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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    Not a bad idea.



    Pretty sure they would adjust so that off-elements to be at 50% first and then boost by whatever percent which would be the same as the weapon's element. Also, a weapon becomes obsolete when better ones come along, not by downgrading it. There would be a shit show for anyone that got a EPD at +35 by trading 3000 crests 0_o

    Once again, I will put my powers of predictions to the test.

    Atra Rod: Will match the off-elements at 50% and will then increase power with an extra 10%
    EPD: Will match the off-elements at 50% and will then increase power with an extra 35%
    Austere-NT Rod: Will clean the floor with these last 2 rods
    that's just it though we do have better ones coming along. lumiere update/upgrade (whichever sega actually decides to do) and shien exist. both do more with matching element by a good chunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    atra doesn't need a boost though because it already has a pot of 10% as you said and SSA slots. it already does more damage than EPD to begin with. EPD is the thing becoming worthless.
    Atra Rod is NOT as powerful as EPD, there's still the matter of having to use a 1/8 to get the elements at 50% to begin with and the fact that EPD has a lot more T-ATK when fully grinded to 35.

    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    that's just it though we do have better ones coming along. lumiere update/upgrade (whichever sega actually decides to do) and shien exist. both do more with matching element by a good chunk.
    I'll have to see, didn't really read-up about upcoming rods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    Atra Rod is NOT as powerful as EPD, there's still the matter of having to use a 1/8 to get the elements at 50% to begin with and the fact that EPD has a lot more T-ATK when fully grinded to 35.
    i mean... with a proper affix on both atra just beats EPD. i did the calc, i tested with both, same result. there is no point arguing it lol. here

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    i mean... with a proper affix on both atra just beats EPD. i did the calc, i tested with both, same result. there is no point arguing it lol. here
    I'll be the judge of that, show me the affixes and I'll do math myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    I'll be the judge of that, show me the affixes and I'll do math myself.
    1) the affixes are in the screenshot.
    2) i compared the damage myself with both an atra rod and EPD as i had both when i made crest EPD
    3) my damage calc has never been wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    1) the affixes are in the screenshot.
    2) i compared the damage myself with both an atra rod and EPD as i had both when i made crest EPD
    3) my damage calc has never been wrong.
    I think your screenshot is incomplete or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    i mean... with a proper affix on both atra just beats EPD. i did the calc, i tested with both, same result. there is no point arguing it lol. here
    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    I think your screenshot is incomplete or something.
    The affixes are implied by the notation. For Atra, "423" means 4% damage s1, 2% damage s2, and 3% damage s3. "120pw" implies the non-SSA affixes are like astral/ether/grace/weak.

    "220pw" for EPD probably implies a 7s affix like astral/ether/mod/sentence triple/tech VI/weak/grace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    I think your screenshot is incomplete or something.
    what? to what end are you even saying this? the affix is incomplete? my damage comparison is incomplete? what's incomplete about this? please just admit you are wrong before you make an even worse fool of yourself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer_ View Post
    I'll be the judge of that, show me the affixes and I'll do math myself.
    Atra can use SSAs while EPD can't, SSAs are enough to not only close the gap but to even surpass EPD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milranduil View Post
    i mean... with a proper affix on both atra just beats EPD. i did the calc, i tested with both, same result. there is no point arguing it lol. here
    Ah, I thought the EPD still had the upper hand. Well, any weapon without access to SSA really is almost worthless now.
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