How to Dark Falz Elder+Loser (XH Loser = Arm -> Shoulder -> WAIT -> Arm -> Shoulder)

[WEED420BLAZEIT]

that feel when fighting luther without WB

[LonelyGaruga]

12. If he hides his clock, destroy the mosaic patterns around his hood. This removes the shield on the chin core.

Throat core's protection is removed by breaking both shoulders and the beak.

Everything else looks 100% though. Would prioritize Elder's arms regardless of MPA composition because they take x2 damage as opposed to whatever Elder's chest core is (pretty sure it's like x1.2), but no other comments.

Although I'm pretty sure using wind techs on anything besides the clock won't trigger Mirage, but should be using Ragrants anyway.

[TaigaUC]

Really? Weird, I thought I tried the chin core a ton of times and it was always invulnerable.
Only seen it vulnerable twice after the hood stuff was shattered, so I figured it was that.
Sorry, will fix it up in a bit.

Thanks for the Elder detail too.

[CoWorker]

Blue backdrop, or ~50% health:
After the first time stop, the backdrop usually changes to blue.
He will often then move into the center, and rotate two blades around the map.
Players will then have to run ahead of the blades while avoiding mini red cyclones.

- You can dodge through the blades or use invulnerability to go through them.
- It's possible for Twin Dagger and Dual Blade users to stay above the blades and keep attacking him throughout the entire rotation.

i would like to add a tip on that part, theres actually a safe spot where you can run and no get hit by the small cyclones

see that chart? the blue line is the safe spot, just run towards Loser and you can avoid the blades easily due to the short amount of distance to walk on to (just slow down or run fast ahead so u dont get hit by the blade), and surprisingly cyclones dont spawn much there, and after its done you can whack its core quicky after its done rotating

[ZynischQ]

Throat core's protection is removed by breaking both shoulders and the beak.

Everything else looks 100% though. Would prioritize Elder's arms regardless of MPA composition because they take x2 damage as opposed to whatever Elder's chest core is (pretty sure it's like x1.2), but no other comments.

Although I'm pretty sure using wind techs on anything besides the clock won't trigger Mirage, but should be using Ragrants anyway.

Breaking shoulders and beak exposes chin core momentarily.

When he's in half-submerged mode, breaking EVERYTHING (beak, gems, not sure about armsand shoulders but I'd assume so) exposes his chin core permanently.

Though your mpa would have to have really low dps for him to get to the point where he's submerged with everything broken and not dead yet.

[Chdata]

There's more to Elder than you think, specifically for FO.

FO should aim to shock Elder with sazonde or zondeel or etc during his first phase after most of the arms are destroyed - before he loses enough arms to go in the background and throw comets at us.

This allows the upper arms to be broken in the first phase.

After that, keep trying to shock him. It prevents him from attacking aside from making him vulnerable.

You can break the northern arms when he does his butt smash.

[LonelyGaruga]

Breaking shoulders and beak exposes chin core momentarily.

When he's in half-submerged mode, breaking EVERYTHING (beak, gems, not sure about armsand shoulders but I'd assume so) exposes his chin core permanently.

Had an MPA where the throat core was exposed with only shoulders and beak broken, so no. Breaking gems simply removes elemental after-effects of attacks.

Obviously breaking them each time exposes it momentarily, but after all are broken it's permanently a weak point.

[Chdata]

The secret to dodging time freeze from Luther:

The 4 swords have a tell. The tell is a JA circle. JA that circle with a dodge-action like mirage escape or dash.

That's all you have to do to not get time stopped.

When he does the double time stop in XH, just make sure you pay attention to the second set of blades so you can JA that one too.

[Memo]

The secret to dodging time freeze from Luther:

The 4 swords have a tell. The tell is a JA circle. JA that circle with a dodge-action like mirage escape or dash.

That's all you have to do to not get time stopped.

When he does the double time stop in XH, just make sure you pay attention to the second set of blades so you can JA that one too.

Wow didn't know that!, thank you very much for sharing!

[TaigaUC]

Had the weirdest Loser earlier.
Did it with a friend's organized group.
Elder was the usual business.

For Loser, we broke the arms and shoulders as per usual.
Then, he teleported straight into the first time stop daggers, instead of red phase taunt.
When he came back, we miraged him and broke the clock.
Then he started to teleport away, presumably for time stop 2, but miraged himself and reappeared in front of us.
So, we beat the crap out of him there, and he just died. No time stop 2.
Never seen him die so fast.