Phantom Class Discussion

[Stormwalker]

So, I've been working on trying to S-Rank Destroyers of Light for expert match purposes, and I'm already posting better times with katana PH than I do with FI, but better is not good enough (stuck at about 22:30). My primary problem appears to be PP starvation... the good DPS combos I've been able to work out for phantom katana are too PP-hungry, especially combined with using PA's (shifted schmetterling) to move quickly across the stages.

What are the best PP-sustainable katana combos for DPS against stationary targets? Looking at the wiki I have tried shifted rose->QC, but the altitude gain takes me off target. Similarly, shifted schmetterling -> QC seems like OK sustainable DPS on paper but isn't really practical?

Folter Zeit seems to do strong DPS, but without QC, the PP consumption is atrocious. Even with 237 PP and a photon drink I run out too fast.

I don't have this problem on Persona, probably because I don't burn PP trying to race across the arena.

Is it worth doing PA -> weapon action -> normal -> PA for PP recovery without getting the shifted PA? The PP recovery on the weapon action is better than on the normals.

I'd use rod, but I have a 15* katana and only a 14* rod.

[milranduil]

So, I've been working on trying to S-Rank Destroyers of Light for expert match purposes, and I'm already posting better times with katana PH than I do with FI, but better is not good enough (stuck at about 22:30). My primary problem appears to be PP starvation... the good DPS combos I've been able to work out for phantom katana are too PP-hungry, especially combined with using PA's (shifted schmetterling) to move quickly across the stages.

What are the best PP-sustainable katana combos for DPS against stationary targets? Looking at the wiki I have tried shifted rose->QC, but the altitude gain takes me off target. Similarly, shifted schmetterling -> QC seems like OK sustainable DPS on paper but isn't really practical?

Folter Zeit seems to do strong DPS, but without QC, the PP consumption is atrocious. Even with 237 PP and a photon drink I run out too fast.

I don't have this problem on Persona, probably because I don't burn PP trying to race across the arena.

Is it worth doing PA -> weapon action -> normal -> PA for PP recovery without getting the shifted PA? The PP recovery on the weapon action is better than on the normals.

I'd use rod, but I have a 15* katana and only a 14* rod.

here's a 9min katana vid from one of my friends, make sure to be using weak drink, not photon drink.

Spoiler!

[Stormwalker]

here's a 9min katana vid from one of my friends, make sure to be using weak drink, not photon drink.

Spoiler!

Thank you, that's extremely helpful.

Also, I've come to the conclusion (after doing some mental math I should have done before affixing it in the first place) that I chose the wrong SSA's on my Atra EX katana. What would you recommend, especially for the S4?

Is there any S4 that works well for Phantom other than Lifesteal? Lifesteal seems almost wasted when Phantom can self-heal so quickly and safely.

I have Augment Intent (it's 8s, so 4%) for my S1 but I think I chose my S2 and S3 badly. I went with crit rate up, but PH doesn't have enough crit power to make that worthwhile.

[GHNeko]

Parti S4, Radiant Response?

Great S4 in general now a days for anything phantom related.

[Stormwalker]

Parti S4, Radiant Response?

Great S4 in general now a days for anything phantom related.

Oh, wow, how did I miss that one? Given the need for high max PP values to fuel Photon Stream and Critical Stream, and Katana's PP-hungry nature, that's perfect. And it won't be terrible if I use the same katana for BR.

Thanks!

[ArcaneTechs]

Oh, wow, how did I miss that one? Given the need for high max PP values to fuel Photon Stream and Critical Stream, and Katana's PP-hungry nature, that's perfect. And it won't be terrible if I use the same katana for BR.

Thanks!

you kind of want the Gauge Reduction on Atra Kats S4 but ehh w/e works for ya

[Stormwalker]

you kind of want the Gauge Reduction on Atra Kats S4 but ehh w/e works for ya

I'll be using it more for PH than BR, regardless, and the Atra katana S4 is useless to PH.. If I get another 15* katana for PH, then I might reaffix it for BR at that time.

[Zulastar]

Stormwalker If you're PP-hungry you can try my setup which was hyped about when it was on my Hero's sword.
Now I made a new one with Augment-Double-Edged-Vital and my old turned into this:



It must drop in price pretty much after UH implementation.

I made a little discovery about 15* weapons recently:
Well I always thought about the difference between Lightstream and Atra Ex is only in ATK, SAF and POT but now I compared them in Phantoms Rifle and found the major difference: normals, PAs and especially WA executed much faster on Lightstream!
It's harder to see it in other's classes weapons, but Phantoms Rifle made it all clear.

[ArcaneTechs]

I'll be using it more for PH than BR, regardless, and the Atra katana S4 is useless to PH.. If I get another 15* katana for PH, then I might reaffix it for BR at that time.

i was referring to when you decide to play BR not keeping that actual S4 on while playing Ph

Stormwalker If you're PP-hungry you can try my setup which was hyped about when it was on my Hero's sword.

nobody was hyped about it, people were wondering what youre even doing playing Hero like the way you do constantly resetting Hero Boost for the sake of getting PP back when you get hit. As for the rest of your post, its a real head scratcher

[Zulastar]

constantly resetting Hero Boost for the sake of getting PP back when you get hit. As for the rest of your post, its a real head scratcher

I'm already said it's not like that, it's fine with only Lethal refilling my PP along with accidental damage. When I got hit for real Hero Boost got lost anyways.

And about weapons I just switched back and forth between them in combat and found this speed difference is about 15-20% for normals.