While I agree with your post on a lot of points, I don't really think that 'cuteness' is the problem for Elins and similar characters. Let's disentangle 'cuteness', 'sexyness', and other things real quick.Originally Posted by Zyrusticae
See, this shit weirds me out, because you already get LOADS of shit that caters to your tastes specifically.
Meanwhile, the only games that ever do the whole 'cuteness' thing are Korean or Japanese games, and apparently even that is too much for some people.
Not a lot of purely 'cute' races/characters are actually that controversial. Popori from TERA? I don't see massive hate and complaints about them. Tarutaru/Lalafell from Final Fantasy MMOs? Nope, no controversy there. Hell, the latter probably look the youngest out of any MMO race and they really don't get much hate at all.
Can a race go for 'cuteness' and 'sexyness' at the same time? Sure. You'll run into varying degrees of this, although it's hit or miss and usually gets it's own small hatedom and eye-rolling (uh-huh, sure you made that Mithra because of the DEX). But nowhere to the degree of Elins.
Elins are super controversial because:
- Thongs and bikinis*
- On a character that looks 6 years old
- With giant hips.
- Playerbase got MAD AS FUCK when said buttfloss became bootyshorts, adding several square inches of clothing to the model.
- To play a certain class, you HAVE to be an Elin. There is no other option.
*I'll concede right now that said clothing isn't unique to Elins in TERA, at all. And that it's ridiculously over the top on any female class.
For what it's worth, I can respect that someone's going for cute when they're making characters. I usually do give them benefit of the doubt.Is it really so bad that there are other options out there for people who don't share your tastes?
For that matter, is it really IMPOSSIBLE for you to, you know, just acknowledge that your tastes are different without implying that those other guys are creeps for not sharing your more socially-acceptable tastes?
Moving on...
Yeah, I'll pretty much full on agree with this part.I mean, hell, not gonna lie, I find anyone who chooses to make their character with balloons on their chests to have, at the very least, misplaced priorities, with an undercurrent of creepiness from the simple fact that you're literally making a doll to spring a hard one over rather than anything resembling an interesting character.
I mean, it's obviously worse when the sexual focus is on someone that looks very underage. But hypersexualization just gets very old and cringe-worthy quickly. Elin was by far the worst, but I was still rolling my eyes pretty hard at all the other races.
Hell, I switched from comic book-tier proportions since it got pretty old and limited costume options too much. Pretty much anything new was cringey or just outright silly.
I'd like more second opinions, but that might just be me.Yet I choose not to tell people this because I know they don't fuckin' care to hear it (and besides that, I'm obviously a minority there anyway). It's not very difficult, you know. I just... don't do it. In fact, it takes negative effort! I can choose to spend that energy elsewhere, doing more productive/less asinine things. It's wonderful.
Well, cool, at least people can find common ground and remain civil!There are exceptions, like that abomination up there, but those are exceptions for good reason (and I'm still only attacking the character design, not the maker for doing it). I will not make it a rule to ridicule you or Cherise or anyone else personally just because I find your tastes in character-making questionable.
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