Phantom Class Discussion

[ArcaneTechs]

I'm using a Rifle and always have Blue mark while use PAs, but slow normals make mark building tougher. Otherwise Rod's or Katana's normals build mark pretty quickly for me.

do you not use Strafe or Shift Action Verbrechen? aka literal DoT's for Rifle to help build Det charges? along with any Kugel/SA Kugel use in combination with Strafe/SA Verbrechen? These are there for a reason man, do something with them

[SteveCZ]

This is getting weirder than I thought. From someone talking about gear accumulation but without Ambivalence to someone talking about this class means less techs can be casted. Now I remember why I decided to only reply on fashion stuff in this forum before.

[mother clusterfck]

So basically you don't know how to play the class, gotcha.

Even with 5% trigger rate, Jellen & Chase Mark Boost can speed up your Gear gain by a decent chunk and multi-hit attacks can trigger Jellen very easily. Not to mention MPA's are currently full with Phantoms so Jellen is almost always active.

You don't build up markers only using Attacks. You need to Counter enemy attacks for it to build up. Phantom Attacks have good I frames but Dodging attacks should, just like with Hero, be your top priority, regardless of weapon.

You can do the math yourself but in the vast majority of instances Tech Short Charge is a DPS boost and the PP consumption rate is reduced, not increased. in fact the spammy nature of some techs makes them perfect for Jellen infliction.

Thanks for the clarification and of course I dunno how to play the class, hence asking so many beginner questions :P

what.

In another thread someone said the pp cost was raised and since I don't know much about ph yet I had no reason to doubt it.

[milranduil]

Thanks for the clarification and of course I dunno how to play the class, hence asking so many beginner questions :P


In another thread someone said the pp cost was raised and since I don't know much about ph yet I had no reason to doubt it.

simple, open the skill sim. it explains what the skill does

[ArcaneTechs]

simple, open the skill sim. it explains what the skill does

such an elitist response :3

[megaphone]

do you not use Strafe or Shift Action Verbrechen? aka literal DoT's for Rifle to help build Det charges? along with any Kugel/SA Kugel use in combination with Strafe/SA Verbrechen? These are there for a reason man, do something with them

You really don't want to use either strafe or shifted verbrechen. Strafe has great DPS on paper with more than one target, but you'll never reliably combo it in 32 frames, and shifted verbrechen has terrible DPS even as a DoT. It's barely better than normal attacks, both nachtengriff variants have upwards of 30% more DPS.

[SteveCZ]

You really don't want to use either strafe or shifted verbrechen. Strafe has great DPS on paper with more than one target, but you'll never reliably combo it in 32 frames, and shifted verbrechen has terrible DPS even as a DoT. It's barely better than normal attacks, both nachtengriff variants have upwards of 30% more DPS.

I think the context was marker accumulation with rifle, especially for single target.

[ArcaneTechs]

I think the context was marker accumulation with rifle, especially for single target.

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You really don't want to use either strafe or shifted verbrechen. Strafe has great DPS on paper with more than one target, but you'll never reliably combo it in 32 frames, and shifted verbrechen has terrible DPS even as a DoT. It's barely better than normal attacks, both nachtengriff variants have upwards of 30% more DPS.

im well aware those 2 PA's i mention don't have good enough DPS, I want a buff for those but how soon theyll happen iunno

[megaphone]

I know what the context was, I'm just pointing out that whether they build marks quickly or not is irrelevant since they're not worth using

[kiakan]

How good is dex mag on a Phantom vs a pure S atk mag? I use a mix of katana and rifle, so wouldn't the dex mag benefit me more?