How to win at Casino games: Black Nyack, Mesetan Shooter, Rappy Slot & Lili Roulette
Pasting this from an old post I wrote. Added a few things here and there.
Edit: Added more tips from posts below. Thanks!
Why play Casino?:
- You can use Casino Coins to buy "endgame" exchange items, such as Ultimate Quest stones, Lambda Grinders (for upgrading 13 stars), etc.
- You can exchange for Casino-exclusive items, such as rare boss triggers, Casino-themed weapon camos, Lilipa/Nyau suits.
- There are some Casino Client Orders that give various rewards.
Which game should I play?:
- Black Nyack is the easiest, but requires a little thinking. You can also play it while doing other things, and leave at any time. Can be played alone or with others.
- Mesetan Shooter requires playing for a long time to regain initial losses, and it's recommended to play with others.
- Rappy Slot is kind of mindless, and can take insane amounts of time for gain. Not sure how good it is now, as it was recently buffed.
- Roulette can yield massive reward, but is not reliable unless you successfully see a pattern. There's also tons of time to do other things while playing Roulette. You can play Black Nyack at the same time.
Black Nyack:
Spoiler!
How it works:
- Each person is drawn two cards. Only the first card is visible to other players, until totals are revealed.
- The goal is is to beat the Dealer (Nyau)'s card total without Busting (ie. going over 21).
- "Hit" means to draw another card. You can draw up to 5 cards. "Stay" means to stay with the cards you currently have.
- "Double Down" means to double your bet and receive only one more card. You cannot "Hit" after a "Double Down".
- The Dealer is required to Hit if his hand is 16 or under, making the Dealer have a high chance of Busting.
- Joker, Queen and King are all equal to 10. Ace can be either 1 or 11, and will automatically change depending on following cards.
- If you reach 21, you will automatically Stay.
- The only thing that can beat a 21 is drawing 5 cards without Busting.
- Playing in a group allows for Battle Bonyas, where the winner of that round receives a large coin victory bonus.
- Battle Bonyas is random, but chance increases with more players.
How SP cards work:
- SP cards start with a value of 0.
- Total SP card value is denoted in the upper right of the screen.
- Every time someone receives an SP card, a di will be rolled when it is that person's turn. This only happens on the turn the SP card is drawn (ie. not on every turn).
- This di will add to the total SP card value, eg. if SP = 0, and someone rolls 2, all player's SP cards will become 2. If someone rolls SP = 3 after that, all SP cards will become 5 (ie. 2+3 = 5).
- If you have three SP cards, and you roll 0, 2 and 3 for each, all three cards will become worth 5 each = a total of 15.
- You can imagine this becomes extremely risky if you have 3 SP cards and happen to roll large numbers on all three.
- However, SP card dice often roll low numbers such as 0 or 1. High numbers seem rare.
Scoring:
- As long as you don't Bust and have a total card value higher than the Dealer's, you will win. Your bet will be returned, and you gain the value you betted (effectively x2 your bet).
- If you Bust or have a lower total card value than the Dealer's, you lose, ie. you lose the amount you betted.
- Having a total of 21 is a Black Nyack, and rewards x3 your bet.
- Winning with 5 cards rewards x5 your bet, and is the only hand that can beat a Black Nyack.
- Winning with one SP card gives x1 the amount of your bet (ie. 50 coin bet = +50 coin bonus for 1 SP card). 2 SP cards = x3 your bet. Three SP cards is x50 your bet.
- Winning a round affected by Battle Bonyas rewards x6 your bet. This value increases to x8 during Black Nyack boost events.
- Double Down doubles your total wins, meaning if your total reward is 700 coins, Double Down will make that 1400 coins.
Tips:
- You will inevitably lose some games. You'll want to gain as much as possible while losing as little as possible.
- As long as you don't Bust, even if your cards suck, there's a chance you will either draw equal or win by Nyau suicide.
- Because Jokers, Kings, Queens and Tens are all equal to 10, and there are 4 of each, there is generally a high chance of drawing 10.
- SP cards tend to be low values (0~2) but every SP roll adds to all SP card values. Don't take risks with SP cards if many other players/Nyau have SP cards too.
- Card counting works to a slight extent in Black Nyack. If you're dealt high cards (especially 10s) consecutively, try to wait it out.
- After a certain point, the card values will start dropping and you'll have a higher chance of getting low Hits.
- Conversely, if you get a lot of low cards to begin with, expect to be dealt a lot of high cards later on.
- If you manage to win whilst having 3 SP cards, you'll get a large reward and Deal will announce your victory.
- There's a much higher chance of getting SP cards when playing with many people, because more cards will be dealt.
Nyau's behavior:
- If Nyau's first cards include Ace, or equal 10, there's a high chance he will get 20-21 or 5 cards.
- Nyau tends to kill himself. For this reason, it's a good idea to Stay if you think you might Bust.
- Chance of Nyau suiciding goes up if someone has a better total than him (he will take a risk to win). This is a good incentive to play with others.
- If Nyau looks like he has low value cards, he will likely get 5 cards. The only counter to that is getting 5 cards as well.
- If Nyau keeps drawing 5 cards or Black Nyack, or keeps dealing you 12-15 over and over, try another table.
Things to do:
- In general, if it looks like you might go over 21, Stay.
- If your first cards are very low numbers, try to aim for 5 cards.
- If your first cards are 12 to 17, drawing is probably a 50/50 chance that you'll either Bust or get closer to 21, so you may want to just Stay and hope Nyau Busts.
- If your first cards = 10 or 11, you may want to try Doubling Down, because there's a good chance you will get 20-21 and win. However, do not do this if Nyau has a 10, an Ace, or a very low value card.
- It's fine to play at maximum bet if you can afford it. I always play at maximum bet.
Things not to do:
- Don't Double Down if it looks like Nyau is going to win (ie. his starting card is a 10, an Ace, or a very low value card).
- Don't Hit if you're at 17 or above. High chance of Busting. If you want to be extra safe, don't Hit if you're at 15 or above.
- Don't Double Down if you have less than 10 or so.
- Don't Hit if you're at a high total value with an SP card, and other players have have SP cards. You'll run the risk of Busting via SP card value increase.
When you should take risks and try your luck:
- If you're very sure Nyau will beat you, you may as well try your luck.
- If you have a high chance of getting 5 cards without going Bust, or winning Battle Bonyas, etc.
- If Nyau has a card that's anywhere between 4 and 7, you can probably take a risk and Stay even with 12~16.
- If you've already made a good enough profit (250~500 CC), there's no real harm in taking bigger risks.
- If you're willing to take risks, if you've a starting hand of 12~16, you might as well Hit, as you may hit 21. Alternatively, if you have 4 cards but you're above 15, try Hitting anyway.
Electrolytes' strategy:
Originally Posted by electrolytes
Here's a generic black jack strategy that I used to gain 30k CC during the first week the game was out, for those that want something cookie-cutter guaranteed to profit in the long term. "Hard" is for when your hand has no aces; "Soft" is for when it does.
Spoiler!
Of course, Black Nyack is a slightly different game, so following this completely would probably be sub-optimal. A couple key differences:
- Special cards are usually low, meaning the average card is a lower value than a standard deck, meaning busting out probabilities are a little lower than shown.
- You can win big with five cards, three specials, or Battle Bonyas, which can justify taking a risk you wouldn't in normal blackjack.
A couple things which remain the same:
- Never double if your total is above 11 and you have no aces. You will be throwing your CC away in the long term.
- Take note that there is a dramatic difference in how to react when Nyau's upcard is below 7 (where he is likely to bust out), versus at 7 and above (where you need to reach 17+).
Mesetan Shooter:
Spoiler!
How it works:
- You shoot Mesetans of various types, and then pick up the coins they drop.
- Each wave will be either Bronze, Silver, Gold or Wildcard. During a Burst, all waves will be Gold.
- The type of wave denotes the kind of enemies that appear, and the worth of the coins they drop.
- Enemies have a random chance to contribute PSE towards Burst on death.
- If no PSE occurs over an extended period of time, the Burst gauge will lose a gauge stock.
- During Burst, a Queen has a chance to appear. Defeating the Queen causes her to drop an item that, when picked up, spawns a huge flood of coins.
- Shooting Nyau will yield various buffs that make things much, much easier.
- Shooting Umbra will cause him to drop bombs that inflict huge penalties if touched. On the other hand, not shooting Umbra will cause him to drop goodies.
- Shooting Mr.Bowan will give you a temporary x2 boost. I personal feel this isn't worth taking risks for, ie. isn't a high priority.
Primary goal:
- You have to play for a long time to regain initial losses.
- It's important to kill more enemies than trying to collect individual coins. Small temporary loss in exchange for eventual large gains.
- The most money you gain back is from Bursts. This is the primary goal of Mesetan Shooter.
- You can still break even or gain slight profit even if a Queen never appears, as long as you're careful.
Tips:
- Your catcher is slow (unless you have the speed up buff) so you need to act in advance to catch good balls or avoid bombs. As above, prioritize getting Nyau balls, and Mr Bowan for double points.
- You won't be able to catch all balls - this is fact. Trying to chase after bronze or silvers that are far away will make you lose on better prizes that are near you.
- HOWEVER just because you can't reach a Mesetan doesn't mean you shouldn't shoot it.
- Bronze, silver and golden Mesetans all take the same amount of hits to take down. If you can shoot at a gold or a bronze, there is no incentive to fire at the latter.
- Playing with others can make it easier to get a Burst more quickly, but they have to not make mistakes.
- If playing with two players, have one player on the left and the other on the right.
- You move slightly faster if you stop shooting. If there's few targets you can take out easily before they run, you can stop shooting for a little, to grab any straggling coins.
Things to do:
- Avoid bombs at all costs. Bomb penalty is much higher than any gain.
- Make sure all Nyaus are swifly shot and their powerups picked up.
- Play at Bronze until you see gold waves and it looks like you'll Burst, then play at Silver
Things not to do:
- Don't shoot Umbra, as he will drop bombs that screw everyone over.
- If you don't have the power up buff, don't fire at the King Mesetan unless there are no other good targets.
Rappy Slot:
Spoiler!
I haven't played Rappy Slot in about a year, so I've probably gotten some stuff wrong.
Primary goal:
- You have to play for a long time to regain initial losses, unless you are insanely lucky.
- The most money you gain back is from Bursts. This is the primary goal of Rappy Slot.
How it works:
- All you can do is change your bet. However, you can't change your bet once Burst Chance has begun.
- As you play Rappy Slot, you will accumulate Rappy Coins whenever you get a row of Gold Rappies.
- Once the Rappy Coin gauge is full, you will enter Burst Chance.
- During Burst Chance, you must successfully time the slot to hit the Wildcard, or else it will fail and you need to get another Rappy Coin.
- During Burst, any Wildcards you get will stay onscreen until Burst ends.
- If you manage to get 9 Wildcards, you will win big.
Tips:
- Best to play at low bet until you're about to hit Burst Chance, and then you may want to raise your bet.
- Depending on your luck, Rappy Slot can be insanely time consuming. You can play for a long time without getting anything.
- Machines will have partially-filled Rappy Coin gauges. You should check slot machines for a machine that's about to hit Burst chance.
- If you're not winning at all, try changing machines or blocks. Some machines have a high Burst rate, which should be listed on the machine itself.
Some helpful info from takaizu91:
About rappy slot, it hasn't changed much since the day it was being introduced. The only notable difference now is higher chance to hit burst.
Unlike other casino games, rappy slot depends on your RNG, rather than betting skills so if you can't win much, you're probably out of luck. Best if you want to test your luck, do it with the drink machine instead.
Honestly, no machine can guaranteed a burst since it heavily relies on your luck but you have higher chance to get one with machine that have more than 2~3 rappy coin and trigger burst chance more often. Chance to get a line or two depends on the rappy to your right. It will popping out (?) or (!) if you may get a line. (!) has greater chance to get a line and possibly trigger rappy animation whenever you miss a roll to get a line.
If your machine has 3 or 4 rappy coins, start betting at max (5cc) to maximize your gain when you get burst chance. Once you get 5 rappy coins, you get a chance to enter burst chance mode by getting rainbow rappy (or whichever it may call). This is the only time that relies on your quick tap on your keyboard so if you miss it, then you're slow. Quickly press Enter when you see a circle popping up.
In rappy chance mode, you get 5 turns to get a rainbow rappy line to trigger burst so act wisely, you don't need to rush the turn so take your time. Chance to get a line or more is greater in this mode. Nothing obvious here.
If you managed to get a line of rainbow rappy, congratulations. In this mode, your cc definitely gain so much out of this mode. You have 5 turns in this mode as well so make it count. Best thing in this mode is whenever you get rainbow rappy in any slot, it will stick there until the burst ends so getting line combo is so much easier. Not only you gain a lot of cc in burst, you also have a chance to get jackpot by getting all rainbow rappy in all slot which returns you up to 500k cc (check the jackpot to see the total amount of cc you can win).
One thing that I'm still clueless about rappy slot is the rappy type in the machine. Probably depends on season, certain rappy give higher chance to get burst but I still can't confirm this. Hope this helps, do correct me if I'm wrong.
Lili Roulette:
Spoiler!
I've yet to grasp how to win at Roulette.
Please feel free to contribute any useful information. Thanks.
In the meantime, here's Gankfest's tips:
Roulette is sexy, but this isn't real roulette. As Lili runs off a pattern program; rather than random. I hit 50 roughly week ago, and hit the Casino... Been stuck in it since, and been slaving away at the roulette/Blackjack table. I started with 2k coins, and currently I'm up 12k. After 30+ hours on Roulette I've probably had 20k by now go though my hands...
When it comes Lili Roulette your goal is to win big, and expect to lose big. Personally I play for the fun aspect, and really don't care so much about getting the items. Lili Roulette takes a lot of thinking and pattern memorization to be effective. If you want easy mindless wins for loot, blackjack is the way to go. I can win way more at blackjack than I could at roulette, but blackjack doesn't make my butt hole pucker to a decimal when I win. :P
With the being said, this how I play Roulette...
When I enter a channel and hit the Casino, say b-10. I look at the roulette patterns, and see if there is currently a pattern going on. A pattern for example looks something like this {G4,G4,B5,R1,G5,G2,B1,R4,R4,G1}. I look for when a win has happened twice in a row ex.(G4,G4), and see how far into the pattern it's in. If there is a pattern that just started I start betting on the trend of the pattern. There is no science in this that will guarantee wins, but you can up your chances by understanding the trend that is happening and playing with it. If there is no pattern, and a lot of sporadic numbers. Then I switch channels, and start checking the pattern on that board. I also switch channels if triple or double spins have been played recently, regardless of the pattern. Every roulette game is different throughout the channels.
I Never bet on colors as it's only 3x, and that's crap... I mainly bet on a color number(Green 3 @ 100cc), and a number(Grey 5 @ 50cc). Depending on the pattern, rarely I play two color numbers. Playing 2 color numbers is something you gotta feel out for yourself, and either want to run 50/50cc or 100/100cc split. Always bet big, playing 50cc on grey numbers isn't big, but if I hit it, I win my money back plus some change. Hitting a color number with 100cc is 1500cc payout. Betting anything else is useless, and not even worth it. Either go big, or go home. If you aren't willing to risk roughly 5k, then play blackjack.
Anytime I win at Roulette, I hit blackjack. I'm pretty sure the pattern breaks when a win occurs, but not 100% on that yet. I play blackjack until I start getting crap cards, and check the roulette table again. If there is a pattern and a purple loss(2 purple icons next to the gold one.) has been played. I'll play a game, but if there is no purple loss that has been played, I switch channels.
Hope that helps...
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