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    PSP2 Inzuna you are a moody twat sometimes, as seen...

    Inzuna you are a moody twat sometimes, as seen over and over again. I never said Newmans make the best rangers...and you are free to prove me wrong whenever you want.


    Evasion is a big deal,...
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    PSP2 I am going to go on the previously established...

    I am going to go on the previously established premise that guns are ATP+ATA based, and the 3 ranged weapons (r-mags, cards and bows) are TP+ATA based.

    With that said, here's a few more points...
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    PSP2 Okay that would solve the problem, all guns use...

    Okay that would solve the problem, all guns use ATA and ATP then? BUT!!!! That goes entirely against what like 75 people have said on these boards.
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    PSP2 Yes, I addressed that. That's the formula I...

    Yes, I addressed that. That's the formula I described, but it also goes against some calculations this guy did before, (he said in all of his tests, casts out damage newmans with TP based guns...
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    PSP2 Can we all work together and figure out exactly...

    Can we all work together and figure out exactly what is the damage calculation for guns? I've heard TOTALLY mixed things from people on these boards, and there's a formula floating around for ATP...
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    PSP2 Male newman hunter won't be that difficult,...

    Male newman hunter won't be that difficult, actually. They make bad hunters, but hunters are very easy regardless. They play like a vanguard...and actually, they seem to be among the best users of...
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    PSP2 What is the proper way to use slicers? With a...

    What is the proper way to use slicers? With a mech gun?
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    PSP2 Yep 2 cards for non-rangers, 3 for rangers. They...

    Yep 2 cards for non-rangers, 3 for rangers. They are actually pretty good to restore pp because of the way they work...decent combo builder also. I like them but they are quirky and mech guns may be...
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    PSP2 Does R mag use ATA+TP? I know cards are...

    Does R mag use ATA+TP? I know cards are also...cards should have been 3 bullets for all classes, honestly but whatever.
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    PSP2 I think I started a tide of beasts O_o

    I think I started a tide of beasts O_o
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    PSP2 Some weapons get some interesting bonuses for...

    Some weapons get some interesting bonuses for extending them...I'm not sure entirely, but I hear psycho wand is one such example.

    It's also a way to make your favorite weapon usable even if it's...
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    PSP2 Hahaha I think peace has returned to the...

    Hahaha I think peace has returned to the "Starting character" forum.

    The US release is coming up, I'm looking forward to playing with some of you folks when it does. PSP2 is the first time that...
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    PSP2 Yeah the debuffing thing kind of bites....but I...

    Yeah the debuffing thing kind of bites....but I believe in order to even be effective as a melee force one would need to rely on them constantly, or at least Zalure for sure. What's difficult about...
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    PSP2 Inzuna I can play you on the demo :D Okay so...

    Inzuna I can play you on the demo :D

    Okay so we got you, you have a vendetta against the entire class of Force. We're on the same page then, which is why I want to have my first character be the...
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    PSP2 Inzuna stop being a priss. Of course I've played...

    Inzuna stop being a priss. Of course I've played PSP2. But since you are being such a fiddle sticks let me prove that female force beasts are on par with male human forces.

    Male human/female beast...
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    PSP2 What was being discussed is the ability to...

    What was being discussed is the ability to compare beast teching to human teching. Since there is over lap, they fall in the same range. I view casts and humans as being in the same tier of ATP...
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    PSP2 Why does everyone assume I have no clue what I'm...

    Why does everyone assume I have no clue what I'm talking about? Ugh.

    Okay, look up max stats for forces. Beast females have the EXACT same TP as human male forces. Same PP and same PP regen.
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    PSP2 Prolly not many, but just sayin. 3rd level...

    Prolly not many, but just sayin.

    3rd level stat changers are worth a force character, even if teching is rarely used. Trust boo, trust.

    I wouldn't mind a FOcast for the same reasons, but...
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    PSP2 So, if striking PA's are better then techs, techs...

    So, if striking PA's are better then techs, techs shouldn't be used unless again, the enemies are melee resistant. Deband and shifta won't be cast ALL the time, Zalure and Jellen yes they need to be...
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    PSP2 Forces still have insanely high MST. Beast force...

    Forces still have insanely high MST. Beast force has higher MST than any non-force too....which means in a tech heavy area, FObeasts will outsurvive vanguards! BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!...snort.
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    PSP2 I've never played PSU, actually and am...

    I've never played PSU, actually and am unaquainted with their community.

    The build would probably be something like:

    Debuff mag+whip/saber/whatever's clever
    Sheild+resta/Zalure wand
    Double...
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    PSP2 Actually, it's well established that beasts make...

    Actually, it's well established that beasts make some of the best forces, in particular females.

    Also, Vanguards stop at level 20 techs... meaning they don't get the highest level...there's 4...
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    PSP2 Level 30 buffs and debuffs are why I'm going that...

    Level 30 buffs and debuffs are why I'm going that route, plus I want to be able to use level 30 techs as finishing moves. The PP stuff I could care less about... plus as a force you get tech PP cost...
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    PSP2 Yeah my FObeast will basically be played as melee...

    Yeah my FObeast will basically be played as melee with a few techs here and there. Battle mage.

    Also keep in mind female beasts are equal to male humans in PP and PP restoration (And TP at the...
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    PSP2 Well RAmarl has SO much more PP than casts, it...

    Well RAmarl has SO much more PP than casts, it seems a bit easier to spam those big guns. I dunno... when the US release comes like I say, FObeast then I'll figure out what's up.

    And yeah, that's...
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