PSO2 - Gameguard Crash 114 - Please help :) (DXDIAG included)

[rysashiii]

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[Ana-Chan]

Have you tried disabling your antivirus completely while you run PSO2. Obviously only disable it for the period of time that you are testing it out since I'm not the kind of person to suggest you leave your system at risk for longer than needed.

[rysashiii]

Oh i've done that already, comodo and eset turned off and disabled. Even window's firewall. Nothing's working

[NightfallG]

Nope, same version, but x64 versions of Windows can run 32 bit applications. PSO2 is a 32 bit application, so both 32 bit and x64 versions of Windows can run it with no problems.
This ability is brought to you by the technology called WoW64.

The real differences between platforms is how GameGuard is acting. It was never tested in a live environment where the stuff that they are attempting to block on x64 systems are used even by system components. Well, these same methods was even used on 32 bit Windows for general applications too, which makes me wonder why they even went down this route.

Wasn't it because people were using native 64-bit utilities to cheat? I thought GG 32-bit couldn't touch those.

[rysashiii]

No idea...

My gamemon.des and gameguard.des are acting up...any solutions please?

[Ana-Chan]

Wasn't it because people were using native 64-bit utilities to cheat? I thought GG 32-bit couldn't touch those.

Yup, things get complicated when you are trying to touch a native application from a WoW application. A 32 bit application cannot read from, write to or easily touch a 64 bit process directly.

But, a 64 bit process can access a 32 bit process without any issues. So if you have a 64 bit version of a certain cheat program then it will be able to access a 32 bit version of a game. Anyway, there is one definitive way to show that a process is 32 bit on an x64 system.



Do you see the *32 next to pso2.exe and gamemon.des? That means that it is a 32 bit process. There is also reading the publicly documented executable header that can be read easily and without confusion because Microsoft publishes this specification for everyone to see. This information can also be read by tools freely available from any good compiler vendor.

E:\SEGA\PHANTASYSTARONLINE2\pso2_bin>dumpbin /headers pso2.exe
Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 11.00.50522.1
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Dump of file pso2.exe

PE signature found

File Type: EXECUTABLE IMAGE

FILE HEADER VALUES
14C machine (x86)
6 number of sections
5027B57E time date stamp Sun Aug 12 14:54:06 2012
0 file pointer to symbol table
0 number of symbols
E0 size of optional header
10F characteristics
Relocations stripped
Executable
Line numbers stripped
Symbols stripped
32 bit word machine

So yes, pso2.exe is a 32 bit application, even on 64 bit systems.