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    Quote Originally Posted by Atmius View Post
    Quite so, this weeks scratch is lackluster, which is good because I need to save medals. Unrelated, I scratched 35k fun in order to get facet folia 6 on a character who didn't have it, and compared it almost to elder rebellion 10/ex. It's on par if not stronger than ER10.
    Seriously? lol

    I don't doubt it but that is pretty crazy. I finally got Elder EX after all this time during the New Years scratch but I feel like I hardly care. With the exception of new EX missions which won't be coming for a little while, I'm just sticking with TDags for now. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorak000 View Post
    I hope Madame Umbrella got a good ex skill
    she can work with Ice chips on top of her working with Dark chips. not bad; not the best outcome but still pretty good

    actually since she has you regenerate PP over time it might make a really good pair with gift sack and nabarta EX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jene-chan View Post
    Seriously? lol

    I don't doubt it but that is pretty crazy. I finally got Elder EX after all this time during the New Years scratch but I feel like I hardly care. With the exception of new EX missions which won't be coming for a little while, I'm just sticking with TDags for now. lol
    I'd definitely agree with the comment that ER is better for general questing, rather than bossing specifically, as the better dodge is more useful, but yea. I tested the following loadout in one of the limited quests: Fire Arms/Ideal Duos/Avenger/Fubuki/FF6+Annette Xmas with 310 ele/arion TD's (as GU because that char has no melee levelled). Against the King Yede (which I don't know if it counts as a "boss" for Ideal Duos effect), my first hit with all chips active was 420k with 3 attack pse. I only managed to get one hit with that because it died basically instantly after it , but from that alone I can calculate that the PA would've done approximately 7.4m damage in total, with a 6* PA. Factoring in that if I had FF8 I could use the same loadout just with the 8*, I estimate that would've been roughly 10m damage. With a yami assist over annette it'd be even greater.

    Pretty absurd for a 6* PA of all things.

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    Does both of these followings e-frame chips stack together in damage or does it just take what has a higher percent in damage:
    1.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%B3%EF%BC%BD

    2.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?H44...3%BC%E3%83%AAT
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  5. #5355

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamondx View Post
    Does both of these followings e-frame chips stack together in damage or does it just take what has a higher percent in damage:
    1.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%B3%EF%BC%BD

    2.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?H44...3%BC%E3%83%AAT
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    All damage within the same frame stacks together but it's additive instead of multiplicative. So Annette and Missouri with be 160% (170% SP) + 180%(200% SP).

  6. #5356

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    what is a good multiplicative chips, please list them, if you dont mind?

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    The way the damage formula works is that everything within the same frame is additive but different frames are multiplied against each other. So it basically works like this:

    A*B*C*D*E (reference: http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%97#ycee76bc)

    Where each frame's default value is 1 + chip buffs. So If you had Annette and Missouri as stated above, the formula would be:

    1*1*1*1*( 1 + 1.6 + 1.8 ) = 4.4

    The frames have the following general categories:

    A frame - generally from weapon intensify chips (http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%BF%80%E5%8C%96). Adds usually 60%/70% A frame damage and a passive HP recovery.
    B frame - from chips that have effects that do damage when fighting specific types of enemies (e.g. natives, machines, darkers) - Christmas Annette is a good example.
    C frame - from chips that do extra damage when an enemy is suffering from a status (e.g. Yamigarasu).
    D frame - from chips that have effects that do damage when fighting an enemy with a specific weak element (e.g. Strike Brute)
    E frame - every other type of damage comes from the E frame. This is the most common damage frame.

    There is other stuff too but short of it is that when some of the B/C/D chips are revived, you can hunt for those cuz they generally can double or triple your damage towards their specific types.

    There is also chase/additional damage (追撃) which is sorta special as it deals a percentage of the final damage of your attack to the boss as additional damage. A bunch of chips have this as a side effect and you can get one which essentially does a little more than double the damage you deal to an enemy randomly from killing SH bosses during Emergency Quests -- Avenger.

    The A frame weapon intensify chips are generally available in exchange shops (e.g. Annette's exchange shop currently) or as rewards from limited quests. They've been giving them out very liberally lately but they are specific to weapon. e.g. you can only use a TMG intensify chip if you're equipped with TMGs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jene-chan View Post
    A frame - generally from weapon intensify chips (http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%BF%80%E5%8C%96). Adds usually 60%/70% A frame damage and a passive HP recovery.
    A frames specifically are effects that boost PA/Technic damage.

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    Is 11*グレンテッセン, 11*クラッカーバレット bad compare to 10*ファセットフォリア? I don't feel like wasting money on Katana and Launcher at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisterPrincess View Post
    Is 11*グレンテッセン, 11*クラッカーバレット bad compare to 10*ファセットフォリア? I don't feel like wasting money on Katana and Launcher at the moment.
    11* PAs aren't exactly better than 10* PAs in general. I don't know for sure but I don't believe anything is as good as FF.

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