PSZ Trade Board Assistance Topic + Item Value Index (PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!)

[Chaos Rappy]

Made some additions to the disclaimer.

As for you, Cruc, I would very much like to know what items you are talking about. If you think that something is not listed correctly, tell me, and we can negotiate about the possibilties of reassessing a new location for it on the list.

EDIT: Oh, and no one requested me to make it, but I'm getting slightly annoyed by people going and trying to trade without proper knowledge of the rarity of the items they were trying to trade and were basically making themselves look like fools when they offer crappy things for awesome rares. <_<

[Cruciarius]

Chaos, we already tried discussing some of the items I'm talking about and you argued your luck vs mine.

[Chaos Rappy]

I have conceded about the Garapython Fang being too common for Tier 2, however Garahadan Fangs are still much too common throughout the PSZ community for it to be ranked any higher than Tier 3. I don't care how good it is, because it's an enemy part weapon, but it's all the same with enemy parts because you can always make a godly one, but because so many people have them and how many of them have been gotten throughout the entire community as a whole, they can never be Tier 3. Now, White Barrel on the other hand, it's because it's a RARE hostile stock part, not because it's good, that makes it a Tier 4 item. I don't think I'd trade a White Barrel for a Garadan Fang, myself... you get me?

EDIT: Also, to help myself in this equation with now personal experience, it's only taken me one and a half runs to get my first Garahadan Fang of the night while I hunt for Tormatibles/Eridanus... just more stuff to add to all this. <_<

[Cruciarius]

I've found an Eridanus today, but I don't recall it being any good, as far as %s, PA or element.

As for the Garahadan Fang, I still feel it should be in a higher tier. I've ran dozens of super valley runs, but have only ever found 3 or 4 of the Garahadan Fang. You seem to find them every other run, but they're harder to find than even seeing a Tormatible or Blaze Helion, for me.

[Chaos Rappy]

Well, I'm afraid I cannot allow it to be higher, for the basis of attempting to be completely unbiased on how it relates to the values of other items in trade. I also ask you, if you want it in Tier 4, which is harder to get: an Adoralphs with a Lv4 element, the perfect PA, and ungodly high stats of your desire in comparison to other items in the listes, or a Garahadan Fang? I think the answer is obvious, so you can't expect me to allow stats to be a factor as hard in the Hadan Bite's choosing, whereas the opposite for something like Adoralphs. Which do you think you get more of on a runly basis from the ENEMIES that drop it (not counting Mothers for the Adoralphs)? Out of the two, I'm pretty sure I've only ever found about 5 or so Adoralphs from non-Mother bosses, whereas the Fangs, I've probably found a dozen of in my entire file, and if I'm not correct in how many enemies I've killed, I've killed less of them than you and ended up with more Garahadan Fangs than you? I would assume luck plays a more major role in your whole thought process in considering its rarity, but even so, the fact lies in that Garahadan Fang is far too common of an item to be considered Tier 4 material.

[Chaos Rappy]

MAJOR BUMPDATE. Topic is now not only for the Item Value Index but a full-blown user's guide on trade topic making... kinda.

[Galax]

Chaos, I can't help it...
It's Cross Rave.
Not Cross Slash.
...Yeah, I know, minor, but I can't help it.
(OCD and all that.)

[Chaos Rappy]

Wait, what? I put Cross Slash? I could've sworn I typed Cross Rave... I had Cross Rave in my mind as I typed that, too... @_@

...I can never understand my mind at times. This morning on my BM-4 exam, I put "ant" instead of and, and in another question, repeated an entire line. Not just a sentence, but I literally copied the lines above down below it and then continued on as if nothing happened without even noticing... I am bad today. <_<

[Galax]

Wait, what? I put Cross Slash? I could've sworn I typed Cross Rave... I had Cross Rave in my mind as I typed that...

...I can never understand my mind at times. This morning on my BM-4 exam, I put "ant" instead of and, and in another question, repeated an entire line. Not just a sentence, but I literally copied the lines above down below it and then continued on as if nothing happened without even noticing... I am bad today. <_<

Yes, you did, but don't worry about it. I do that all the time ;p

[Cruciarius]

It's really sad when someone needs to read a thread telling them to supply a list of items they have to trade, when they're going to make a thread looking for something. It should be obvious that you should say what you have to trade and what you want. Not one or the other.

Then again... I suppose you could post a list of things you have to trade, but no wants. As long as you're willing to consider anything offered.