Hero Class Discussion

[Kril]

Current weapon Meta as of 10/30/17: Sword>Talis>TMG
Update 1 ( 1/23/18 ): weapon Meta is still the same
Update 2 ( 7/5/18 ) :weapon Meta is still literally the same, nothings really changed
Update 3 ( 1/22/19 ): what do you know? the weapon meta hasn't changed! I added an example skill tree to the bottom for those who need a base start.
Update 4 ( 4/24/19 ): still the same but with some PA buffs with the release of Episode 6 below:

Spoiler!

Hero Sword

Rising Slash
Power Increased
Adjusted Power Distribution
Flash Trick
Improved the power of switch attacks
Vapor Bullet
Improved the power of switch attacks

Hero Twin Machineguns

Final Storm
Attack Range extended
Added Guard Frames in all directions when activated.
Second Edge
Can now turn when in use.
Added Invincibility Frames on activation
Improved the power of switch attacks
Moment Trick
Power Increased
Improved the power of switch attacks

Hero Talis

Normal Attack / Step Attack
Can now move during the Attack (similar to how Bullet Bow works)
Weapon Action
Can now move after the Warp
Hero Counter (Talis)
Power Increased
Jet Wheel
Suction Range extended
Can now move during the Activation
Wise Hound
Power Increased
Dive Bullet
Improved power of switch attacks
Racer Edge
Improved power of switch attacks

Your Sword rotations will be slightly different:

-Rising Slash->1 slash in air ->slam x2 then 3rd Normal

-Rising Slash->Hold key for slashing (DPS does drop off over continuous use)

-Vapor Bullet x2 -> 3rd normal

Talis

Racer Edge x2 -> 3rd Normal


Update 5 ( 8/21/19 ): Hero Boost Relief

Reduced the amount of Hero Boost Power loss by 30% upon taking a certain amount of damage in a short time.

Hero Counter

Added an effect to regain Power of Hero Boost by 10% upon activation of Hero Counter!

A wonderful buff that finally showed up to help fix those annoying resets, you can be a bit more reckless with your play now but you need to make sure you upkeep with counters or risk restarting your HB from 1% buildup (1% dmg per sec). Aside that buff, nothings changed with the weapon Meta.


------------------------------------ some info below will change in the future

Updated DPS check via youtube since the Twitter posts I put no longer exist because the guys account doesn't exist, I'm sure theres better vids out there:

Sword
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9pI_B6WJFU

Talis
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIKD5oUpEWg

TMG
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijwdB9um3S8
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK2R5kaX24U
Rodos TMG
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qm_RoVgJjc

Why isn't Brand New Star in these vids? because it's only good to use as a Hero Counter PA to help build HT gauge w/dmg+free invinc-frames and (some mob control) not purely on bosses, hintity hint hint


About Hero:

Spoiler!

This class has the unique ability to fluidly switch between three weapon types in the heat of battle.

Heroes use Swords, Twin Machine Guns, Talis's And Gunslashes. Thanks to their unique Photon Arts and Weapon Actions, they’ll play a bit differently than the versions used by other classes. Fighting with just one of these weapon types is sufficient enough, but it’s even more efficient to switch between all three.

Heroes encompass a playstyle allowing you to change the action of your PA depending on how long you hold the button. In some cases you’ll actually switch weapons from Sword to Talis, to Twin Machine Guns, and vice versa.

Hero Weapon/Shift action effects are located in the PA section of this post.

Hero will be using CURRENTLY existing weapons for it's arsenal. So if you already have geared out Sword, TMG and a Talis then you'll be good to go.

-Hero Class Unlocking:

Spoiler!

Update 1/23:

So during the last Xmas stream 2018 I forgot to update this portion but you will no longer need 3x Lv75 classes of a specific type to unlock Hero as they're relaxing these conditions with the release of Phantom. You will only need to have 2x Lv75 classes but whether they're allowed to be of the same attack type (like S-atk) I'm not sure yet as I have yet to see any info on this BUT I am leaving the current method (which can also be found on bumped) up for people who may be looking here on how to currently unlock the class.


Hero is Main Class only. You can not set a subclass.

Make sure you walk toward the quest gate to have Kofi Prompt you about the class. If you are missing titles but have one of each at Lv75, you will need to be on that character that has the class at Lv75 to have the title come up for you, so some character swapping may be needed.

You need to earn 3 Titles for the following:

1 Striking Class at Level 75
Valid Striking: Hu / Fi / Bo

1 Ranged Class at Level 75
Valid Ranged: Ra / Gu / Br

1 Tech Class at Level 75
Valid Tech: Fo / Te / Su

-Head to Koffie and clear the CO with the earned Titles.
-Heroes will have several level cap unlocking Orders to deal with.
-Hero can run Quests despite the requirement for a Main/Sub class of 75/75 or 80/80.

Example: Deus Gracia Requires 80/80, HR Lv80 will allow you to run this freely.

-Hero Level Cap Unlocking

Spoiler!

- Lv25 (unlock Lv40)
Clear training quest

- Lv35 (unlock Lv55)
Clear any Free Field / Arks quest

- Lv50 (unlock Lv70)
Kill 50 enemies with each weapon (50 sword, 50 Tmg, 50 Talis), (VHAQ quickly finishes this.)

- Lv65 (unlock Lv75)
Kill Zeshshrayda with Sword, Blu Ringahda with TMG, Zigmolde with Talis.

- Lv75 (unlock Lv80)

2 conditions required for unlocking lvl 80 (both are titles), CO is from Koffee

1. Must have ONE +35 13* from the HR weapon category
2. Must have completed Stratos' Skill Point CO's (21 HR Class Cubes)

-Mag Build/Skill for Hero

Spoiler!

Hero has a Mag Skill so that you don’t have to create a new mag. It takes the mag’s Total ATK (from S-ATK+R-ATK+T-ATK) and applies it to S-ATK, R-ATK, and T-ATK. Dex and Defense stats are not covered by this skill. This skill is automatically filled in so no worries on SP waste.

How it is applied:

S Atk 200 --> 200
R Atk 0 --> 200
T Atk 0 --> 200

-Hero Skill Tree & Unit Build Recommendations:

Spoiler!

Sega recommends using a well-rounded affix build for Hero (S/R/T atk on each unit) but if you prefer to only use certain weapons on the class then going all S atk is always welcomed if you liked to. (even though the class is setup to use ALL weapons for maximum effective gameplay).

I recommend a well balanced atk/hp/pp build as current content hits kinda hard and depending on your playstyle going all atk/pp may not be for you if you're consistently hitting the floor and with Hero Boost being fickle as it is, losing that precious dmg bonus and having to reset it is kinda a pain although Demonia series help relieve it as HB batteries and with current gear out, you may have to switch up your play strategy...or just get good, not even joking here.

Since you can't really mess up Heros Tree, heres an example of a simple build. Obviously allocate SP where you like if aren't content with the tree:

http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skill...qnGAdAqB00000f

Frequently Asked Questions/Answers:

Spoiler!

Deus Gracia (and other Rematches) Require 80/80, HR Lv80 will allow you to run this freely.
What is HR's top weapons?
A: Currently Sword>Talis>TMG
-Heroes can’t use native PAs embedded on weapons. For example, embedded Over End is a no go.

Information is taken from Bumped/Swiki and condensed (sorta) down into one post. I want to thank everyone who contributed from both those sites and anywhere else the info came from.

[final_attack]

If focusing on Ranged is viable ........ it seems I'll go with this new class
That Dual Gun ........... rip my Resta Talis (used on Gu when needed) if this class can cast tech.

[morkie]

no PA information this time, maybe its on next station...or datamined...

[Akero]

That voice for the female hero, is that Megumin? O:

[AirinMikune]

Finally...that day when I can laugh back on people who think making a unit with all attack on it is a joke TwT

Also, I hope the requirement is:

Having all classes at level 80.
Defeated Phaleg in all class
Solo PD with all class
Conquered all XQ solo floors.
1,000 titles unlocked
Legend Rank at PVP
100m registration fee.

Can't be a hero without conquering those.

[final_attack]

Also, I hope the requirement is:

Having all classes at level 80.
Defeated Phaleg in all class
Solo PD with all class
Conquered all XQ solo floors.
Legend Rank at PVP
100m registration fee.

Can't be a hero without conquering those.

hopefully nope. As long as it can be used at Lv1, I'm in.
Too much time to consume (not enough irl) ..... my main only have Gu and Hu at Lv80 (Lv75 Ra, Lv40 something, others, under 20

[AirinMikune]

Not the other ones but it could that it requires at least a couple of classes maxed up.

i was thinking like...to be able to use the twin guns, you have to have level 80 Gu, for the Katana, a Level 80 Br and so on.

It must have a skill slot of some sort where the skills you gain depends on which other class level you have.

[Asellus]

Frankenclass, yes! Totally called it. Pretty happy about the direction of episode 5 too.

Finally...that day when I can laugh back on people who think making a unit with all attack on it is a joke TwT.

Hybrid offense when it's done well. I've had several hybrid offense sets and they only get better with each episode. And if hybrid is the focus of episode 5 I'm fucking golden.

[FantasyHeaven]

no one's gonna play gu tmgs anymore since it's boring trash and unfun to play lmao

[Hysteria1987]

Looks cool, gotta say I like it.

I'd always thought I'd rather they stay sci-fi, but the fantasy stuff really looks like it fits a lot of the aesthetic the game's gone through.