times the first time......oh well....at least I have seen them once now, might just move on to relics for good http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Kuya
Dec 15, 2006, 09:51 PM
Hydrallus - so nothing should spawn after killing one or two vandas but until AFTER all three are killed? That'll make more sense when I Jao hunt for that unit tomorrow http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Btw - where do the Jao spawn? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

hydrallus
Dec 16, 2006, 02:49 AM
To be fair I only read the faq over and over and tried it and only cancelled when I knew I had failed.

I had saw Jao "twice", both on the other Moatab mission's counterpart with the demon boss at the end. They all spawned in the 3rd block right when you enter the block and go straight (not the often missed enemies on the right). These also spawned a second wave the same rounds in the nearby "pen" that you get a key for before fighting the demon.

The first wave always gave Meo Mustache and decent gold. 2nd wave gave me one Jao piece.

Everone knows the area I speak of because its necessary to backtrack to it everytime for the S rank.

hydrallus
Dec 16, 2006, 02:54 AM
What i meant was boss Dimmagolus in Dessert Terror. you know what I mean.

Ilmoran
Dec 18, 2006, 09:35 PM
There has been a lot of discussion/debate about this over at psupedia. Apparently, the difference between a 3-2-2 spawn and a 3-3-1 spawn will ONLY be noticeable if you kill all three of the first ones at the same time. If you do that, and only 2 more spawn, you have the right set. Otherwise, the other waves will spawn piecemeal, and you have to finish the block to find out if you get Jaos (personally I always finish the block because its not really that long).

ShadowDragon28
Dec 18, 2006, 09:48 PM
Sunday and today I've been trying to get the Linear Line map "A-X" "B-X" and "C-X" to appear, for like 3 - 4 hours straight and i've got *no* Rappy Noel spawn maps.

Monday the 18th my male, Human, Hunter's luck is zero, and i still can't find the right maps. What's funny is I have gotten like 8 or more Kubara Woods though from the search.lol

I just need two more xmas trees from some darn Rappy Noel's..so i can sale them for 10,000 meseta total....

Maybe if i even get a luck of 2 or 3 again this week things will change? *sigh*

DarkSeph
Dec 18, 2006, 09:49 PM
....I don't know what I did exactly to get the Jao the first time...I thought I followed the guide from psupedia but I must have done something wrong that ended up in doing something right to see them.......well whatever the case I don't know for sure what is right for Valley of Carnage but I know for a fact that C-X method for Unsafe Passage works! I even posted a topic with pictures to prove it. Just takes patience obviously. So until it's fixed with the version for Valley of Carnage I'm just gonna play as normal...already seen both rares anyway.

So let me get this straight though Ilmoran....you mean that if I try say...Valley of Carnage C-X method...on the second block I should see 3 followed by 2 and then I should see the Jao? Cuz I keep getting 3, then 2, then 2....then NO Jao! So I finish too since it's short and only see those bird things....no Jao....so, kinda discouraging....at least with Unsafe Passage what you see is what you get and what you get is Rappy Noel......thanx for any help

Vuman
Jan 3, 2007, 12:50 AM
I also have a question about what is written about the Second Block first spawn for Moatoob. After the green highlighted set spawns int he second block, are any monsters supposed to spawn afterwards? I've gotten the Vandas with the shield but sometimes I get 1 Kog Nod followed by 1 Kog Nod spawn after the Vandas.

And again where are the Jao's supposed to spawn in Valley of Sorrows?

Pinecone
Jan 3, 2007, 01:50 AM
they spawn at the last area in block 2 of VoC. I found some today, they replace a spawn of monsters at the last spawn session of block 2 VoC.

Rashiid
Jan 3, 2007, 07:59 AM
i heard you had to kill them before they left.....is that tru?

Golto
Jan 3, 2007, 12:37 PM
Pinecone: Do you remember which pattern you saw them in and what was after the 3-2-2 vandas?

Wheatpenny
Jan 3, 2007, 12:47 PM
I have Ran Valley C over and over and over just for mission points and never seen Jaos. Must be my Bad/ Luck - I have equiped

foreverb1ue
Feb 13, 2007, 10:09 PM
this might sound stupid but i was wondering if the sheild/sword vandas are just vandas with attack up and defense up (buffed up) i have never seen a monster with a sword.

Aaron777
Feb 13, 2007, 10:12 PM
I have a Jao Delma if anyone wants to make an offer on it....(Go to the trading section) Im'm on PC

Magician
Feb 14, 2007, 07:10 AM
I've always popped for the A-X pattern.

PSUpedia's info on the A-X is incorrect.

Both patterns A-1 and A-X start as Vanda x3, Jishagarax1+1.

You kill one Vanda and it's replaced with one Jishagara.

The only sign I've noticed when it comes to gaining Jaos or not is after the gate in block 2, down the hill. If you get Vandax4+1 after the Kog Naddx2 mob, no Jaos. If you get Vandax5+? (? = uncounted # of Vandas instead of Lapucha) after the Kog Naddx2, Jaos you shall have.



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