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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulastar View Post
    SEGA's long term plan to suck more players money by forced SG trading keep woking. SG playes can get trough ingame ways just to insignificant while there's more and more services they put on it. And 500AC for 120SG is just robbing off.
    What? The new system is literally an improvement in every way.

    It's 500 ac right now for an AC Este pass. It's 500 ac at the worst possible conversion rate for 100 SG. The real money cost is the same, the only thing that's changed is now you have an extra option that doesn't require money.

    And since when is in-game SG not enough? Constant barrage of new titles and campaigns, or you can just buy costumes. Buy 10 costumes, throw them on alts, recycle or resell when done, probably cost you about a million meseta for 100 SG, roughly the same as a color change pass.

    All that, assuming you even need the passes, they're pretty generous with the free ones.

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    I didnt watch the stream, but I am hoping they dont remove the login bonus ones. They are good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulastar View Post
    SEGA's long term plan to suck more players money by forced SG trading keep woking. SG playes can get trough ingame ways just to insignificant while there's more and more services they put on it. And 500AC for 120SG is just robbing off.
    oh so it'll be cheaper now, since the AC makeover pass is 500AC already, 100SG means you still have 20SG afterward; assuming somebody was using AC to get makeover passes already

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    Quote Originally Posted by echofaith View Post
    I didnt watch the stream, but I am hoping they dont remove the login bonus ones. They are good stuff.
    yeah that's the only thing im worried about here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceresa View Post
    What? The new system is literally an improvement in every way.

    It's 500 ac right now for an AC Este pass. It's 500 ac at the worst possible conversion rate for 100 SG. The real money cost is the same, the only thing that's changed is now you have an extra option that doesn't require money.

    And since when is in-game SG not enough? Constant barrage of new titles and campaigns, or you can just buy costumes. Buy 10 costumes, throw them on alts, recycle or resell when done, probably cost you about a million meseta for 100 SG, roughly the same as a color change pass.

    All that, assuming you even need the passes, they're pretty generous with the free ones.
    Improvements you say...
    Well I get 31 sg/day with 3 charas + weekly casino 10 SG and some with Buster Medals. It's barely enough for my triboost suppling. But casul player with one character can afford about 100SG/week and be happy about it.

    And we have this fucking scratch which keep giving me only shit I don't need, can't use or already have. And I need 7 more items from it. Thanks god there's no CF, that need to be rushed, I don't rush lvlup pets or some other SG spendings 'cause they are just too expencive to buy them with AC.

    BTW I have 60+ free salon passes and don't use them often. But if they suddenly become useless, it will be completely disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulastar View Post
    Improvements you say...
    Well I get 31 sg/day with 3 charas
    what? gain sg per day how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oratank View Post
    what? gain sg per day how?
    wear 3 SG having outfits everyday and 1 for logging into PSO2es.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorak000 View Post
    oh so it'll be cheaper now, since the AC makeover pass is 500AC already, 100SG means you still have 20SG afterward; assuming somebody was using AC to get makeover passes already
    You guys really don't get it. I mean overall SG usage increase while incoming stay same. And you forced to buy more with AC if you need it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorak000 View Post
    EDIT: yeah that's the only thing im worried about here
    Everybody worried about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by oratank View Post
    what? gain sg per day how?
    You showed who you are with just that single question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulastar View Post
    You guys really don't get it. I mean overall SG usage increase while incoming stay same. And you forced to buy more with AC if you need it.
    Jee, no need to get all prickly, you should re-read what was said above about how it's likely to work
    -Pass system will remain exactly the same. What that means is that before even dealing with what the change implies, you'll have to burn through the entirety of your passes first

    -As Ceresa mentioned, if you DON'T have a pass, you'll have to pay 100SG for making your change instead of 500AC. However you can pay 500AC for 120SG, so if worst case scenario you have to pay AC to get your SG, it still amounts to less of an expense than it was before. And if you don't want to pay AC for the change, you're not forced to do so anymore. You can just patiently work with your SG income to eventually make the changes.

    I really fail to see how this is not an improvement regarding makeover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulastar View Post
    You guys really don't get it. I mean overall SG usage increase while incoming stay same. And you forced to buy more with AC if you need it.
    If you don't want to buy passes you can just wait for free ones like before. The SG change ONLY affects full passes, which, if you weren't willing to buy AC to get anyway, means nothing changes for you, except that you have the option of using SGs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kondibon View Post
    If you don't want to buy passes you can just wait for free ones like before. The SG change ONLY affects full passes, which, if you weren't willing to buy AC to get anyway, means nothing changes for you, except that you have the option of using SGs.
    I didn't watch the stream so this might have been talked about, but that's assuming they continue to give free passes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they did once or twice, but I can't help but think they'll be phased out at some point after hearing this.
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