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    Post Quick guide to obtaining the Harukotan 11 star "Saiki" unit set

    Super tired right now, so please correct me if I've made any mistakes.

    Links to the units:
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...83%A8%E3%82%AF
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...82%BD%E3%82%A6
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...83%A7%E3%82%AF

    As you can see, they have fancy stats.

    The most efficient method to obtain them is via Rare Enemy Triggers to summon the rare version of the Harukotan Exploration Quest boss, Gunne Ginnagam.

    It costs 5000 casino coins per Rare Enemy Trigger, at the casino exchange shop.
    Unless you're ridiculously lucky with Rappy Slot, I recommend earning coins by playing Mesetan Shooter (preferably in a group of four players).

    Try to earn a few hundred over 5000, or else you'll have to wait a few days for enough to play Mesetan Shooter again.


    How to Mesetan Shooter:
    Mesetan Shooter machines come in rows of four. To play together, simply make sure the machine you're using is part of the same set.

    Basic mechanics:
    - 100 coins for a Bronze play, 200 for Silver (2x earnings).
    - You'll need to earn at least as much as you paid to play, or you'll be losing coins.
    - Shoot everything except Mr. Umbra.
    - Move left and right to pick up items as the roll down. Prioritize gold coins.
    - 1 Bronze = 1 coin. 1 Silver = 2? coins. 1 Gold = 5 coins. Double that when playing in Silver. Double that with Bowan's 2x boost.
    - Beach balls give random powerups, including damage up, speed up and wider collection range (which can also collect bombs easier, so be careful).
    - Mr. Bowan drops a black/rainbow ball that gives a temporary 2x earnings boost.

    Tips:
    - Play as Bronze until the Burst Gauge is almost or entirely filled, and then switch to Silver.
    - Avoid the bombs at all costs. A single bomb can really hurt your earnings.
    - Don't take risks to pick up stuff near bombs.
    - It's best to just stop firing anywhere near Mr. Umbra, as he can suddenly change direction.
    - Defeat as many as possible, to increase chance of bursts. This is also why having 4 players helps al ot.

    To score big:
    - There's a Burst meter on the right of the screen. It goes up everytime a burst pillar randomly appears after defeating enemy.
    - Once the game says "Burst Chance", the Queen may appear at the start of the next few waves.
    - Once the Queen appears, shoot it constantly while picking up the stuff she drops.
    - When the Queen is defeated, she will drop a silver orb. You MUST collect this.
    - Collecting the silver orb triggers a long, large stream of coins. Usually 500-1000 coins.
    - The Queen can make up for gradual losses, but she doesn't always appear.


    Using the Rare Enemy Trigger:
    Once you've exchanged coins for a Rare Enemy Trigger, start a Super Hard Harukotan Free Exploration Quest from the Quest Counter.
    There's an extra option at the bottom to select a Rare Enemy Trigger.
    I don't know if you can use the trigger on other quests (never tried it).
    It's probably best to just do Harukotan Free Exploration for two chances at the boss.

    You may want to set a password, and block random multi from joining.
    That way, you can have more friends join the same instance as other parties, up to a total of 12 people.

    Upon entering the map, there will be a visible Rare Enemy Trigger icon that everyone in the multiparty can see.
    When the person who used the trigger walks near the icon, the boss will appear.

    Rare Enemy Trigger guarantees maximum drops from the summoned boss.
    In other words, you don't need to kill trash to increase drops.
    Also, players in the multi will receive 10 minutes of +50% Rare Enemy Chance and Rare Drop (I may have these numbers wrong, I forget).


    Fighting the boss:
    - You need to break his feet, the helmet, the horn on his head, and the core in his abdomen area.
    - His feet take 50% damage. I recommend using Weak Bullet on the feet.
    - Once his feet break, he will fall to his knees for a short time. Use this opportunity to attack the head.
    - When he stops to gather power and symbols appear around him, he will use one of his "ice bridge creating" attacks. Climb the ice bridge to attack the head.

    Once the boss is defeated, make sure your tickets and luck increasing equipment are active, and then break the crystal.

    You should then proceed to area 2, as the rare version of the boss may appear again.
    Quickly clear trash on the way.
    Note that the normal version of the boss has much less HP, so it's more difficult to get all of the breaks if you accidentally do too much damage.
    If I recall correctly, the regular version can still drop everything except the 11 star Dual Blades.
    The drop rate for the units from the regular version is just a lot less.

    I think that's about all that needs to be said. Good luck.
    Last edited by TaigaUC; Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaigaUC View Post
    Super tired right now, so please correct me if I've made any mistakes.

    Links to the units:
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...83%A8%E3%82%AF
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...82%BD%E3%82%A6
    http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3%8...83%A7%E3%82%AF

    As you can see, they have fancy stats.

    The most efficient method to obtain them is via Rare Enemy Triggers to summon the rare version of the Harukotan Exploration Quest boss, Gunne Ginnagam.

    It costs 5000 casino coins per Rare Enemy Trigger, at the casino exchange shop.
    Unless you're ridiculously lucky with Rappy Slot, I recommend earning coins by playing Mesetan Shooter (preferably in a group of four players).

    Try to earn a few hundred over 5000, or else you'll have to wait a few days for enough to play Mesetan Shooter again.


    How to Mesetan Shooter:
    Mesetan Shooter machines come in rows of four. To play together, simply make sure the machine you're using is part of the same set.

    Basic mechanics:
    - 100 coins for a Bronze play, 200 for Silver (2x earnings).
    - You'll need to earn at least as much as you paid to play, or you'll be losing coins.
    - Shoot everything except Mr. Umbra.
    - Move left and right to pick up items as the roll down. Prioritize gold coins.
    - 1 Bronze = 1 coin. 1 Silver = 2? coins. 1 Gold = 5 coins. Double that when playing in Silver. Double that with Bowan's 2x boost.
    - Beach balls give random powerups, including damage up, speed up and wider collection range (which can also collect bombs easier, so be careful).
    - Mr. Bowan drops a black/rainbow ball that gives a temporary 2x earnings boost.

    Tips:
    - Play as Bronze until the Burst Gauge is almost or entirely filled, and then switch to Silver.
    - Avoid the bombs at all costs. A single bomb can really hurt your earnings.
    - Don't take risks to pick up stuff near bombs.
    - It's best to just stop firing anywhere near Mr. Umbra, as he can suddenly change direction.
    - Defeat as many as possible, to increase chance of bursts. This is also why having 4 players helps al ot.

    To score big:
    - There's a Burst meter on the right of the screen. It goes up everytime a burst pillar randomly appears after defeating enemy.
    - Once the game says "Burst Chance", the Queen may appear at the start of the next few waves.
    - Once the Queen appears, shoot it constantly while picking up the stuff she drops.
    - When the Queen is defeated, she will drop a silver orb. You MUST collect this.
    - Collecting the silver orb triggers a long, large stream of coins. Usually 500-1000 coins.
    - The Queen can make up for gradual losses, but she doesn't always appear.


    Using the Rare Enemy Trigger:
    Once you've exchanged coins for a Rare Enemy Trigger, start a Super Hard Harukotan Free Exploration Quest from the Quest Counter.
    There's an extra option at the bottom to select a Rare Enemy Trigger.
    I don't know if you can use the trigger on other quests (never tried it).
    It's probably best to just do Harukotan Free Exploration for two chances at the boss.

    You may want to set a password, and block random multi from joining.
    That way, you can have more friends join the same instance as other parties, up to a total of 12 people.

    Upon entering the map, there will be a visible Rare Enemy Trigger icon that everyone in the multiparty can see.
    When the person who used the trigger walks near the icon, the boss will appear.

    Rare Enemy Trigger guarantees maximum drops from the summoned boss.
    In other words, you don't need to kill trash to increase drops.
    Also, players in the multi will receive 10 minutes of +50% Rare Enemy Chance and Rare Drop (I may have these numbers wrong, I forget).


    Fighting the boss:
    - You need to break his feet, the helmet, the horn on his head, and the core in his abdomen area.
    - His feet take 50% damage. I recommend using Weak Bullet on the feet.
    - Once his feet break, he will fall to his knees for a short time. Use this opportunity to attack the head.
    - When he stops to gather power and symbols appear around him, he will use one of his "ice bridge creating" attacks. Climb the ice bridge to attack the head.

    Once the boss is defeated, make sure your tickets and luck increasing equipment are active, and then break the crystal.

    You should then proceed to area 2, as the rare version of the boss may appear again.
    Quickly clear trash on the way.
    Note that the normal version of the boss has much less HP, so it's more difficult to get all of the breaks if you accidentally do too much damage.
    If I recall correctly, the regular version can still drop everything except the 11 star Dual Blades.
    The drop rate for the units from the regular version is just a lot less.

    I think that's about all that needs to be said. Good luck.
    +1.. Nice Post.
    Can't we all just get along?

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    Queen... you mean Mesetan?

    Well I guess they're all Mesetan, but the one on the field has a crown
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    Not really the most efficient way. If you're in a party of 2 or more, have one person run to see if it's rare while everyone else stays on ship and then reset if it isn't. If it is, runner stays in boss room and stalls until everyone S Ranks, then when everyone else enters, dirs and returns to campship then S Ranks too.

    Got my units this way.

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    Considering the rare trigger spawns a mutated boss, I would say it is. I got a ridiculous amount of rares from the mutated rare variants, but not many at all from regular rare ones.

    Edit: I'll add one thing though, it's only the most efficient if you have a group of friends all willing to pitch in and share an MPA with triggers from everyone. 12 people with 12 triggers will net you a very large # of dice rolls for the units. However, if you don't have access to something like this, then yes rare boss spam with runners is definitely better.
    Last edited by milranduil; Sep 10, 2014 at 07:20 AM.

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    Thanks for the posts, everyone.

    Just gonna note here that this boss spawns in the new EQ as well.
    In the four runs I've done, he always shows up around the same time.
    So that means one per EQ (one every fifteen minutes or so).
    Saw the rare version once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arksenth View Post
    Not really the most efficient way. If you're in a party of 2 or more, have one person run to see if it's rare while everyone else stays on ship and then reset if it isn't. If it is, runner stays in boss room and stalls until everyone S Ranks, then when everyone else enters, dirs and returns to campship then S Ranks too.

    Got my units this way.
    Sorry about the dumb question but why S rank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perplx View Post
    Sorry about the dumb question but why S rank?
    S-ranking is done by accruing enough monster kill points.

    Those same monster kill points are also counted towards a bonus to core drops from boss crystals - that is, any drop not tied to a breakable part.

    You can die repeatedly to lose s rank and keep the bonus drop counter, but people just refer to it as sranking anyway because it's easier and doesn't need explaining most of the time.

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    When I tried to translate the swiki's article on drop rates, I remember it saying that the S-rank monster kill points are separate from bonus to boss crystal drops, and to aim for more than S-rank to be safe.

    That was a long time ago, and I haven't checked if that information was updated.
    But yeah, "S-ranking" is a good reference point.

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    ^ this is true. I did rather extensive tests when hunting susano in free floating continent regarding the number of drops with all parts broken. There were times where I felt like I didn't kill enough, still got 100% on quest clear, but got less drops which is likely supportive of the fact that the point counter is different from the necessary points for s-ranking a quest.

    tl;dr yes they are separate, but the ballpark is the same.

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