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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilet View Post
    BNS takes too long to mob with on mobs with high hp, and hitting everything in sight with it on heads is impractical.
    That one spinny side ways shooting PA is just so bad for anything. Just give it super armor already sega.
    Brand New Star actually does pretty respectable damage if you use it during Counter frames, so it has some very specific times where it's great. Even in the Buster EQ, there are lots of enemies that use ranged attacks while approaching, and the first Attack phase where the Devil Castle pulls back and attacks, but is outside of your range, stuff like that.

    Final Storm actually has a hitbox that's well below your character, so you can use it from above enemies and generally be safe from attack, while generally also ensuring headshots with it, but it has the same problem Brand New Star does, without the ability to increase its damage for a moment. Second Edge is pretty good, at least, but otherwise, yeah, your gucs aren't going to be putting in any work on anything significant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kril View Post
    i never said it wasnt doable (let alone getting faster times than the other weps) but you know fully well he wouldnt solo it without timing out or referencing a video that isnt him.
    This is so true it hurts.

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    ITT: People who dont know how to use a weapon properly blame it on the weapon instead of themselves for being bad
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geistritter View Post
    Brand New Star actually does pretty respectable damage if you use it during Counter frames, so it has some very specific times where it's great. Even in the Buster EQ, there are lots of enemies that use ranged attacks while approaching, and the first Attack phase where the Devil Castle pulls back and attacks, but is outside of your range, stuff like that.

    Final Storm actually has a hitbox that's well below your character, so you can use it from above enemies and generally be safe from attack, while generally also ensuring headshots with it, but it has the same problem Brand New Star does, without the ability to increase its damage for a moment..
    BNS counter is nice, but sadly normal counter has better dps. And i agree, with the castle core counters. That's a pretty good spot for it, and one of the few. The real problem with Final Storm is that you aren't getting all the hits in on a target


    Quote Originally Posted by Moffen View Post
    ITT: People who dont know how to use a weapon properly blame it on the weapon instead of themselves for being bad
    Yeah, try to say that again when you actually get TMG to beat Sword in anything or even Talis. Like say, over 103k dps on mother with TMG only in a four man run, or even getting over 50k on BQ with TMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilet View Post
    Yeah, try to say that again when you actually get TMG to beat Sword in anything or even Talis. Like say, over 103k dps on mother with TMG only in a four man run, or even getting over 50k on BQ with TMG
    think they were referring to the ppl who are upset their TMGs arent top tier rivaling sword cuz overall they lack skill in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moffen View Post
    ITT: People who dont know how to use a weapon properly blame it on the weapon instead of themselves for being bad
    As someone who thinks the entire argument about the different hero weapons is pointless, TMGs do in fact have the lowest DPS potential out of the 3 weapons.

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    Im mad about sword being good cause it means yet another class to send the price of s-atk affixes up,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raujinn View Post
    Im mad about sword being good cause it means yet another class to send the price of s-atk affixes up,
    Now that's something I can agree with.

    But hey, Hero Talis being pretty good-yet-underappreciated at least means the savvy can make use of those inexpensive Noble/Elegant Techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raujinn View Post
    Im mad about sword being good cause it means yet another class to send the price of s-atk affixes up,
    im still salty over alter arma shooting up to wtf prices on ship 2



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    TMG potential is lowest, but skill floor is lowest too. If someone's turned their brain off I'd rather they park in a corner and hold left click with TMG
    Last edited by Selphea; Oct 27, 2017 at 07:42 PM.

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    Unfortunately, that's what a lot of people prefer to do.

    That and hold down Rising Edge and delight at slowly dealing hits of 20-30,000 to a single target. Why play the game when you can just hold down a button!

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