So what makes Cast the best Figunner?

[North]

Plannin on making one a Figunner, would female cast be good?

[Nestahima]

Last time I asked about a Class/Race combination it began a 7-page flame war.

/inb4flames


http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=130265&forum=20&103

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[Zorafim]

I didn't know they made the best figunners, but with their high attack, defense, and accuracy, it's not surprising.
Do casts get a boost in figunner, by the way?

[North]

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=128425&forum=20&151

on that link, the player now thats a cast right? she looks badass those "parts" in US version?

[Ronzeru]

Dunno, but i'd hit it. I'd prolly have to use W2-40, but i'd hit it.

[Zorafim]

Yes, that's a caseal. Those parts aren't even out in japan yet, but I am really looking forward to those parts. They're the sole reason I rolled caseal.

[Delinguaniss]

On 2006-12-18 14:41, North wrote:
Plannin on making one a Figunner, would female cast be good?



Here's Delinguaniss...

It really isn't about what we think. Parsay, it's about how good you make her into one. See, I have a Cast Guntecher, no way his Resta is remotely delicious. But hey, when a block is cleared, it comes in for some huge rescueing. Anyway, when I solo with him, that Resta comes in good and handy. And I seem to make some people's day with him as well...

[PJ]

Second best ATP, highest ATA

You tell me

[ProfessorZ]

ATA. Thats the only thing they have

[North]

any idea when they will be coming out? im guessing.no time soon....

[Zorafim]

Really, I can't think of any race that would make a bad figunner. Beasts have the hulk smash, casts have the offense and defense, newmen make use of the class's high accuracy and evasion, and humans are all of the above and none at all. I would guess that beast and cast are equally good, though neither can really make use of the class's high evasion.

[Delinguaniss]

Dude, CASTS have SUVs, get it, regardless of whatev thing you put on them, they are champions. Versus Beasts, that can't heal themselves during a transformation, and some ppl blatantly don't know how to be beasts, despite their huge disadvantage. Anyway, ATA & ATP are great together...

[Zorafim]

Not to mention their lack of evasion makes them better at PAs.
But don't choose a race because somebody else tells you to, choose your own.

[Bleemo]

Personally, I think Beasts make the best Fighgunners.

Fighgunner weapon selection has high Accuracy, and generally Beasts don't have any issues with Accuracy even using a Double Saber. Especially as a Fighgunner, which at class level 10 will null any Accuracy issues Beasts have.

Pretty much Beasts can abuse the multi-hit weapons with their very high ATP.

[North]

Damn bleemo now i dont know which to pick heh

[Randomness]

Cast and Beast are equally good for it, pick whichever one appeals to you aethetically, or who has your prefered special.

[Ronzeru]

Be a human. Their the badass Fighgunners.

[Ryoki]

True. But it depends on this...
I am a beast figunner (never going to spell it figh.) and I use twin daggers the most, which:
1. Their semi-low attack is made up for by my high base atp.
2. the fact that they have great ata makes up for the fact that my base ata isn't too good.

If you want to stick with the guns and actually be able to hit with ranged weapons on S rank missions, go cast Figunner. If you want to focus on their melee aspect more, go beast. In reality, it just depends on whether to be a robot or a genetic mutation http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[SonicTMP]

in the end there won't be that much differance between the races stat wise. Choice of equipment will pretty much give a slight edge between atp/ata/def/evd but not enough to make a real differance. Pick your favorite race and go for it, you really won't be gimp unless you let yourself be.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

I personally believe that anything other than Newman would make good Fighgunners. Humans, well, ya, nuff said, they're good at anything although there will always be one or two races that eclipse them at another job, and no different here. CASTs excel at one aspect, the gunner part while being slightly better than Humans in the Figh part. Its also a good alternative to Beasts who prefer the fast weapons over the big slow weapons. A newman is wasting its talent, they have good enough accuracy for the gunner part(I'm sure they were meant to be good with ranged weapons since Forces get longbows and fans) but its a waste of the newman's true potentials.

[RussInDaHill]

Casts rock

[North]

back on those "parts" theres no release date on that right?

[daddyX]

i dont think they will be out for awhile. i want to see some cooler male parts. i dont like whats on psupedia right now.

[North]

Damn, well beast it is!

[VanHalen]

On 2006-12-18 19:39, Shiroryuu wrote:
I personally believe that anything other than Newman would make good Fighgunners. Humans, well, ya, nuff said, they're good at anything although there will always be one or two races that eclipse them at another job, and no different here. CASTs excel at one aspect, the gunner part while being slightly better than Humans in the Figh part. Its also a good alternative to Beasts who prefer the fast weapons over the big slow weapons. A newman is wasting its talent, they have good enough accuracy for the gunner part(I'm sure they were meant to be good with ranged weapons since Forces get longbows and fans) but its a waste of the newman's true potentials.



ouch dude your hurt my newman's ego of being a fortefighter lol

[SolomonGrundy]

Can we see someone post level 60/10 - figunner stats for a human and a cast please?

I think the ATP would be almsot the same, I am just wondering how far off the other stats are.

My thinking is that Casts can actaully take advantage of the bullet Photon Arts, while Beasts and maybe Humans would really struggle with that aspect.

Beasts HP/DFP/ATP still make them the #2 choice though

Cast>Beast>Human

IMO, of course

[Jasam]

I saw the stats here somewhere, but CAST beats Human in HP/ATP/ATA/DFP as a Figunner....By i sugnificant margin as well.

[JAR]

Being a cast fighgunner myself I find the 1h weapon with 1h pistol combo is quite effective, a fast one handed weapon works well. I've even been using my hanzo a lot lately and as long as I keep moving to avoid attacks I come out on top!

[Aaomi]

metallic skirts http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Kula]

Well you do realize Human gains a lil bonus for figunner, and apparently they the only race that gets bonus for being figunners =0 , kinda makes me believe figunners are meant for human lol. They do decent dmg with melee or range weapons and can use some nifty creas too add along.

[Bleemo]

On 2006-12-19 19:24, Kula wrote:
Well you do realize Human gains a lil bonus for figunner, and apparently they the only race that gets bonus for being figunners =0 , kinda makes me believe figunners are meant for human lol. They do decent dmg with melee or range weapons and can use some nifty creas too add along.
+3% ATP.

Hardly much of a bonus, lol.

[Kula]

Bonus is bonus lol, plus no other class got bonus for it , feeling special eh?

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2006-12-19 14:16, VanHalen wrote:

On 2006-12-18 19:39, Shiroryuu wrote:
I personally believe that anything other than Newman would make good Fighgunners. Humans, well, ya, nuff said, they're good at anything although there will always be one or two races that eclipse them at another job, and no different here. CASTs excel at one aspect, the gunner part while being slightly better than Humans in the Figh part. Its also a good alternative to Beasts who prefer the fast weapons over the big slow weapons. A newman is wasting its talent, they have good enough accuracy for the gunner part(I'm sure they were meant to be good with ranged weapons since Forces get longbows and fans) but its a waste of the newman's true potentials.



ouch dude your hurt my newman's ego of being a fortefighter lol



well, if ur going that route, I have nothing against you, you definately have plenty of guts.

[omegapirate2k]

On 2006-12-19 14:16, VanHalen wrote:
ouch dude your hurt my newman's ego of being a fortefighter lol


I know a newman fortefighter.

She's surprisingly good, despite her racial disadvantages, she's still really good.

[-Ryuki-]

Kula Diamond.

My CAST hit FiGunner at lvl 1, and since then, I've been leveling him. He is my alt, and is currently lvl 11. See also, iggy?

[PaladinRPG]

On 2006-12-19 21:57, RyukiZero wrote:
Kula Diamond.

Someone is obviously a big King of Fighters fan. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Alisha]

On 2006-12-19 15:32, SolomonGrundy wrote:
Can we see someone post level 60/10 - figunner stats for a human and a cast please?

I think the ATP would be almsot the same, I am just wondering how far off the other stats are.

My thinking is that Casts can actaully take advantage of the bullet Photon Arts, while Beasts and maybe Humans would really struggle with that aspect.

Beasts HP/DFP/ATP still make them the #2 choice though

Cast>Beast>Human

IMO, of course


this is what i calculated a while ago using the info from itsuki's stat thread. human stats might be off by 1%


beast F human F cast F
hp:1838 1538 1714
atp:626 544 570
dfp:138 132 147
ata:200 246 276
eva:172 192 143
sta:14 14 14
tp:134 221 121
mst:47 68 41

[Bleemo]

On 2006-12-20 02:18, Alisha wrote:

On 2006-12-19 15:32, SolomonGrundy wrote:
Can we see someone post level 60/10 - figunner stats for a human and a cast please?

I think the ATP would be almsot the same, I am just wondering how far off the other stats are.

My thinking is that Casts can actaully take advantage of the bullet Photon Arts, while Beasts and maybe Humans would really struggle with that aspect.

Beasts HP/DFP/ATP still make them the #2 choice though

Cast>Beast>Human

IMO, of course


this is what i calculated a while ago using the info from itsuki's stat thread. human stats might be off by 1%


beast F human F cast F
hp:1838 1538 1714
atp:626 544 570
dfp:138 132 147
ata:200 246 276
eva:172 192 143
sta:14 14 14
tp:134 221 121
mst:47 68 41


Straight from google translated JP PSU Wiki:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/exiledajay/huaigannalol.jpg

Unfotunately they didn't have the stats for Cast female. Excuse the funny google translated stat listings.

HP
ATP
ATA
TAP
DFP
EVA
MST
STA

[Arieta]

On 2006-12-20 02:26, Bleemo wrote:

On 2006-12-20 02:18, Alisha wrote:

On 2006-12-19 15:32, SolomonGrundy wrote:
Can we see someone post level 60/10 - figunner stats for a human and a cast please?

I think the ATP would be almsot the same, I am just wondering how far off the other stats are.

My thinking is that Casts can actaully take advantage of the bullet Photon Arts, while Beasts and maybe Humans would really struggle with that aspect.

Beasts HP/DFP/ATP still make them the #2 choice though

Cast>Beast>Human

IMO, of course


this is what i calculated a while ago using the info from itsuki's stat thread. human stats might be off by 1%


beast F human F cast F
hp:1838 1538 1714
atp:626 544 570
dfp:138 132 147
ata:200 246 276
eva:172 192 143
sta:14 14 14
tp:134 221 121
mst:47 68 41


Straight from google translated JP PSU Wiki:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/exiledajay/huaigannalol.jpg

Unfotunately they didn't have the stats for Cast female. Excuse the funny google translated stat listings.

HP
ATP
ATA
TAP
DFP
EVA
MST
STA



Those stats are way to high to be figunner stats BTW. I'm a level 60 Beast Female Figunner (job level 6) and my ATP is like 550. There's no way I'm going to gain like 130 ATP in 4 more job levels. That stats that were posted above this though are correct. It's almost exactly the same figures I came out with for Figunner. I'm sure they're correct, since I used the same base stats that she did and got the math right for Beast Female Fortefighter 10 (only off by like 5 points on hp and atp).

[Ether]

I'm pretty sure that chart is level 70/ job 10 stats

[Bleemo]

On 2006-12-20 04:13, Ether wrote:
I'm pretty sure that chart is level 70/ job 10 stats


Lol, my mistake. Was late and did a quick skim through, totally missing the level.

LV60/10:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/exiledajay/k.jpg

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[Arieta]

That's more like it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Kula]

On 2006-12-20 02:13, PaladinRPG wrote:

On 2006-12-19 21:57, RyukiZero wrote:
Kula Diamond.

Someone is obviously a big King of Fighters fan. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif


I just think shes a cute character ;D anyway a female human Figunner isnt too much of a difference compare to a female cast one. Losing a few hp atp and ata but gain the ability of crea weapons. Plus we got more mst and evp. It all ends up to what u personally like but u wont lose too much if u pick either.

[Natrokos]

Cast Females have

4rth highest ATP (still very high)
2nd highest ATA
highest DFP
Any melee or range job is good for them. My friend is a female cast fighgunner.