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    Default I'm a Tank with Questions!

    Hi folks!

    I'm currently Endgame as a 75/75 Sword and (accessory) Board Hu/Te And I'm having too much helpin' out with buffs, heals, and aggro grabbing everything in UQ, though I only have 1.2k Health. I feel I definitely l need WAY more than that, hopefully breaking at least 2k -2.5k (If it's possible), but I don't know how.
    Learning ever so slowly and frustratingly, I cannot seem to really affix/add abilities to things... extremely hard to understand, even with detailed guides.

    Here are my Stats so far:
    HP: 1201
    PP: 122
    S-Atk: 2027
    S-Def: 1788
    R-Def: 1499
    T-Def: 1475

    Mag:
    S-Def: 100
    R-Def: 50
    T-Def: 50

    My gear that I Rock (And did not Affix at all):
    - *12 Chainsawd +10 = Vampiric Blade lv. 3, Stamina IV, Mutation I, Lucky Rise I, Freeze IV
    - *11 Fahren Pulse +10 - Ex.10 (Tech) = Stamina III , Power III , Blow Resist II
    - *11 Fahren Fahren +10 - Ex. 10 (Tech) = Stamina I , Power III , Shot Resist III , Blow Resist I
    - *11 Fahren Paris +10 - Ex. 10 (Tech) = Stamina III , Power III , Blow Resist II

    So My question is, since affixing is maybe how folks beef up. . . What would abilities do I have to strive for in each of my gear to net me the highest HP, some decent S-Attk, and Some Def or PP?
    Last edited by Gentle Giant Vexx; Jan 21, 2017 at 07:55 PM.

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    I'm gonna be a prophet and predict: this thread will soon be flood with "Tank is unnecessary/trash" and/or "HU/TE is trash" posts.

    I'll start first.
    TE/HU will tank better than you do while having better support AND damage. No amount of gears can fix the problem with trashy class combination of choice in the first place.
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    I have so many questions... But I guess I'll start with, why Hu/Te and not Te/Hu or Hu/Su? Even assuming going that ham with being tanky was worth it, both of those outshine Hu/Te in tankyness.

    EDIT: Oh, I forgot the most important question.



    Like I really need to know what your intention is because you've gone WELL beyond the point of diminishing returns for being tanky.

    EDIT: To put it another way I can't help you if I don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
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    I alternate. With this *12 Chainsawd, I have to go Hu/Te. Otherwise I'd go *10 Elder Pain with Te/Hu When I get it to max and have it with Techer class added.

    I like tanking here because keeping bosses under control and facing me is what I like to do, so everyone else can beat it down while i'm supporting as well. Less folks get hurt, and more damage on the boss!

    Also, I said my question in the beginning. What abilities and/or how do I grab them for my current armor sets that would net me high HP, S-Attk, and maybe Def or PP?
    Last edited by Gentle Giant Vexx; Jan 21, 2017 at 08:29 PM.

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    Actually new tank meta....is HU/SU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGE71ZMzWF4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEo_T22Yhw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkco3AcxEEc

    I guess have crafted a sacrifice bit that should help you with attack if you dont have that yet.
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    Here are some affixes you can consider for what you want to do.

    Soul: Deadleon Soul gives +35 S-Atk and 30 HP. Alternatively, Double Soul gives 40 HP and 3 PP.

    XQ Ability: Alter Arma gives +20 S-Atk and 30 HP.

    Boost: Noble Stamina gives +50 HP and +3 PP.

    Other affixes to consider: Stamina III or IV(duh), Power III or IV, Lovey Fever, and Mutation II.

    A relatively simple and cheap combination of the above would be Double Soul/Power IV/Stamina IV/Mutation II.

    All that said, I don't really recommend this, but I'm not gonna micromanage your game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle Giant Vexx View Post
    I alternate. With this *12 Chainsawd, I have to go Hu/Te. Otherwise I'd go *10 Elder Pain with Te/Hu When I get around to crafting it to max and have it with Techer class added.
    ...Te/Hu uses wands. Why do you even need a chainsawd or elder pain when you have megiverse? If you're that intent on using a sword do Hu/Su. Te gives you nothing of value as a sub.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle Giant Vexx View Post
    I like tanking here because keeping bosses under control and facing me is what I like to do, so everyone else can beat it down while i'm supporting as well. Less folks get hurt, and more damage on the boss!
    My point is that you don't need to go that deep into tanky gear for that, you have a guard, and if you go Te or sub Su you have megiverse and resta. The only time going that heavy into it makes a difference is wipe mechanics, but by that point you're giving up so much damage against bosses that don't even have agro mechanics that it doesn't matter, for anything else you'd be fine running a normal damage build with hp affixes, if even that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle Giant Vexx View Post
    Also, I said my question in the beginning. What abilities and/or how do I grab them for my current armor sets that would net me high HP, S-Attk, and maybe Def or PP?
    I'm not asking what your question is, I'm asking why you want to go tanky. I can survive literally anything that isn't a wipe mechanic simply by changing my units and using the Guts Drink. If you're tryign to see how absolutely tanky you can possibly be for shits and giggles, that's fine. I can help with that, but if you think this is actually going to be useful for anything other than gimmick videos, spoiler, it's not.

    These are my hp units.
    https://puu.sh/tv4Fr/9f95f41269.jpg
    https://puu.sh/tv4Gf/6693c93069.jpg
    http://puu.sh/tv4Hr/98d593dd8b.jpg

    The arm unit doesn't matter, i just crafted it for more hp. The back and leg units give 150hp each, not including affixes. This set gets me to 1352 hp as a Te/Hu without anything like hp ups. I go up to 2066 with the guts drink and deband toughness. This alone is overkill for anything that isn't a wipe mechanic.
    Last edited by Kondibon; Jan 21, 2017 at 08:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starwind75043 View Post
    Actually new tank meta....is HU/SU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGE71ZMzWF4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEo_T22Yhw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkco3AcxEEc

    I guess have crafted a sacrifice bit that should help you with attack if you dont have that yet.
    I have Sacrifice Bite crafted thankfully! But That very first video is basically what I do, but I don't have that amount of HP! I'm more than glad to hear that it IS possible! But geez, these vids are hyped! And thankfully Summoner is the last class I have to 75. Thanks for showing that it's possible! <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaeris View Post
    Here are some affixes you can consider for what you want to do.

    Soul: Deadleon Soul gives +35 S-Atk and 30 HP. Alternatively, Double Soul gives 40 HP and 3 PP.

    XQ Ability: Alter Arma gives +20 S-Atk and 30 HP.

    Boost: Noble Stamina gives +50 HP and +3 PP.

    Other affixes to consider: Stamina III or IV(duh), Power III or IV, Lovey Fever, and Mutation II.

    A relatively simple and cheap combination of the above would be Double Soul/Power IV/Stamina IV/Mutation II.

    All that said, I don't really recommend this, but I'm not gonna micromanage your game.
    Thank you so much! Though how does one actually obtain and merge souls, is it the same as regularly adding? Cause Ikept hearing about modulators and.. virdiculum or something of that.
    Also do the Boosts and XQ abilities fall under the same category?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kondibon View Post
    ...Te/Hu uses wands. Why do you even need a chainsawd or elder pain when you have megiverse? If you're that intent on using a sword do Hu/Su. Te gives you nothing of value as a sub.
    My point is that you don't need to go that deep into tanky gear for that, you have a guard, and if you go Te or sub Su you have megiverse and resta. The only time going that heavy into it makes a difference is wipe mechanics, but by that point you're giving up so much damage against bosses that don't even have agro mechanics that it doesn't matter, for anything else you'd be fine running a normal damage build with hp affixes, if even that.

    I'm not asking what your question is, I'm asking why you want to go tanky. I can survive literally anything that isn't a wipe mechanic simply by changing my units and using the Guts Drink. If you're tryign to see how absolutely tanky you can possibly be for shits and giggles, that's fine. I can help with that, but if you think this is actually going to be useful for anything other than gimmick videos, spoiler, it's not.

    These are my hp units.
    https://puu.sh/tv4Fr/9f95f41269.jpg
    https://puu.sh/tv4Gf/6693c93069.jpg
    http://puu.sh/tv4Hr/98d593dd8b.jpg

    The arm unit doesn't matter, i just crafted it for more hp. The back and leg units give 150hp each, not including affixes. This set gets me to 1352 hp as a Te/Hu without anything like hp ups. I go up to 2066 with the guts drink and deband toughness. This alone is overkill for anything that isn't a wipe mechanic.
    Well, I mean. All I can say is, "I love doin' it, dude." Not much else to explain. I'm havin' fun with it, it's useful, everyone else has crazy amounts of damage, I'm just makin' sure no one falls and passively healing with my Heal share ring and Chainsawd or Elder Pain. Wands are meh to me, i still use 'em, but only for the darker bosses in EQs for damage and such. But my tanking stuff still applies.
    Last edited by Gentle Giant Vexx; Jan 21, 2017 at 09:23 PM.

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