Perpetual Madness Presentation and Discussion thread

[the_importer_]

Neither EBQ nor EBQ2 drop any Crests. And I honestly doubt Buster medals will be required too. Whatever is needed will come with the True Dark Falz EQ.

I'm talking about the weekly King’s Crest Campaign. This week, doing this quest 3 times will get you 20 Crests.

[XrosBlader821]

I'm talking about the weekly King’s Crest Campaign. This week, doing this quest 3 times will get you 20 Crests.

oh forgot about those

[Gaylar]

It gives you 777HP

what the fuck
this is a meme unit right?
why am i seriously considering what that thing would be like pumped full of attack/pp affixes
that 0 def/resist is a major detriment.. right?

[XrosBlader821]

I dunno if 1 DEF = 1 HP but it's probably less of a trade off with Deband Toughness boosting these 777 HP into 971 HP.
Do DEF stats work the same as Weapon ATK stats as in they're ignored when using Shifta/Deband?

[final_attack]

what the fuck
this is a meme unit right?
why am i seriously considering what that thing would be like pumped full of attack/pp affixes
that 0 def/resist is a major detriment.. right?

Well, if it's 777 HP ...... normally, people have around / close to 1700 Def unbuffed and around 300 Def from each piece of unit, right?

It will make you tankier, imo .... and kinda depends on your current HP (more useful for people with less HP)
And, if you combine this unit with 2 Izane / Phobos ....... o____o

Also, do remember if you're using S4 life steal from AtraGunslash .... more HP = more hits to recover.
So, depends on classes / weapon equipped too, I guess.

[Sonickyle27]

I'm fairly sure the amount of HP the Guts drink gives you is also based on your maximum HP which includes units, so you could easily go past 2k HP, perhaps even 3k?

[Reilet]

5 DEF = 1 flat damage reduction

For a fair comparison i’ll look at the other defensive unit Izane

The comparison is 777 hp vs ~350 defense, 150 hp, 4% DR

You can look at defense in two ways
1. Flat damage reduction (350 defense would be 70 damage reduced)
2. A variable DR based on enemy attack. (Almost all XH mobs sit at 4000 ~ 6000 atk, so this would make 350 defense roughly 5% ~ 8% DR)

Looking at it in the first one. Say you take 300 dmg and have 1200 hp (we’ll use the 300 as izane after the defense has been applied)
• with izane you take 288 dmg. At 1350 hp you can take 4 hits before you die. (1350/288 = 4.68 )
• with rappy you take 370 dmg. At 1977 hp you can take 5 hits before you die. (1977/370 = 5.34)

Say you take 600 instead and have 1800 hp
• izane: 576 dmg @ 1950 hp = 3.38 hits
• rappy: 670 dmg @ 2577 hp = 3.84 hits

That’s not all.

If we add any DR from other sources, say like deband cut 15%
• izane: 490 dmg @ 1950 hp = 3.97 hits
• rappy: 570 dmg @ 2577 hp = 4.52 hits

• izane: 245 dmg @ 1350 hp = 5.51 hits
• rappy: 296 dmg @ 1977 hp = 6.67 hits

The difference increases as you have more DR, and hp buffs are based in max hp so rappy gets more out of that too. The raw defense boost from deband only applies to your base so that’s the same for both.

Of course, if you want to compare it to more offensive units, then you have to take into consideration atk and pp and how much of a value they are for you.

[AVO]

This eq drops the new medals and all the materials exactly how bq should have been in the first place.

[Moffen]

On the off chance Xierra is retarded and makes you skip a phase into another buster phase, please let 1 (one,only one) pile die so you can get your phase back.
If you're in a strong organised run you can bleed phases out for longer and get way more exp by keeping the pile amount minimal.

[milranduil]

On the off chance Xierra is retarded and makes you skip a phase into another buster phase, please let 1 (one,only one) pile die so you can get your phase back.
If you're in a strong organised run you can bleed phases out for longer and get way more exp by keeping the pile amount minimal.

the only reason to do this is exp, no other reason. no falz bosses, no good loot. pug will never do this.