Underground Nightmare: New Raid 7/25 - your thoughts/impressions

[Anduril]

People dislike the Dark Blast part a lot, huh.

I think it just has to do with the fact that it feels kinda inconsequential. It makes a really good visual set piece, but there are no real stakes at that point in the fight since you still have 45+ minutes on the timer and there is no real penalty except for a 5 second time-out if you get hit too many times. In this last one, I let myself get immediately hit by the big spinning laser thing she does and I respawned exactly as it was ending, and for it being a powerful special attack, being able to do that makes it lackluster.

[Jene-chan]

People dislike the Dark Blast part a lot, huh.

I really don't like Dark Blast in general but Loser Dark Blast in particular is pretty lame to me. Having an entire segment dedicated to it where you essentially can't lose isn't exactly gripping to me.

[Kondibon]

The interview shedding light on this originally having been planed as a final to TD makes the loser part make more sense. It was probably originally going to be AIS.

I don't really hate the Dark Blast phase, but I wish the parts surrounding it were longer. Like Anduril said, it feels inconsequential. I like the escort phase, and I don't mind that it's easy to keep the tank alive, but I wish it was longer and got more intense in terms of mob spawns. The ground phase of the boss is also too short. Even the dragon is more mechanically interesting.

EDIT: oh right, the escort music is great, but I don't like that the boss theme is just appregina's theme with some extra vocals. Vocals that sound weird I might add. I'm not sure if it's the singer or what but it sounds really stilted compared to the other lyrics they've used in that invented language.

[ArcaneTechs]

People dislike the Dark Blast part a lot, huh.

Luther DB is honestly boring, I still like using Elder DB way more than Luther since its basically higher DPS and feels a lot more satisfying to play where Luther is just charge beam shoot over and over spam barta etc

I don't really hate the Dark Blast phase, but I wish the parts surrounding it were longer. Like Anduril said, it feels inconsequential. I like the escort phase, and I don't mind that it's easy to keep the tank alive, but I wish it was longer and got more intense in terms of mob spawns. The ground phase of the boss is also too short. Even the dragon is more mechanically interesting.

I think mob spawn location could use work, when they spawn on both sides seems to be the only time its a real threat since realistically the threat should be all around you not just in front only or sometimes on the sides. The run needs more Flame Dialmos though since people still struggle with it lol

[silo1991]

i just remember something , sega did something unlogical and out of tendency , why release a raid of aprentice without the DB form .

talking about it , i hope aprentice DB does not requiere dodging stuff like DB loser did , because seriusly that requierement its bugged , even if i dodge suceffully 5 attacks and none of them counted ( 1 of many expiriences also i have it max out with my 3 chars)

[Kondibon]

i just remember something , sega did something unlogical and out of tendency , why release a raid of aprentice without the DB form .

I brought this up when the first full trailer was shown without showing App DB. I'm not sure why its dropping a month after the EQ when it seems to basically be done at this point.

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I really don't like Dark Blast in general but Loser Dark Blast in particular is pretty lame to me. Having an entire segment dedicated to it where you essentially can't lose isn't exactly gripping to me.

I don't like being FORCED to use dark blast for anything.

[Kondibon]

Do people really hate DB that much?

Actually I'm more curious WHY people hate DB so much, it's just AIS again.

[Jene-chan]

Do people really hate DB that much?

Actually I'm more curious WHY people hate DB so much, it's just AIS again.

Honestly, Hunar DB is is more or less fine to me but I hate being forced to use it. Vader boost was annoying for a multitude of reasons, but one of the key ones is that their focus was nerf player damage but boost DB gain so that it we were forced to DB during it. It's the same problem with AIS, though AIS is limited in the sense that it's usage is specific to some maps.

Loser DB in most cases is just lack luster. It's intended to be good for movement/mobbing but in a lot of cases, Hunar DB can do it passably OR you can stay untransformed and have just as good if not better mobbing.

In almost all cases, I'd rather just play my actual character/class.

[Kondibon]

In almost all cases, I'd rather just play my actual character/class.

You can do that in almost all of the content, a couple of quests being built around it isn't that bad.