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Please post yall results on this mission: Remnants of Other Worlds: Omega Masquerade.
So we can share our ideals and thoughts about how to defeat this menace to society and also share your rare drop items results to please. Good luck to yall all. May the Phantasy Star Force be with yall always. :)
Elga dropping Class Cubes should speed up the process of getting +35 on NT weapons.
Class cubes, excubes, weapon form voucher (is that what it is called?), Persona Reverie so far.
It's pretty much dodge happy to me. You can even dodge the next attack after you're locked by that whatever attack that "stuns" you (using Hero tho so far).
What Steve said.
Class cubes, Excubes, Form change vouchers, Reveries, Some SSA Capsules and something i can easily repeat and dont get punished too hard if i have to reset. Elgas fun, quite fair for a boss so far.
apparently Elga drop some S4 Abilities but unfortunately some of them are jarringly Flash related abilities.
Ahh I was actually wondering where I got the SSA in my inventory. Apparently from that. Well thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moffen
So a friend of mine got this unit on his 3rd run of Omega Masquerade.
Also, on Omega's Depth 5, he creates a clone of himself in his rage phase. It doesn't have a lot of health tho. He abuses his combo attack a lot where he dashes across the field and some attacks home in on your more than normal. The fight overall is still the same from what I've seen.
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/55b1a...c3594e-png.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/92049...8ec9b0-png.jpg
4 pillars in the corner is really handy to avoid lethal charged attacks.
so the class cubes are a guaranteed drop? , the RDB 250% is really necessary ?
this is hard esp the first stage.. how does anyone clear this at all ??
his 3 hit sword combo litaerally ignores whether you stand behind the wall or not
edit: Its fun I admit but its kinda hard.. also: Once again , the great content its stuck behind some super hard quest that only some can hope to clear...zzzzzz
when will they make a quest that is not too hard or easy to clear..
Not with bullet bow :vQuote:
Originally Posted by Moffen
Dunno tf is going on but after some time only my normals seems to deal dmg while he doesn't give a shit of any PA I throw on him (no numbers appearing too despite I hit him 0.o)
Edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJPkBc-BN4wQuote:
Originally Posted by Meteor Weapon
If you spam the same PA, he'll negate one of those PA and does it again. The worst part is it doesnt overwrite unlike Anga barrier and stacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masu
Also why are you guys calling it Elga Masquerade lol? Elga just literally means Elmir Omega. There'sno Elmir here lol.
fair ?? how is a 3 sword combo able to hit you when you are behind a wall ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZUQuote:
Originally Posted by TakemiShinnosuke
Easy.
Plowed through with talis all the way. How many more levels on this thing?
There's no title for clearing depth 5, which makes me wonder how many levels is this supposed to have. We'll find out eventually.
On depth 4 I have my 250% RDR expired and destroyed the crystal without popping RDR cause I forgotten. I only got form voucher and weapons/units, no excubes whatsoever. So I can likely assume that, yes you need RDR.Quote:
Originally Posted by silo1991
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Originally Posted by TakemiShinnosuke
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add this to your unit
Enjoy fighting this fucker so far, almost don't care that rewards were kinda meh so far.There is a title with 30 levels clearing. I guess we stuck with Masquerade for a while. I overpowered him 9 times. I wish it would be 10, but I fought with him on lower difficulty once with another class, so my progress is kinda screwed over forever.
I prefer using defensive tactics and loadouts, takes 5-7 mins to take him down usually, but still getting insta killed occasionally. Tell myself it's just bad luck and try again. Usually it's safe more or less.
Player who can afford that prolly can oneshot Masquerade. Plus, this fractions of stats is helpful, but not gamechangehing.Quote:
Originally Posted by oratank
Do drops get better at higher levels or are they still pretty much the same?
they get better the higher you go, but for now it's just higher slot number materials i got and a 2nd of this new S4 item , also boosters do have an effect on the drops, i usually get 2 class excubes with 250 RDR, none without
Btw, stage 10 got some cool surprises ^^, forgot to take screens to show you
I have no idea how this is beatable, at some point he'll just start teleporting around like crazy (while you're already avoiding a screen full of projectiles) and grab you for an insta-kill even if you're mashing the hell out of mirage escape the entire time. Real fair design. Sega seems to have an obsession with making their solo content about being able to flawlessly dodge bosses that can one shot you at any point.
Whats an easy pattern you guys figured so far?
Also, anything special going on with the units? Just another base 30 points to dmg stats?
Dodge better.
What Depth are you? I find that the easiest attack to dodge imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
Lucky run as GuHu ....
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Might want to aim Chain on head.
Personal experience, using SRollArts at close range (after double jumping) will most likely apply Chain on head.
Or wait until it does AoE circular slash before applying (don't forget to jump)
Don't try apply Chain using SRollArts when his hands reaching out (missile barrage-type attack), it'll apply on it's hand instead.
AtomizerLovers might save your life (invulnerable while using Atomizer-type items)
Also, as far as defense / HP goes, might want aim higher (I think mine's on lower side than most)
I can survive Depth 9 warp-grab-attack with Lv1 MH, using this kind of survivalability (900-ish damage taken) .....
Skill Tree as in sig.
I'll make the assumption that depth corresponds to how many times you've beaten him, in which case 1, because I can't get past that insta-kill. Even had an attempt where I'd not been hit up until that point and bam - grabbed and dead while mid-mirage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Traumin
Weird. When about are you dodging the attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
Use Safoie-0 to get away from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
Better run out of it's reach than if can't tell the grab timing.
^ It's actually significantly easier to avoid it by running or using a movement PA/Tech.
To be honest I don't know exactly how that attack is telegraphed, but when I see him teleporting around in the air (which always seems to be just before the grab) I've been spamming short mirage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Traumin
still 2' to 2:20 with sufi 2 marons, 2 melons. d10 now. have to remake 2 melons but worth it :D
Got through Depth 1 on my second try with like 8:32 (forgot to screenshot the actual time) on Su/Br playing very defensively, cycling through my 3 Marons and running away while Alter Ego was on cooldown (my first attempt was as Fi/Bo and I misjudged how far I was from him when I was charging a Resta).
I was able to avoid them all by trying to mirage perpendicular to him just as he reappears rather than forward or back; when fighting Elga in the story, I noticed that the cage's reach seems to extend a bit further forward, but is somewhat narrower than the model would suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
Just cleared the first depth, but only barely by the grace of Iron Will. Ra has so few good PAs to use against a hyper-mobile boss like that that by the end I was just loading weak bullets just to lob at him for the damage :V
Got a 6s persona reverie unit tho, so woohoo?
Done with all classes, and up to floor 10, Wasn't exactly easy but not as gruesome as solo XQ
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Anyone struggling at level 1 won't make it to 10. Just about every hit bleeds you, projectiles poison you, its ring closes on you and freezes you. Masquerade erupts spikes all around you for several seconds while attacking you with either melee or range (sometimes both). Its clone is stronger at level 10 and it looks like masquerade's ultimate strike has an extra finisher move? (I could be wrong).
Cleared it, but not so proud of my time. I hope that level 10 isn't the end of the line.
Like Reilet said you can avoid it just by moving away, well at least to the side to be safe (as anduril said, perpendicular?). He stall a little bit quite long after he does that so you don't wanna get too far anyway to give more hits or do whatever like shifta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
Edit: I forgot to add cause the talk was mirage stuff. If you can time it properly, the grab can be countered/normally dodged as well.
my times so far have all been around 2:50~3:20 on hu/fi, but man that bleed can be nasty, at first it was just on the ending part of his combo after enrage but by depth 9~10 he got it on the big spin move too, oh lawdy if he ends up getting heal jamming in later depths :wacko:
i noticed one of his attacks (those slow orbs he shoots that poison you) seem to go through my charge parrying without actually procing the guard, just guarding normally works fine but man those things certainly loved to loop around on me sometimes
this is actually fun content and a great casual filter. please make it the new Expert Block req sega <3
the unfun part is 5 runs ends too fast
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Agent Falco
But i will say, this is the perfect "daily" for the end game players, Rewarding for those of us who doesn't feel like waiting for apprentice or mech raids for decent drops to sell later.
It probably lingers awhile after it explodes bypassing your Iframe timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaylar
To avoid the teleport grab, just ran, it's just that easy, although I prefer to stay still and counter him like a bossQuote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
for anyone having trouble with this boss, just go to the story mode version and memorize his attacks, once you know his moves and know how to avoid/block them, its not that hard
I fighted him so many times in story mode and now him is no that hard to me
I really love this boss and wanted to fight a stronger version of him, the only thing I dont like about this quest is that he dont speak, Its more fun to me if he is speaking to me, taunting at me, really hope that he starts speaking at higher levels, that and also that we can only fight him 5 times a day
Cleared Depth 10 without problems, forgot to record it, so Im going to leave this screen for now
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So I have noticed, during my runs from Depth 6-10. He never once did his resistance barrier. I was using JBs mostly spamming Gran Wave, occassionaly Strike Gust, Moment Gale when he summons his clones and occassional IlGrants. He never once resisted anything I did. However, on floors 2-5, he did it every round.
I do not understand how I am avoiding that barrier.
On the other hand as a hero I found the barrier popping up more and more frequently as I advanced past depth 6. I finished depth 10 with the sword shift action energy beams because he became resistant to rising slash, vapor bullet, and I think counters as well - and that's with mixing up my attacks and not just spamming a single one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suirano
So far the difficulty growth of the fight was very well done, with every depth becoming harder at about the same rate as the player's familiarity with the fight grows - because of it, I didn't find myself having a significantly more difficult time with depth 10 than I did with depth 1. Hopefully the quest will keep this up and not stonewall us with ridiculous barrier limits, massive healing reduction (noticed -10% already on depth 10) or other punishing mechanics.
Also this means if you can clear even the first depth, then with practice you can master them all as well. At least that's the case so far.
according to twitter, the barrier occurs anytime you've done 20% of his max HP with a single PA/hr counter. even if you alternate, eventually he will resist your highest dmging PA once it accumulates to around 1.5-2mil dmg of that PA unless you're using 6+ PAs (which doesn't seem particularly efficient anyway).
any HR clear video?
He plays dirtyQuote:
Originally Posted by milranduil
Nice, more headaches incoming <_<" So I guess at very last stages everyone will end up using a GS or spamming normals xDQuote:
Originally Posted by milranduil
Also is the rear item a stage 10 reward or can I consider myself "lucky" with this? (still no 12* rear :( )
You mean this attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Falcon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JYYUBJ_DCw#t=3m04s
I find it to be one of his easiest attacks to dodge, pretty much just dodge to the left when he's about to hit. ^^;
I guess you can check the video I linked above, it's just depth 1 and I'm pretty clumsy at dodging sometimes (and I even had to rely on Hero Will at one point), but I did clear it as Hero, using mostly sword and switching to talis when he was resisting the sword counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by TakemiShinnosuke
any HR clear video?
Check the last post of the previous page. ^^;Quote:
Originally Posted by TakemiShinnosuke
Though one thing to note, before he powers up, I find it much easier to dodge his attacks by dodging to the left than to the right, I often get hit when trying to dodge to the right (happens a few times in the video I linked in the last page).
I sometimes dodge his grab attack by simply standing still and attacking so frankly I'm not sure what piece of advise I could give.
The way his double slash with timeskip works is very weird to me. I seem to only be able to counter the second slash.
hr counter should work on the time stop but it's very early. if you see yourself take a small amount of damage, that's what freezes you and you countered too late. i just spent an hour practicing with a 1* katana in story, i'd recommend it to anyone having trouble.
edit: i just tested in story and hr can counter it. it's just very early. the grab can generously be avoided with brightness end parry as well.
The time stop hit would be just when he starts swinging his sword at you. I've been hero countering that pretty reliably.
My suggestion for him is to switch to tmg and dodge when you see him start moving his sword out of the pose, that way if you get hit by the time stop u still would get the iframe from the counter if you are invisible in the time stop.
To avoid the time stop, use dodge at the right time, he starts using it at Phase 2
When he is doing this pose it means he is going to use it
Spoiler!
Wait until he jumps and start spining
Dodge here
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Also for some reason some people dont know, but you can break free of the time stop if you move fast in circles (this also applies to Luther time stop and any stun move) so if it freezes you there is not really a problem
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You can also block/counter his teleport grab if you didn't know
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Sorry if my english is bad sometimes
I haven't seen anybody say anything about it, so I will post it here: it looks like the time freeze is a STUN, so you can shake out of it. Getting out of it early can help you deal with the big attack afterward. I also noticed that the big attack seemed to be aimed at where you were frozen. I was hit with it in mid-air at low double jump height, then I shook out and landed. His big attack then whiffed over my head.
Disclaimer: note that I have only fought up to level 4 because I haven't had much time to play. It's possible that the time freeze changes properties at higher difficulties.
Edit: my statement about the time freeze was ninja'd :-(
I think I'm just a shitter at this rate because my first and only clear took 10:43; I ended up killing him with Elder DB
Hey, at least you survived and win (and experienced smashing the guy with DB).Quote:
Originally Posted by Traumin
I'm pretty sure despite of how many success we find here, there are still those who end up dead all the time and still trying their best.
Well not sure if later stages will require everyone to end up using DB (in terms of benefit) or not, we'll see.
https://i.gyazo.com/d6fe3e3e1619d0f0...5ebebf6eba.jpg
At least I cleared each stage on first try so far. Somehow he resisted katana counter most of the time.
ha... my record is 9:23 minutes with my jetboots BO/HU , but i dont deny i almost used the DB too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Traumin
i was dodging all the time with the weapon action it looked fun , but i just cleared the level 1 , the level 2 got me :/
So the first sword slash is actually active "before" you see him striking? OK...
I had no idea that Dark Blast is allowed here, but it will certainly help if his HP continue to grow.
Yeah, I only got DB cause I got to 10 minutes and my attacks finally charged it up lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ZerotakerZX
First time he froze me i just did what i do with Luther freeze, either counter or shake out of it. It just felt too obvious but i think if sega didnt let you, ppl would be super upsetQuote:
Originally Posted by Loveless62
By the time I completed it without problems ~
https://img.fenixzone.net/i/aw2Qk9S.jpeg
The only inconvenient he has had is when he makes his counter
Starting with depth 14, he starts to summon a copy the second time, when very low on HP.
First time he did it, he actually died a moment later so the copy became passive and just walked away. Funny thing.
Depth 15 Cleared, I'm really having fun with this boss
I messed it up a few times, I got hit several times and I messed up the counter timing sometimes
https://youtu.be/N7PM2OiEnwA
He always summons a clone if you take too long even in depth 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by TehCubey
Then he does it faster than on earlier depths, because my depth 15 clear was actually faster than depth 5, and only several seconds longer than depth 10 (5:53 for hr - not the best score but whatever). Yet I saw him summon a second clone while he didn't do it before.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossOmega
Cleared Depth 15. I guess I am fortunate that I have always been varied with JBs so far since he still doesn't use the barrier on me. I wonder how the arena will change at Depth 20.
managed to clean up my phase1 more or less. missed a few counters, probably would have been sub 2 otherwise. shien katana
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Well, I made it to it's final phase after the 4 tries (took me 2 tries to learn that using Barantsion was suicide :( ), but I ran out of useful light techniques that he wasn't blocking. Any strategies to will prevent him from blocking techniques?
you have to resort to using ilbarta. you can lock onto his core so it's damage isn't unreasonable but, you don't really have other options. no way around him blocking techs, once a single tech has done 20% of his HP, that tech is blocked. each tech/compound has its own barrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_importer_
I'm not entirely sure myself, but I think you have to vary, mix and match different moves. If this won't prevent him from blocking anything, but can at least greatly postpone barrier rising. At least I play as Fi and and constantly using different PAs and never had any real problems with barriers.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_importer_
To add to what Mil saidQuote:
Originally Posted by the_importer_
While the way I did with FO is not exactly time attack tier, it still let me clear within 3 minutes or so
- Throw a few ragrants while keeping close, wait for him to backdash, then use Barantsion sideways during his projectile barrage (you can also release Barantsion right as he does the final attack of his double slash into slam but that requires some good timing since the invul on that is pretty short). Use Re Barantsia when you feel the need to dodge and reposition.
- Use Pflare with rod and spam Ilgrants + Grants. you want to do about 2 grants for 1 Ilgrants. Don't hesitate to use pillars as cover for his projectile barrage.
If you do well enough, he should actually be well into his second phase and decide to resist one, if not both your techs. If not you can keep using the techs even outside of Pflare to shave off as much of his HP as you can.
- You can now pop Zandion very freely, just be sure it's either well before, or after his grab attack because your Zandion would then fully miss during his teleports.
Normally with all this he should be close, or using his final attack. Just push him to that threshold with techs he hasn't resisted yet (grants/Ilgrants/Ragrants/Ilbarta as Mil said is okay too). I'd advise to use Nabarta if you're a bit unsure about the timings.
- Regardless of whether or not he performed his ultimate attack, once you run out of light techs, and provided your compounds landed,he should be veeery close to death, so you can normally finish him off with Re Barantsia and/or another Barantsion if it went off cooldown.(depending on how much you used it to reposition, he might end up resisting that, but when he does, one of your 3 other light techs hasn't been resisted yet so you can finish him off with said tech instead)
My FO gear is not that godly, and I didn't go there with mad boosts or mad strats either, but pretty sure FO can ruin this boss in around 2 minutes (my 3 minutes run was on stage 7 and I only looked for a not too painful clear). This strat also revolves around your compound actually landing, so be sure to resort to Ilbarta should they miss and all your light techs are cucked
I haven't tried myself, but how does a ranger deal with this quest? Parallel Slide 0 seems great until he blocks it. What do you have after that? Facetank him while using end attract or sat cannon? Can your mates last enough?
And the high jump + double jump into end attract strat doesnt sound too good here since mask seems to be able to reach anywhere with his attacks.
Unfortunately I had to start going down the list. One point and piercing shell work well enough, but past that you start having to rely on stuff like grenade shell and homing emission-0. Loading and using wbs just for their damage is also an option. Also, I don't recommend using tps mode due to how flighty he is. Just lock on and don't let him out of your sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidAG
you can use a combination of weak bullet and launcher PAs to circumvent that (Zero Distance and Rodeo Drive 0 are surprisingly good at that) to postpone the inevitable Parallel Slider resist. Good old One point and Homing emission 0 are also pretty good for this bossQuote:
Originally Posted by DavidAG
On the depth's selector there's 3 numbers ... so that's mean this boss have at least 100 depth, and potentially 999 !! :-D
Works on lower levels, Depth 10 and higher is almost impossible due to HP sponge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephyrion
I'm not noticing anything different in the fight on level 15 other than more ground spikes throughout. I want to see Omega Masquerade spam projectiles and floor spikes on higher levels.
They will have to make it worth to run then.10>15 nothing worth and nothing better than lower ones (unit slots wise). If it's just for ego strokes then am out of this :etongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFanaticViper
But curiosity kills man. Anyway I kinda feel the number of drops increases... but maybe it's just my feeling I dunno cause I didn't count. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Masu
The fight itself is worth any effort and overdue in pso2. I didn't think pso2 had it in them to make a beast like omega masquerade. This game needs more content like this and clearing the final stage should be the new expert mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masu
the barrier's are % based, so it doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meteor Weapon
Well maybe maybe some coobs and units with lower slots than before...wew! XD About curiosity. If it was another game, yeah maybe but we all know that it will turn into total bullshit at some point 0u0Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveCZ
Tried this run for the 1st time. Thnx for the hints and tips for fighting this guy. Helped immensely. Ran SuFi and as expected from my semi-scrub status, I did struggle a bit but wasn't too bad. Only had trouble when I didn't time my restas and Masquerade started to close in on me. I thought that his barriers would have launched immediately after a pillow throw but they did not. Had a 5:27 time but could have halfed that run if I had just spammed pillow throws at the beginning.
I would love to see a Triple Masuqerade Code fight in a Raid EQ one day. Would be pretty lulzy-worthy to see.
Ohmygod u right. Our lives are pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFanaticViper
I was able to overcome my previous record, I feel that I could do one shoot to my pets soon.
https://img.fenixzone.net/i/yzWflQ4.jpeg
What's the extra reward (I did Depth 1 twice on my alt, so, my max Depth will be 19 later) ^^;Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahri
No have tittle the floor 20 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by final_attack
Someone must have giggled to themselves when they made Depth 20 reward 10 SG. Why even bother putting that there. :v
This is so impressive! Mind sharing the strategy to this please? kinda having a bad time past stage 10 :<Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahri
maybe hard to finish for some etc etc
but look at it another way and this is what i see
- can be used as a gear check/ play style check cause every level he gets tougher
new content ( weapon form passes etc ) is locked behind this quest.
- before it becomes mainstream they would need to know how many people actually want it..
i tried this as SU/FI, i didnt realize what a big joke SU made it to be (i didnt revolver Maron either)
Got to depth 4 and stopped, the fight is alright except for the insta kills that sometimes happen but I'd honestly play it more if we had a 4-player (or even just 2-player) version or something, so I could mess around with friends while doing it.
I have no problems sharing my strategy with you ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by XeNoSLaSHeR
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/345988907
All my effort is based on my personal experience and I can measure the risks correctly
Everyone who uses maron revolver is a fucking inexperienced who do not know how to properly use a class, congratulations that you are not one of those ~Quote:
Originally Posted by Kril
theres nothing bad about doing that though, its easy damage but with this particular quest its not obviously not recommended with the dmg nullification but with how I play SU i dont always do it, its actually rare for me now a days to use revolver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahri