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  1. #5051

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrise View Post
    Finally found the Ideal Duos chip, swapped it in to replace the Vivienne chip, liking the results since I'm getting about 43-52m damage on any element type. (Though its much much easier to get to 50m+ if the boss is weak to Wind)



    Not just the damage output but also the amount of money spent or luck required - this player has Facet Folia EX at max. So either s/he had 4 Nyau chips saved up (not likely) s/he would have needed to pull out up to another 4 more chips (or 2 more, if you just buy one with op stars and 1 with gabas tickets).
    That player plays with 12 character, and got alot of star in previous ranking, but doesn't spend alot of real money, and has...933 chip found so far for the seraphy chip
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  2. #5052

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizustar View Post
    Elder rebellion, get a Element resonance or the 12* all element resonance TMG, and get Element TMG booster, that leaves only 1 slot.
    How is that new weaponoid they passed out? would that be ok for last one?
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  3. #5053

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizustar View Post
    That player plays with 12 character, and got alot of star in previous ranking, but doesn't spend alot of real money, and has...933 chip found so far for the seraphy chip
    Lots of stars isn't a factor, because you're limited to one Nyau chip per element per Op star refresh. the only real explanation left after that is just that they have way too many medals to count, or insane luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Emerald EXE View Post
    How is that new weaponoid they passed out? would that be ok for last one?
    Ideal Duos is a weaponoid that you get as a random reward for clearing a Supreme Trigger.
    Last edited by Lyrise; Dec 4, 2016 at 05:19 PM.

  4. #5054

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrise View Post
    Lots of stars isn't a factor, because you're limited to one Nyau chip per element per Op star refresh. the only real explanation left after that is just that they have way too many medals to count, or insane luck.

    Well, there IS the possibility that they got so many stars that they just bought a Nyau of every element at every star refresh without having anything to use them on.

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    I assume Facet FoliaEX is the reason ディヴァルクス is 8mil?

  6. #5056

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    It's not even the EX version that's OP, it's the lower tier ones that are just as much so. I've been hitting 50m with 2 attack pse and an 8* variant vs lightning weak, and 20-30 vs the others with only 150-210 element. I'm using yami+gun salute seraphy+avenger though.

  7. #5057

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheszNuts View Post
    I assume Facet FoliaEX is the reason ディヴァルクス is 8mil?
    Pretty much, but every variant. Even the Rig Daggers which were worth very little prior to the update (8m on ship 2 at the time) shot up in price, 50m each. Gotta have that All class trait, as opposed to being locked down to Fighter.

    FF itself in all its variant is OP, and I would wager the 8* variant is the real OP one, because it costs much much less to equip, allowing you to equip a wider selection of useful chips. (FF2 is 6? CP. Meanwhile, FF3 costs 14, and EX costs 16)

  8. #5058

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrise View Post
    Pretty much, but every variant. Even the Rig Daggers which were worth very little prior to the update (8m on ship 2 at the time) shot up in price, 50m each. Gotta have that All class trait, as opposed to being locked down to Fighter.

    FF itself in all its variant is OP, and I would wager the 8* variant is the real OP one, because it costs much much less to equip, allowing you to equip a wider selection of useful chips. (FF2 is 6? CP. Meanwhile, FF3 costs 14, and EX costs 16)
    As a comparison to this, rig phase (which prior to this week was around 30m each) and sigma phase (which was around 50-80m), have respectively dropped to less than 5m and and 25m. The real appeal of Facet Folia, even if you factor in the detriment of it being a melee pa, are the following points:
    - The PA has an initial homing attack, and a secondary extremely large homing attack for the last hit
    - It has a remarkably large AoE, so even if an enemy moves out of your immediate range, it's still going to be hitting it
    - It comes out faster than Elder Rebellion.
    - Most importantly, it has an insane amount of I-frames.

    The last point in particular is the real key. Lets say the instant you using ER banther goes into his jump swipe animation which causes knockdown if it hits. With ER, you'd have to cancel after only doing roughly 30-50% of your PA's damage. With FF, if the same thing happened (the instant you started using it he'd go for it), you'd probably still be in I-frame duration when the swipe comes out, leaving you dealing damage for the whole duration while dodging an extremely dangerous attack (in the sense of knockdown = large damage loss). It's even more that if you saw him lining up to do it, you could even start it after, because the I-frame window is so large and the only points you can get hit are the initial startup and before the final hit where dodge cancelling is possible.

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    I will say this though, FF still sucks in comparison to ER for doing EX missions.

  10. #5060

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrise View Post
    I will say this though, FF still sucks in comparison to ER for doing EX missions.
    Ex Mission, I actually like to use Gi Grants, high chance to put light status on them, etc.
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