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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrion View Post
    meaning if you didn't check Expert, you can't join any mpa with expert and vice-versa
    Actually, the check box doesn't toggle between Expert and non-Expert, rather it toggles between Expert-only and Mixed (players who have and have not met Expert conditions); as long as you have the Expert conditions unlocked, you can still join Expert-only parties if you have the check box off.*
    The check box just does two things:
    1. It prevents you from joining Mixed parties
    2. It prevents players who haven't met Expert conditions from joining your party through the quest counter

    There are a couple of other things related to this as well; if you have the check box on, you can still invite non-Expert players to your party, but the game will have you temporarily disable the Expert-only flag to start a mission with them, and if you have the check box off, joining an Expert-only MPA will automatically make your party Expert-only which will then also prevent non-Expert players from joining your party.

    *You can check this yourself quite easily right now with all the Ult Lillipa MPAs going on: go to the quest counter and look for an MPA while you have the check box on, join it "as another party," then abandon, toggle off Expert-only, then look for the same MPA, and you should still be able to join it with no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralf542 View Post
    How much damage boost does Lightning Espada - NT give when matching elements?
    Sadly, even the JP Wiki doesn't say anything about it. I know that's far from accurate but I did a little experiment with a Light 60 Lightning Espada +31 (1533 S-ATK) and a Dark 60 Lightning Espada +31 (1533 S-ATK) on a Level 80 HEro with no Units/MAG and zero SP used on the Skill Tree. I repeatedly used the first strike of a normal combo on a Level 75 Oro-ogar's leg (XH). Here are the results below for the first 20 strikes (I went to 100+ but the ratio doesn't change) :

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    So, the damage boost seems to be around 942 / 705 = 1.336 (33%) but this takes elemental weakness boost in consideration too. AFAIK, matching weaknesses basically gives a x1.20 damage boost. So, we could imagine the damage boost of the Lightning Espada's Potential to be around 11% at Level 3 (1.336 / 1.20 = 1.113). Once again, keep in mind that's an estimation which has to be taken with a pinch of salt (I do what I can but I'm not a specialist) !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrence View Post
    AFAIK, matching weaknesses basically gives a x1.20 damage boost
    The damage multiplier for non-techs only increases the bonus damage from your element, not the whole damage of the attack.

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    You're right. Maybe I've played FOrce for too long... In any case, would you mind fixing my calculations please ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrence View Post
    You're right. Maybe I've played FOrce for too long... In any case, would you mind fixing my calculations please ?
    the easiest way would be to reverse calculate for the potential. that'll require your attack stat at the time of the strike, the mob and location of where you hitted it (easiest to do on an oodan), have it be a crit, your skill tree, and any other things that you might have that affects damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilet View Post
    the easiest way would be to reverse calculate for the potential. that'll require your attack stat at the time of the strike, the mob and location of where you hitted it (easiest to do on an oodan), have it be a crit, your skill tree, and any other things that you might have that affects damage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Terrence View Post
    (...) a Light 60 Lightning Espada +31 (1533 S-ATK) and a Dark 60 Lightning Espada +31 (1533 S-ATK) on a Level 80 HEro with no Units/MAG and zero SP used on the Skill Tree. I repeatedly used the first strike of a normal combo on a Level 75 Oro-ogar's leg (XH).
    The character had 2316 S-ATK with the equipped swords and there was no critical hit. It would be nice if one could figure this out because I'm unable to do it myself. Thanks for your answer.

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    From what I can do with the current information... It comes to be about 24%

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    I've read 23% on Swiki in regards to Espada.

    Easiest way to find out the percentages is to Grind it to +10 Lv0 Pot; find out crit damage, unlock Pot 1 and find out crit damage again.

    That'll get you Lv1 pot. Do the same for +20 Lv1 -> +20 Lv2, and +30 Lv2 -> +30 Lv3

    and you should get the % for each respective level.



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    I must have missed it. Thanks for the information, Neko. That's would back up the calculation made by Reilet (thank you too).

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    Does logging into this link automatically pre-register an account for Idola? Or do I have to navigate the browser untranslatable moonrunes to something else I should be clicking on after logging in?

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